It is so amazing to read the positive feedback and comments from the community - I'm very grateful. And I can't thank Anthony and @makeweirdmusic enough for taking the time to shine a light on all of us weirdos. I've learned about a ton of cool stuff from this channel, so it's really an honor to have my music shared here. Thank you!
Very lovely to stumble upon this!😃I like to go full nerd into music (and many other things) for all my life so I really enjoyed watching this video and to see you explore in such cool ways. And to something that "works" instead of just fooling around or into the very obscure realms (well obviously some of the gnarly intervals in the beginning might take some getting used to I guess :D but on the other hand "normal" 12tet instruments can produce all kinds of dissonance as well, because of resonance, parts influencing each other, bends and what not.. and can actually be nice to play around with). A while ago I fell into this just intonation rabbit hole for a while. I read the fantastic book Harmonic Experience by W.A. Mathieu, which opened a whole new world for me. And there is this man who sings in a just intonation system using and made a ton of really cool videos where he visualises it using a similar "lattice" system as in that book. Unfortunately I forgot the man's name but would be worth it to find it back :D
I meant Gary Garrett in my previous comment ❤ His blogposts are worth checking out as well. As well as the blog of "johncarlosbaez" for really nerdy blogposts about harmonics etc. by the way (stumbled upon that again during my little search quest ;))
This is some amazing stuff! Absolutely incredible! This is a perfect example of context and contrast. He just makes it work, to put it simply. He's not just making weird noises and experimenting (not that there's anything wrong with that) he's creating music. Such a tasteful blend of consonance and dissonance, conventional and unconventional. Wonderfully unique and satisfying. Both of you guys explain it perfectly during the interview portion. It's not too weird, but just weird enough. It feels oddly accessible. I swear this guy has found the perfect recipe. It's like a formula for the perfect percentage of weirdness. A divine ratio of weird to normal.
He's been inspiring me for years! Been analyzing his Micropangaea songs, remaking them, and when i sent an email last year for questions he answered me promptly! My cosmocide album has several references to his "micro-jurassic" music, but I would praise more if i knew how.
@TachyBunker Oh man, when he says not very enjoyable he means us. Not in particular but I think this is what it is. I mean, you've done some pretty harsh stuff. If BB is borderline unpleasant...
I think the transitional elements and bridges make these songs less obviously microtonal. Really good stuff. It doesn't give so much of the sense that it's 'out of tune.' Rather, it builds tension and generates a kind of uncomfortableness that draws mental attention.
I've been following Brendan for some time now, and I really like how creative he is. His latest EP was my favorite by far. I feel like his sound is maturing more and more. I've been studying the 31 EDO system with great perseverance, which has an interesting approach to the harmonic series as well. Long live the XEN music.
Really love this music. Great approach. Fantastic song. Got some new listening. Perpetually confused. Voice leading yes. Music is its own resolution. Thankyou
The impact of the microtonal frets is such that it makes chords and individual notes sound like they are being bent. He really is hitting the notes between the notes.
Really cool, at around 12 minutes, those chords sound off the first time, but after playing it again it sounds solid and has an eerie tone i enjoy. Awesome video, thanks to you both
When the conversation about a style music is more interesting by itself than the actual music could ever be, you know you’ve arrived. This is demented.
I need more letters in the alphabet to begin to describe the effect Brendan's music has on me. It's like discovering music for the first time, every time 🙌
hearing this, i got shivers down my spine, sweat, expelling autotuned 5-3-1 chord changes. i always was fascinated buy microtonal music …couldnt really listen for longer then 2-5 minutes. this is the first fun material. unbelievably! amazing. refreshingy
I have to agree on the comment of enjoyable! Lifetime guitar player, jazz aficionado following everyone from George Benson to Rock and Pop artists on through the Tommy Emmanuel range, simply anything that is melodic and interestingly rhythmic despite the style since you can find that in most any style of music. This is interesting to the ear and as stated he smartly uses tension/release and other approachable aspects in his compositions which to my ears successfully manage to place it closer to "western" 12 tone music that just gets "interestingly out", rather than sounding like some Eastern micro-tonal. I'm a fan of dissonance used well in music in tasteful locations so this has a unique way of also scratching that itch.
Ooh, I loved this. Like waking up to discover they've added new colors that weren't in our spectrum before. I ordered a CD of Holocene Dream right off -- the cover fits the music so well that I have to get the physical medium.
Gorgeous music! It sounds earthy, prehistoric almost, but also like science fiction. Transfigured Earth II reminds me a bit of Icehouse and Split Enz... In the best possible way. Very melodic music with beautiful cinematic depth.
I got turned on tho Brendan Byrnes through your channel, thank you for that! I've been low-key obsessed since. It's interesting to me how his music, the last album in particular sometimes reminds me of the two more synth-wave heavy albums of Kayo Dot, in the way it packages quite challenging harmonies with poppy, vaporwave kind of washed-out synth sounds and production, and also sometimes similar vocal lines. The vocal melodies on the first track played here also remind me of a Danish band called I've Got You On Tape.
I remember showing Brendan some microtonal demos and him being too generous with complimenting those, obviously they weren't worth his time 😂😂😂 what a beautiful soul and amazing songwriter. And then I went full tard with Amogh Symphony 😅😅😅 not everyone felt that experimentation was necessary lol Thank you for the nice video, makes me wanna go back to composing in 19 EDO or something. 😂😂😂 sounds almost normal, try it!
Would be cool if you could interview Jon Catler too (Catler Bros, Willie McBlind). That first guitar with the uneven frets was actually his model. He has a video demonstrating it.
I wonder what you would think about my song "Gamelan Inferno" - I used Udio AI to cross Indonesian Gamelan music, which has a very erratic microtonal tuning, with jazz and modern classical music, (to test out how it would process the contradicting tunings of the different genres) and after a lot of trial and error and careful selection, the result is actually quite soothing. I tried to find a balance as well and add some tension and release too.
I've been listening to transfigured earth i/ii over the last few days and thoroughly impressed. microtonality aside these are fantastic modern pop tunes. for musical muggles i think they'd be accessible in a 'is something wrong with your stereo?' kinda way. or if performed on 'regular' instruments they'd still just be ace tunes :) looking forward to exploring more of your compositions.
Love the way it starts right away. There is something about steps smaller than a semitone, just like how some blues singers and stuff make use of it, the tension and color is awesome. I also love the use of notes distorted together, I'd love to see some more people teach about that. The results tend to be a bit unpredictable in my experience, the amplitude of the notes going in, the distortion, the timbre, all creates wildly different results. Didn't know Out of the Sun yet, might be my favorite of his!
@@MakeWeirdMusic From Perplexity, my Chrome go to add-in: 1. Alternate Fingerings: Trumpet players can use alternate fingerings to achieve microtonal pitches. By adjusting their embouchure and utilizing different valve combinations, they can "lip" notes up or down, effectively creating pitches that fall between standard notes2. 2. Specialized Instruments: Quarter-Tone Trumpets: These trumpets are designed with additional valves (usually four instead of three) that allow players to access quarter tones, which are essential in various non-Western musical traditions. For example, the Maalouf family has developed quarter-tone trumpets that facilitate the performance of Arabic music, which incorporates microtonal scales 3.Custom Modifications: Some players opt to modify their instruments by adding valves or slides that enable quarter-tone intervals. This can include a quarter-tone valve integrated into the tuning slide or using a third valve slide for pitch adjustments12. Microtonal Notation and Fingering Charts: Musicians often rely on specific notation systems to indicate microtonal pitches. Resources such as fingering charts can help players visualize and execute these pitches accurately4. 4. Improvisation and Exploration: Many contemporary trumpet players explore microtones through improvisation, allowing for greater expressiveness and creativity in their performances. This approach is particularly prevalent in avant-garde and jazz contexts, where traditional Western tuning systems may be expanded upon23. By combining these techniques and utilizing specialized instruments, trumpet players can effectively navigate the complexities of microtonal music, enriching their sound palette and expanding their musical repertoire.
Very nice! Really refreshing music Brendan! I'm working on playing the intervals I hear in real time and it would break my head having 27 frets. Kinda the mix between fretless and fretted as you can get in between the standard notes. Good success to you.
Thank you for the great video. Amazing music. If you want to find something comparable in classical music, I recommend Georg Friedrich Haas to you. You should look on TH-cam for his "Konzert für Posaune und Orchester". Haas creates a very unique orchestral sound by putting whole sections of the orchestra in different tunings on a microtonal level. If you listen, it puts you in that weird feeling of shifting harmonically into places you never knew before.
you know who would've totally got microtonal music? mick karn. I can almost hear him on this. love it. it's so.... obvious.... to have those pitches land exactly where they should be, & not where convention dictates.
He says he composes on piano, but I didn’t catch if he is using a 688 key microtonal keyboard. Jesting aside, a fascinating guest and topic. I think most casual music observers don’t realize we all use microtones when we sing, especially sing badly in karaoke bars.
That is a very musical sounding track. Ideal for a western musican like myself into Eastern music, bored with "normal "music and convinced Eastern theory is the future of Western music, Id buy it right now. . Itd be good to color code the quarter steps, or black out the quarter steps.
If I could make a request, I would like to interview Rami Olsen from the Hear Between The Lines channel. They have an album out using 31 EDO, 24, 53, and they are for educational purposes. Rami is a jazz musician and has studied a lot about it, just like Bredan. It would be incredible to watch that.
While TH-cam apparently dicks around with its algorithm to obviously maximize profits blah blah fuck you corporate bullshit, the platform remains the best venue to discover the people making the unbelievable tomorrow we all could not ever imagine without this corporate venue. Thanks to creators for sharing their inspiration here. This channel rocks and Brendan is very very next level human.
i already loved glenn branca's excurses in music for the harmonic series, but in a pop context, it's even more weird. adam neely's microtonal hip hop experiments are pretty nice, jute gyte's microtonal black metal stuff as well. not to forget la monte young untempered piano works! but, as mentioned, in a context of such pop style, this dude here really pleases me. lovely stuff. in the end it's simply a question about being common to something. good move to feature such a musician. thnx
Check out Ultimate Microtonal Playlist of Infinite Justice, all genres, thousands of songs, hundreds of artists. My stuff is called BipTunia, 97 albums, about half is xen. I also make xen VSTs, a synth and sampler.
Very cool interview! I’ve been a fan of Brendan’s music for the last couple years! The lumatone seems like a really neat instrument but cost is pretty prohibitive to get in and dabble (not saying it’s not worth it)…there are some apps that offer isomorphic keyboard layout
@@MakeWeirdMusicyeah, I’m a bass player…so patterns is kinda how I think through music…so it was interesting for him to say he uses the keyboard to break out of thinking in patterns!
How many tones in between those 27 notes can he bend to? This guy is really taking full advantage of the tonal spectrum to the highest possible extent.
I love that you think a Bigsby is super old and microtonal instruments are new. Microtonality is more ancient than the 12 note system used today in the western world.
@darwinsaye Usage of microtonality in western music is quite new. The Bigsby company was founded in 1946, which is very old in terms of rock music. I'm so sorry I didn't specify the context of my statement - you are obviously way more intelligent than I am.
@@sea-ferring Sorry to come off as a smart ass, but you just really should look into things before arguing something with so much certainly. Sure, the Bigsby’s been around since the 1940s. But microtonality has been used in western music since the 1500s. And arguably, even as far back as the ancient Greeks.
@@darwinsaye I didn't actually say that microtonality was new technology. Obviously my wording was bad - the new technology is new instrument hardware and new ways to approach tonality. I admit I am not aware of a lot of Western music that makes or made use of microtonality, but I think it's fair to assume that interest in the subject has been increasing. I'm sorry I annoyed you with my statement - I am used to seeing microtonal fretboards on expensive and extremely modern looking shredder guitars, and to see a hollow body with a Bigsby being used for this style of music was interesting and somewhat refreshing.
Sallimli 3aleh - Microtonal Guitar & Voice - Bas Gaakeer & Mireille Bittar th-cam.com/video/6gosJxlkSFA/w-d-xo.html guitar with extra frets, female vocals come in after a minute, I don't think it's on Spotify. There's another one with the same guitarist, a male vocalist, and some percussion: Wasim Arslan & Bas Gaakeer - Mahboob Qalbak th-cam.com/video/p8tSHM1ZmLs/w-d-xo.html
Technically Robert Rich is microtonal/just intonation, but it sounds pretty normal, like his more active album Neurogenesis. Bestiary sounds weird or "glurpy" because he was experimenting with an MOTM modular synth then.
Reunion Island, maloya ( drum +voices, lead vocal and choir, question/answer) music in the 90's got its harmonies straighten, before that it sounded very microtonal.
I think I actually stumbled onto a song that could fit in a weird list... Not jazzy, more dance/poppy... A cover of 1971's Ten Years After's "I'd Love to Change the World" by Jetta, remixed by Matstubs. Could be getting some hate from some people out there :D But regarding this video: I've seen videos and pictured of micro-tonal guitars before, but they used to have like, half-frets and quarter-frets all over the neck, this guitar just seems to have doubled up on the number of frets. Sounds very cool though.
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard also has a fair amount of microtonal music that doesn’t sound very abrasive to my ear that’s mostly used to Western music.
I actually really like this guy's music, it's really surprising how well he's managed to get this to work in... indie pop? Microtonal Synthpop Rock? Shmusic? I honestly don't know what to call this genre lol, but yeah it actually works really well. I like the kind of dichotomy between feelings of tension and unease on one hand, and serenity and kind of chill ambience on the other. I dunno how to describe it, just vibes, man. Neat stuff. I honestly really don't like microtonal music that's built in a more western style of music, just with weird inbetween notes. It honestly tends to just sound like the guitar is out of tune or someone's hitting the wrong notes, I'm just too conditioned to associating those sounds with stuff like that, but it works really well in the traditional styles of the various cultures that use microtonal scales. I think this hits the right blend of the two though, still sounds distinctly western but has the right amount of traditional influence as well, or something, I dunno this kind of hurts my brain lol.
It is so amazing to read the positive feedback and comments from the community - I'm very grateful. And I can't thank Anthony and @makeweirdmusic enough for taking the time to shine a light on all of us weirdos. I've learned about a ton of cool stuff from this channel, so it's really an honor to have my music shared here. Thank you!
Go subscribe to Brendan's channel. He's a creative genius!
I thoroughly enjoy your music. I did some work in ethnomusicology and my interest in microtonal music opened my mind to these sounds. Thanks!
I just had this randomly recommended to me then remembered meeting you a few times with the cal arts crew years ago
Very lovely to stumble upon this!😃I like to go full nerd into music (and many other things) for all my life so I really enjoyed watching this video and to see you explore in such cool ways. And to something that "works" instead of just fooling around or into the very obscure realms (well obviously some of the gnarly intervals in the beginning might take some getting used to I guess :D but on the other hand "normal" 12tet instruments can produce all kinds of dissonance as well, because of resonance, parts influencing each other, bends and what not.. and can actually be nice to play around with).
A while ago I fell into this just intonation rabbit hole for a while. I read the fantastic book Harmonic Experience by W.A. Mathieu, which opened a whole new world for me. And there is this man who sings in a just intonation system using and made a ton of really cool videos where he visualises it using a similar "lattice" system as in that book. Unfortunately I forgot the man's name but would be worth it to find it back :D
I meant Gary Garrett in my previous comment ❤ His blogposts are worth checking out as well. As well as the blog of "johncarlosbaez" for really nerdy blogposts about harmonics etc. by the way (stumbled upon that again during my little search quest ;))
I adore it. Microtonal synthpop. Immediately on spotify. The future of music is still bright.
There's still treasure out there. And a lot of it.
@@MakeWeirdMusic and that is why we are following your channel!
This is some amazing stuff! Absolutely incredible! This is a perfect example of context and contrast. He just makes it work, to put it simply. He's not just making weird noises and experimenting (not that there's anything wrong with that) he's creating music. Such a tasteful blend of consonance and dissonance, conventional and unconventional. Wonderfully unique and satisfying. Both of you guys explain it perfectly during the interview portion. It's not too weird, but just weird enough. It feels oddly accessible. I swear this guy has found the perfect recipe. It's like a formula for the perfect percentage of weirdness. A divine ratio of weird to normal.
I really love what he's doing and I'm glad people like you get it!
OMFG that was or is just wickedly beautiful . That 11th thang with the fire 7th just was outside my little brain an now I’m healed. Thanks bro!
Part 2 interview coming soon!
That song "Alive" is rocking my world right now!
Isn't it awesome?!
Brendan is a tremendous composer, instrumentalist, producer, songwriter, and artist. I am so grateful for this exploration of his talents. Thank you!
He really is great!
He's been inspiring me for years! Been analyzing his Micropangaea songs, remaking them, and when i sent an email last year for questions he answered me promptly! My cosmocide album has several references to his "micro-jurassic" music, but I would praise more if i knew how.
@TachyBunker Oh man, when he says not very enjoyable he means us. Not in particular but I think this is what it is. I mean, you've done some pretty harsh stuff. If BB is borderline unpleasant...
@mgouat ahaha well why not explore all the spectre we can in our lifetime, including the non-instant good :)
I think the transitional elements and bridges make these songs less obviously microtonal. Really good stuff. It doesn't give so much of the sense that it's 'out of tune.' Rather, it builds tension and generates a kind of uncomfortableness that draws mental attention.
Exactly!
Yep
Fantastic! I had no idea someone was doing microtonal music so well. Great work!
Some of it is really hard to believe!
This was really spicy!
Evening music with accessible complexity. Some cinematic qualities. Great topic, artist, and video!
So glad you enjoyed it!
I never even knew about a microtonal guitar - let alone 27 frets per octave. Amazing. Gives "key change" a whole new meaning.
I'm glad we could expose you to this idea!
I really enjoyed this extended session with Brendan Byrnes. I love his music, and I have all of his albums on vinyl!
Wow! a true fan! Glad people like you exist.
Danke!
Hey! Thanks so much!
Thanks Anthony. Long time fan of Brendan Byrnes. My favourite is the bonus track called Glacial Reef, from Brendan's Micropangaea album.
Man, Nicky. You are a true listener
I've been following Brendan for some time now, and I really like how creative he is. His latest EP was my favorite by far. I feel like his sound is maturing more and more.
I've been studying the 31 EDO system with great perseverance, which has an interesting approach to the harmonic series as well. Long live the XEN music.
Brendan Byrnes is one of my favorite musical artists right now. His avant-pop music is so hypnotic and beautiful.
Excellent!
Operator is truly psychedelic!
Anthony, great thanks for exposing Brendan's art! I am stuck with listening to Holocene Dream album, listened already 2 times, and it's amazing!
You're welcome. So glad you're enjoying it.
This is absolutely amazing!!!! Wow! Another fantastic introduction Anthony!!
So glad you dig it, Paul! Thanks for watching. Check out the previous interview we did with the thereminist. Amazing
I wasn’t initially into microtonal guitar but hearing it in the context of these compositions has won me over. It’s very interesting.
Same here. I'd always heard microtonal music as "let's see how 'out' we can make this" and not "let's make music most people would listen to"
Really love this music. Great approach. Fantastic song. Got some new listening. Perpetually confused.
Voice leading yes. Music is its own resolution. Thankyou
I love that feeling of "confusion"
The impact of the microtonal frets is such that it makes chords and individual notes sound like they are being bent. He really is hitting the notes between the notes.
I just found the new rabbit hole im going to get stuck in for hopefully a very long time. Thank you
We're making another video today!
Really cool, at around 12 minutes, those chords sound off the first time, but after playing it again it sounds solid and has an eerie tone i enjoy. Awesome video, thanks to you both
Yeah! It is strangely familiar and unfamiliar at the same time. Unsettling and wonderful
Like stepping into otherworldly realities. The possibilities of transcends the mundane. Transformative!!!
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
When the conversation about a style music is more interesting by itself than the actual music could ever be, you know you’ve arrived. This is demented.
LOL
I need more letters in the alphabet to begin to describe the effect Brendan's music has on me. It's like discovering music for the first time, every time 🙌
Try middle-case letters. haha
hearing this, i got shivers down my spine, sweat, expelling autotuned 5-3-1 chord changes.
i always was fascinated buy microtonal music …couldnt really listen for longer then 2-5 minutes. this is the first fun material. unbelievably! amazing. refreshingy
It starts getting juicy around 11:17
Enjoy!!
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Love this music! Now I want one of those guitars!
Ok get ready to relearn the guitar.
@@IndigoBassNotes I never finished learning it the first time. Or the second. time... or the third...
I would love one of these guitars, but I know I'd never play it. haha
Immediately went and ordered the LP. Good shit. ♥️
RIGHT ON. That's what I want to see
Amazing
simply, wow, Brendan is doing a really cool music and he's doing that flawlessly!
I have to agree on the comment of enjoyable! Lifetime guitar player, jazz aficionado following everyone from George Benson to Rock and Pop artists on through the Tommy Emmanuel range, simply anything that is melodic and interestingly rhythmic despite the style since you can find that in most any style of music.
This is interesting to the ear and as stated he smartly uses tension/release and other approachable aspects in his compositions which to my ears successfully manage to place it closer to "western" 12 tone music that just gets "interestingly out", rather than sounding like some Eastern micro-tonal. I'm a fan of dissonance used well in music in tasteful locations so this has a unique way of also scratching that itch.
YES! That's that I love about it. He finds the small areas of compatibility and makes it interesting for people like us.
Ooh, I loved this. Like waking up to discover they've added new colors that weren't in our spectrum before. I ordered a CD of Holocene Dream right off -- the cover fits the music so well that I have to get the physical medium.
Thank you for buying his music!
Gorgeous music! It sounds earthy, prehistoric almost, but also like science fiction. Transfigured Earth II reminds me a bit of Icehouse and Split Enz... In the best possible way. Very melodic music with beautiful cinematic depth.
Glad you like it
Same here. I'm a kiwi and has Iva Davies vocal sound as well.
The kind of music I jam out to the most, is the kind of music that I want to make! 💖🎸
Thanks Brendan, thanks Anthony, this is really cool stuff!
Glad you enjoyed it, Will!
Thiis reminds me of the Rolling Stones when Ronnie Wood & Keith Richards tunings aren't quite pitch on.
An ENERGY in itself.
Well-wishes ❤
Hah, well... being OUT of tune is not the same as being IN tune with different intonations and harmonic series, but I get your point. :)
Exactly what I thought of
Very cool!
oh! wow!😍
I got turned on tho Brendan Byrnes through your channel, thank you for that! I've been low-key obsessed since. It's interesting to me how his music, the last album in particular sometimes reminds me of the two more synth-wave heavy albums of Kayo Dot, in the way it packages quite challenging harmonies with poppy, vaporwave kind of washed-out synth sounds and production, and also sometimes similar vocal lines. The vocal melodies on the first track played here also remind me of a Danish band called I've Got You On Tape.
He's doing a lot of cool stuff and he's really smart. So glad we could get you into his music
Fantastic something new to discover.
Glad you enjoyed it!
It reminded me a little of new wave music from the 80's but updated and better sounding. It has a sort of dream like atmosphere it creates.
I can’t believe you got to do an interview with him. That’s awesome! How did you do it?
Messaged him on instagram lol
Excellent !!
Glad you liked it
I can feel my synapses training new neural pathways forging into every new verse...
Bye bye brain
I remember showing Brendan some microtonal demos and him being too generous with complimenting those, obviously they weren't worth his time 😂😂😂 what a beautiful soul and amazing songwriter. And then I went full tard with Amogh Symphony 😅😅😅 not everyone felt that experimentation was necessary lol
Thank you for the nice video, makes me wanna go back to composing in 19 EDO or something. 😂😂😂 sounds almost normal, try it!
excellent stuff
Thank you kindly!
I like microtonal suspensions. They are super rich and variated.
Agreed
Hey! Could do a list video about those artists that Brendan recommended? It's abit difficult to know artist names when articulated.
a microtonal playlist would be great, indeed...
I think that's the right answer
i really connect musically with Brendan .. we think/create alike
Wow, simply fantastic!
Thanks!
Great episode!
Glad you enjoyed it
Would be cool if you could interview Jon Catler too (Catler Bros, Willie McBlind). That first guitar with the uneven frets was actually his model. He has a video demonstrating it.
Oh, interesting. What's a good video to check out?
@@MakeWeirdMusic FreeNoteMusic - Jon Catler, 12-Tone Ultra Plus guitar demo, PART I, 5/15/10 th-cam.com/video/O2eukIoSsKM/w-d-xo.html
Wow that is so awesome. Thank you!
his music is amazing and his voice reminds me of ozzy
So glad you like it!
The music is cool. I think he is double tracking his voice like Ozzy does?
Dunno
I wonder what you would think about my song "Gamelan Inferno" - I used Udio AI to cross Indonesian Gamelan music, which has a very erratic microtonal tuning, with jazz and modern classical music, (to test out how it would process the contradicting tunings of the different genres) and after a lot of trial and error and careful selection, the result is actually quite soothing. I tried to find a balance as well and add some tension and release too.
I think I can´t post a link but there is only one song on YT with that title.
That Ibanez guitar is amazing!
I know. I want one
I've been listening to transfigured earth i/ii over the last few days and thoroughly impressed.
microtonality aside these are fantastic modern pop tunes. for musical muggles i think they'd be accessible in a 'is something wrong with your stereo?' kinda way. or if performed on 'regular' instruments they'd still just be ace tunes :)
looking forward to exploring more of your compositions.
Agreed! That’s why I love it. Good music that happens to be microtonal.
Love the way it starts right away. There is something about steps smaller than a semitone, just like how some blues singers and stuff make use of it, the tension and color is awesome. I also love the use of notes distorted together, I'd love to see some more people teach about that. The results tend to be a bit unpredictable in my experience, the amplitude of the notes going in, the distortion, the timbre, all creates wildly different results. Didn't know Out of the Sun yet, might be my favorite of his!
Quarter tones rule
cool, to my ears and understanding, the micro tonality has an elememt of hyper realism.
Yes, it's "sensual" in that way
I remember when Micropangaea released ❤ Vacant City 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
this is dope
My western affinity for melody is so strong I could barely hear the difference in notes when he went up the fret board.
Yeah, it feels like there should be more notes to reach the octave!
Since a trumpet can be played microtonally, I suspect Miles Davis would have wanted to explore this.
How would that work on the trumpet? Half-pressed valves? Embouchure?
@@MakeWeirdMusic From Perplexity, my Chrome go to add-in:
1. Alternate Fingerings:
Trumpet players can use alternate fingerings to achieve microtonal pitches. By adjusting their embouchure and utilizing different valve combinations, they can "lip" notes up or down, effectively creating pitches that fall between standard notes2.
2. Specialized Instruments:
Quarter-Tone Trumpets: These trumpets are designed with additional valves (usually four instead of three) that allow players to access quarter tones, which are essential in various non-Western musical traditions. For example, the Maalouf family has developed quarter-tone trumpets that facilitate the performance of Arabic music, which incorporates microtonal scales
3.Custom Modifications: Some players opt to modify their instruments by adding valves or slides that enable quarter-tone intervals. This can include a quarter-tone valve integrated into the tuning slide or using a third valve slide for pitch adjustments12.
Microtonal Notation and Fingering Charts:
Musicians often rely on specific notation systems to indicate microtonal pitches. Resources such as fingering charts can help players visualize and execute these pitches accurately4.
4. Improvisation and Exploration:
Many contemporary trumpet players explore microtones through improvisation, allowing for greater expressiveness and creativity in their performances. This approach is particularly prevalent in avant-garde and jazz contexts, where traditional Western tuning systems may be expanded upon23.
By combining these techniques and utilizing specialized instruments, trumpet players can effectively navigate the complexities of microtonal music, enriching their sound palette and expanding their musical repertoire.
This was very enjoyable.
Glad ya dig, Poo!
This is the first microtonal music that I actually like! It's got a slightly sour flavor to it that is just sour enough to be interesting but good. 🙂
Exactly! Good music that happens to be microtonal
Gorgeous
Dope on top of dope
Very nice! Really refreshing music Brendan!
I'm working on playing the intervals I hear in real time and it would break my head having 27 frets.
Kinda the mix between fretless and fretted as you can get in between the standard notes.
Good success to you.
Much better microtonal intonation with frets lol
@@MakeWeirdMusic agreed.
Thank you for the great video. Amazing music. If you want to find something comparable in classical music, I recommend Georg Friedrich Haas to you. You should look on TH-cam for his "Konzert für Posaune und Orchester". Haas creates a very unique orchestral sound by putting whole sections of the orchestra in different tunings on a microtonal level. If you listen, it puts you in that weird feeling of shifting harmonically into places you never knew before.
Trippy! th-cam.com/video/4E463Olwo4s/w-d-xo.html
you know who would've totally got microtonal music? mick karn. I can almost hear him on this. love it.
it's so.... obvious.... to have those pitches land exactly where they should be, & not where convention dictates.
He says he composes on piano, but I didn’t catch if he is using a 688 key microtonal keyboard. Jesting aside, a fascinating guest and topic. I think most casual music observers don’t realize we all use microtones when we sing, especially sing badly in karaoke bars.
Hahaah. He does talk about how it's hard to do this on the piano because the octaves are no longer octaves.
That is a very musical sounding track.
Ideal for a western musican like myself into Eastern music, bored with "normal "music and convinced Eastern theory is the future of Western music, Id buy it right now. . Itd be good to color code the quarter steps, or black out the quarter steps.
If I could make a request, I would like to interview Rami Olsen from the Hear Between The Lines channel. They have an album out using 31 EDO, 24, 53, and they are for educational purposes. Rami is a jazz musician and has studied a lot about it, just like Bredan. It would be incredible to watch that.
Cool
While TH-cam apparently dicks around with its algorithm to obviously maximize profits blah blah fuck you corporate bullshit, the platform remains the best venue to discover the people making the unbelievable tomorrow we all could not ever imagine without this corporate venue. Thanks to creators for sharing their inspiration here. This channel rocks and Brendan is very very next level human.
I think you're saying you enjoyed the video?
i already loved glenn branca's excurses in music for the harmonic series, but in a pop context, it's even more weird. adam neely's microtonal hip hop experiments are pretty nice, jute gyte's microtonal black metal stuff as well. not to forget la monte young untempered piano works! but, as mentioned, in a context of such pop style, this dude here really pleases me. lovely stuff. in the end it's simply a question about being common to something. good move to feature such a musician. thnx
Sounds like you should make a playlist :)
Sounds very cool ❤ 🔥 subscribed ✨️ stay weird ✌️
Thanks for the sub!
He's great. I put out a compilation album called "Microtonal Freedom (A Compilation Benefit Album for Lyn Ulbricht)." Brendan is the album opener.
Oh, cool! I've asked him to put together a playlist of microtonal music for a future video.
Check out Ultimate Microtonal Playlist of Infinite Justice, all genres, thousands of songs, hundreds of artists. My stuff is called BipTunia, 97 albums, about half is xen. I also make xen VSTs, a synth and sampler.
King Gizzard and the lizard wizard have been using microtonal guitars for years on their albums
He briefly mentions them in the 2nd interview we just released
Wow. The itch I really needed scratching
Glad we could help! :)
Very cool interview! I’ve been a fan of Brendan’s music for the last couple years! The lumatone seems like a really neat instrument but cost is pretty prohibitive to get in and dabble (not saying it’s not worth it)…there are some apps that offer isomorphic keyboard layout
I am amazed that he can do the microtonal stuff on a regular keyboard, too!
@@MakeWeirdMusicyeah, I’m a bass player…so patterns is kinda how I think through music…so it was interesting for him to say he uses the keyboard to break out of thinking in patterns!
I love that he has a Bigsby on his 27 tone guitar - a super old piece of guitar technology blended with new technology.
How many tones in between those 27 notes can he bend to? This guy is really taking full advantage of the tonal spectrum to the highest possible extent.
I love that you think a Bigsby is super old and microtonal instruments are new. Microtonality is more ancient than the 12 note system used today in the western world.
@darwinsaye Usage of microtonality in western music is quite new. The Bigsby company was founded in 1946, which is very old in terms of rock music. I'm so sorry I didn't specify the context of my statement - you are obviously way more intelligent than I am.
@@sea-ferring Sorry to come off as a smart ass, but you just really should look into things before arguing something with so much certainly. Sure, the Bigsby’s been around since the 1940s. But microtonality has been used in western music since the 1500s. And arguably, even as far back as the ancient Greeks.
@@darwinsaye I didn't actually say that microtonality was new technology. Obviously my wording was bad - the new technology is new instrument hardware and new ways to approach tonality. I admit I am not aware of a lot of Western music that makes or made use of microtonality, but I think it's fair to assume that interest in the subject has been increasing. I'm sorry I annoyed you with my statement - I am used to seeing microtonal fretboards on expensive and extremely modern looking shredder guitars, and to see a hollow body with a Bigsby being used for this style of music was interesting and somewhat refreshing.
26:07 this suspension and resolution is so satisfying
Best moment of the song. For real.
Sallimli 3aleh - Microtonal Guitar & Voice - Bas Gaakeer & Mireille Bittar th-cam.com/video/6gosJxlkSFA/w-d-xo.html guitar with extra frets, female vocals come in after a minute, I don't think it's on Spotify. There's another one with the same guitarist, a male vocalist, and some percussion: Wasim Arslan & Bas Gaakeer - Mahboob Qalbak th-cam.com/video/p8tSHM1ZmLs/w-d-xo.html
I've asked Brendan to put together a playlist of cool microtonal music and we'll go over it in January.
How does temperate tuning work with a microtonal setup?
Let's see if Brendan answers
Nice
Technically Robert Rich is microtonal/just intonation, but it sounds pretty normal, like his more active album Neurogenesis. Bestiary sounds weird or "glurpy" because he was experimenting with an MOTM modular synth then.
imagine you're on a bad hallucinogenic trip, a horror trip and listening to music. this is what it sounds like and the feeling is really bad.
Waaaahhhhh
Reunion Island, maloya ( drum +voices, lead vocal and choir, question/answer) music in the 90's got its harmonies straighten, before that it sounded very microtonal.
Thanks for sharing!
What key is this song in?
YES
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I saw King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard for their final two shows this year, in St. Augustine and Miami, FL. Their microtonal stuff is super cool!
Can you send a couple of links?
@@MakeWeirdMusiccheck out their album Flying Microtonal Banana.
On the electronic side check out Sevish.
Thanks. I'll check it out
Check Tolgahan Cogulu for the microtonal, yet more traditional Turkish etc type guitar music too 🔥🔥🔥
I think I actually stumbled onto a song that could fit in a weird list... Not jazzy, more dance/poppy... A cover of 1971's Ten Years After's "I'd Love to Change the World" by Jetta, remixed by Matstubs. Could be getting some hate from some people out there :D
But regarding this video: I've seen videos and pictured of micro-tonal guitars before, but they used to have like, half-frets and quarter-frets all over the neck, this guitar just seems to have doubled up on the number of frets. Sounds very cool though.
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard also has a fair amount of microtonal music that doesn’t sound very abrasive to my ear that’s mostly used to Western music.
Can you provide a couple song names?
@@MakeWeirdMusic music.th-cam.com/video/nurX_h-tP8M/w-d-xo.html&si=n2I4Olkao04WApEl
@@MakeWeirdMusic Album: Flying Microtonal Banana music.th-cam.com/play/OLAK5uy_kb8kfsyt08s2Z29752CH_lelHdl_JDwgg.html&si=jnItLO8ZFHQ3bOo0
@@MakeWeirdMusic I posted 2 replies (links) and didn’t see them. I posted them again and now see just 1. Not sure what happened there.
@@MakeWeirdMusic K.G.L.W. music.th-cam.com/video/nurX_h-tP8M/w-d-xo.html&si=9z7U5CFjuG4YGc-u
I actually really like this guy's music, it's really surprising how well he's managed to get this to work in... indie pop? Microtonal Synthpop Rock? Shmusic? I honestly don't know what to call this genre lol, but yeah it actually works really well. I like the kind of dichotomy between feelings of tension and unease on one hand, and serenity and kind of chill ambience on the other. I dunno how to describe it, just vibes, man. Neat stuff.
I honestly really don't like microtonal music that's built in a more western style of music, just with weird inbetween notes. It honestly tends to just sound like the guitar is out of tune or someone's hitting the wrong notes, I'm just too conditioned to associating those sounds with stuff like that, but it works really well in the traditional styles of the various cultures that use microtonal scales. I think this hits the right blend of the two though, still sounds distinctly western but has the right amount of traditional influence as well, or something, I dunno this kind of hurts my brain lol.
De-condition yourself. :)
Cool idea for a channel-🙂
Thanks! 😊