That’s crazy all the 1792 full proof never come off hot just sweet. I got a store pick from North cali and it’s the best full proof 1792 tons of watermelon and pear notes it’s delicious
I think I've commented this before, but I'm done with allocations. Especially Buffalo Trace. And especially Blanton's. This year I'm only buying store picks and local distilleries (I live in GA). The only exception will be the raffles or offers from my local store. And even then, I'll opt for something I've never had before and absolutely won't overpay.
I’m with you on most of your picks. However, I can’t agree on the Bakers 13 and the Bookers. I always have a steady supply of Bookers. To me it’s a great whiskey at a reasonable price. definitely agree on high west and Whistlepig. There’s so many other good ryes out there rather than whistle pig that I see no reason to pay the price. I used to be a huge fan of high west especially the midwinter night dram but now other places are doing the same thing with more character and at a lower price
I cannot imagine paying $270 for a bottle of booze, or $170, or for that matter $70. This is crazy time folks. I am happy with the bourbon I buy for $25-$60!
Some brands/bottles I’m done with are: Old Elk, I have had at least 5 different bottles and it’s just doesn’t live up to the price I paid. Craft bourbons in general. Pot still bourbons as well. Cheers
It takes a lot of confidence to make a review like this but I applaud your candor. I for one appreciate reviews like this to help enthusiasts like me with an education perspective. It’s a valuable opinion in a world where every review is a plus plus. Thank you gentlemen.
I’m drinking a 1792 full proof barrel pick right now. 55 bucks.. 1792 in the past hasn’t had favorable reviews but this years batch has been very very good in my opinion
Agreed, first pour of a store pick was fantastic. I was a little surprised by the duo’s comments on flavor profile since the full proof had a complexity with the heat mentioned. The heat’s there at 125 proof but it’s worth the price of admission. (Got mine for $49.99) Cheers!
I still found the store pick that I bought to be very hot and not in a good way. I had to finish my 1792 full proof with doctor pepper it was so hot. 🤷♂️
Great list, and also great to see you passing on picks that everyone used to "rave" about. Flavour of the month we have learned to avoid...always come back to those legacy brands (some quite cheap!) you can't beat.
I'm basically in agreement with all of these. Cal 16 is a great bourbon though. Not only is it really freaking good, but there is nowhere else where I'm going to be able to just walk into a store and buy a 16 year age stated product for MSRP. And at $10/year, the price holds up. Great whiskey, great availability, not a price gouge, it's a win-win-win.
I have only tried 4 Bookers Mighty fine Storyteller Kentucky Tea and one other, I have loved every one and plan to buy each release because I find them to be a TREMENDOUS Value. but thank you for discouraging others more for me
MSRP speaking, anything above $80 falls within the rule of diminishing returns for me. There are so many great bottles out there that won’t let you break the bank and still won’t let you miss anything that is “too good”. Nice review!
Man I don't know on some of those. I absolutely loved Calumet 15 and 16 and would gladly buy and bunker more. 1792 FP is also fire. Totally agree though on High West, for me it's been overtaken by Sagamore in the world of everyday rye Loved watching though and totally respect your pallets
The Willett 8 has very similar taste to last year's Old Fitzgerald 8 BIB, so if you like that flavor profile, it may actually be a deal. Retail for Retail, the Old Fitz is the better deal. Good luck finding one at retail, though. The Willett can be had for 235-250 and is much more common to find.
I am totally with you on the Calumet 16 Year. It just doesn't hold a candle to the Calumet 15 and my brain struggles with why? I have blinded both with multiple people and the 15 always rises to the top and the 16 is the caboose. I also have found multiple bottles of Calumet 15 at $110. Try doing that with the 16!
I got multiple bottles of the 15 @ $95, and the 16 @ $115, Costco. Love the 16! It just took some time to open up, but once it did it was wayyy better than the 15. Unless you're just looking for that cherry sweetness thenstick with the 15. 16 more complex and more dark, rich oak.
No more Angle's Envy bourbon or rye (have not tried their cask strength). 1792 FP is good, but a good store pick 1792 BiB or SB are more enjoyable for me. And I do enjoy a really good BP, like Elijah Craig and Larceny.
What's up Gents? I'm new to your channel and to Bourbon "Selecting" this is some good info for a new guy! Thanks for the content, look forward to more.
Spot on with all these - way too much mid whiskey out there, especially for some of the price tags. Add Penelope, Angel’s Envy, Jefferson’s, Town Branch, Heaven’s Door, pretty much anything out of Texas (some of the Still Austin stuff is ok, but far from great), Pinhook, Blood Oath, - there are just so many!
I purchased a 1792 regular strength and I hated it! It tasted like medicine. My wife wouldn't let me pour it out so I mixed it with a OGD 114. It ended up pretty good!
Thanks for your channel. While I have not tried that many whiskeys (perhaps 50), there are only three I will not buy, or try, agaimn. Those are Frey Ranch Bourbon 4 Grain. I do not like flavor profile. Balcones Baby Blue Corn Whiskey and Balcones Lineage Single Malt. Again these do not fit my flavor profile. So far, I have not had any whiskey costing more than $130 and those over $100 I would buy again. Cheers!
Dang! I though I would agree with more... but it seems you both don't like aged dark, rich oak in your bourbon 😂 NO Baker's 13, No Calumet 16, No Gatsby. Now I will say these are cheaper than what you paid (Baker's 13 $130, Calumet 16 $115 @ Costco, Gatsby $220) and I did not buy the Gatsby. Also Calumet took some time to open up for me, but once it did WOW! one of my favorites. And knockin 1792 FP??? It's $45-$50! I do agree with everything else, especially the Booker's and Mid Winter Nights Dram. The Woodford BP is $109 at Costco so not out 100% yet on that one. Definitley not your best list guys (for me) 😂😂😂
I always get cardboard like notes in this brand. I have even tasted it at the distillery in Texas. Suspect it is an oxidation note due to the higher temperature aging but not a fav.
I stopped buying finished bourbons about two years ago. It was a good choice that I don't regret. I stopped buying any bourbons about 3 months ago. It was also a good choice. Now I just take the time I was hunting to invite friends and neighbors over for a pour or two. I'll buy again but bourbon is full on beanie babies for adults and there isn't a single one I have missed buying in the last few months that I think about. My wallet is thanking me as well.
The hype and cost of some of the corn juice is just not worth it! Jim Beam, Jack Daniels, Old Forester, Bulleit and Buffalo Trace make good consistent products at a fair price for their product lines! I have some higher priced great bottles and some smaller distiller amazing finds but pricing IS out of control!
I’ve tried the last two Boss Hogs and I think the WP 12yr is the best by far:) my Calumet 16 is just not that good, my Sam Houston 14 is really nice! My 1792 full proof is sweet and not hot at all, I haven’t had a High West that I’ve liked yet. Never had the Gatsby?
I agree, the calumet 16 just doesn’t do it for me. I’d buy a RRSB, KC12 and a host of other bourbons before I’d buy other calumet 16 - and save a ton of cash.
I’ve been complaining about 1792 Full Proof not delivering enough flavor for the proof for years. I was sad to have a friend ask me if he should pick up a bottle of MWND and having to tell him that it was just too expensive for what it is. And that is true pretty much across the lineup. I hear the latest Bourye is really good, but it’s distillery only, so I wouldn’t know. Maybe you need to live in Utah for it to be good…
I watch all of your vids (nice work btw) and have never agreed more with you guys than with this one. I literally might have picked the exact same bottles for this list. Half of these are just so gahtdamn’d overpriced for the juice that’s now in the bottle that it is so easy to pass on them.
1792 FP at half the cost of old forester FP and way more findable. That said, my 1792 also drinks hot…never been able to find the old forester, but when bringing price / availability in it doesn’t seem like the best comp
Great bottle picks for bourbon to pass on. I would never buy any whiskey because the bottle looks cool. At the end of the day, the bottle gets tossed in the garbage. It's just marketing for more money. Great review.
With this FOMO teasing our wallets to the brink. I love the anti-hype videos like this. Please more bang for the buck. Line up things in some blinds SLB does it lots. Shoutout curiosity public. They blinded many tequilas and had many surprises. Especially when it takes the wind out of the hype brands. It's needed when publicity in any shape gets a hold of your wallet, then come regret and disappointed when it doesn't line up with what someone said. I'm a beginner. Kind of. But when an $80 bottle of something is a let down compared to a $50. You scratch your head and are shy next time.
I do think 1792 full proof store picks are valid cuz they are only $45. Ive had good and bad like any other single barrel and stor pick. I do agree theres better for not much more $$ but it is a sub $50 bottle. Whistle pig 10 year store picks after a great sampling is the only time id ever buy anything whistle pig other than one time for the cool.piggy bank lol then reuse that pig to hold a good store pick
Agree on all but the 1792 FP due to price point. No need to buy one every time you see it but it’s a great bottle to have for around 50 bucks!
That’s crazy all the 1792 full proof never come off hot just sweet. I got a store pick from North cali and it’s the best full proof 1792 tons of watermelon and pear notes it’s delicious
I think I've commented this before, but I'm done with allocations. Especially Buffalo Trace. And especially Blanton's. This year I'm only buying store picks and local distilleries (I live in GA). The only exception will be the raffles or offers from my local store. And even then, I'll opt for something I've never had before and absolutely won't overpay.
I’m with you on most of your picks. However, I can’t agree on the Bakers 13 and the Bookers. I always have a steady supply of Bookers. To me it’s a great whiskey at a reasonable price. definitely agree on high west and Whistlepig. There’s so many other good ryes out there rather than whistle pig that I see no reason to pay the price. I used to be a huge fan of high west especially the midwinter night dram but now other places are doing the same thing with more character and at a lower price
I cannot imagine paying $270 for a bottle of booze, or $170, or for that matter $70. This is crazy time folks. I am happy with the bourbon I buy for $25-$60!
that is the beautiful thing about bourbon, there is product out there for everyone's money they want to spend
$60 or lower is the sweet spot
But think about it, a bottle makes 17 drinks and if you go to a bar with cheap drinks that’s $170-$240
@@Elastic_Rhino 17 drinks in a bottle….your logic does not work for me but good for you.
whats your everyday pour?
I am done with Maker’s Mark private selects. It’s been too long since I loved one.
Some brands/bottles I’m done with are:
Old Elk, I have had at least 5 different bottles and it’s just doesn’t live up to the price I paid.
Craft bourbons in general.
Pot still bourbons as well.
Cheers
Come visit us at Glenns Creek and we will change your mind on craft and pot distilled bourbon. Guaranteed.
It takes a lot of confidence to make a review like this but I applaud your candor. I for one appreciate reviews like this to help enthusiasts like me with an education perspective. It’s a valuable opinion in a world where every review is a plus plus.
Thank you gentlemen.
Anytime brother. We try not to be hateful or harsh but we just try to give our thoughts and to be fair. Thanks for the love and support!
Right there with y’all! Except 1792 FP. Love that bottle! 🍻
Love 1792 FP!!
I’m drinking a 1792 full proof barrel pick right now. 55 bucks.. 1792 in the past hasn’t had favorable reviews but this years batch has been very very good in my opinion
Agreed, first pour of a store pick was fantastic. I was a little surprised by the duo’s comments on flavor profile since the full proof had a complexity with the heat mentioned. The heat’s there at 125 proof but it’s worth the price of admission. (Got mine for $49.99)
Cheers!
I can’t find it in western Kentucky
I still found the store pick that I bought to be very hot and not in a good way. I had to finish my 1792 full proof with doctor pepper it was so hot. 🤷♂️
You should probably add A Mid Winters night Dram!
I agree! I finally found one after hearing everyone rave about it for years. Wasn’t my jam. I gave it away. Bye bye $200. 🤦🏼♂️😀
Agree with everything but the Baker’s 13, I’ve got 2 different ones and both are phenomenal.
Calumet 16 and Remus gatsby are A+++ bottles. Maybe a little overpriced, but the whiskey is awesome
FOMO keeps me from passing on ANYTHING! 🤣
Great list, and also great to see you passing on picks that everyone used to "rave" about. Flavour of the month we have learned to avoid...always come back to those legacy brands (some quite cheap!) you can't beat.
Well said!
I'm basically in agreement with all of these. Cal 16 is a great bourbon though. Not only is it really freaking good, but there is nowhere else where I'm going to be able to just walk into a store and buy a 16 year age stated product for MSRP. And at $10/year, the price holds up. Great whiskey, great availability, not a price gouge, it's a win-win-win.
My girlfriend fell in love with the five wood when we visited and I have spent too much money getting her bottles of it lol
I have only tried 4 Bookers Mighty fine Storyteller Kentucky Tea and one other, I have loved every one and plan to buy each release because I find them to be a TREMENDOUS Value. but thank you for discouraging others more for me
MSRP speaking, anything above $80 falls within the rule of diminishing returns for me. There are so many great bottles out there that won’t let you break the bank and still won’t let you miss anything that is “too good”.
Nice review!
Man I don't know on some of those. I absolutely loved Calumet 15 and 16 and would gladly buy and bunker more. 1792 FP is also fire. Totally agree though on High West, for me it's been overtaken by Sagamore in the world of everyday rye
Loved watching though and totally respect your pallets
The Willett 8 has very similar taste to last year's Old Fitzgerald 8 BIB, so if you like that flavor profile, it may actually be a deal. Retail for Retail, the Old Fitz is the better deal. Good luck finding one at retail, though. The Willett can be had for 235-250 and is much more common to find.
I am totally with you on the Calumet 16 Year. It just doesn't hold a candle to the Calumet 15 and my brain struggles with why? I have blinded both with multiple people and the 15 always rises to the top and the 16 is the caboose. I also have found multiple bottles of Calumet 15 at $110. Try doing that with the 16!
I got multiple bottles of the 15 @ $95, and the 16 @ $115, Costco. Love the 16! It just took some time to open up, but once it did it was wayyy better than the 15. Unless you're just looking for that cherry sweetness thenstick with the 15. 16 more complex and more dark, rich oak.
No more Angle's Envy bourbon or rye (have not tried their cask strength). 1792 FP is good, but a good store pick 1792 BiB or SB are more enjoyable for me. And I do enjoy a really good BP, like Elijah Craig and Larceny.
AE cask strength store picks can be great
There were finally a couple Bookers worth buying this year. The last good batch had been 04-2019.
Old Grand Dad 114 for the price point is awesome, also love Eagle Rare and 1792 bib. Green River rye and Bardstown origin bib.👍
I must have gotten lucky with the Baker's 13 that I picked up last year. Top 10 pour of last year for me.
What's up Gents? I'm new to your channel and to Bourbon "Selecting" this is some good info for a new guy! Thanks for the content, look forward to more.
Spot on with all these - way too much mid whiskey out there, especially for some of the price tags. Add Penelope, Angel’s Envy, Jefferson’s, Town Branch, Heaven’s Door, pretty much anything out of Texas (some of the Still Austin stuff is ok, but far from great), Pinhook, Blood Oath, - there are just so many!
An Old Fashioned with Whistle Pig 6 is a hitter. I still love Bookers.
I purchased a 1792 regular strength and I hated it! It tasted like medicine. My wife wouldn't let me pour it out so I mixed it with a OGD 114. It ended up pretty good!
Thanks for your channel. While I have not tried that many whiskeys (perhaps 50), there are only three I will not buy, or try, agaimn. Those are Frey Ranch Bourbon 4 Grain. I do not like flavor profile. Balcones Baby Blue Corn Whiskey and Balcones Lineage Single Malt. Again these do not fit my flavor profile. So far, I have not had any whiskey costing more than $130 and those over $100 I would buy again. Cheers!
Thanks for the love and support brother.
For the most part, the tastes aren’t matching the prices.
Dang! I though I would agree with more... but it seems you both don't like aged dark, rich oak in your bourbon 😂 NO Baker's 13, No Calumet 16, No Gatsby. Now I will say these are cheaper than what you paid (Baker's 13 $130, Calumet 16 $115 @ Costco, Gatsby $220) and I did not buy the Gatsby. Also Calumet took some time to open up for me, but once it did WOW! one of my favorites. And knockin 1792 FP??? It's $45-$50! I do agree with everything else, especially the Booker's and Mid Winter Nights Dram. The Woodford BP is $109 at Costco so not out 100% yet on that one. Definitley not your best list guys (for me) 😂😂😂
Garrison Brothers. It's just too funky for me
I always get cardboard like notes in this brand. I have even tasted it at the distillery in Texas. Suspect it is an oxidation note due to the higher temperature aging but not a fav.
Whistle pig is sourced Canadian.
Calumet 16 in CO at TW is 125. Love it and feel that is a great price.
I bought that Woodford Wheated distillery series last year. It was a drain pour it was the worst thing I’ve ever had.
I've never had Bakers...the price point is a major factor for me. I have difficulty going over $100-$125 for a single bottle
Bakers 7 is good and about 60
Four Roses small batch select. Anything 1792. Heaven Hill 7 year. Jeffersons Oceans Aged at Sea.... all over rated for the price
high west double rye is good though
The only Willet I can get, is the pot still. I like the bottle, that's about it.
Basil Hayden, Yellowstone. They’ve been moved to my mixer group
I agree with everything on this list. I would also add Elijah Craig Toasted, OF Single Barrel BP, Henry McKenna 10, Remus Repeal, and Blantons
I love EC Toasted. To each their own
Passing on all 1792s (FP included). Find the flavor profile more off putting recently.
100% agree on the Bookers and Willett too.
I’m passing on Rebel Cask Strength. Drinks very hot to me.
Old Ezra 7 and all Michter’s shelfers for me
As in keepers, or never buy again?
I stopped buying finished bourbons about two years ago. It was a good choice that I don't regret. I stopped buying any bourbons about 3 months ago. It was also a good choice. Now I just take the time I was hunting to invite friends and neighbors over for a pour or two. I'll buy again but bourbon is full on beanie babies for adults and there isn't a single one I have missed buying in the last few months that I think about. My wallet is thanking me as well.
The hype and cost of some of the corn juice is just not worth it! Jim Beam, Jack Daniels, Old Forester, Bulleit and Buffalo Trace make good consistent products at a fair price for their product lines! I have some higher priced great bottles and some smaller distiller amazing finds but pricing IS out of control!
Bulleit🤣🤣🤣🤣
Booker's not bad, expensive.
I’ve tried the last two Boss Hogs and I think the WP 12yr is the best by far:) my Calumet 16 is just not that good, my Sam Houston 14 is really nice! My 1792 full proof is sweet and not hot at all, I haven’t had a High West that I’ve liked yet. Never had the Gatsby?
Good stuff
I agree, the calumet 16 just doesn’t do it for me. I’d buy a RRSB, KC12 and a host of other bourbons before I’d buy other calumet 16 - and save a ton of cash.
Thanks for the woodford tips. Empty bank account into OF line of bottles.
You talking about the Sonoma blend I have 3 bottles
Time to get to 20k bc you guys are the best
i wish u guys drank during these videos it would make them more fun
So we normally do reviews before we record these videos so if we did drink during these we would be tanked 😆 🤣 😂.
I have 2 baker's 11 years 8 months state pic from Ohio The one I opened was pretty good
I must be weird, I like all the Woodford Reserve Special Releases and think Double Oaked is beyond overrated.
congac XO finished. I have it but haven't opened it yet
Woodinville
Blue Run!
I love High West Double Rye, but their regular bourbon was a disappointment for me.
I’ve been complaining about 1792 Full Proof not delivering enough flavor for the proof for years.
I was sad to have a friend ask me if he should pick up a bottle of MWND and having to tell him that it was just too expensive for what it is. And that is true pretty much across the lineup. I hear the latest Bourye is really good, but it’s distillery only, so I wouldn’t know. Maybe you need to live in Utah for it to be good…
I love this video- steer people way from my bookers so I can find it easier lol I love them all
it was good for 60 but 100 is a no go.
@@deangood6682 you could say that about any bourbon pretty much though- it’s all gone up
any plans for bourbon festival gentlemen? coming down for weekend…would be great to see a group event/get together.
1792 FP is a cherry bomb… unreal you put that in the list
You have to get the right pick and know the person picking.
Just getting to the bottom of store pick bottle of 1792 Full Proof. It's Hot Dam Good!
Boss Hogs are amazing!!!
The bottle is “COOL” but you can’t drink cool…. 8:18 😂🤣👍
Lol
I watch all of your vids (nice work btw) and have never agreed more with you guys than with this one. I literally might have picked the exact same bottles for this list. Half of these are just so gahtdamn’d overpriced for the juice that’s now in the bottle that it is so easy to pass on them.
Totally agree and thanks for all the love and support brother.
Whistlepig, mostly expensive. I haven't had it and probably wouldn't buy it.
So weird, both my 1792 FP drink WAY under proof. My OFSiB all drink like gasoline.
1792 FP at half the cost of old forester FP and way more findable. That said, my 1792 also drinks hot…never been able to find the old forester, but when bringing price / availability in it doesn’t seem like the best comp
good stuff as usual boys, cheers
Much appreciated
Never seen or of heard of Baker's.
Four Roses single barrel is just not my bag, baby... never had a batch that whispered in my ear. Maybe I don't get it.
Spot on with everything.
yeah, The bakers 13 was disappointing, i wont buy blantons or any weller, categorically, i’m also over old carter, any any VOSN bottle.
Angels envy and anything whistlepig
When a cask strength double oaked woodford distillery drops I bet y’all will be all over it😂
Like we said there can be exceptions to the rule 😆 🤣 😂
Great bottle picks for bourbon to pass on. I would never buy any whiskey because the bottle looks cool. At the end of the day, the bottle gets tossed in the garbage. It's just marketing for more money. Great review.
Well said!
Woodford Reserve I meant.
Damn guys lol. I love just about every thing you mentioned! Not everybody can get Michters 10 Year or all of the HH LE stuff….
I get it but we always want to be honest with what we like and don't like.
@@bourbonkingdom I still love watching you guys 🤣
Makers Mark….every bottle I’ve ever had just tastes like I put a raw oak stave in my mouth. Agree with the Bookers.
Hard pass on all finished whiskey and MGP. Give me some caramel, vanilla, butterscotch, and barrel char all day long…..
1792 full proof. The last two bottles I’ve bought the cork has broken in the bottle
The cork broke on my 12 year 😮. but I have the entire 1792 line and I think they all drink hot IMO.
With this FOMO teasing our wallets to the brink. I love the anti-hype videos like this. Please more bang for the buck. Line up things in some blinds SLB does it lots. Shoutout curiosity public. They blinded many tequilas and had many surprises. Especially when it takes the wind out of the hype brands. It's needed when publicity in any shape gets a hold of your wallet, then come regret and disappointed when it doesn't line up with what someone said. I'm a beginner. Kind of. But when an $80 bottle of something is a let down compared to a $50. You scratch your head and are shy next time.
Love my Calumet 16, but I only paid $130 for it. However, I totally agree with you about the 1792 Full Proof. I bought one and won’t buy any others.
What's your favorite rye under 60?
still austin, green river, redwood empire
What are yalls thoughts on Good Times & their insane artificial barrel finishes? 👀
Yeah not a fan to be honest.
@@bourbonkingdom seems to be the norm for anyone who has ethics lol
Agree
I do think 1792 full proof store picks are valid cuz they are only $45. Ive had good and bad like any other single barrel and stor pick. I do agree theres better for not much more $$ but it is a sub $50 bottle. Whistle pig 10 year store picks after a great sampling is the only time id ever buy anything whistle pig other than one time for the cool.piggy bank lol then reuse that pig to hold a good store pick
I was sorely disappointed by Jim Beams Hardin Creek. I won’t buy it again.
Damn i just bought a 1792 full proof store pick i been excited to try lol
Look just because we don't love them doesn't mean you won't brother. Everyone's palate is different
News flash, it’s none of the thumbnail bourbons 😂
Look at the back row a little more closely my friend.
@@bourbonkingdom nah don’t you start, y’all put those beauties at the front for a reason 🤣😜
@@HappyMrMealFACTS!!! Especially that 4 Roses BS!
You gotta spice it up my guy lol.
Agree with you on Bookers and Bakers 13
You had me fooled with the clickbait-y thumbnail 😂 i was about to throw hands in defense of my beloved four roses SBPS, even at $100 a pop these days.
Woodford is ok.
Whistle Pig is so overpriced. Would you include the Woodford Master's Series Five-Malt Stouted Mash as a speciality release as a no buy?
I thought I was the only one that felt the 1792 full proof ran super hot.. easy subscribe!
Thanks Dan!!!
I stopped buying sourced juice at high price points, looking at you Old Carter and Kentucky Owl.
Another one I would pass on is Breckenridge. It tastes watered down.
And 1792 Full Proof is hot…but all the other 1792’s are awesome.
Duh it's high proof... put a big cube in it and it's very good