India had larger GDP even larger than china for centuries before British c0l0nisation.india can surpass china but didn't because of anglicist pro western indians who control india didn't allow india to progress .
Historically China had larger GDP in the world, not India. India was not united in a state, but small Agricuture bases prince counties, and selling spices.
Indian mentality is similar to than of Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. Chinese mentality is similar to Japanese and Koreans who too have been successful populations.
😂😂 if you understand the US nuclear doctrine, you'd understand that even though India is an ally of sort, if there is any possibility they'll grow to compete with the US, America would rather leave it in ash than allow that to happen. Any chance of India being the next China depends on constant peace.
There is no common path development wise between India and China as they are too culturally and intellectually diverse. So as you said Indians should find their own way.
Yeah not much to take from China. Their government's efficiency and people's values aren't something that can be learned easily from any other country. Best to take what India has already and go from there.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes. West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜 Now let us discuss successes of India 1. SURVIVAL India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour. West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan. 2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing. But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it. I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc. India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
Anywhere in the world, if there is a border dispute, it is usually the result of a line drawn by an Englishman; if it is an internal dispute, it is usually the US fueling it. Difference in implementation of divide and conquer strategy.
For thousands of years in China, there was a saying . If you want to be rich , first you must build the roads. Infrastructure in China is decades ahead of India.
@@MaitraRoy I totally agreed with you about the recent development on the infrastructures and highways in India. The infrastructures and highways improved the movements of people. However, the real heavy weights of moving raw materials and finished products are railways, The India government, you and I all know that. The major problem lies in land acquisitions for building new rail systems and highspeed rails, The old system cannot be demolished for rebuild because it will paralyze current transport. Believe me, I can feel the pains in this struggle.
If china was so intelligent then why was china GDP was tinier india GDP for centuries before uk colonisation.india didn't progress because of anglicist indians or pro west indians who controlled india since India's independence off uk.
As an Indian , what i see from happening in India is that, no we are the Next China. Our politicians still play the religion card wildly. I would even say, that India today maybe more divided than British rule. From the kind of polarisation and extremist that is constantly fed into their minds is insane. The justification for it is even bizarre, religion. Indians don't have their priorities right. Education, science, infrastructure, development, healthcare isn't on cards for them, but temples, mosques, Churches are. There is no desire to go with the change, everything has to exactly as the Indian culture was like in history of the history. We don't want to even debate the core issues. The gender discrimination, religious extremism, civil rights and social security is just a disaster. I could go on and on. But the thing is these problems are not quick fixes. So i don't believe until the challenges i shed light on and even i ones i forgot to mention, if are not taken care of, it's hard to tell how we might fail as a country
China doesn't need routine elections. This allows their govt to set truly long term goals and objectives. India is a political melting pot. Modi barley scraped home recently. India can never unite long enough to overcome a multitude of intenal conflicts and set long term goals and objectives. India still has a colonised mindset. They are always looking for someone to bow down to. They need to educate, house and employ their 550 MILLION Dalits. Until that happens, they have no chance of becoming a truly united superpower ike China.
not only the dalits but also its musim and christian minorities, modi and his govt all about hate and division, you dont become a super power with large sections of your country totally marginalised and othered
Very good analysis. Colonized people cannot be productive or creative because they are demoralized and crushed. India would benefit from joining forces with China to build the BRI and resist the West Imperialist agenda, which is the primary obstruction to the development of the global south.
China has routine elections to select qualified local officials at the village level. If those locals are good, they will be promoted to manage larger areas with greater responsibility. Chinese governance is professional and meritocratic, following the bureaucratic tradition going back to 221 BC. The Chinese have had the unification concept for roughly 3,000 years, and were first unified over 2,000 years ago. India was formed externally, and doesn't have the same concepts in their culture. If India is to compete with China, they're going to have to push education and professionalism much harder.
@@ZweiZwolf no what really defines India - is Sanatan Dharma for thousands of years. India common culture of Sanatan Dharma is what defines it - and keeps it united as you see it today.
When a foreign company is looking for building a new factory, or new office somewhere in China, the local government/bureau (depends on the size of that company) will mostly come to aid and help that company in every possible way so it can operate softly, with all kinds of infrastrutures. When a foreign company is looking for building a new factory, or new office somewhere in India, every local bureau senses corrupted money, they will let you grow a bit for a period of time and then harvest and squeeze you in every possible way, with shortage of electric power and water supply. And that's only a fraction of the differences.
That used to happen, but that can hardly be said to be happening now... also lets talk about Guangxi and the treatment of foreign businesses and the theft of their IP properties in China.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes. West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜 Now let us discuss successes of India 1. SURVIVAL India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour. West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan. 2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing. But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it. I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc. India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
China's success is the result of capable and competent government and hard working people. Chinese government has successfully combined capitalist and communist systems and made a system that fits China's own tradition, culture and development stage. China's step by step, region by region approach worked very well. China's flexibility and versatile economic policies are also the key factor for China's success. Chinese government is a very much people oriented government who puts the needs of its people at first priority. Every step of the economic development in China, benefits to its people always put on as first priority. That is the reason, all Chinese people have been benefited tremendously from China's development and modernization took place in the last 40 years or so. China has lifted extreme poverty in the country. This is a great contribution not only for China but for the world. China does not need assistance from UN on food products but India does. China took away the burden from UN. Unlike the West who got rich and powerful by invading, looting, genocide and destroying other countries, rising China did not do any of that.
Thanks @peterwilliams7335 for telling like it is. China utilized a good mix of strong government control with the best of capitalism in a humanistic manner. I hope India will find an "Indian" way to move forward.
India is not the next China for few basic facts : Diversity in Culture, Religion, Ethnicity, Language, Regional power house and above all Democracy. China doesn't all these obstacles to built up the nation economically and financially in just a short period of 60 years. China swallowed with great pain and sacrifices to provide the world with cheap goods but learned hard and fast to develop its own industry base. Today it has established a complete industrial supply chain no other country can rival or imitate to produce goods efficiently and effectively. Therefore besides all India internal nightmare, it will be more than impossible to establish a equal efficient supply chain to outdo China. Take for example, the iPhone assembly line in India, all its parts and components have to imported from China. Oops have you ever heard of India being the graveyard for multi nationals?
India should focus on resolving their social issues and division first otherwise they will never become an industrial powerhouse. The success of China's economy is largely due to the fact that their government successfully united the people after the chaos of the WWII.
Modi's democracy 1) did a 8 x Bollywood MI6 in Qatar? 2) did a "Hardeep Singh Nijjar" in Canada? 3) did a "Nikhil Gupta" in USA? 4) did a "Constable Chetan Singh" to the non voters in India? 5) how many more "buttonmen" has he got to "fix" his political opponents and non voters? These facts should tell you whether the voting process is fair. 🤭😅🤣😂Think logically, think independently, think with an open mind and think smart.
I dispute that democracy is India's obstacle to success. In 1960, if you go around the world and talk to 100 world's top economic experts, 100 of them will say India's economy will be much more successful than China's because China practices communism...
@@soudagurpreetam4227 What a stupid narrative dude... Your Indian CEOs don't mean anything. Remember what happened to Indian CEO named "Parag Agrawal"? Why was he fired? Because he isn't the one who built the company? He is merely an employee?
@@soudagurpreetam4227 Indians like to talk extremely big about their Indian CEOs but what is their Indian CEOs on the Global Stage? In the ranking list of "Fortune 500 companies" or "Forbes Global 2000 companies", representing the World's richest/biggest companies, where does India stands? India has merely 55 companies in Forbes Global 2000 companies" and all are not even top 10, not even top 20, not even top 30, not even top 40 but only ranked top 45 (Reliance Industries)? Meanwhile, another similar country in terms of population, China, has 3 of their companies in the top 10 ranking of "Forbes Global 2000 companies" and has 346 companies instead of only 55 companies in that same ranking list? What about India's ranking in "Fortune 500 companies"? India has not even 10 companies in that list and China has 143 companies out of the list of 500 (hence is is called Fortune 500).
Couldn't agree more. From working with Indians, it's frustrating because they can't think straight firstly, second this applies to every aspect of life.
As a Chinese, I am well aware of how hard and long the road of development is. At present, we have been on a parge with Western countries, but this is not enough. We have to surpass them, step on their backs, and repay them for what they have done to us in the past. We will not wait for you Indians, but we sincerely hope that you will catch up one day and leave Indian footprints on the backs of those Western countries. Then, we spent a long time writing unique stories between China and India.
Considering the way western media talks about India, we've already assumed they view us as a threat as well. Their Russia India trade articles are mental!
@@parker4406 How does western media "talk" about India? I'm from north america, and everything I see about India has traditionally been very positive and in terms of business, they're basically saying that India's rise is all but inevitable at this point, like a China 2.0. The only "negative" i've seen about India has been relatively recently associated with some sort of internal political issues in Indi itself, but I haven't really heard anything new about that in like 5 years. The only other "negative" thing I've seen about india has been with conflicts/wars in its north with pakistan and china or even separatists... but I wouldn't really call those "negative".
I am a Chinese born in 1991. When I was in elementary school (probably from 1997 to 2003), most of the people around me and I were very poor. I didn’t even have money to pay for my school fees, clothes, shoes, and school bags. It's also in tatters. As for my child, she now has a life that I could not imagine before. I have experienced the most rapid era of discovery in China. However, we are only a developing country and there are still many problems. We need to continue to work hard, study hard, work hard, and improve our lives. I believe we will all get better and better.
Why don't you guys fight for your rights against your government? Like, you're on TH-cam, which is quite illegal to do so in China... so why don't you fight them for something that so many Chinese are already actively civilly disobeying to access in the rest of the world/West?
This senseless comparison by the media & pitting China & India continuously is causing divisions, distrust & other problems. Both countries have their strengths & weaknesses; both can via trade & cultural exchanges benefit each other & the planet earth. Where there is a will there is a way.
Absolutely agreed !! I believe these kinds of narratives are sown on purpose - the principle of ‘divide and conquer’ was successfully applied by western colonial powers for centuries, and is still in use to this day. Just imagine if India and China were to form the close partnership such as that has recently formed between Russia and China. Now THAT would be an unstoppable power the likes of which this world has never seen before ! I happen to be Chinese (born and living in South Africa), and I am happy irrespective of if China or India progresses - remember that each country has massive populations of 1.4 billion people. If they BOTH progress, that means that 2.8 billion people on this planet have a better chance at feeding their families, clothing and educating themselves, and living a better life. If that’s not a win for humanity, I don’t know what is.
It's part of the Western propaganda and method of divide and conquer. The Indians are at fault also by always comparing themselves with China. It's an unhealthy obsession as they can never achieve what China has.
The main reason has fallen so far behind China in almost every sphere of development is due to the simple fact that the Chinese are smarter, more pragmatic and has greater business acumen than the Indians
Objectively speaking, India has developed fairly well especially for a country of that size, and compared to other developing countries economies. They have a respectable presences in the tech and space sectors. However their society, and as a consequence their system is poorly organized. Coupled with a lack of initiative and too much political grandstanding it makes it hard to compete against China.
China took a ride on the massive globalization bandwagon, India missed it. Now, India is trying to do what China did in a deglobalization environment. Dear India, do not even try. Instead, figure out some way better fits you
@@alexzeng India missed the boat because of it's false anti-colonial narrative. It took them a lot of time to come out of economic suspicion of the West and the rest of the World. By the time they jumped into the globalisation process in full force, it is too late.
India 's system of governance is facism, never democracy. You simply don't send "buttonmen" to target non voters and polical opponents. 1) did a 8 x Bollywood MI6 in Qatar? 2) did a "Hardeep Singh Nijjar" in Canada? 3) did a "Nikhil Gupta" in USA? 4) did a "Constable Chetan Singh" to the non voters in India? Constable Chetan Singh: If you want to live and vote in |ndia, I am telling you it's only Modi or Yogi......or ELSE how many more "buttonmen" has he got to "fix" his political opponents and non voters? These facts should tell you whether the Indian voting process is fair.
Progress is not just population and GDP numbers. It's how the real population, the common folks, benefit from such growth. India is still inundated by the poor all over the country. Only the rich and some middle class benefit from india's growth. You find beggars all over the place in india, creaking trains, buses and public transport, inefficient health systems, yawning gaps between social classes and many other ills.
We can say exactly the same about China and about US. Europe has social democracy and try to level the ground; even there the number of homeless in UK streets will surprise you.
I mean the Gini coefficients which calculates the 'inquality' or wealth gap of the nation proves that India has drastically decreased its economic inequality going by the latest data.
Oh purleez...Why compare India with China? India is not in the same league as China in. Best comparision for India is likely with Indonesia or Nigeria.
True, the comparison was simply by sheer size of the population and nothing else. China’s approach is driven by Confucius. India is driven by which direction the wind blows.
There is nothing wrong in getting compared with Nigeria. For your kind information India has 29 states, In that only 2 states are poor ie up and Bihar. And up population itself is equal to Bihar. Fortunately we don't have one child policy. Even without one child policy entire South is becoming rich and we have lesser population. growth. Only these 2 states are dragging down our indices. We can't kill people like you to show ourselves richer
Charlie munger already answered this question in 2 minutes . “ India didn’t prosper because it took the worst parts of western democracies” . This talk is a waste of time compared to mungers.
I think the ultimate reason why India will not be a competing power in the future is its foundation is very lose. The west colonized India before so they know how easily it can be divided again. India have so many different ethnic, religious, Caste and racial differences its impossible to form a real unified country. It can be easily dismantled. Ofcourse now its useful, but later on when it makes and meaningful advancements it will be dismantled for sure. The best strategy for India is to not take sides.
Does the US have these fault lines ? Do ethnic fault lines exist exist in UK at the height of the World Wars ? Did Ireland explode in 1916 ? yes , it did .... so that by itself cannot prevent India any more than it has stopped UK or the US. India does not take sides to protect its autonomy, but then again we are in the Quad; we have multiple agreements with US in every sphere of human activity. We have only hostility with China at this point !!
Bangladesh surpassed India several years ago in per capita gdp. However, the gap is not that big yet. India should look up to Bangladesh and try to outperform them first. You have to walk a thousand miles step by step. India certainly has great potentials. The question should be if India can be the next US, as the real largest democracy.
Actually the lastest data of UN has uncovered that India has surpassed Bangladesh in terms of GDP per capita. India has 2.73K USD while Bangladesh has 2.63K USD. Your analysis relies on outdated data. Don't use chinese sites. They're known to be unreliable.
@@somakchatterjee6429your example doesn't work. If Greece was behind China and now leaped over, then maybe. Matter of fact, China has been studying Singapore a lot in the past. They literally gave Singapore a land to create a mini Singapore to try it out. Bangladesh was behind India and they were looked down by Indian before. Also the culture and geography are comparable between India and Bangladesh.
Let's be honest. India has no development strategy of their own. Their only strategy is to copy China's strategy. 1) When China's Alipay was launched in year 2004, India copies, and India's UPI was only launched in year 2016. 2) "India's second-largest e-bus maker finds itself entangled in fame allegations (MINT)" --Apparently, "made in India" uses Chinese components and claimed to be made in India. Truly made in India.🤭 3) High speed rail/bridges/EVs and infrastructures etc. 4) China started their nuclear/space programs earlier than India. 5) China invested in Africa far earlier than India. The only reason India invested in Africa is to "counter" China. Why? China invested in Africa when they're poor, India don't. 6) Many more. That is why they are always the laggard of China. Laggard
Definitely, the current economic instability is causing a lot of concern. With factors like trade tensions and fluctuating markets, it's hard to predict what's coming next.
And the pandemic has only exacerbated things. It's led to disruptions in supply chains and forced many businesses to shut down temporarily or even permanently.
According to statistics from the WHO and UNICEF.. "India is the No. 1 country in the world for open defecation, with over 344 million people without regular access to toilets in the country."
You got the numbers wrong. Use these research materials instead. One from an Indian source and the other one from global institution, UNICEF. *Indian source:* Times of India *Title of article/research/report:* Global shame: 597 million Indians still defecate in the open. *What article said specifically:* India continues to be the country with the highest number of people (597 million) defecating in the open *Title of article/research/report:* Progress on Drinking Water and Sanitation 2014 update *Global Source:* UNICEF *What article said specifically:* India continues to be the country with the highest number of people (597 million people) practising open defecation (Fig. 17).
@@suvrajyotigupta2368lmao stop lying. It does exist in India. We live in the internet era. A medical student belonging to a lower caste was bullied and so she deleted herself in india.
@@suvrajyotigupta2368 Indians say that there are no caste system in India? But what are "caste related violence" and why is it still happening? What are the Musahar people and what are their dietary? Has democracy ever had a caste system? No, but only India's version of democracy. Learn some honesty.
China can look Western powers in the eye, point directly at them and say you're wrong. I will do better. India looks at Western powers nervously with downcast eyes and says.. I hope I'm not wrong (gulp). I will do better to win your approval then you will let us join your group. Yes?
Indians are demographically and culturally closer to westerners , so we do not see them as enemies. The PMs of UK, Portugal, Ireland, many Premiers in Canada , Guyna are all of Indian origin so are dozens of politicians all over Anglo sphere . You people are a racist xenophobic group who have problems with even near neighbours like Japan, Philipines, Malaysia etc.
It’s funny. Since China copies everything western. Even their names are western. China is no ancient China anymore. They copied west in all aspects while India still takes pride in its ancient culture. Communism that China flaunts also originated in west.
The difference between Indians and Chinese is that India always likes to compare with China, while China never thinks of comparing with India. The biggest difference between India and China↓ Indians: We will become the next superpower before 2030. Chinese: We are still a developing country.
In history, China has repeatedly recognized and sincerely worshiped India as its teacher. You can cite Buddhism, architecture, literature, etc. as examples. Throughout its five thousand years of history, China has never lacked its own originality, but the Chinese have always been willing to learn from other civilizations and wisdom they came into contact with. Somehow the social mentality in India is different. India prefers to act like a student to a certain group of people and like a master or teacher to others. The fundamental reason for this phenomenon is that the Chinese believe that everyone is equal, and there are always opportunities for people to learn from each other, help each other, and repay each other. Indians, on the other hand, until recently still believed that people should be divided into classes according to the nobility score they were born with.
if everyone is equal, why are minorizin china given special treatment? The interactions with chinese people always end up with them complaining about it.
As a Chinese, I don't see any period of time that China worshiped india as teacher. You might also argue that european believed in the Hebrew God than they must worshiped Israel, which I disagree.
India is not a country but really a group of colonies which were kingdoms and independent states before the British colonised all these states and kingdoms.
A better India is a break up India, because politicians in India has never ever run a massive united state historically. All the governments of some sort were focus on their little benefits and priviliages, never see the wholistic picture. It continues in Indian politics today, and no one wishes to sacrafice for greater good because they see everyone differently in terms of religions, castes and tribes.
China considers Canto and Mandarin as same? Maybe tell that to HKers who think mainlanders can't adjust well to their language. Hmong and Hokkienese are way too different. We don't even have to talk about tibetan and uyghur languages.
If India allow, her smart people will create a universal language for them to use from North to South, East to West with ease, but that's really an unpopular to the older idea-ers politicians, any way let wait and see.
@@parker4406 Doesn't happen as much in China due to the punishment meted out which includes execution. Vietnam had a recent case where a woman was sentenced to death for stealing billions from the state. Corruption in India is as bad as it gets. The West are masters at corruption.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes. West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜 Now let us discuss successes of India 1. SURVIVAL India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour. West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan. 2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing. But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it. I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc. India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
@bobsmith3983 Says someone who hasn't even heard about India? By the way all of your statements are completely wrong. 97% of the science achievements and development in America was because of white Europeans and Jewish Americans. Less than 2% is due to Chinese.
Moody's credit rating: China: A1 whereas India: Baa3 Standard & Poor's credit rating: China: A+ whereas India: BBB- Fitch Ratings credit rating: China: A+ whereas India: BBB- *BBB- or Baa3 status = lowest grade rating for investment, just 1 or 2 levels above junk status.* 😆😅🤣😂 People need to read up these embarrassing news headlines: 1) Moody’s retains India’s BAA3 rating despite government’s pitch for upgrade (India Today) 2) S&P Global Ratings on July 13 affirmed India’s sovereign rating at the lowest investment grade of ‘BBB-’ for the 14th year in a row (TheHindu) 3) Fitch retains India's rating at 'BBB-' as growth potential fights high deficit concerns (The Economic Times)
Meanwhile, Modi lied to his people, saying Endian economy will reach $48 trillions in 2048. All the Endian oligarchs were in euphoria. They needn't to smoke drugs, just Modi's lies.
China understands the world so it has a global and larger world vision. Its policies complement to be in balance and harmony with the world. China intends to help the world and the world wants to grow with China. This is a Buddhist, Confucius, and Asian philosophy. 😊❤👍🙏
Yeap...but India has Yoqi, they are very flexible human being and they are real, while Indian never believe Chinese Shawlism Monks Kungfu can fly forward and fly backward, lol..
Buddhist philosophy? Don’t make me laugh now. Modern China knows nothing about Buddhism. They are hardcore communists who will destroy everything in their path. Chinese leaders killed millions of Chinese people during Great Leap Forward.
@@parker4406 Jaishankar claimed that "Buddha was born in |ndia and he was an |ndian" and ended up apologizing when Nepalese media said he lied. 🤭 ▶"India dismisses controversy over Jaishankar's remarks on Buddha (Times of India)"◀ ➡Buddha and Buddhism originated from Nepal, never from |ndia. Source: Lumbini, the Birthplace of the Lord Buddha (UNESCO World Heritage Convention).🔚 Have fun debating against a global heritage platform. 🤭
Many reasons why not. 1. Corruption 2. Education - higher percentage of population in China are educated and more STEMS; more womennbare educated in China 3. Women in China are liberated, educated, employed close to 80% vs 20+% in in India 4. manufacturing and industrial capability - 5. Infrastructure - roads, port, rails, information and computer network 6. Skilled and hardworking workforce.
1. Woman in China are liberated... really, why is it that you have a worse sex ratio than India ? 2. Corruption not a problem in China ? Really ? 3. Chinese infrastructure is superior but India is fast catching up. Also you build infra without concern for viability, look at your real estate sector, 8 of the 11 HSR lines in China are in the red, with a debt of about Trillion dollars. 4. The skill content of the Indian workforce varies .
@@suvrajyotigupta2368 india will not catching up. china building infrastructure is super super fast more than everyone else every year since 2000. india build fast on mere few years and already say catching up. China uses as much cement in two years as the US did over the entire 20th century.
I don’t agree with the idea that a country should have 80% of its women in the workforce, this will bring down birthrate below replacement, I mean look at South Korea, they’re literally on the brink of extinction, what good is all that development if your people won’t be around in the near future
Indian are smart when it come to telemarketing scams…😂😂 “Hello, my name is John Wayne. I would like to talk to you about your car warranty”…..talked with accent so thick they called it Curry!! 😂😂😂
I have received a call before from someone speaking in English saying he is calling from the US and his name is Henry. But his English accent is sooo obvious the curry accent.
@@catonpillow but i heard that they will abandon the china model, of manufacturing but start from financial service and semiconductors so the infrastructure is not important and will not be stuck by the US sanctions later on like china . that sound like very smart
Historical economical facts of India and China: A tale of arrogance and talking versus humility and actions. 1) India joined WTO earlier than China. 1995 vs 2001. India had a head start advantage. 2) India gained independence in 1947, 2 years earlier than China (civil war). India had a head start advantage. 3) India's GDP was higher than China only because of the "British India" 's leadership. 4) After the British left India in 1947, India could only compete against China fair and square based on their true capabilities. Please note that India's GDP is much higher than China when both received their independence. It is the Indian leadership versus the Chinese leadership from this point onwards. 5) The GDP gap between China and India narrows down and China caught up with India during the 1980s. 6) 1980s is a very crucial period because it is the only period in history whereby both countries started at the same starting point of the GDP race after independence. 7) Fast forward today, China's GDP became 5+ times more than |ndia today. This is the difference between the Chinese GDP miracle versus the Indian GDP miracle. 8) Despite all these facts, India's leaders claimed to be the "World Fastest Growing Economy" and a superpower. 9) China's leaders claimed to be a developing country and has never claimed to be a superpower.
I heard from Indian economists themselves, the economic growth numbers are bunk or severely inflated and most of the growth is in agriculture and services and not manufacturing. It's the Americans and the West talking propaganda to make the Indians feel good and encourage hostility against China. Also the current border dispute with China started when the Modi government committed cartographic aggression with a map of Ladakh and the Chinese said "I don't think so" and moved soldiers to consolidate what had been a buffer zone.
@@kenw.4539 How many times has India changed their methodology of calculating GDP? Did Harvard University, one of the best Universities of the world, said that India overstated their GDP by changing the methodology of calculating their GDP? 🤭🤣😂 If their GDP is really that great, why is that Indian "economic refugees" are going around worldwide begging for jobs and citizenships?
@@kenw.4539 Did Harvard University, one of the best Universities of the world, said that India overstated their GDP by changing the methodology of calculating their GDP? 🤭🤣😂
Most would agree that the China’s success in past 40 years is indispensable from its political/social system, which still performs good so far. While India is totally different in this regard.
but India is logging in 3% more growth than China despite not being a communist country? I thought India as a democracy will slow down more than China?
@@parker4406 Replay 0:31 to 0:36 until you have fully understood what it means. India ain't qualified to talk down to China or lecture China or talk big to China when it comes to GDP or economy.🥱 Reality hurts.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes. West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜 Now let us discuss successes of India 1. SURVIVAL India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour. West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan. 2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing. But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it. I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc. India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
China plus 1 requires China. It just means Chinese companies manufacture in 3rd nation, but this means US consumers just pays more to say not made in China.
Yes the American are fooling themselves into paying more for the same products which is subsidizing the middleman nations. The USA government is so foolish in believing that they are hurting China with the sanctions and tariffs.
Even two brothers from same mother are not same how can two civilizations can be same? India will Chart it's own path to greatness, I simply can't understand this obsession to compare india and china, except population what is same between them.
It's India that's comparing itself with China. The Chinese don't care enough to do a comparison. India is not on Chinese minds. India needs to grow up and do what's good for India and not compare itself with anyone.
@@bobsmith3983 India never compares itself with an autocracy. PM Modi in FT interview made clear if you want to compare india do this with fellow democracies not an autocracy.
But India is under infamous authoritarian. It was a shocker! Despite electoral bond cheating, locking up dissidents and chief ministers, freezing finances of opposition, BJP partisan controlled of Police, judicial and electoral commission, and direct payment to 800,000,000 for food support by Modi, The opposition did well. Incredibly well!
Very good observation. I hear it's the ruling Brahmin caste that's doing this? Most Indians, I imagine are just trying to survive and do well for their family. Probably barely thinks of China except when the goods they buy says "Made in China."
India has to beat Vietnam in competitiveness first. Yes Vietnam is small compare to India, but the people are smart and hard working and willing to sacrifice for their national development. India is ruled by small group of local people who control their local politicians and nothing will get them to work together.
|ndia is exporting their unemployment problems and their unemployed "economic refugees" in millions to every part of the world, thereby, creating unemployment problems for the native people in host countries. As a result, many of the locals/natives became jobless and/or homeless. For example, nearly 97000 Indians detained trying to enter US illegally in last one year (Business Standard). This only for 1 year and through the not legal means.
@@mudra5114 South Korea developed during the military government period, Japan actually developed during the Nazi dictatorship before World War II, and the United States only managed to survive World War II and World War I after the world was reduced to rubble. The efficiency of democracy is too low and is not suitable for post-developing countries to catch up with developed countries.
@@cheng-s8r Japan was never Nazi or National Socialist, and Japan redeveloped after WW2. The USA developed as a democracy, so did Germany after WW2. Singapore developed as a democracy too.
That's why China eventually caught up to Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, and South Korea. It took awhile because China is big but they eventually did it. Caste system is just awful for India and completely useless for economic development. So is misogyny and anti-Muslim policies that Modi is famous for.
There is a large number of India's population still in poverty and the literacy & mortality rate is lower than China. The infrastructure is way behind China by at least 5 years.These are the basic characteristics to progress.
How does Indian come up with this number, like 5 years or 25 years? Indian infrastructure was built by their colonial master and it still exists till today. For example, their rail road infrastructure was built by their master the British. And it was built hundreds of years ago. India is centuries behind China.
@@yourenodaisy2391do you have any data to suggest most of our infra is from colonial times? I thought Confucian principles forbid one from talking nonsense. Guess I was wrong.
There are many Indian bots saying that India is the richest country before the British came and is richer than China. Let me debunk their scams with facts and logical reasoning. Before USD became the reserved currency of the world and hence GDP calculation, gold is the reserved currency of the world. How much gold reserve each country has is obviously kept secret for strategic purposes. How do you determine the GDP of countries before USD became the reserved currency and how do you determine the GDP of countries back then? No way. Only Indians claimed that they have larger GDP even larger than china for centuries before British c0l0nisation. If India is so rich and powerful, why is it that India was fully colonized but not China? Common sense. 🤭🤥
@@NagomRM Not really. YT Video: ▶"Abhijit Chavda: China's Century of Humiliation; India's MILLENNIUM Of Humiliation".◀ If China has 1 century of humiliation, |ndia has 10 century of humiliation. 🤭
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes. West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜 Now let us discuss successes of India 1. SURVIVAL India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour. West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan. 2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing. But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it. I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc. India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
I have read that India is a very unwelcoming country for foreign business including spurious taxes, changing rules and regulations and strong labour unions. It is said that you can invest and grow in India but you can never take any profits out. The license raj lives on.
I hear the government can play games with your finances and taxes and there's always the danger of confiscation. Also bribery is normalized and rampant to get anything done. If you don't pay enough, you can get your electricity turned off in the middle of the day while you are manufacturing. The business atmosphere is definitely primitive. Many companies have tried, gave up, and left.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes. West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜 Now let us discuss successes of India 1. SURVIVAL India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour. West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan. 2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing. But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it. I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc. India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
The main factor is women's participation in the labour market hence productivity and GDP, India is around 20 percent, China is around 70 percent. To achieve theoretical parity of productivity per capita, India needs to have 1.3 to 1.4X the population of China's, assuming the men and women population ratio is 50/50.
The pop size itself doesn't suffice. More people doesn't mean more demands because most of social wealth of India now owned by the top 1%. Its impossible to tax the rich under the current Indian political system.
For India a greater population means a greater amount of poor and hungry people. Ideally India should reduce it population or at least control it like China did.
Unfortunately for the rest of the developing countries, the last opportunity to industrialize was from 1995-2015 and China seized it. The world has rapidly evolved with automated manufacturing and instituting AI in everything so cheap labor is no longer necessary. Also, globalization is dwindling and blocs are emerging so the wealthy countries will fight to stay wealthy and the poorer ones will remain as is.
Not much industrialization left to push to India. Even if China somehow disappears overnight and you try to move the Chinese supply chains and technology to India, given the current state of affairs in India, is it even possible? So many companies have tried the "final assembly" model in India and have given up even with that simple task. Many Indians say it won't work with the current culture and weak rule of law in India.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes. West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜 Now let us discuss successes of India 1. SURVIVAL India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour. West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan. 2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing. But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it. I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc. India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes. West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜 Now let us discuss successes of India 1. SURVIVAL India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour. West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan. 2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing. But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it. I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc. India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
IMF insists on neo-colonial policies designed to keep the country poor. Look what happened to Russia when they listened to the IMF under Yeltsin. They sold their state owned industries for nothing creating the disastrous oligarchs.
China is more practical and intelligent because they pursued a manufacturing based industry when they are poor and technologically low during the 1940s after independence. India on the other hand pursues a service based industry during the 1940s when they are technologically low and poor as well after independence. IQ matters. Now, India is focusing on manufacturing and trying to copy China's success but it is too late. China has move on to from low tech manufacturing to high tech manufacuring such as solar panels, EV vehicles and EV batteries, aviation, consumer drones etc. and so on. With higher tech, manufacturing based industry is now automated/AI rather than labour intensive.
No factory can operate over the long term in any country in a vacuum of proven essential supporting heavy infrastructures such as low cost power, water, transport logistics , human resources with strong human capital, strongly innovative R&D resources, favourable tax system, favourable govt support and most importantly a favourable large scale domestic market for the products! As such , India fails very pathetically to qualify in any of these pre-conditional categories!
Also according to the Indians themselves, under Modi, bribery is now normalised and worse than ever. Before Modi, it was still viewed as not a good thing but expected. Now EVERY public official expects a a large bribe openly. Any time they're not happy, they can demand bigger bribes or your electricity during peak manufacturing hours can mysteriously disappear. This is just one example. Also because they haven't invested much in education, there is not much of a work ethic. Rule of law is very weak. Lots of stories of women going to the police station to report a rape and get gang raped by the police themselves. Imagine if you piss off the cops in the region where your business/factory is located. Lots of problems they need to overcome.
Honestly , we Indians know our deficiencies. If a company want to start a branch in India, we have to go praise India and make it to come to our country. It is marketing not boasting. But internally when we are talking with each other we self criticize India like hell. Even china does the same to attract FDI. You cannot talk to Apple CEO about poor India when he starts a company. Here all the people are comparing apples with oranges saying India is all talk. If really India has no potential why do u care and what's the necessity of this podacst and ur comments.
@@suvrajyotigupta2368 What you have said only applies to the Indian. Here's some facts for you. *Indian source:* Times of India *Title of article/research/report:* Global shame: 597 million Indians still defecate in the open. *What article said specifically:* India continues to be the country with the highest number of people (597 million) defecating in the open *Title of article/research/report:* Progress on Drinking Water and Sanitation 2014 update *Global Source:* UNICEF *What article said specifically:* India continues to be the country with the highest number of people (597 million people) practising open defecation (Fig. 17).
The biggest problem of China is political system, China don't has caste system, gender equality is much better than India, and religious conflict only exsit in some remote provinces which aren't account for big portion of entire economy.
I believe you want to say that the biggest problem for India is the caste system. China believes everyone should be treated equal. Is the caste system that created the division among the people in India.
@@Sidekick618 I ever thought Indian caste system have been neglected by their society, when I found currently average 2 dalits will be killed per day, that's horrible.
@@smithjerry470 Very sad, China will not do that unless a person committed a serious crime. This is the big difference. Where China is pro-Life, is the reason the government acts in the interest of the people. Over 95% of the population is happy with their government.
@@smithjerry470 there is still a massive rape problem and anti-woman, anti-Muslim divisions that will keep the country from developing next to the massive poverty.
@@bobsmith3983 Yep, and so does the famous Indian economist, also named Modi though he isn't as blunt as Bhandari, he just says the failed policies and failed leadership has plagued India since independence.
India can NOT replace China for two key reasons; Firstly short of 4th generation industry including 5G, green energy technology, AI, IoT structure…etc, secondly remain closed to the rest of regional and global economy.
@@parker4406 Not entering TA with your neighboring country group ASEAN and your biggest also the world biggest trading nation China is not a viable and prosperous strategy at all.
Because India is democracy! That’s the main problem. India is big and not aggressive to defeat enemies like west interference in India internal matters. Not destroying Pakistan 🇵🇰 China is ruthless! China stands up for their strength
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes. West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜 Now let us discuss successes of India 1. SURVIVAL India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour. West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan. 2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing. But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it. I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc. India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
We may not like this but the next China is China, a China not making T-shirts, toys, sandals, but EVs, chips, container ships, cruise ships, LNG ships, commercial planes, electronic devices... China is unique as much as India or the US is unique.
India still has very High Fertility rates in central parts which result in huge unemployment rates and that pushes wages down for everyone so despite large number of new companies, the youth ,middle age spending remains low. China controlled fertility in 1979 and invested heavily in infrastructure and skill development . It is reaping the benefits of all those policies now. China is 3 times larger in land area and has lot of mineral resources as well.
If India isn't careful, their population growth will erase any per capita GDP gains over the past decades. Earning the "most populous country" designation on Earth title didn't do India any favors.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes. West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜 Now let us discuss successes of India 1. SURVIVAL India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour. West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan. 2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing. But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it. I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc. India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
Modi’s narrow victory highlights the “peoples” dissatisfaction with his policies and belief that he has deserted them. There was no improvement in the quality of life for the average Indian family under his leadership. Racism, crime and violence, and societal strife continues. Government corruption continues unabated. Lawfare is rampant. We all know in practice India is not a democracy. India’s governance model is “technically” incapable of meeting the needs of its economy and people and lacks skilled technocrats at almost every level to professionally address its needs. It will take decades to bring its infrastructure and supply chains anywhere near that of China’s. China is already leading the 4th Industrial Revolution and this lead is “increasing at the speed of ‘China’ light”. Its educational system is decrepit, requiring decades to rework along with creating a paradigm shift in the peoples attitudes toward higher education. India is a country who takes from the world and gives nothing back treating outsiders with distain and contempt. Its increasing support for Western militarization to contain China is making other countries in the region nervous, uncomfortable with a growing mistrust of India and its intent as a BRICS+ member. There is growing sentiment that it might be best for India to leave BRICS+. India has claimed it wants to take a leadership role in the Global Majority (South), but is not trusted and continues its “sick” manipulative relationship with the U.S. like an abusive marriage. Who can respect such a country?
Even it's ally Russia told the Indians it will no longer accept rupees to pay for Russian oil as there is nothing to buy from India with the rupees. The Russians told the Indians to either pay in renminbi (probaby pissed them off to no end) or to pay in gold.
China's already working on China 2. New quality productive forces will change the world. I'd keep an eye on Chinese biomed and pharmaceuticals especially, although the clean tech is certainly making a splash rn.
China already took off decades ago and they are trying to fly higher and faster than ever before. India is still stuck in the hangar because of poor government policies and leadership.
Such a short but very good discussion and so bang on points. Thank you. Rather than endless 45-60 minutes conversation this was crisp. Well done Alicia with your points. 1) India or No country can replicate China as world has moved on from USA/West led consumption model of globalisation. Ship has sailed. 2) India shd focus on manufacturing and local supply leadership. But here sphere of China supply dominance will exist. 3) Reforms for job creation must. And be done quickly. 4) South Asia vs EU FTA.
Before British, there are not a union country called India with single language. India has Caste system, Lord-Slavery system, Briefcase system, India is union not more than 100years (1946-2024). China is 4000years written civilization, and a united empire for 2200years since Qin Dynasty with single written language and single soft-cultures.
Before the Mongols united what is presently the landmass of China through force there were only the warring states and multiple dynasties. They came they killed, they raped and vola you have Xi Jinpeng who considers himself a successor of the Khan.
@@realnapster1522 How "old" a culture or civilization are can only be traced back to when their language was first written. Spoken language cannot be proven older than their earliest physical written evidence. Top 7 Oldest language of the world 1) Egyptian (c. 3300 BCE - 17th Century) 2) Sumerian (c. 3100 BCE - 100 AD) 3) Akkadian (c. 2500 BCE - 100 AD) 4) Elamite (c. 2800 BCE - 300 BCE) 5) Hittite (16th Century BCE - 13th Century BCE) 6) Mycenaean Greek (16th Century BCE - 12th Century BCE) 7) Archaic Chinese (c. 1600 BCE - c. 221 BCE) |ndia wants to claim to have the world "oldest" university? India did not have any writings until the Edicts of Ashoka of the 3rd century BCE, in the Brahmi script, were invented.🤭
@@LandGrabbingIndia Sanskrit is oldest language. You can check. There are many sounds in mandarin which are copied from Sanskrit language. Many Chinese words have root in Sanskrit. English and other European languages also has many roots which were copied from Sanskrit. It’s called mother of all languages. China also borrowed Buddhism and ancient Vedic philosophy, knowledge of martial arts from ancient India.
As a Thai-Chinese who received Buddhist culture from India, I feel good about both China and India. I am confident that both China and India will be able to stand at the top of the world. Although China has achieved success first, India will also reach that point within the next few decades. A good friendship between China and India will benefit ASEAN, Asia, and our world. The people of China and India do not have to bluff each other. Development must be continuous
The 79.8% Hindu majority country, India, is never democracy. Real democracy never had a Hindu Caste System that oppresses the lower caste. Indians say that there are no caste system in India? But what are "caste related violence" and why is it still happening? What are the Musahar people and what are their dietary? Explain what are Caste Certificates and why everyone in India has to get one?
One reason india is a democracy which was continously susceptible to foreign funding NGOs even by china also..recent example bullet train..road development in Himalayas etc..china's direction are absolute no where in country u can challenge that but in india every govt. Development met with opposition PILs in courts..but despite all it flaws it's moving...U can say that India is like a giant elephant it moves slowly..but when it moves everyone feels it's impact..INDIA will be a Great BHARAT again..
Lots of caste problems and anti-Muslim hatred in India also keeps lots of people out of the productive work force. The CCP forced equality on everyone in China.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes. West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜 Now let us discuss successes of India 1. SURVIVAL India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour. West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan. 2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing. But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it. I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc. India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
China continued to lead the way with 1.58 million filings, up 3.1% from 2021, according to a yearly report released by the World Intellectual Property Organization on Monday. The U.S. ranked second with 505,000, up 1.1%. India's figure jumped 31.6% to 55,000, moving the country from ninth to seventh . Mates, it's not about lowering tariffs.
0:31 to 0:36 and from 3:10 ➡ I will save you 26 minutes of your life (length of video was 25 minutes and 33 seconds) on the reason why India is not the next China. You're welcome. Chinese lQ=104+, Indians lQ=76 🤭😅😏😭
Very frank and informative episode, you mentioned India's internal challenges over education, domestic saving, lowering tariff, manufacturing sector, joining RCEP to be in its supply chain. Alicia had one valuable reminder to India: globalization is over, India has to find its new model to grow.
I can answer something about your explanation. Not Joining RCEP- Because India has FTA with almost all RCEP countries except China. Domestic Saving- Since last 5 years Indians investing in retail and equities are increased exponentially. For example. Start-up in 2016- 5000 but now in 2024- 120000 with 150 unicorns already. Manufacturing is now growing at 11% per annum. Education reforms must be there specifically in History. But I can surely say that India will not be next China but India will be India.
@@bobsmith3983 😂😂 I don't read just headlines like you. I read actual data of consumption, investment, trade, subsidy, etc. People like you just read headlines and believe that they are so knowledgeable. You are just kid.
@@Pratikdd Lots of copium comments but please keep replaying 0:31 to 0:36. ➡Year 1998 ⬅ |ndia's GDP = 421.35 billion China's GDP = 1.03 trillion China's economy is 2 times plus of |ndia. ➡Year 2022⬅ |ndia's GDP = 3.42 trillion China's GDP = 17.96 trillion China's economy is 5 times plus of |ndia. The GDP gap of |ndia versus China gets wider and wider during the past 26 years, yet, the |ndians have the audacity to claim to be the "world fastest growing economy".🤭
@@Pratikdd I listen to third party economists talk (like this economist from 0:31 to 0:36) and from reputable global financial institution such as World Bank. ➡Year 1998 ⬅ |ndia's GDP = 421.35 billion China's GDP = 1.03 trillion China's economy is 2 times plus of |ndia. ➡Year 2022⬅ |ndia's GDP = 3.42 trillion China's GDP = 17.96 trillion Source: World Bank GDP (by countries) China's economy is 5 times plus of |ndia. The GDP gap of |ndia versus China gets wider and wider during the past 26 years, yet, the |ndians have the audacity to claim to be the "world fastest growing economy". People like you just read headlines and uneducated or unsubstantiated propagandas and believe that they are so knowledgeable. You are just kid.
Do the Chinese feel insecure whenever anyone talks about India developing? Any positiv video about India on TH-cam, there are loads of comments from chinese and pakistanis despising India. If the Chinese think they are so successful that India cannot catch up with them, why do they even bother to comment on websites about India?
i thinks its indians who are insecure. chinese dont even need to talk about being a superpower by x year, they just do it. you india talk a lot in the comments section yet get sensitive like a feminine man when someone says anything about you guys. maybe try to improve your country, starting with hygiene. and i mean that in a serious helpful way not in an offensive way.
India is negotiating a string of free trade agreements. So it's a little wrong to assume that import tariffs will remain as is. They have had massive direct foreign investment for IT, data centres,...and digital and food startups are growing at a crazy scale. Also Indians can think/are allowed to think for themselves freely - something rather limited in China. India can have China's momentum, there's no need to be the next China. Also they have large (very succesful) immigrant communities everywhere. That's already flowing back to India. Whereas it tends to flow out of China for all government nonsensical reasons. Chinese are ageing. Indians are young.
the only comparisons people are making between India and China is currently population size!? Double edged sword right there! And we all see it! We will find out in a couple of years! whether India CAN sustain heck or manage to take dinner off of Chinas plates! India might take dinner off the Wests plates.... India isnt making the West's goods, and more importantly India isnt making the West's goods at a high enough quality.... India hasnt built up the knowledge base through 70 yrs of hard graft!! China is an Outlier! India has its own path, has its own choices to make..... it hasnt dealt with the Western BS like China has through the years! Can India find its true own voice and identity! IF India CAN replace China as the worlds factory then for sure theyre 50% there! the rest is foresight, planning and governance! BUT I dont see it! China is changing the world for India! India should thank China LOL!
Not just population size, as both had similar GDP from the 1950s to the 1970s. China simply developed faster, due to a better educated population with higher willingness to work with others.
India is getting poorer every day with every birth without any meaningful economic growth to match. Economic growth in agriculture and services don't count or amount to much in the big picture.
@@kenw.4539 Ah, but India's GDP increases with every birth. It costs money to feed, clothe and house people, and all of that counts as GDP increase. Inflation makes India's population-driven GDP go even higher. I'm very curious to see whether Indian farm output keeps up with population growth, or whether Indian hunger gets even worse (currently 111 out of 125 in the latest global Hunger assessment)
The history Bollywood won’t tell you:1. Around 1500 BC, the Aryans entered colonial India from the Khyber Pass and created the caste system; 2. At the end of the 6th century BC, the Persians defeated the Aryans and began to colonize India; 3. In 327 BC, the Macedonians Colonize India; 4. Beginning in the early 2nd century BC, Bactrian Greeks, Cypriots and Parthians invaded India; 5. In the 2nd century BC, the Yuezhi people who nomadically lived in the Hexi Corridor invaded India; 6. In the middle of the 1st century AD , the Kushan Xihou Tribe, one of the five Xihous of the Dayue clan, unified the five tribes and invaded India to establish the Kushan Empire; 7. In the 5th century AD, the descendants of the Central Asian Ser race and the Dayue clan of the Han Dynasty colonized India; 8 , from the 7th century AD, peoples dominated by Islamic culture began to invade India continuously; 9. In the 8th century AD, the Arab Empire occupied India; 10. In the 11th century AD, the Islamic Turks invaded India; 11. In 1526, the Mongols Colonized India and established the Mughal Empire; 12, the British...There is no India in the world, only colonies of the British Empire. India is the longest colonized region in the world, having been colonized for more than 2,800 years.Most Indians don’t even know where they are from when they look in the mirror.After the British left, they left behind beggars on the streets.
India is a service driven economy, while China is manufacturing driven. If India works together with China and Russia (supply of raw materials), they would be unbeatable trio.
What service industry has India had that is better than China or Russia? Russia by landmass is the biggest country, hence, it is logical to assume that they have the most raw materials or one of the most in the entire world. What about China? 15% of all global exports is from China alone according to United Nations data. China is a manufacturing powerhouse. What is India?
Many smart Indians know this but the anti-Chinese bias of the English speaking Brahmins with Modi is the problem. China always wanted to work with India but India under Modi showed up one day with catographic aggression over Ladakh.
Let's see how much land this thief in India has stolen from his neighbors. ---Annexed Kalapani from Nepal in 1962; ---Annexed Turtuk from Pakistan in 1971; ---Separated Eastern Pakistan from Pakistan to become Bangladesh in 1971; ---Annexed Tin Bigha from Bangladesh in 1972; ---Annexed Sikkim to become one of its states in 1975; ---Tried to invade Mauritius but failed in 1983; ---Committed massacres of Sikhism, captured their territories and attacked Harmandir Sahib so Sikhism believers assassinated Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi in 1984; ---Invaded Sri Lanka in 1987; ---1st time invaded Bhutan and failed in 1990 due to international pressure, but has controlled its defense and diplomatic affairs till now; ---Supported and financed the terrorist organization Tamil LTTE to rebel against Sri Lanka government but gave it up later under great international pressure. The betray triggered huge anger of LTTE so it assassinated its Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi in 1991; ---Annexed Dooars from Bhutan in 2006; ---Annexed Moreh from Myanmar in 2013; ---2nd time invaded Bhutan but failed in 2017 due to international pressure; ---Tried to invade Maldives in 2018; ---Invaded Nepal and one of its soldiers was shot dead by Nepal Security force in Jun of 2020; ---Keeps nibbling lands from ChinaTibett and Kashmir that led to a war in 1962 and border conflicts with China till today; ---Keeps nibbling lands from Pakistan Kashmir that led to daily border wars and gun fights; ---And more…..
Not well I must say. The sanctions against Russia has hurt the West instead of Russia. Russia is prospering immensely due to the sanctions. Russians say sanction us some more.
India has a huge population,because most of their land not from this british created country!British came and invaded this region,put them together to make this India...Free India!
Westerners trying 101 ways to explain why India is falling behind China and came up with 100 ways to defend India's position such as demographic, western liberal democracy, geopolitics sweet spot, etc. The one thing these people don't tell and cannot tell is the difference between Indian people and Chinese people. Just run a business in India and compare it with China. People is the most important resource in a country. Develop the people and the culture well, then you will have a great country.
If someone have basic knowledge of how development works easy in dictatorship but slow in democracy as well as china globalize 15-20 years earlier than india and actual development started in 2016 in india so it takes time to be developed like china but its not impossible as dont forget china also was nothing before 10-12 years
If you see how countries that have the same culture as China like japan Korea Taiwan Singapore you will notice that those countries had dictator as their leaders when they grew alot, India don't have the same culture so india will never grow like those sinopshere countries. India should focus on doing better than Bangladesh, because one big factor is the iq lever of your country and those of the sinopshere countries
Simply because of its own national and cultural peculiarities and especially its social discriminatory system, even after 2 centuries from now, India will not even reach the current level of China's deveopment.
India cannot replicate China's economic success. First of all, Indians are too proud of themselves to learn from others especially its immediate big neighbor which India considers hostile. Secondly, India is so plight with all sorts of internal problems - to name a few - lack of infrastructure, most recently on 17/6/24, two trains collided in the Indian state of West Bengal; rampant corruption amonst the various political parties for example, allegations of cheating and corruption in national entrance exams for medical colleges; racial and religious violence - the major incidences include the 1969 Gujarat riots, 1984 Sikh massacre, the 1989 Bhagalpur riots, 1989 Kashmir violence, Godhra train burning, 2002 Gujarat riots, 2013 Muzaffarnagar riots and 2020 Delhi riots. India surpasses China to be the most populous nation in 2022 but the former will face mounting challenge to cater for the huge and explosive population in the next 20 years beyond.
India’s culture and customs are not the same as China. Therefore, India can only be the next India at best.
Amen.
India had larger GDP even larger than china for centuries before British c0l0nisation.india can surpass china but didn't because of anglicist pro western indians who control india didn't allow india to progress .
Historically China had larger GDP in the world, not India. India was not united in a state, but small Agricuture bases prince counties, and selling spices.
Indian mentality is similar to than of Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. Chinese mentality is similar to Japanese and Koreans who too have been successful populations.
@@board4164 only Indian history said Indian was larger GDP than China In history, but no other countries, just like your self bragging.
Whether India will be the next China is debatable or unforeseeable, but one thing is certain.. US will be the next India in the near future..
😂😂 if you understand the US nuclear doctrine, you'd understand that even though India is an ally of sort, if there is any possibility they'll grow to compete with the US, America would rather leave it in ash than allow that to happen. Any chance of India being the next China depends on constant peace.
Canada is same
..a bit of indirect insult on US ....LOL!
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India should find its own way of development. There is no point in comparing with China.
There is no common path development wise between India and China as they are too culturally and intellectually diverse. So as you said Indians should find their own way.
Yeah not much to take from China. Their government's efficiency and people's values aren't something that can be learned easily from any other country. Best to take what India has already and go from there.
*Yes there is no point in Endia comparing itself with China. Endia should compare itself with Africa or Pakistan and Bangladesh.*
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes.
West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜
Now let us discuss successes of India
1. SURVIVAL
India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour.
West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan.
2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing.
But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia
Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it.
I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc.
India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
@@udayviruppal3730 Man India is nowhere near China. It's lacking behind many south east Asian countries.
Anywhere in the world, if there is a border dispute, it is usually the result of a line drawn by an Englishman; if it is an internal dispute, it is usually the US fueling it. Difference in implementation of divide and conquer strategy.
You're not wrong. Native americans had a similar saying about the British.
So, the Anglosaxons are the troublemakers in the world.
Instead of blaming others, perhaps both disputed parties could have resolved any border issues fairly and respectfully.
@@zollen123 the british line literally made no sense, this isn't blaming, this is fact.
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For thousands of years in China, there was a saying . If you want to be rich , first you must build the roads. Infrastructure in China is decades ahead of India.
You are being generous when you say decades. I am quite sure India is still using the rail system built by the British well
over a century ago.
@@josephtsui125 India is growing a lot of infrastructure and highways last 5-7 years. Huge difference now.
@@MaitraRoy I totally agreed with you about the recent development on the infrastructures and highways in India. The infrastructures and highways improved the movements of people. However, the real heavy weights of moving raw materials and finished products are railways, The India government, you and I all know that. The major problem lies in land acquisitions for building new rail systems and highspeed rails, The old system cannot be demolished for rebuild because it will paralyze current transport. Believe me, I can feel the pains in this struggle.
If china was so intelligent then why was china GDP was tinier india GDP for centuries before uk colonisation.india didn't progress because of anglicist indians or pro west indians who controlled india since India's independence off uk.
@@josephtsui125Why don't you come to India and work for the govt then. They will pay you good money. Share ur knowledge.
As an Indian , what i see from happening in India is that, no we are the Next China. Our politicians still play the religion card wildly. I would even say, that India today maybe more divided than British rule. From the kind of polarisation and extremist that is constantly fed into their minds is insane. The justification for it is even bizarre, religion. Indians don't have their priorities right. Education, science, infrastructure, development, healthcare isn't on cards for them, but temples, mosques, Churches are. There is no desire to go with the change, everything has to exactly as the Indian culture was like in history of the history. We don't want to even debate the core issues. The gender discrimination, religious extremism, civil rights and social security is just a disaster. I could go on and on. But the thing is these problems are not quick fixes. So i don't believe until the challenges i shed light on and even i ones i forgot to mention, if are not taken care of, it's hard to tell how we might fail as a country
China doesn't need routine elections. This allows their govt to set truly long term goals and objectives. India is a political melting pot. Modi barley scraped home recently. India can never unite long enough to overcome a multitude of intenal conflicts and set long term goals and objectives. India still has a colonised mindset. They are always looking for someone to bow down to. They need to educate, house and employ their 550 MILLION Dalits. Until that happens, they have no chance of becoming a truly united superpower ike China.
not only the dalits but also its musim and christian minorities, modi and his govt all about hate and division, you dont become a super power with large sections of your country totally marginalised and othered
Very good analysis. Colonized people cannot be productive or creative because they are demoralized and crushed. India would benefit from joining forces with China to build the BRI and resist the West Imperialist agenda, which is the primary obstruction to the development of the global south.
China has routine elections to select qualified local officials at the village level. If those locals are good, they will be promoted to manage larger areas with greater responsibility. Chinese governance is professional and meritocratic, following the bureaucratic tradition going back to 221 BC. The Chinese have had the unification concept for roughly 3,000 years, and were first unified over 2,000 years ago. India was formed externally, and doesn't have the same concepts in their culture.
If India is to compete with China, they're going to have to push education and professionalism much harder.
Poor people revolting...OneMan OneParty rule...China is collapsing...Communism can never last long...Check World History, last 300 years....!!
@@ZweiZwolf no what really defines India - is Sanatan Dharma for thousands of years. India common culture of Sanatan Dharma is what defines it - and keeps it united as you see it today.
When a foreign company is looking for building a new factory, or new office somewhere in China, the local government/bureau (depends on the size of that company) will mostly come to aid and help that company in every possible way so it can operate softly, with all kinds of infrastrutures.
When a foreign company is looking for building a new factory, or new office somewhere in India, every local bureau senses corrupted money, they will let you grow a bit for a period of time and then harvest and squeeze you in every possible way, with shortage of electric power and water supply.
And that's only a fraction of the differences.
That used to happen, but that can hardly be said to be happening now... also lets talk about Guangxi and the treatment of foreign businesses and the theft of their IP properties in China.
Aren't foreign factory offices being raided in China by the CPC?
@@suvrajyotigupta2368 Lets talk about the corruption at every level of Indian society.
That's why Endia is called the graveyeard of foreign business.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes.
West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜
Now let us discuss successes of India
1. SURVIVAL
India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour.
West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan.
2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing.
But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia
Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it.
I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc.
India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
China's success is the result of capable and competent government and hard working people. Chinese government has successfully combined capitalist and communist systems and made a system that fits China's own tradition, culture and development stage. China's step by step, region by region approach worked very well. China's flexibility and versatile economic policies are also the key factor for China's success. Chinese government is a very much people oriented government who puts the needs of its people at first priority. Every step of the economic development in China, benefits to its people always put on as first priority. That is the reason, all Chinese people have been benefited tremendously from China's development and modernization took place in the last 40 years or so. China has lifted extreme poverty in the country. This is a great contribution not only for China but for the world. China does not need assistance from UN on food products but India does. China took away the burden from UN. Unlike the West who got rich and powerful by invading, looting, genocide and destroying other countries, rising China did not do any of that.
Thanks @peterwilliams7335 for telling like it is. China utilized a good mix of strong government control with the best of capitalism in a humanistic manner. I hope India will find an "Indian" way to move forward.
This looks like something copy pasted by a bot.
@@may091985 show me where did you see it.
@@peterwilliams7335 I mean read your own post man, at least next time try to be more subtle.
India is not the next China for few basic facts : Diversity in Culture, Religion, Ethnicity, Language, Regional power house and above all Democracy. China doesn't all these obstacles to built up the nation economically and financially in just a short period of 60 years. China swallowed with great pain and sacrifices to provide the world with cheap goods but learned hard and fast to develop its own industry base. Today it has established a complete industrial supply chain no other country can rival or imitate to produce goods efficiently and effectively. Therefore besides all India internal nightmare, it will be more than impossible to establish a equal efficient supply chain to outdo China. Take for example, the iPhone assembly line in India, all its parts and components have to imported from China. Oops have you ever heard of India being the graveyard for multi nationals?
India should focus on resolving their social issues and division first otherwise they will never become an industrial powerhouse. The success of China's economy is largely due to the fact that their government successfully united the people after the chaos of the WWII.
Caste system is truly democracy and that is why every single democratic country has no Caste system except India. 😏🤭🤥🥱
Modi's democracy
1) did a 8 x Bollywood MI6 in Qatar?
2) did a "Hardeep Singh Nijjar" in Canada?
3) did a "Nikhil Gupta" in USA?
4) did a "Constable Chetan Singh" to the non voters in India?
5) how many more "buttonmen" has he got to "fix" his political opponents and non voters?
These facts should tell you whether the voting process is fair. 🤭😅🤣😂Think logically, think independently, think with an open mind and think smart.
I dispute that democracy is India's obstacle to success. In 1960, if you go around the world and talk to 100 world's top economic experts, 100 of them will say India's economy will be much more successful than China's because China practices communism...
@@LandGrabbingIndia - we can see from your name alias and avatar image where your bias lies
India talk big. China think big. India can be great if they think straight
lets hope they don`t think straight !
What a stupid narrative dude... America import brains from India besides American ceo in America the rest are Hindus...
@@soudagurpreetam4227 What a stupid narrative dude... Your Indian CEOs don't mean anything. Remember what happened to Indian CEO named "Parag Agrawal"? Why was he fired? Because he isn't the one who built the company? He is merely an employee?
@@soudagurpreetam4227 Indians like to talk extremely big about their Indian CEOs but what is their Indian CEOs on the Global Stage? In the ranking list of "Fortune 500 companies" or "Forbes Global 2000 companies", representing the World's richest/biggest companies, where does India stands? India has merely 55 companies in Forbes Global 2000 companies" and all are not even top 10, not even top 20, not even top 30, not even top 40 but only ranked top 45 (Reliance Industries)? Meanwhile, another similar country in terms of population, China, has 3 of their companies in the top 10 ranking of "Forbes Global 2000 companies" and has 346 companies instead of only 55 companies in that same ranking list? What about India's ranking in "Fortune 500 companies"? India has not even 10 companies in that list and China has 143 companies out of the list of 500 (hence is is called Fortune 500).
Couldn't agree more. From working with Indians, it's frustrating because they can't think straight firstly, second this applies to every aspect of life.
As a Chinese, I am well aware of how hard and long the road of development is. At present, we have been on a parge with Western countries, but this is not enough. We have to surpass them, step on their backs, and repay them for what they have done to us in the past. We will not wait for you Indians, but we sincerely hope that you will catch up one day and leave Indian footprints on the backs of those Western countries. Then, we spent a long time writing unique stories between China and India.
Considering the way western media talks about India, we've already assumed they view us as a threat as well. Their Russia India trade articles are mental!
Those are fantasy stories. Like old china, always called India, "Heaven" . Dirtiest heaven anywhere.
@@parker4406 How does western media "talk" about India? I'm from north america, and everything I see about India has traditionally been very positive and in terms of business, they're basically saying that India's rise is all but inevitable at this point, like a China 2.0. The only "negative" i've seen about India has been relatively recently associated with some sort of internal political issues in Indi itself, but I haven't really heard anything new about that in like 5 years. The only other "negative" thing I've seen about india has been with conflicts/wars in its north with pakistan and china or even separatists... but I wouldn't really call those "negative".
@@JohnDorian-j7x You must not read Reuters,BBC,France24, DW,NYT and Washington Post articles very often then 💀
@@parker4406 What do they say about india?
I am a Chinese born in 1991. When I was in elementary school (probably from 1997 to 2003), most of the people around me and I were very poor. I didn’t even have money to pay for my school fees, clothes, shoes, and school bags. It's also in tatters. As for my child, she now has a life that I could not imagine before. I have experienced the most rapid era of discovery in China. However, we are only a developing country and there are still many problems. We need to continue to work hard, study hard, work hard, and improve our lives. I believe we will all get better and better.
Why don't you guys fight for your rights against your government? Like, you're on TH-cam, which is quite illegal to do so in China... so why don't you fight them for something that so many Chinese are already actively civilly disobeying to access in the rest of the world/West?
China progresses so fast, thanks to its leaders who make the right choices.
@@GGLEDOU
*And also the discipline of the Chinese people.*
@@GaryLee-xg8rs 100% agree.
This senseless comparison by the media & pitting China & India continuously is causing divisions, distrust & other problems.
Both countries have their strengths & weaknesses; both can via trade & cultural exchanges benefit each other & the planet earth. Where there is a will there is a way.
Absolutely agreed !! I believe these kinds of narratives are sown on purpose - the principle of ‘divide and conquer’ was successfully applied by western colonial powers for centuries, and is still in use to this day. Just imagine if India and China were to form the close partnership such as that has recently formed between Russia and China. Now THAT would be an unstoppable power the likes of which this world has never seen before ! I happen to be Chinese (born and living in South Africa), and I am happy irrespective of if China or India progresses - remember that each country has massive populations of 1.4 billion people. If they BOTH progress, that means that 2.8 billion people on this planet have a better chance at feeding their families, clothing and educating themselves, and living a better life. If that’s not a win for humanity, I don’t know what is.
Chasing the clicks. 2.8 billion potential clickers ain't nothing.
It's part of the Western propaganda and method of divide and conquer. The Indians are at fault also by always comparing themselves with China. It's an unhealthy obsession as they can never achieve what China has.
It's only causing division and distrust from India because they aspire to be a Western society. China and Chinese don't care.
Endian media make Endians believe they're the best of the world, despite health and corruption issues, to say the least.
The main reason has fallen so far behind China in almost every sphere of development is due to the simple fact that the Chinese are smarter, more pragmatic and has greater business acumen than the Indians
Agree 100%.
Objectively speaking, India has developed fairly well especially for a country of that size, and compared to other developing countries economies. They have a respectable presences in the tech and space sectors. However their society, and as a consequence their system is poorly organized. Coupled with a lack of initiative and too much political grandstanding it makes it hard to compete against China.
Poor people revolting...OneMan OneParty rule...China is collapsing...Communism can never last long...Check World History, last 300 years....!!
Confucianism only one word...that's how east Asia has this
Hardworking, Hardworking, Hardworking
China took a ride on the massive globalization bandwagon, India missed it. Now, India is trying to do what China did in a deglobalization environment. Dear India, do not even try. Instead, figure out some way better fits you
Agree, India missed the boat but they can still grow for some time and squeeze out as much as they can of a dying phenomenon.
But now the world is going against globalization, and India has missed the best time for peace.
No one is trying to emulate China , do not worry. De-coupling also creates its won opportunities which we would happily take.
Chinese lQ=108, Indians lQ=76....😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@alexzeng India missed the boat because of it's false anti-colonial narrative. It took them a lot of time to come out of economic suspicion of the West and the rest of the World. By the time they jumped into the globalisation process in full force, it is too late.
India 's system of governance is facism, never democracy. You simply don't send "buttonmen" to target non voters and polical opponents.
1) did a 8 x Bollywood MI6 in Qatar?
2) did a "Hardeep Singh Nijjar" in Canada?
3) did a "Nikhil Gupta" in USA?
4) did a "Constable Chetan Singh" to the non voters in India?
Constable Chetan Singh: If you want to live and vote in |ndia, I am telling you it's only Modi or Yogi......or ELSE
how many more "buttonmen" has he got to "fix" his political opponents and non voters?
These facts should tell you whether the Indian voting process is fair.
India needs house cleaning and furnishings first.
They are their own enemies.
Are you a China fan?
@@IndiaTides and you are a puppet of the American neocons?
and its endless wars
@@IndiaTideswhat does that have to do with being a china fan or not?!?!
@@IndiaTides I am older than you that's my observations, I probably ate more salt than you ate rice.
Progress is not just population and GDP numbers. It's how the real population, the common folks, benefit from such growth. India is still inundated by the poor all over the country. Only the rich and some middle class benefit from india's growth. You find beggars all over the place in india, creaking trains, buses and public transport, inefficient health systems, yawning gaps between social classes and many other ills.
We can say exactly the same about China and about US. Europe has social democracy and try to level the ground; even there the number of homeless in UK streets will surprise you.
I mean the Gini coefficients which calculates the 'inquality' or wealth gap of the nation proves that India has drastically decreased its economic inequality going by the latest data.
@@suvrajyotigupta2368whataboutism much?
Is everyone rich in China? These CCP trolls are funny 😅
@@realnapster1522 cope much?
Oh purleez...Why compare India with China? India is not in the same league as China in. Best comparision for India is likely with Indonesia or Nigeria.
Bangladash and Pakistan.
True, the comparison was simply by sheer size of the population and nothing else. China’s approach is driven by Confucius. India is driven by which direction the wind blows.
@@Sidekick618 I could not help laughing when I saw your comment of "India is driven by which direction the wind blows".😂
There is nothing wrong in getting compared with Nigeria. For your kind information India has 29 states, In that only 2 states are poor ie up and Bihar. And up population itself is equal to Bihar. Fortunately we don't have one child policy. Even without one child policy entire South is becoming rich and we have lesser population. growth. Only these 2 states are dragging down our indices. We can't kill people like you to show ourselves richer
I mean if you have any other country with an equivalent population, go ahead b
Charlie munger already answered this question in 2 minutes . “ India didn’t prosper because it took the worst parts of western democracies” . This talk is a waste of time compared to mungers.
I think the ultimate reason why India will not be a competing power in the future is its foundation is very lose. The west colonized India before so they know how easily it can be divided again. India have so many different ethnic, religious, Caste and racial differences its impossible to form a real unified country. It can be easily dismantled. Ofcourse now its useful, but later on when it makes and meaningful advancements it will be dismantled for sure. The best strategy for India is to not take sides.
You really don't know what defines and unifies India - take a hard look to really understand.
中国人也是这么认为，只要西方想要，印度随时可以分裂成多个国家
The British united India, without the British Empire, India would be many kingdoms.
@@xingchen9807lol west tried in cold War but failed. Only bat Chinese believe in it. You better protect tibet
Does the US have these fault lines ? Do ethnic fault lines exist exist in UK at the height of the World Wars ? Did Ireland explode in 1916 ? yes , it did .... so that by itself cannot prevent India any more than it has stopped UK or the US.
India does not take sides to protect its autonomy, but then again we are in the Quad; we have multiple agreements with US in every sphere of human activity. We have only hostility with China at this point !!
Bangladesh surpassed India several years ago in per capita gdp. However, the gap is not that big yet. India should look up to Bangladesh and try to outperform them first. You have to walk a thousand miles step by step.
India certainly has great potentials. The question should be if India can be the next US, as the real largest democracy.
By that measure. Tiny Greece has more per capita income than china. China should first complete with Greece than usa.
This is a false information.... per capita GDP of the city of Kolkata is higher than that of Bangladesh.
Actually the lastest data of UN has uncovered that India has surpassed Bangladesh in terms of GDP per capita. India has 2.73K USD while Bangladesh has 2.63K USD. Your analysis relies on outdated data. Don't use chinese sites. They're known to be unreliable.
@@somakchatterjee6429 that is true. I have not heard any one asking whether China can be the next Greece though
@@somakchatterjee6429your example doesn't work. If Greece was behind China and now leaped over, then maybe. Matter of fact, China has been studying Singapore a lot in the past. They literally gave Singapore a land to create a mini Singapore to try it out.
Bangladesh was behind India and they were looked down by Indian before. Also the culture and geography are comparable between India and Bangladesh.
Let's be honest. India has no development strategy of their own. Their only strategy is to copy China's strategy.
1) When China's Alipay was launched in year 2004, India copies, and India's UPI was only launched in year 2016.
2) "India's second-largest e-bus maker finds itself entangled in fame allegations (MINT)" --Apparently, "made in India" uses Chinese components and claimed to be made in India. Truly made in India.🤭
3) High speed rail/bridges/EVs and infrastructures etc.
4) China started their nuclear/space programs earlier than India.
5) China invested in Africa far earlier than India. The only reason India invested in Africa is to "counter" China. Why? China invested in Africa when they're poor, India don't.
6) Many more. That is why they are always the laggard of China. Laggard
The economic crisis is really worrying, especially with everything going on in the global economy.
Definitely, the current economic instability is causing a lot of concern. With factors like trade tensions and fluctuating markets, it's hard to predict what's coming next.
And the pandemic has only exacerbated things. It's led to disruptions in supply chains and forced many businesses to shut down temporarily or even permanently.
That's true. And the ripple effects of these disruptions are felt worldwide. It's not just one country's problem; it affects everyone.
The massive government stimulus packages implemented to combat the pandemic's economic impact could have long-term consequences, like inflation.
Inflation is definitely a concern. It can erode people's purchasing power and make it harder for businesses to operate profitably.
According to statistics from the WHO and UNICEF..
"India is the No. 1 country in the world for open defecation, with over 344 million people without regular access to toilets in the country."
Filippos and japanese love curry indians very much.
You got the numbers wrong. Use these research materials instead. One from an Indian source and the other one from global institution, UNICEF.
*Indian source:* Times of India
*Title of article/research/report:* Global shame: 597 million Indians still defecate in the open.
*What article said specifically:* India continues to be the country with the highest number of people (597 million) defecating in the open
*Title of article/research/report:*
Progress on Drinking Water and Sanitation 2014 update
*Global Source:*
UNICEF
*What article said specifically:*
India continues to be the country with the highest number of people (597 million people) practising open defecation (Fig. 17).
those ISSUES can still be corrected...
India leads the world in TOILETS. Every square meter under their feet. Just stand or squat and go.
@@LandGrabbingIndia, you must also read Indian media reports. India is already a global super power nation in 2020.
Caste system doesn’t exist in China. India’s handicapping herself
It does not exist in India either, anymore than Dragons exist in China.
No but the credit score system does in China. Worse than the caste system.
@@suvrajyotigupta2368lmao stop lying. It does exist in India. We live in the internet era. A medical student belonging to a lower caste was bullied and so she deleted herself in india.
China was a feudal,superstition country, but Mao wiped out all the old system and gave china a new start.
@@suvrajyotigupta2368 Indians say that there are no caste system in India? But what are "caste related violence" and why is it still happening? What are the Musahar people and what are their dietary? Has democracy ever had a caste system? No, but only India's version of democracy. Learn some honesty.
China can look Western powers in the eye, point directly at them and say you're wrong. I will do better.
India looks at Western powers nervously with downcast eyes and says.. I hope I'm not wrong (gulp). I will do better to win your approval then you will let us join your group. Yes?
Indians are demographically and culturally closer to westerners , so we do not see them as enemies. The PMs of UK, Portugal, Ireland, many Premiers in Canada , Guyna are all of Indian origin so are dozens of politicians all over Anglo sphere . You people are a racist xenophobic group who have problems with even near neighbours like Japan, Philipines, Malaysia etc.
Didn't India say you're wrong to Canada last year? Your analysis seems outdated. Should research more.
It’s funny. Since China copies everything western. Even their names are western. China is no ancient China anymore. They copied west in all aspects while India still takes pride in its ancient culture. Communism that China flaunts also originated in west.
@@parker4406 Your comment is totally out of context.
The difference between Indians and Chinese is that India always likes to compare with China, while China never thinks of comparing with India. The biggest difference between India and China↓
Indians: We will become the next superpower before 2030.
Chinese: We are still a developing country.
In history, China has repeatedly recognized and sincerely worshiped India as its teacher. You can cite Buddhism, architecture, literature, etc. as examples. Throughout its five thousand years of history, China has never lacked its own originality, but the Chinese have always been willing to learn from other civilizations and wisdom they came into contact with. Somehow the social mentality in India is different. India prefers to act like a student to a certain group of people and like a master or teacher to others. The fundamental reason for this phenomenon is that the Chinese believe that everyone is equal, and there are always opportunities for people to learn from each other, help each other, and repay each other. Indians, on the other hand, until recently still believed that people should be divided into classes according to the nobility score they were born with.
Good observation, totally agreed.
China believe in equality? 🤣🤣 only for han Chinese
if everyone is equal, why are minorizin china given special treatment?
The interactions with chinese people always end up with them complaining about it.
As a Chinese, I don't see any period of time that China worshiped india as teacher. You might also argue that european believed in the Hebrew God than they must worshiped Israel, which I disagree.
@@parker4406 Once the minorities catch up the special treatment will disappear.
The only thing similar between the two countries is population size. That is it.
China has one language. Spoken and written.
India has many languages.
India is not a country but really a group of colonies which were kingdoms and independent states before the British colonised all these states and kingdoms.
A better India is a break up India, because politicians in India has never ever run a massive united state historically.
All the governments of some sort were focus on their little benefits and priviliages, never see the wholistic picture. It continues in Indian politics today, and no one wishes to sacrafice for greater good because they see everyone differently in terms of religions, castes and tribes.
China considers Canto and Mandarin as same? Maybe tell that to HKers who think mainlanders can't adjust well to their language. Hmong and Hokkienese are way too different. We don't even have to talk about tibetan and uyghur languages.
@@merrick6484that would be the dream for the US, divide and conquer
If India allow, her smart people will create a universal language for them to use from North to South, East to West with ease, but that's really an unpopular to the older idea-ers politicians, any way let wait and see.
investing in India,, there are many unexpected costs, namely politicians and police officials...
A lot of money travel under the table from one pair of hands to another. This is the expected cost.
Also corrupt labour union leaders who will organise a strike in a company to blackmail for money under table.
@@stevewang2that happens in China too. All developing countries face this.
@@parker4406 Doesn't happen as much in China due to the punishment meted out which includes execution. Vietnam had a recent case where a woman was sentenced to death for stealing billions from the state. Corruption in India is as bad as it gets. The West are masters at corruption.
@@parker4406 Nope.
Moody's credit rating: China: A1 whereas India: Baa3
Standard & Poor's credit rating: China: A+ whereas India: BBB-
Fitch Ratings credit rating: China: A+ whereas India: BBB-
*BBB- or Baa3 status = lowest grade rating for investment, just 1 or 2 levels above junk status.* 😆😅🤣😂
Global conditions change, replicating China is futile. India seems to be behind in every opportunity, interestingly China seems to be a step ahead.
China has taken a stride in one and we shall take in another.... this is a long race my donkey friend !!
in what opportunity is China ahead? Isn't India getting 11% growth in IT services export?:
@@parker4406 China is ahead in GDP by a factor of 6x.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes.
West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜
Now let us discuss successes of India
1. SURVIVAL
India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour.
West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan.
2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing.
But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia
Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it.
I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc.
India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
Not in the near future. India has infrastructure issues.
what issues in infrastructure are present in India?
"Not in the near future. India has infrastructure issues." And that is just the start. Many more hurdles to overcome, some insurmountable.
@bobsmith3983
Says someone who hasn't even heard about India?
By the way all of your statements are completely wrong.
97% of the science achievements and development in America was because of white Europeans and Jewish Americans.
Less than 2% is due to Chinese.
Moody's credit rating: China: A1 whereas India: Baa3
Standard & Poor's credit rating: China: A+ whereas India: BBB-
Fitch Ratings credit rating: China: A+ whereas India: BBB-
*BBB- or Baa3 status = lowest grade rating for investment, just 1 or 2 levels above junk status.* 😆😅🤣😂
People need to read up these embarrassing news headlines:
1) Moody’s retains India’s BAA3 rating despite government’s pitch for upgrade (India Today)
2) S&P Global Ratings on July 13 affirmed India’s sovereign rating at the lowest investment grade of ‘BBB-’ for the 14th year in a row (TheHindu)
3) Fitch retains India's rating at 'BBB-' as growth potential fights high deficit concerns (The Economic Times)
Meanwhile, Modi lied to his people, saying Endian economy will reach $48 trillions in 2048. All the Endian oligarchs were in euphoria. They needn't to smoke drugs, just Modi's lies.
@@GGLEDOU That's a coping mechanism at work saar. 😊
China understands the world so it has a global and larger world vision.
Its policies complement to be in balance and harmony with the world.
China intends to help the world and the world wants to grow with China.
This is a Buddhist, Confucius, and Asian philosophy.
😊❤👍🙏
But buddhism came from India? I thought indian philosophy is the reason for India being poor if we're going by what little links think?
Yeap...but India has Yoqi, they are very flexible human being and they are real, while Indian never believe Chinese Shawlism Monks Kungfu can fly forward and fly backward, lol..
Buddhist philosophy? Don’t make me laugh now. Modern China knows nothing about Buddhism. They are hardcore communists who will destroy everything in their path. Chinese leaders killed millions of Chinese people during Great Leap Forward.
@@parker4406 That's a lie. Learn some honesty. Buddhism came from Nepal.
@@parker4406 Jaishankar claimed that "Buddha was born in |ndia and he was an |ndian" and ended up apologizing when Nepalese media said he lied. 🤭
▶"India dismisses controversy over Jaishankar's remarks on Buddha (Times of India)"◀
➡Buddha and Buddhism originated from Nepal, never from |ndia. Source: Lumbini, the Birthplace of the Lord Buddha (UNESCO World Heritage Convention).🔚 Have fun debating against a global heritage platform. 🤭
Many reasons why not.
1. Corruption
2. Education - higher percentage of population in China are educated and more STEMS; more womennbare educated in China
3. Women in China are liberated, educated, employed close to 80% vs 20+% in in India
4. manufacturing and industrial capability -
5. Infrastructure - roads, port, rails, information and computer network
6. Skilled and hardworking workforce.
1. Woman in China are liberated... really, why is it that you have a worse sex ratio than India ?
2. Corruption not a problem in China ? Really ?
3. Chinese infrastructure is superior but India is fast catching up. Also you build infra without concern for viability, look at your real estate sector, 8 of the 11 HSR lines in China are in the red, with a debt of about Trillion dollars.
4. The skill content of the Indian workforce varies .
India does not have unhealthy amount of debt though.
@@suvrajyotigupta2368 Cope a lot don't you.
@@suvrajyotigupta2368 india will not catching up. china building infrastructure is super super fast more than everyone else every year since 2000. india build fast on mere few years and already say catching up. China uses as much cement in two years as the US did over the entire 20th century.
I don’t agree with the idea that a country should have 80% of its women in the workforce, this will bring down birthrate below replacement, I mean look at South Korea, they’re literally on the brink of extinction, what good is all that development if your people won’t be around in the near future
West is high, zelensky is testimony for how high they are.
Indian are smart when it come to telemarketing scams…😂😂 “Hello, my name is John Wayne. I would like to talk to you about your car warranty”…..talked with accent so thick they called it Curry!! 😂😂😂
Xi sia sjwwk oeke
John Wayne.😂
But the Chinese scam more from North Myanmar
I have received a call before from someone speaking in English saying he is calling from the US and his name is Henry.
But his English accent is sooo obvious the curry accent.
Ok wuhan virus creator, bat soup water .
Ching ching
Comparing India to Сhina is like comparing Greece to Germany.
Good point cuz India had top level philosophers
@@rararaaa-jv8mu Very well put Chloe! :) And it's 'have', not 'had'. :)
@@catonpillow but i heard that they will abandon the china model, of manufacturing but start from financial service and semiconductors so the infrastructure is not important and will not be stuck by the US sanctions later on like china . that sound like very smart
Historical economical facts of India and China: A tale of arrogance and talking versus humility and actions.
1) India joined WTO earlier than China. 1995 vs 2001. India had a head start advantage.
2) India gained independence in 1947, 2 years earlier than China (civil war). India had a head start advantage.
3) India's GDP was higher than China only because of the "British India" 's leadership.
4) After the British left India in 1947, India could only compete against China fair and square based on their true capabilities. Please note that India's GDP is much higher than China when both received their independence. It is the Indian leadership versus the Chinese leadership from this point onwards.
5) The GDP gap between China and India narrows down and China caught up with India during the 1980s.
6) 1980s is a very crucial period because it is the only period in history whereby both countries started at the same starting point of the GDP race after independence.
7) Fast forward today, China's GDP became 5+ times more than |ndia today. This is the difference between the Chinese GDP miracle versus the Indian GDP miracle.
8) Despite all these facts, India's leaders claimed to be the "World Fastest Growing Economy" and a superpower.
9) China's leaders claimed to be a developing country and has never claimed to be a superpower.
I heard from Indian economists themselves, the economic growth numbers are bunk or severely inflated and most of the growth is in agriculture and services and not manufacturing. It's the Americans and the West talking propaganda to make the Indians feel good and encourage hostility against China. Also the current border dispute with China started when the Modi government committed cartographic aggression with a map of Ladakh and the Chinese said "I don't think so" and moved soldiers to consolidate what had been a buffer zone.
@@kenw.4539 How many times has India changed their methodology of calculating GDP? Did Harvard University, one of the best Universities of the world, said that India overstated their GDP by changing the methodology of calculating their GDP? 🤭🤣😂 If their GDP is really that great, why is that Indian "economic refugees" are going around worldwide begging for jobs and citizenships?
@@kenw.4539 Did Harvard University, one of the best Universities of the world, said that India overstated their GDP by changing the methodology of calculating their GDP? 🤭🤣😂
@@kenw.4539 How many times has India changed their methodology of calculating GDP? 🤣😂
@@kenw.4539 If their GDP is really that great, why is that Indian "economic refugees" are going around worldwide begging for jobs and citizenships?
Most would agree that the China’s success in past 40 years is indispensable from its political/social system, which still performs good so far. While India is totally different in this regard.
but India is logging in 3% more growth than China despite not being a communist country? I thought India as a democracy will slow down more than China?
@@parker4406 3% more growth in an economy one sixth the size means India is falling further behind China. The math doesn't lie.
@@parker4406 Replay 0:31 to 0:36 until you have fully understood what it means. India ain't qualified to talk down to China or lecture China or talk big to China when it comes to GDP or economy.🥱 Reality hurts.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes.
West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜
Now let us discuss successes of India
1. SURVIVAL
India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour.
West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan.
2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing.
But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia
Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it.
I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc.
India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
China plus 1 requires China. It just means Chinese companies manufacture in 3rd nation, but this means US consumers just pays more to say not made in China.
No donkey... it means companies move the fulcrum of operations to the plus one or face whatever consequences there be...
@@suvrajyotigupta2368 Yes, the consequence is the US consumers pay more for the same product through tariffs.
Yes the American are fooling themselves into paying more for the same products which is subsidizing the middleman nations. The USA government is so foolish in believing that they are hurting China with the sanctions and tariffs.
India needs a top to bottom revolution that gets rid of caste feeling.
Even two brothers from same mother are not same how can two civilizations can be same? India will Chart it's own path to greatness, I simply can't understand this obsession to compare india and china, except population what is same between them.
It's India that's comparing itself with China. The Chinese don't care enough to do a comparison. India is not on Chinese minds. India needs to grow up and do what's good for India and not compare itself with anyone.
@@bobsmith3983 India never compares itself with an autocracy. PM Modi in FT interview made clear if you want to compare india do this with fellow democracies not an autocracy.
But India is under infamous authoritarian. It was a shocker! Despite electoral bond cheating, locking up dissidents and chief ministers, freezing finances of opposition, BJP partisan controlled of Police, judicial and electoral commission, and direct payment to 800,000,000 for food support by Modi, The opposition did well. Incredibly well!
Very good observation. I hear it's the ruling Brahmin caste that's doing this? Most Indians, I imagine are just trying to survive and do well for their family. Probably barely thinks of China except when the goods they buy says "Made in China."
India has to beat Vietnam in competitiveness first. Yes Vietnam is small compare to India, but the people are smart and hard working and willing to sacrifice for their national development. India is ruled by small group of local people who control their local politicians and nothing will get them to work together.
|ndia is exporting their unemployment problems and their unemployed "economic refugees" in millions to every part of the world, thereby, creating unemployment problems for the native people in host countries. As a result, many of the locals/natives became jobless and/or homeless. For example, nearly 97000 Indians detained trying to enter US illegally in last one year (Business Standard). This only for 1 year and through the not legal means.
If India is already such a superpower, than why does every Indian want to get out, particularly the educated ones?
@@kenw.4539 Precisely, 100% spot on.
The fact indian falls behind bcoz china has one govt who takes decesion fast where india was stuck in democracy.
Japan and South Korea also democracy. USA also democracy.
@@mudra5114 South Korea developed during the military government period, Japan actually developed during the Nazi dictatorship before World War II, and the United States only managed to survive World War II and World War I after the world was reduced to rubble.
The efficiency of democracy is too low and is not suitable for post-developing countries to catch up with developed countries.
@@mudra5114Democracy isn't a good system in a chaotic country like India.
@@cheng-s8r Japan was never Nazi or National Socialist, and Japan redeveloped after WW2. The USA developed as a democracy, so did Germany after WW2. Singapore developed as a democracy too.
@@MJ-revered If you try anything other than democracy, India will break apart.
Confucius vs casting system. Can’t compare.
That's why China eventually caught up to Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, and South Korea. It took awhile because China is big but they eventually did it. Caste system is just awful for India and completely useless for economic development. So is misogyny and anti-Muslim policies that Modi is famous for.
There is a large number of India's population still in poverty and the literacy & mortality rate is lower than China. The infrastructure is way behind China by at least 5 years.These are the basic characteristics to progress.
By 25 years
5 years? 5 years ago China already have tens thousands of miles HSR. India has 100 meters. Is 100 meters equal to 10,000 miles in your universe?
How does Indian come up with this number, like 5 years or 25 years? Indian infrastructure was built by their colonial master and it still exists till today. For example, their rail road infrastructure was built by their master the British. And it was built hundreds of years ago. India is centuries behind China.
@@chestnutridge4187 most of your HSR are in red ... no passengers. Why should we make HSRs that are so expensive and nobody rides?
@@yourenodaisy2391do you have any data to suggest most of our infra is from colonial times? I thought Confucian principles forbid one from talking nonsense. Guess I was wrong.
There are many Indian bots saying that India is the richest country before the British came and is richer than China. Let me debunk their scams with facts and logical reasoning. Before USD became the reserved currency of the world and hence GDP calculation, gold is the reserved currency of the world. How much gold reserve each country has is obviously kept secret for strategic purposes. How do you determine the GDP of countries before USD became the reserved currency and how do you determine the GDP of countries back then? No way. Only Indians claimed that they have larger GDP even larger than china for centuries before British c0l0nisation. If India is so rich and powerful, why is it that India was fully colonized but not China? Common sense. 🤭🤥
Indians owner guy😂
@@NagomRM Not really. YT Video: ▶"Abhijit Chavda: China's Century of Humiliation; India's MILLENNIUM Of Humiliation".◀ If China has 1 century of humiliation, |ndia has 10 century of humiliation. 🤭
Are you Mizo or Meitei? You will always be Indian. All NE Indians have AASI ADMIXTURE HAHAHAH
@@rtry2072 I am not an Indian. 🤭🥱
@@rtry2072 You do not have any intelligent rebuttal to my opening comment, hence, a topic change is what you can do at best.🥱
Why? 1nd1an avg 1Q: 74, Chinese avg 1Q: 105.
Absolutely right. Much different
It's in the genes.
@@bobsmith3983LOL
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes.
West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜
Now let us discuss successes of India
1. SURVIVAL
India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour.
West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan.
2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing.
But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia
Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it.
I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc.
India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
I have read that India is a very unwelcoming country for foreign business including spurious taxes, changing rules and regulations and strong labour unions. It is said that you can invest and grow in India but you can never take any profits out. The license raj lives on.
I dont think that its that bad
I hear the government can play games with your finances and taxes and there's always the danger of confiscation. Also bribery is normalized and rampant to get anything done. If you don't pay enough, you can get your electricity turned off in the middle of the day while you are manufacturing. The business atmosphere is definitely primitive. Many companies have tried, gave up, and left.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes.
West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜
Now let us discuss successes of India
1. SURVIVAL
India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour.
West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan.
2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing.
But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia
Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it.
I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc.
India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
INDIA IS THE COUNTRY OF THE FUTURE WHERE THE FUTURE IS A NO SHOW
The main factor is women's participation in the labour market hence productivity and GDP, India is around 20 percent, China is around 70 percent.
To achieve theoretical parity of productivity per capita, India needs to have 1.3 to 1.4X the population of China's, assuming the men and women population ratio is 50/50.
True
The pop size itself doesn't suffice. More people doesn't mean more demands because most of social wealth of India now owned by the top 1%. Its impossible to tax the rich under the current Indian political system.
For India a greater population means a greater amount of poor and hungry people. Ideally India should reduce it population or at least control it like China did.
They also need to stop their anti-Muslim policies.
Unfortunately for the rest of the developing countries, the last opportunity to industrialize was from 1995-2015 and China seized it. The world has rapidly evolved with automated manufacturing and instituting AI in everything so cheap labor is no longer necessary. Also, globalization is dwindling and blocs are emerging so the wealthy countries will fight to stay wealthy and the poorer ones will remain as is.
Not much industrialization left to push to India. Even if China somehow disappears overnight and you try to move the Chinese supply chains and technology to India, given the current state of affairs in India, is it even possible? So many companies have tried the "final assembly" model in India and have given up even with that simple task. Many Indians say it won't work with the current culture and weak rule of law in India.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes.
West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜
Now let us discuss successes of India
1. SURVIVAL
India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour.
West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan.
2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing.
But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia
Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it.
I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc.
India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
The first issue that India needs to address is language unity, emphasizing issues related to people's livelihoods such as education and healthcare
Thank you for the advice ...not needed though.
@@suvrajyotigupta2368 It seems India needs the advice as it has not implemented a common language for all Indians which is fundamental to unity.
@@bobsmith3983 Indians are people proud in their heritage ; they are not slaves and do not speak in other people's languages.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes.
West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜
Now let us discuss successes of India
1. SURVIVAL
India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour.
West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan.
2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing.
But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia
Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it.
I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc.
India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
India has followed the advice of the IMF and had a stagnant growth but China refused to listen to the IMF. That is the major difference.
IMF insists on neo-colonial policies designed to keep the country poor. Look what happened to Russia when they listened to the IMF under Yeltsin. They sold their state owned industries for nothing creating the disastrous oligarchs.
China is more practical and intelligent because they pursued a manufacturing based industry when they are poor and technologically low during the 1940s after independence. India on the other hand pursues a service based industry during the 1940s when they are technologically low and poor as well after independence. IQ matters. Now, India is focusing on manufacturing and trying to copy China's success but it is too late. China has move on to from low tech manufacturing to high tech manufacuring such as solar panels, EV vehicles and EV batteries, aviation, consumer drones etc. and so on. With higher tech, manufacturing based industry is now automated/AI rather than labour intensive.
No factory can operate over the long term in any country in a vacuum of proven essential supporting heavy infrastructures such as low cost power, water, transport logistics , human resources with strong human capital, strongly innovative R&D resources, favourable tax system, favourable govt support and most importantly a favourable large scale domestic market for the products! As such , India fails very pathetically to qualify in any of these pre-conditional categories!
yet India is growing more than China.
Also according to the Indians themselves, under Modi, bribery is now normalised and worse than ever. Before Modi, it was still viewed as not a good thing but expected. Now EVERY public official expects a a large bribe openly. Any time they're not happy, they can demand bigger bribes or your electricity during peak manufacturing hours can mysteriously disappear. This is just one example. Also because they haven't invested much in education, there is not much of a work ethic. Rule of law is very weak. Lots of stories of women going to the police station to report a rape and get gang raped by the police themselves. Imagine if you piss off the cops in the region where your business/factory is located. Lots of problems they need to overcome.
India is the sound of thunder arrived before action.
China success is the sound of thunder.
Honestly , we Indians know our deficiencies. If a company want to start a branch in India, we have to go praise India and make it to come to our country. It is marketing not boasting. But internally when we are talking with each other we self criticize India like hell. Even china does the same to attract FDI. You cannot talk to Apple CEO about poor India when he starts a company. Here all the people are comparing apples with oranges saying India is all talk. If really India has no potential why do u care and what's the necessity of this podacst and ur comments.
Thunderous fart... very loud , very smelly
@@suvrajyotigupta2368 What you have said only applies to the Indian. Here's some facts for you.
*Indian source:* Times of India
*Title of article/research/report:* Global shame: 597 million Indians still defecate in the open.
*What article said specifically:* India continues to be the country with the highest number of people (597 million) defecating in the open
*Title of article/research/report:*
Progress on Drinking Water and Sanitation 2014 update
*Global Source:*
UNICEF
*What article said specifically:*
India continues to be the country with the highest number of people (597 million people) practising open defecation (Fig. 17).
The biggest problem of China is political system, China don't has caste system, gender equality is much better than India, and religious conflict only exsit in some remote provinces which aren't account for big portion of entire economy.
I believe you want to say that the biggest problem for India is the caste system. China believes everyone should be treated equal. Is the caste system that created the division among the people in India.
@@Sidekick618 I ever thought Indian caste system have been neglected by their society, when I found currently average 2 dalits will be killed per day, that's horrible.
@@smithjerry470 Very sad, China will not do that unless a person committed a serious crime. This is the big difference. Where China is pro-Life, is the reason the government acts in the interest of the people. Over 95% of the population is happy with their government.
@@smithjerry470 Thanks to Mao for the Cultural Revolution, it was painful but effective
@@smithjerry470 there is still a massive rape problem and anti-woman, anti-Muslim divisions that will keep the country from developing next to the massive poverty.
We do business both with china and India.
Our opinion India is 30 years behind China
Who? You are a CCP troll 😅
Jayant Bhandari will say the same thing. Indians just don't want to admit it.
And that's assuming India is on the same trajectory that China was 30 years ago in terms of education, equality, and work ethic...it is not.
@@bobsmith3983 Yep, and so does the famous Indian economist, also named Modi though he isn't as blunt as Bhandari, he just says the failed policies and failed leadership has plagued India since independence.
India can NOT replace China for two key reasons; Firstly short of 4th generation industry including 5G, green energy technology, AI, IoT structure…etc, secondly remain closed to the rest of regional and global economy.
India has entered into a number of FTAs and slowly integrating into the west .... it is not as closed as you may think.
We signed FTA with nordic countries, Australia,UAE and Qatar. Your analysis is wrong.
@@parker4406 Not entering TA with your neighboring country group ASEAN and your biggest also the world biggest trading nation China is not a viable and prosperous strategy at all.
Because India is democracy! That’s the main problem. India is big and not aggressive to defeat enemies like west interference in India internal matters. Not destroying Pakistan 🇵🇰 China is ruthless! China stands up for their strength
You have no idea about India. Zero.
Ur those sent by the rich and dead in the war front while the rich owning all the girls😢
idiotttBrain
Yeah, because they can do wing Chun martial art.
Dear Alicia, excellent analysis!
Muy bien dicho!
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes.
West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜
Now let us discuss successes of India
1. SURVIVAL
India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour.
West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan.
2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing.
But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia
Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it.
I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc.
India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
We may not like this but the next China is China, a China not making T-shirts, toys, sandals, but EVs, chips, container ships, cruise ships, LNG ships, commercial planes, electronic devices...
China is unique as much as India or the US is unique.
no need to be China-being yourself is perfectly OK
India still has very High Fertility rates in central parts which result in huge unemployment rates and that pushes wages down for everyone so despite large number of new companies, the youth ,middle age spending remains low.
China controlled fertility in 1979 and invested heavily in infrastructure and skill development . It is reaping the benefits of all those policies now. China is 3 times larger in land area and has lot of mineral resources as well.
If India isn't careful, their population growth will erase any per capita GDP gains over the past decades. Earning the "most populous country" designation on Earth title didn't do India any favors.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes.
West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜
Now let us discuss successes of India
1. SURVIVAL
India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour.
West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan.
2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing.
But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia
Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it.
I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc.
India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
Modi’s narrow victory highlights the “peoples” dissatisfaction with his policies and belief that he has deserted them.
There was no improvement in the quality of life for the average Indian family under his leadership.
Racism, crime and violence, and societal strife continues. Government corruption continues unabated. Lawfare is rampant.
We all know in practice India is not a democracy.
India’s governance model is “technically” incapable of meeting the needs of its economy and people and lacks skilled technocrats at almost every level to professionally address its needs.
It will take decades to bring its infrastructure and supply chains anywhere near that of China’s. China is already leading the 4th Industrial Revolution and this lead is “increasing at the speed of ‘China’ light”.
Its educational system is decrepit, requiring decades to rework along with creating a paradigm shift in the peoples attitudes toward higher education.
India is a country who takes from the world and gives nothing back treating outsiders with distain and contempt.
Its increasing support for Western militarization to contain China is making other countries in the region nervous, uncomfortable with a growing mistrust of India and its intent as a BRICS+ member.
There is growing sentiment that it might be best for India to leave BRICS+.
India has claimed it wants to take a leadership role in the Global Majority (South), but is not trusted and continues its “sick” manipulative relationship with the U.S. like an abusive marriage.
Who can respect such a country?
Yey Modis party has the single majority approves his popularity . Many joined force to bring BJP down and they failed miserably
He is Chinese or Chuslim bot.
Even it's ally Russia told the Indians it will no longer accept rupees to pay for Russian oil as there is nothing to buy from India with the rupees. The Russians told the Indians to either pay in renminbi (probaby pissed them off to no end) or to pay in gold.
China's already working on China 2. New quality productive forces will change the world. I'd keep an eye on Chinese biomed and pharmaceuticals especially, although the clean tech is certainly making a splash rn.
China already took off decades ago and they are trying to fly higher and faster than ever before. India is still stuck in the hangar because of poor government policies and leadership.
Very simple.
One party system, long term plans, always forward.
Multi party system, one step forward one step back.
Very easy for a single stakeholder to ruin long held plans. Endless negotiations, glacial progress. That's the nature of a democracy.
Such a short but very good discussion and so bang on points.
Thank you. Rather than endless 45-60 minutes conversation this was crisp. Well done Alicia with your points.
1) India or No country can replicate China as world has moved on from USA/West led consumption model of globalisation. Ship has sailed.
2) India shd focus on manufacturing and local supply leadership. But here sphere of China supply dominance will exist.
3) Reforms for job creation must. And be done quickly.
4) South Asia vs EU FTA.
India is allegedly proud as the largest democracy. As far as I see that characteristic is a problem
Boasting doesn't get you anywhere. Being humble and working hard does.
Before British, there are not a union country called India with single language. India has Caste system, Lord-Slavery system, Briefcase system, India is union not more than 100years (1946-2024). China is 4000years written civilization, and a united empire for 2200years since Qin Dynasty with single written language and single soft-cultures.
Before the Mongols united what is presently the landmass of China through force there were only the warring states and multiple dynasties. They came they killed, they raped and vola you have Xi Jinpeng who considers himself a successor of the Khan.
Ha ha good joke. India is older civilization than China.
@@realnapster1522 Source = Indian.
@@realnapster1522 How "old" a culture or civilization are can only be traced back to when their language was first written. Spoken language cannot be proven older than their earliest physical written evidence. Top 7 Oldest language of the world
1) Egyptian (c. 3300 BCE - 17th Century)
2) Sumerian (c. 3100 BCE - 100 AD)
3) Akkadian (c. 2500 BCE - 100 AD)
4) Elamite (c. 2800 BCE - 300 BCE)
5) Hittite (16th Century BCE - 13th Century BCE)
6) Mycenaean Greek (16th Century BCE - 12th Century BCE)
7) Archaic Chinese (c. 1600 BCE - c. 221 BCE)
|ndia wants to claim to have the world "oldest" university? India did not have any writings until the Edicts of Ashoka of the 3rd century BCE, in the Brahmi script, were invented.🤭
@@LandGrabbingIndia Sanskrit is oldest language. You can check. There are many sounds in mandarin which are copied from Sanskrit language. Many Chinese words have root in Sanskrit. English and other European languages also has many roots which were copied from Sanskrit. It’s called mother of all languages. China also borrowed Buddhism and ancient Vedic philosophy, knowledge of martial arts from ancient India.
As a Thai-Chinese who received Buddhist culture from India, I feel good about both China and India. I am confident that both China and India will be able to stand at the top of the world. Although China has achieved success first, India will also reach that point within the next few decades. A good friendship between China and India will benefit ASEAN, Asia, and our world. The people of China and India do not have to bluff each other. Development must be continuous
The 79.8% Hindu majority country, India, is never democracy. Real democracy never had a Hindu Caste System that oppresses the lower caste. Indians say that there are no caste system in India? But what are "caste related violence" and why is it still happening? What are the Musahar people and what are their dietary? Explain what are Caste Certificates and why everyone in India has to get one?
Chill my pakistani brother they see whole south asia same 😅 .
@@Satyam1010-N I am not a pakistani. Do not assume, Pajeetkid.🤣
One reason india is a democracy which was continously susceptible to foreign funding NGOs even by china also..recent example bullet train..road development in Himalayas etc..china's direction are absolute no where in country u can challenge that but in india every govt. Development met with opposition PILs in courts..but despite all it flaws it's moving...U can say that India is like a giant elephant it moves slowly..but when it moves everyone feels it's impact..INDIA will be a Great BHARAT again..
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Working age females’ labor force participation rate in India is less than 30 percent. In China, 78 percent.
Lots of caste problems and anti-Muslim hatred in India also keeps lots of people out of the productive work force. The CCP forced equality on everyone in China.
West 🤠 have never respected India 🇮🇳 despite it's successes.
West 🤠 never thought India would be a survive ( too diverse, chaotic and complex country ) in fact the West had betted on Pakistan 🇵🇰, as more viable. Everyone thought India 🇮🇳 would break 💥 up soon 🔜
Now let us discuss successes of India
1. SURVIVAL
India Survived despite having a large Muslim population and a Terrorist country with OSAMA as its neighbour.
West never viewed India as more relevant then Pakistan which explains large Pakistani diaspora in UK. Rishi Sunak and his ancestors were never Indians. His parents emigrated from Tanzania 🇹🇿 in Africa before that they lived in Modern day Pakistan.
2. India has managed to maintain its democracy.....all countries including USA, Japan, Germany or UK were not democracy when they were developing.
But the miracle did happen in India, Imagine today a large number of Indians are uneducated and poor yet they vote and decide their rulers in a democracy. All countries of Asia, South America, Latin America and Africa WITHOUT EXCEPTION turned to dictatorships. Even Europe had dictatorships Luke Romania, Spain and Stalinist Russia
Economic well being is important so are political rights. Ask someone in China ( now Hong Kong too) who doesn't have it.
I am sure India will do better but surpassing any country is not our goal. We want development with dignity. The way China has developed it has become more like a manufacturing unit or warehouse of the west. There is just too much dependence. They produce items for Western Consumption. The supply chain she talks about can also be a problem when some one like Trump assumes presidency. He started the trade wars and all this supply chain and millions of Chinese were thrown out of work. India on the other hand is focused first on its domestic market and then on foreign market or exports. This way Trump action will not disrupt 📊 our economy. Modi is in 3rd term and he has been talking of manufacturing in his 1st term. Today India is second largest producer of Mobile 📱, Cars and Solar panels etc.
India is slow but steady like the turtle 🐢 in the race. We unlike China don't want to be too much depended on West for our exports. We also wish the best for China 🇨🇳 the hare 🐰
China continued to lead the way with 1.58 million filings, up 3.1% from 2021, according to a yearly report released by the World Intellectual Property Organization on Monday. The U.S. ranked second with 505,000, up 1.1%.
India's figure jumped 31.6% to 55,000, moving the country from ninth to seventh .
Mates, it's not about lowering tariffs.
0:31 to 0:36 and from 3:10 ➡ I will save you 26 minutes of your life (length of video was 25 minutes and 33 seconds) on the reason why India is not the next China. You're welcome. Chinese lQ=104+, Indians lQ=76 🤭😅😏😭
Very frank and informative episode, you mentioned India's internal challenges over education, domestic saving, lowering tariff, manufacturing sector, joining RCEP to be in its supply chain. Alicia had one valuable reminder to India: globalization is over, India has to find its new model to grow.
I can answer something about your explanation.
Not Joining RCEP- Because India has FTA with almost all RCEP countries except China.
Domestic Saving- Since last 5 years Indians investing in retail and equities are increased exponentially. For example. Start-up in 2016- 5000 but now in 2024- 120000 with 150 unicorns already.
Manufacturing is now growing at 11% per annum.
Education reforms must be there specifically in History.
But I can surely say that India will not be next China but India will be India.
@@Pratikdd Dream on. Jayant Bhandari said that India has negative growth and that the growth numbers are manipulated for political reasons.
@@bobsmith3983 😂😂
I don't read just headlines like you.
I read actual data of consumption, investment, trade, subsidy, etc.
People like you just read headlines and believe that they are so knowledgeable.
You are just kid.
@@Pratikdd Lots of copium comments but please keep replaying 0:31 to 0:36. ➡Year 1998 ⬅
|ndia's GDP = 421.35 billion
China's GDP = 1.03 trillion
China's economy is 2 times plus of |ndia.
➡Year 2022⬅
|ndia's GDP = 3.42 trillion
China's GDP = 17.96 trillion
China's economy is 5 times plus of |ndia.
The GDP gap of |ndia versus China gets wider and wider during the past 26 years, yet, the |ndians have the audacity to claim to be the "world fastest growing economy".🤭
@@Pratikdd I listen to third party economists talk (like this economist from 0:31 to 0:36) and from reputable global financial institution such as World Bank. ➡Year 1998 ⬅
|ndia's GDP = 421.35 billion
China's GDP = 1.03 trillion
China's economy is 2 times plus of |ndia.
➡Year 2022⬅
|ndia's GDP = 3.42 trillion
China's GDP = 17.96 trillion
Source: World Bank GDP (by countries)
China's economy is 5 times plus of |ndia.
The GDP gap of |ndia versus China gets wider and wider during the past 26 years, yet, the |ndians have the audacity to claim to be the "world fastest growing economy".
People like you just read headlines and uneducated or unsubstantiated propagandas and believe that they are so knowledgeable.
You are just kid.
Do the Chinese feel insecure whenever anyone talks about India developing? Any positiv video about India on TH-cam, there are loads of comments from chinese and pakistanis despising India. If the Chinese think they are so successful that India cannot catch up with them, why do they even bother to comment on websites about India?
i thinks its indians who are insecure. chinese dont even need to talk about being a superpower by x year, they just do it. you india talk a lot in the comments section yet get sensitive like a feminine man when someone says anything about you guys. maybe try to improve your country, starting with hygiene. and i mean that in a serious helpful way not in an offensive way.
India is negotiating a string of free trade agreements. So it's a little wrong to assume that import tariffs will remain as is. They have had massive direct foreign investment for IT, data centres,...and digital and food startups are growing at a crazy scale. Also Indians can think/are allowed to think for themselves freely - something rather limited in China. India can have China's momentum, there's no need to be the next China. Also they have large (very succesful) immigrant communities everywhere. That's already flowing back to India. Whereas it tends to flow out of China for all government nonsensical reasons. Chinese are ageing. Indians are young.
The reasons why are endless
the only comparisons people are making between India and China is currently population size!?
Double edged sword right there! And we all see it!
We will find out in a couple of years! whether India CAN sustain heck or manage to take dinner off of Chinas plates!
India might take dinner off the Wests plates....
India isnt making the West's goods, and more importantly India isnt making the West's goods at a high enough quality.... India hasnt built up the knowledge base through 70 yrs of hard graft!!
China is an Outlier!
India has its own path, has its own choices to make..... it hasnt dealt with the Western BS like China has through the years! Can India find its true own voice and identity!
IF India CAN replace China as the worlds factory then for sure theyre 50% there! the rest is foresight, planning and governance! BUT I dont see it!
China is changing the world for India! India should thank China LOL!
Not just population size, as both had similar GDP from the 1950s to the 1970s. China simply developed faster, due to a better educated population with higher willingness to work with others.
India is getting poorer every day with every birth without any meaningful economic growth to match. Economic growth in agriculture and services don't count or amount to much in the big picture.
@@kenw.4539 Ah, but India's GDP increases with every birth. It costs money to feed, clothe and house people, and all of that counts as GDP increase. Inflation makes India's population-driven GDP go even higher. I'm very curious to see whether Indian farm output keeps up with population growth, or whether Indian hunger gets even worse (currently 111 out of 125 in the latest global Hunger assessment)
The history Bollywood won’t tell you:1. Around 1500 BC, the Aryans entered colonial India from the Khyber Pass and created the caste system; 2. At the end of the 6th century BC, the Persians defeated the Aryans and began to colonize India; 3. In 327 BC, the Macedonians Colonize India; 4. Beginning in the early 2nd century BC, Bactrian Greeks, Cypriots and Parthians invaded India; 5. In the 2nd century BC, the Yuezhi people who nomadically lived in the Hexi Corridor invaded India; 6. In the middle of the 1st century AD , the Kushan Xihou Tribe, one of the five Xihous of the Dayue clan, unified the five tribes and invaded India to establish the Kushan Empire; 7. In the 5th century AD, the descendants of the Central Asian Ser race and the Dayue clan of the Han Dynasty colonized India; 8 , from the 7th century AD, peoples dominated by Islamic culture began to invade India continuously; 9. In the 8th century AD, the Arab Empire occupied India; 10. In the 11th century AD, the Islamic Turks invaded India; 11. In 1526, the Mongols Colonized India and established the Mughal Empire; 12, the British...There is no India in the world, only colonies of the British Empire. India is the longest colonized region in the world, having been colonized for more than 2,800 years.Most Indians don’t even know where they are from when they look in the mirror.After the British left, they left behind beggars on the streets.
India is a service driven economy, while China is manufacturing driven. If India works together with China and Russia (supply of raw materials), they would be unbeatable trio.
China and Russia do not need any deadweights. Service Industry like scam industry does not qualify to be an industry.
What service industry has India had that is better than China or Russia? Russia by landmass is the biggest country, hence, it is logical to assume that they have the most raw materials or one of the most in the entire world. What about China? 15% of all global exports is from China alone according to United Nations data. China is a manufacturing powerhouse. What is India?
@@LandGrabbingIndia IT
Many smart Indians know this but the anti-Chinese bias of the English speaking Brahmins with Modi is the problem. China always wanted to work with India but India under Modi showed up one day with catographic aggression over Ladakh.
@@WorldVidzz NO, scam technologies, especially those from the call centers do not count.
Let's see how much land this thief in India has stolen from his neighbors.
---Annexed Kalapani from Nepal in 1962;
---Annexed Turtuk from Pakistan in 1971;
---Separated Eastern Pakistan from Pakistan to become Bangladesh in 1971;
---Annexed Tin Bigha from Bangladesh in 1972;
---Annexed Sikkim to become one of its states in 1975;
---Tried to invade Mauritius but failed in 1983;
---Committed massacres of Sikhism, captured their territories and attacked
Harmandir Sahib so Sikhism believers assassinated Indian Prime Minister
Indira Gandhi in 1984;
---Invaded Sri Lanka in 1987;
---1st time invaded Bhutan and failed in 1990 due to international pressure, but
has controlled its defense and diplomatic affairs till now;
---Supported and financed the terrorist organization Tamil LTTE to rebel against
Sri Lanka government but gave it up later under great international pressure.
The betray triggered huge anger of LTTE so it assassinated its Prime Minister
Rajiv Gandhi in 1991;
---Annexed Dooars from Bhutan in 2006;
---Annexed Moreh from Myanmar in 2013;
---2nd time invaded Bhutan but failed in 2017 due to international pressure;
---Tried to invade Maldives in 2018;
---Invaded Nepal and one of its soldiers was shot dead by
Nepal Security force in Jun of 2020;
---Keeps nibbling lands from ChinaTibett and Kashmir that led to a war in 1962 and
border conflicts with China till today;
---Keeps nibbling lands from Pakistan Kashmir that led to daily border
wars and gun fights;
---And more…..
Many cows
17:56 : Agree 👍
How is the west doing 😂😂😂😂😂
Not well I must say. The sanctions against Russia has hurt the West instead of Russia. Russia is prospering immensely due to the sanctions. Russians say sanction us some more.
India has a huge population,because most of their land not from this british created country!British came and invaded this region,put them together to make this India...Free India!
Chinabots in the comment section! Good job!
India bots china bots cia bots. All bots talking
Westerners trying 101 ways to explain why India is falling behind China and came up with 100 ways to defend India's position such as demographic, western liberal democracy, geopolitics sweet spot, etc. The one thing these people don't tell and cannot tell is the difference between Indian people and Chinese people. Just run a business in India and compare it with China. People is the most important resource in a country. Develop the people and the culture well, then you will have a great country.
But it takes thousands of years to develop a culture like China's so the Indians will never achieve what China has now.
Because they know India will succeed. Envy
If someone have basic knowledge of how development works easy in dictatorship but slow in democracy as well as china globalize 15-20 years earlier than india and actual development started in 2016 in india so it takes time to be developed like china but its not impossible as dont forget china also was nothing before 10-12 years
If you see how countries that have the same culture as China like japan Korea Taiwan Singapore you will notice that those countries had dictator as their leaders when they grew alot, India don't have the same culture so india will never grow like those sinopshere countries. India should focus on doing better than Bangladesh, because one big factor is the iq lever of your country and those of the sinopshere countries
Simply because of its own national and cultural peculiarities and especially its social discriminatory system, even after 2 centuries from now, India will not even reach the current level of China's deveopment.
Chinese leaders less talk and more action. India more talk, no action. That's the difference.
India cannot replicate China's economic success. First of all, Indians are too proud of themselves to learn from others especially its immediate big neighbor which India considers hostile. Secondly, India is so plight with all sorts of internal problems - to name a few - lack of infrastructure, most recently on 17/6/24, two trains collided in the Indian state of West Bengal; rampant corruption amonst the various political parties for example, allegations of cheating and corruption in national entrance exams for medical colleges; racial and religious violence - the major incidences include the 1969 Gujarat riots, 1984 Sikh massacre, the 1989 Bhagalpur riots, 1989 Kashmir violence, Godhra train burning, 2002 Gujarat riots, 2013 Muzaffarnagar riots and 2020 Delhi riots. India surpasses China to be the most populous nation in 2022 but the former will face mounting challenge to cater for the huge and explosive population in the next 20 years beyond.