Hello, my name is Michael Rose. I’m a member of the Choctaw Nation and I have 12 of my ancestors buried there. I can probably answer most of your questions
Barbara and Tim, thank you for this post. I’d be weeping too, it’s so tragic to think of what our Native America families endured under Andrew Jackson. Thank you for the love and care you demonstrate. ❤
My great grandmother was Choctaw from mississippi area.had family on trail of tears to Oklahoma .had babies die durning this time.very hard on them. Some stayed and others made their way back to the Mississippi delta area where they remaimed
You made my day. I live in Pennsylvania but all my dads family comes from Oklahoma. I got to see my ancestors graves for the first time in this video. At 36:18 you read Marry E. 1846-1862. Daughter of Col Tandy c walker and Elzira walker( 1st wife). At 36:51 was Douglas walker infant son of col tandy c walker and 2nd wife cillen krebbs walker. At 37:00 was Robert Walker 1851-1871 also son of Tandy and cillen. At 37:38 is Governor of the Choctaw nation from 1858-1859 col tandy c walker 1814-1877 who is my great great great great uncle. The grave unreadable next to him could possibly be his second wife cillen
Oh my goodness . We’re going to go back and do another one later . Thank you for watching . If you have any stories we would love to share them next time
I’m looking for Tandy c walkers brothers grave. Which is my 4 great grandfather. His name was Lewis or Louis walker 1818-1842. If you happen to come across any info where he’s buried I would be very interested
Really interesting. Powerful message on that monument. The grave stone for Hearts Delight is amazing. He parents obviously adored their little girl by giving her such a precious name. I look forward to your spring visit.
Everyone in Kansas called my dad Choctaw John. His name was changed to John Anderson by the church school in the early 30's when he was a small child. His father was Choctaw and buried in Oklahoma. I barely remember the funeral in 1968 of his father. I do remember them saying he was buried in a piano shipping box. My father was also a big man of 6"4. I wish I would have learned more from my dad before he died in 1999. My dad was the kindest man I ever met and he never met a stranger. He served in the Korean War and loved to play the guitar and harmonica. He never talked about his family on his dad's side and I never remember going to Oklahoma to visit the graves. RIP daddy. You guy's do a great job. I love historic cemeteries and do my share of walking them in Arkansas and Tennessee.
William and Susan Hall's other children listed on the emigration were Jane Hall Folsom, Jackson Hall, Joseph Hall, Robert Hall, Silas Hall, Sarah Hall Trahern, Margaret Hall Moncrief, Louisa Hall, Catherine Hall Wall Stephens, and Martha Hall. William and Susan were force moved from their home near the Tombigee River in Mississippi during the Dancing Rabbit Creek of 1830 to the new Choctaw Nation in Oklahoma.
There was large HALL family Quaker. who came over with William PENN & William RICHARDSON the Quaker preacher late 1680s, if i remember rightly. Other related families PIERPONT, RICHARDSON, MARQUIS, BUCK, some of them landed in northern Shenandoah Valley mid1700s, left the Quaker, too restrictive for folks out to the frontier lands. Wish i could remember more. Kit RICHARDSON of Swords Creek Va. Another name from there McGLOTHIN. Also a daughter of Quanah Parker married a PURDY, who were from Waxhaws, some of the Native Names are in their tribal languages. Hope this helps in your researches. Genealogy is truly the Gift that keeps on Giving. 👍.
Being 1/2 Native American myself, I would request that upon your return to the Choctaw Burial Grounds, take with you some tobacco and before entering the Burial Grounds say Prayers and then scatter some of the tobacco at the entrance to the Burial Grounds. Thank You very much for what Y'all are doing.
That was a beautiful memorial stone. You are much like me, I'd have been squalling, too. I cry when i see stones for babies, especially the statuette of a baby asleep with a lamb. All the young children, hurts my heart. I love to just honor them by recognizing that they lived by visiting cemeteries. Part of my family were Cherokee on the Trail of Tears. For this reason my great grandmother was born in Oklahoma, but was taken back to the south, in Georgia. It must have been devastating to be on that trail so near giving birth. Her mother died, the trail probably contributed to that. Terrible times, they were. I'm a new sub, love your videos! Lord bless and keep you❤🙏
Thank you both for sharing. I know the descendants of these folks who live far away and may never have the chance to visit the graves of their ancestors will truly appreciate your video and visit.. You give them the chance to do that, not just in pictures, but in actual video ❣️
@@barbaraschleiff3774 I had to go back and redo my message to you. My phone connection has lagged since we got all the ice and snow last week. That message made no sense at all lol. Anyway, I really enjoyed this video and yes I got the tears as you read. The suffering these people endured was so horrific 😔
This was a really good video. So very sad to see so many deaths, especially of children. My heart goes out to the Native American people that lost so many ancestors on the Trail Of Tears. It should never have happened. I read all the comments and found then all to be very respectful except one. Many ancestors of the ones buried here. I wish they would do a ground penetrating search and at least make it as a grave. I realize they don't know who it may be, but at least it will be marked as a grave unknown. Also, maybe a list of names of the ones they know may be buried there would be nice. Their names listed on a monument. Thank you for doing this video.
I just fell on to your video. And as I was reading some of the title, you had a tombstone, with the last Riddle. My grandpa's last name is Riddle, with him being born in Antlers OK. My grandma also from Antlers' was an Earls. Her Father was Joseph B. Earls. He had his name on a building at one time in Antlers. I don't remember which tribe my grandma was from, Choctaw or Chickasaw. She was dark skinned even when she was near her death. She told me her Grandma was a full blood Native. My grandpa said he was Cherokee. Bless their hearts, both passed in the 1990's and I miss them, so this was good. Thank you.
William Hall was born in 1793 and died in 1838. He was 45. His wife Susan Riddle Hall was born in 1793 and died in 1858. Their child Martha Hall died in 1838. Their child Eliza Hall died in 1838. This cemetery is also known as the "Old Hall Cemetery" by the WPA, Im assuming during the 1930s. There is more info on Find a Grave. William and Susan were both of a Choctaw mix ancestry. Some has William's death listed as 1834. Thank you both for showing us this cemetery. It's just so sad.
Twas a large RIDDLE family moved from Va to Ky and onward. One of them was Happy Rogers who married a RIDDLE, and some of the girls were named Happy after her. ALSO wondering if they are related to RIDDLE of Va, Md, or Dutch Fork of SC?
Thank you both so much for videoing this cemetery. When you read the Indian memorial it brought tears to my eyes, I have always said that exact thing that is written there. The Lanier name is pronounced La-near :) there are lots of Lanier's living where I live and that is how I know the way it is pronounced, please keep up the great work! I too used to research old abandoned cemeteries and I actually had a pad and pencil with me everywhere I went :) I so miss doing it now! God Bless you both!
Does anyone know how to get a hold of the owners of this channel? I have some important information for them about the Scullyville cemetery and a video that I did for the Choctaw Nation.
Some of these graves were freedmen. When going take paper and pencil and stencil over the name if unreadable it helps. I am native and I can only find my great grandparents. My great great grandfather Jim Shamanta Gibson walked the trail of tear. He is mentioned in the movie “Pearlie”. I am Choctaw and Chickasaw. I’m very proud of that but graves for natives😢 are hard to find. Skullyville means money the town is where they came to get their allotment money.
I have visited Skullyville several times. I was told that many of the headstones there were removed and dropped into an old outhouse hole decades ago and then the hole was filled in by the vandals that did it. Don't know for sure if this is true but it would explain the missing stones.
Enjoying this video very much. Since so many families died during the same year when you do your research could there had been a disease that took so many? Also, from the site of this cemetary how far away did the reminding families live? Looking forward to more of your videos. Awesome job. They will not be forgotten. 😢
My late partner told me he was half Choctaw. I asked which parent. He said both. 🤦♀️😳. So each of his parents were half. I won’t mention names because for some reason his parents brought their kids up not to be proud of their heritage. The parents moved from Oklahoma. I’ll be proud for him.
I’ve watched Chanel’s of people who clean and repair gravestones, and tell the stories. But there are ways to read or transcribe the engraving without ruining them. I just don’t know what it is. A teacher I worked with used to give kids parchment 😊super and art charcoal of sorts and the students would rub the gravestone then research the people. I’m not sure that is still a common method.
My grandmother was charcoal Indian in Mississippi I would like to know if y'all ever took a tour of the chalk Carnation in Mississippi my grandmother's name was Mabel
Schmuck is Yiddish, surprised it is a person's last name! Who are these people and where did they come from? Are there only the two with the name? Who was the father?
@at 35:48 approximately, the gravestone says that person had been murdered. It would be wise, if you intend on coming back, to bring some rain water and a scrub brush with you. If it were me, I would hope that y’all went a little bit slower. I would also advise that you not walk over the ground where people are buried. It’s disrespectful. Other than that I enjoyed your show.
Since a lot of markers were removed, how would they know they are walking on a grave. Cemeteries even now place them so close it’s impossible to not walk over. No one means to be disrespectful.
What I was trying to say and it came out wrong my grandmother Mabel Harper was chocolate Indian it's still coming out wrong I'm going to try to type it next time
Hello, my name is Michael Rose. I’m a member of the Choctaw Nation and I have 12 of my ancestors buried there. I can probably answer most of your questions
Oh my goodness . Do you live in this area ?
Quanah Parker?
Seems like the older I get the more I miss the old days of my childhood
Yes me too
Me too
I have a lot of chactaw music. I'm native American myself. I'm Ojibwe Indian. And proud to say I'm Native American.
Wow , awesome
Thank you so much for using the flashlight to read these monuments and stones. So much better. thank you for going to this cemetery. That is HISTORY!!
Oh my goodness it’s an awesome cemetery. We will go back and do a better job . Thank you so much
@@barbaraschleiff3774
Can you use a bigger flashlight?
Barbara and Tim, thank you for this post. I’d be weeping too, it’s so tragic to think of what our Native America families endured under Andrew Jackson. Thank you for the love and care you demonstrate. ❤
Thank you for the kind comment
My great grandmother was Choctaw from mississippi area.had family on trail of tears to Oklahoma .had babies die durning this time.very hard on them. Some stayed and others made their way back to the Mississippi delta area where they remaimed
Oh wow . Very said
You made my day. I live in Pennsylvania but all my dads family comes from Oklahoma. I got to see my ancestors graves for the first time in this video. At 36:18 you read Marry E. 1846-1862. Daughter of Col Tandy c walker and Elzira walker( 1st wife). At 36:51 was Douglas walker infant son of col tandy c walker and 2nd wife cillen krebbs walker. At 37:00 was Robert Walker 1851-1871 also son of Tandy
and cillen. At 37:38 is Governor of the Choctaw nation from 1858-1859 col tandy c walker 1814-1877
who is my great great great great uncle. The grave unreadable next to him could possibly be his second wife cillen
Oh my goodness . We’re going to go back and do another one later . Thank you for watching . If you have any stories we would love to share them next time
I will ask my dad if he knows any
I’m looking for Tandy c walkers brothers grave. Which is my 4 great grandfather. His name was Lewis or Louis walker 1818-1842. If you happen to come across any info where he’s buried I would be very interested
Have you looked on find a grave
Really interesting. Powerful message on that monument. The grave stone for Hearts Delight is amazing. He parents obviously adored their little girl by giving her such a precious name. I look forward to your spring visit.
Thank you
What a beautiful memorial monument ❤to the Choctaw people
Yes
Everyone in Kansas called my dad Choctaw John. His name was changed to John Anderson by the church school in the early 30's when he was a small child. His father was Choctaw and buried in Oklahoma. I barely remember the funeral in 1968 of his father. I do remember them saying he was buried in a piano shipping box. My father was also a big man of 6"4. I wish I would have learned more from my dad before he died in 1999. My dad was the kindest man I ever met and he never met a stranger. He served in the Korean War and loved to play the guitar and harmonica. He never talked about his family on his dad's side and I never remember going to Oklahoma to visit the graves. RIP daddy. You guy's do a great job. I love historic cemeteries and do my share of walking them in Arkansas and Tennessee.
William and Susan Hall's other children listed on the emigration were Jane Hall Folsom, Jackson Hall, Joseph Hall, Robert Hall, Silas Hall, Sarah Hall Trahern, Margaret Hall Moncrief, Louisa Hall, Catherine Hall Wall Stephens, and Martha Hall. William and Susan were force moved from their home near the Tombigee River in Mississippi during the Dancing Rabbit Creek of 1830 to the new Choctaw Nation in Oklahoma.
So sad
There was large HALL family Quaker. who came over with William PENN & William RICHARDSON the Quaker preacher late 1680s, if i remember rightly.
Other related families PIERPONT, RICHARDSON, MARQUIS, BUCK, some of them landed in northern Shenandoah Valley mid1700s, left the Quaker, too restrictive for folks out to the frontier lands. Wish i could remember more. Kit RICHARDSON of Swords Creek Va. Another name from there McGLOTHIN.
Also a daughter of Quanah Parker married a PURDY, who were from Waxhaws, some of the Native Names are in their tribal languages. Hope this helps in your researches. Genealogy is truly the Gift that keeps on Giving. 👍.
There isn't very many headstones there. That's sad
I was crying along with you reading the monument. Beautiful Cemetery.
Oh my goodness , it caught me off guard . Had to go to the car to get Kleenex and let Tim finish it
Being 1/2 Native American myself, I would request that upon your return to the Choctaw Burial Grounds, take with you some tobacco and before entering the Burial Grounds say Prayers and then scatter some of the tobacco at the entrance to the Burial Grounds. Thank You very much for what Y'all are doing.
Thanks for watching
That was a beautiful memorial stone. You are much like me, I'd have been squalling, too. I cry when i see stones for babies, especially the statuette of a baby asleep with a lamb. All the young children, hurts my heart. I love to just honor them by recognizing that they lived by visiting cemeteries.
Part of my family were Cherokee on the Trail of Tears. For this reason my great grandmother was born in Oklahoma, but was taken back to the south, in Georgia. It must have been devastating to be on that trail so near giving birth. Her mother died, the trail probably contributed to that. Terrible times, they were.
I'm a new sub, love your videos! Lord bless and keep you❤🙏
Thank you and God bless you
Thank you both for sharing. I know the descendants of these folks who live far away and may never have the chance to visit the graves of their ancestors will truly appreciate your video and visit.. You give them the chance to do that, not just in pictures, but in actual video ❣️
Our pleasure! Thank you . This one was hard for me
@@barbaraschleiff3774 I had to go back and redo my message to you. My phone connection has lagged since we got all the ice and snow last week. That message made no sense at all lol. Anyway, I really enjoyed this video and yes I got the tears as you read. The suffering these people endured was so horrific 😔
Thank you for sharing this beautiful resting place. I look forward to hearing more about the wonderful people who's bodies rest there.
Yes . And read the comments also , some of their relatives are commenting. It’s awesome . Thank you for watching
This was a really good video. So very sad to see so many deaths, especially of children. My heart goes out to the Native American people that lost so many ancestors on the Trail Of Tears. It should never have happened. I read all the comments and found then all to be very respectful except one. Many ancestors of the ones buried here. I wish they would do a ground penetrating search and at least make it as a grave. I realize they don't know who it may be, but at least it will be marked as a grave unknown. Also, maybe a list of names of the ones they know may be buried there would be nice. Their names listed on a monument. Thank you for doing this video.
Thank you for the kind comment and for watching
I just fell on to your video. And as I was reading some of the title, you had a tombstone, with the last Riddle. My grandpa's last name is Riddle, with him being born in Antlers OK. My grandma also from Antlers' was an Earls. Her Father was Joseph B. Earls. He had his name on a building at one time in Antlers. I don't remember which tribe my grandma was from, Choctaw or Chickasaw. She was dark skinned even when she was near her death. She told me her Grandma was a full blood Native. My grandpa said he was Cherokee. Bless their hearts, both passed in the 1990's and I miss them, so this was good. Thank you.
I’m so glad . Her name was Hearts Delight Riddle , 12 years old , oh my goodness this video was hard for me . Thank you for watching
I think RIDDLE was Dutch Fork family 1740s.
William Hall was born in 1793 and died in 1838. He was 45. His wife Susan Riddle Hall was born in 1793 and died in 1858. Their child Martha Hall died in 1838. Their child Eliza Hall died in 1838. This cemetery is also known as the "Old Hall Cemetery" by the WPA, Im assuming during the 1930s. There is more info on Find a Grave. William and Susan were both of a Choctaw mix ancestry. Some has William's death listed as 1834. Thank you both for showing us this cemetery. It's just so sad.
Oh wow , thank you so much
@@barbaraschleiff3774I'm still finding some more of their children.
They had a son Joseph Hall. The child Joseph buried is probably William and Susan's grandson.
Thank for your information. Do you know if there was a sickness because they lost so many of their family in 1 year?
Twas a large RIDDLE family moved from Va to Ky and onward. One of them was Happy Rogers who married a RIDDLE, and some of the girls were named Happy after her. ALSO wondering if they are related to RIDDLE of Va, Md, or Dutch Fork of SC?
Thanks for taking us along. There is such sadness and loss here.
Yes :( thank you for watching
What a beautiful cemetery well mowed for now and hopefully some restoration can be done
Yes
1838 was post trail of tears I believe. A lot of illnesses and poverty. Our government seems to always make poor decisions.
Thanks for watching
Trail of Tears was 1831-1850.
New subscriber been watching few of your videos. Loved this one beautiful resting place. God bless you all.
Thank you for watching
God Bless you both and Thank you
I really enjoy your stories, thank you for your research ❤
Thank you for the kind comment
Thank you both so much for videoing this cemetery. When you read the Indian memorial it brought tears to my eyes, I have always said that exact thing that is written there. The Lanier name is pronounced La-near :) there are lots of Lanier's living where I live and that is how I know the way it is pronounced, please keep up the great work! I too used to research old abandoned cemeteries and I actually had a pad and pencil with me everywhere I went :) I so miss doing it now! God Bless you both!
Thank you so much . Yes it was rough reading the monument. I was expecting that
Amazing cemetery, very touching, Thank You
Thank you for watching
Does anyone know how to get a hold of the owners of this channel? I have some important information for them about the Scullyville cemetery and a video that I did for the Choctaw Nation.
Dayspringvb@hotmail.com , thank you
This was a very interesting cemetery. Thank you both for the preview!
Thank you so much
1838 was the middle of the Trail of Tears. Those poor children died being relocated. 💔💔💔
So sad
Really enjoyed this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Some of these graves were freedmen. When going take paper and pencil and stencil over the name if unreadable it helps. I am native and I can only find my great grandparents. My great great grandfather Jim Shamanta Gibson walked the trail of tear. He is mentioned in the movie “Pearlie”. I am Choctaw and Chickasaw. I’m very proud of that but graves for natives😢 are hard to find. Skullyville means money the town is where they came to get their allotment money.
Yes thank you
Anny & William Merryman (is my great-Grandparents and 10 other ancestors are buried there. I live in CA but my Cousin Michael lives near by. ❤
Oh wow ! Do you think he would share stories with us for a video ?
Yes
Dayspringvb@hotmail.com if he’s interested
I cried too. It's so hard to imagine what these people had to bear. It's heart breaking.
Yes . Thanks for watching
Absolutely 💯 beautiful cemetery ❤
It really is!
I have visited Skullyville several times. I was told that many of the headstones there were removed and dropped into an old outhouse hole decades ago and then the hole was filled in by the vandals that did it. Don't know for sure if this is true but it would explain the missing stones.
Oh goodness , so sad
It's so very sad the way the Indians was treated. My grandma was Cheerekee Indian.
They counties and towns were named after the people. ❤
Yes
Love to your heart ❤
Thank you for watching
BOWER/BOWERS was a Dutch Fork family 1740s.
Enjoying this video very much. Since so many families died during the same year when you do your research could there had been a disease that took so many? Also, from the site of this cemetary how far away did the reminding families live? Looking forward to more of your videos. Awesome job. They will not be forgotten. 😢
We will try to get more information. Thanks for watching
I added a link. Starvation, measles, pneumonia, etc took their lives 💔
We called those big marbles…boulders… but I’m 79 and female.
Thanks for watching
Thank you for sharing. I think Typhoid , smallpox, some kind of disease might been the problem. I’m not sure.
Thank you for watching
My late partner told me he was half Choctaw. I asked which parent. He said both. 🤦♀️😳. So each of his parents were half. I won’t mention names because for some reason his parents brought their kids up not to be proud of their heritage. The parents moved from Oklahoma. I’ll be proud for him.
Oh yes ! Thanks for watching
33:05 ❤like the names of towns and counties after Choctaw people
Yes :)
Worried if I cleaned up the one older stone that the letters would just rub off instead of being able to see it they are so worn ❤❤
Yes you have to be careful with them
I’ve watched Chanel’s of people who clean and repair gravestones, and tell the stories. But there are ways to read or transcribe the engraving without ruining them. I just don’t know what it is. A teacher I worked with used to give kids parchment 😊super and art charcoal of sorts and the students would rub the gravestone then research the people. I’m not sure that is still a common method.
My goodness😭
I know :(
It was a part of the Trail of Tears. Also involved in the civil war 1932 to 1839 . Could they be causualties of war?
Civil War was 1860-1865. They were just part of the Choctaw removal.
Thanks for watching
My grandmother was charcoal Indian in Mississippi I would like to know if y'all ever took a tour of the chalk Carnation in Mississippi my grandmother's name was Mabel
No we haven’t
I looked some of these up a lot died from Yellow Fever on the Trail of Tears that are buried here.
Thanks for the information
Heartbreaking!
First time for me seeing this my grandmother was C h oh
Thsnks for watching
Schmuck is Yiddish, surprised it is a person's last name! Who are these people and where did they come from? Are there only the two with the name? Who was the father?
Good questions
Our anstords are buried there
Thanks for watching
Might I suggest you take a brush to clean off the moss? Thanks for sharing your videos.
Thanks for the tip!
I a m on,ly half choctaw my dad died and .my mother stuck our paperwork with him i dont know how to get our paperwork to go back
Oh goodness . Hopefully you can figure that out
Could it have been because of the Trail of Tears?
Yes , thank you for watching
@at 35:48 approximately, the gravestone says that person had been murdered. It would be wise, if you intend on coming back, to bring some rain water and a scrub brush with you. If it were me, I would hope that y’all went a little bit slower. I would also advise that you not walk over the ground where people are buried. It’s disrespectful. Other than that I enjoyed your show.
Thank you for watching
A lot of graves are unmarked and the stones, which were just rocks, were removed. It is so sad.
Since a lot of markers were removed, how would they know they are walking on a grave. Cemeteries even now place them so close it’s impossible to not walk over. No one means to be disrespectful.
You also have to be careful of what you use to clean old stones with. Sometimes it makes them worse.
Trail of tears disease was cholera
Thanks for watching
What I was trying to say and it came out wrong my grandmother Mabel Harper was chocolate Indian it's still coming out wrong I'm going to try to type it next time
Thanks for watching
We are going to come back when there are more leaves, proceeds to read more headstones. BTW the term "Indian" is offensive.
Thanks for watching
You said neat 10 times in the first 2 minuten. I'm out.
I understand , Our videos aren’t for everyone
Neat compares to the millennial use of “awesome,” or Gen X use of “cool,” relax, Willy.