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I always pay. I have always made money. I have also been married since 1988. My wife has paid at times, but I just add money to her account so she stays feeling good. I never worry about money.
He obviously cares, but he doesn't want to say he does because he's worried he'll get shamed for wanting it to be equal. His word choices "unfortunately" said it all.
Let’s be real here, as a man I’m always expected to pay theres honestly nothing I can do. Society will always have the same double standards no matter what even if both were rich. If I asked the woman to pay I’m seeing as an asshole. If I say “Let’s split the bill 50-50”, I’m seeing as a cheapskate. When a woman pays the bill, or says “let’s split it 50-50” she’s seen as kind hearted.
Of course that's the way it should be, since males *never* ask out women who they consider visually worse than themselves, even if it's just 0,1% "worse".
Personally I hate the femboys nowadays that expect want women to pay because they make things harder for real men like me who want to pay for dates. It's all this alpha male red pill nonsense that is turning men into femboys. Alpha males don't want to pay for dates, act like a woman isn't contributing if she doesn't have a job, refuse to get married and don't want to pay child support. Women really should stop wasting time with alpha males.
Yeah you can. Its unfortunate that men have to pay the womans share. But he doesnt really care in that he accepts society isnt fair or equal- that women get what they want and men dont. Simple. He just accepts the inequality that men are bot treated fairly when it comes to dating
@u3962521 Correction: the 1-5% of women that most men find very hot get what they want. Just like the *men* in the same category get what they want. The only males that whine about this "being unfair" are "man0sphere" members who see themselves as waaaay more attractive than they actually are.
Personally, I always offer to cover the first date, even the first few if we click really well. It’s not a dealbreaker if the other party doesn’t pay for themselves or at least offer to per sé, it’s more of a point that will be saved for later consideration. Like how in point and click games have those small notifications that pop up in the corner of your screen when you interact with an object or NPC telling you that “This action could have consequences later on…”. Peoples’ actions are major indicators of their personality.
A deal breaker if she asked me out. If she wants to split, even if I asked her out, and is serious, who am I to say no? I'm all for equality and an independent woman.
If it's a first date and a guy ask a girl out he should pay because he's instigating the encounter. If a girl asks a guy out for the first time, she should pay because she's instigating the encounter. It should be the responsibility of who initiates. When a relationship forms, then start splitting bills.
What does it even mean to take someone out? Like I don’t understand this to be honest. It’s supposed to be a treat to show your romantic interest/affection. If you can’t afford it or feel some kind of weird way about it, pack a picnic and take the girl out to the park or lake. I “dated” a guy that wanted to go Dutch every time and every canned “date” was just a sit down restaurant meal. Finally I gave up and stopped seeing him because I felt like I was getting lunch with my brother. It’s not even the bill, it’s the effort.
if women is jobless and not working or not making money then i will pay for everything.....trust me🤔 men always expect is women have not to be selfish like a gold digger.
Her not offering to pay ss long as its eithin reason is not the deal-breaker what would be the deal-breaker as if she's ordering $20 glasses of wine the most expensive thing on the entree list appetizers if I see her order and all that if she doesn't ask to split the bill I will split it for her because I find that disrespectful when you're on somebody else's dime especially for the first time and you haven't earned the right to do that you don't do it
the issue isnt men paing the issue is a woman not offering.............guys care more about her effort and actions to show they care and offer and appreciate his time and money also huge difference between expecting him to pay and appreciating him paying
Why do you equal not offering to pay with not appreciating his gesture? I would be beyond grateful if a man ever offered to buy me even a 2$ ice cream, since that has never happened, but I would *never* offer to pay because they'll happily take the offer in a second. Don't know about the US, but most males in my Eastern European country will do *anything* to get something for nothing.
Just traditional double standards. We noticed women in this generation atleast where I am living are not traditional nor do they follow any gender roles So I think it's good for me to ditch all these expectations from society or male chivalry
Different between men and woman: Man: yo wanna do somthing fun? Man friend: Yea sure Woman: wanna do somthing fun? Woman friend: IDK maybe later oh no maybe in the weekends wait nvm? I can't go because my hair is messed up and plus i have drama with my family and i can't go... Now you know the difference XD" I am not hating on woman I love woman my mom is a woman my sister is a woman my family have woman but it can be complicated sometimes because woman tend to drag their thoughts more then men would...
Guy should pay but she should at least offer to pay or at least say "Thank you for paying". If she doesn't, it means she's entitled/ungrateful and I won't contact her again.
I'd be beyond grateful, but *never* offer to pay, since in my country that's all he's waiting to hear (so he can save some cash completely guilt-free).
I’m not sure why men cry about paying for dates. Like the whole point of that societal expectation is that it helps bypass female sexu@l selection. Men paying for things was created by the patriarchy to help the average man secure a mate. If women were expected to “split the bill”, the average man would never get an opportunity to date. Women would choose to split the bill with “chads” (aka men she’s actually attracted to). Why complain about something that was made for your benefit? If you don’t want to pay then don’t date
There's no sense in this first comment unfortunately. Men were very okay with paying for dates as society had set, till women started fighting for equal treatments and no gender roles.
I just lost brain cells reading this comment. So it is true that girls only go to so called Chads or in normal human terms "brain dead idiots" , then I say just say that all the time, instead of this bullshit of treat women with sweetness. All are faithless
Sorry to spoil your horrible view on life and relationships because I’m sure no one likes you. But the reason why men pay for the dates it’s because for a very very very very long time when women couldn’t do anything men would always take care of them by being the one who works making the women the prize but since all that’s changed and women are out here hiring and getting their money from actually working because you guys wanted it that way now men want a change why should we pay and take care of you when you work and make your own money now the games changed it’s 50/50 don’t cry because your ancestors marched for women’s rights honey
It's only a deal breaker if she asked me out and then expects me to pay. If I ask her, I'll pay because it was my idea
I always pay. I have always made money. I have also been married since 1988. My wife has paid at times, but I just add money to her account so she stays feeling good. I never worry about money.
Eon Drache I really hate femboys like you. Because you make things harder for real men.
Bro just man up and pay whoever asked who out doesn’t matter… just pay.
@@donaldgoodnight7853 that’s what’s up G
@@poisonivy6477 pay for whatm
He obviously cares, but he doesn't want to say he does because he's worried he'll get shamed for wanting it to be equal. His word choices "unfortunately" said it all.
Let’s be real here, as a man I’m always expected to pay theres honestly nothing I can do. Society will always have the same double standards no matter what even if both were rich. If I asked the woman to pay I’m seeing as an asshole. If I say “Let’s split the bill 50-50”, I’m seeing as a cheapskate. When a woman pays the bill, or says “let’s split it 50-50” she’s seen as kind hearted.
Of course that's the way it should be, since males *never* ask out women who they consider visually worse than themselves, even if it's just 0,1% "worse".
Yet the majority of women don't consider dates unless the male look attractive or are rich enough I fail to see how that's any different from Men
@@anyamiranda9452quit the yapping
You can't say unfortunately then also say you don't really care all in the same breath.
If he admits it high Chace of being mocked
Personally I hate the femboys nowadays that expect want women to pay because they make things harder for real men like me who want to pay for dates. It's all this alpha male red pill nonsense that is turning men into femboys.
Alpha males don't want to pay for dates, act like a woman isn't contributing if she doesn't have a job, refuse to get married and don't want to pay child support. Women really should stop wasting time with alpha males.
@@davidmacko983 shut up femboy.
Yeah you can. Its unfortunate that men have to pay the womans share. But he doesnt really care in that he accepts society isnt fair or equal- that women get what they want and men dont. Simple. He just accepts the inequality that men are bot treated fairly when it comes to dating
@u3962521 Correction: the 1-5% of women that most men find very hot get what they want. Just like the *men* in the same category get what they want. The only males that whine about this "being unfair" are "man0sphere" members who see themselves as waaaay more attractive than they actually are.
Personally, I always offer to cover the first date, even the first few if we click really well. It’s not a dealbreaker if the other party doesn’t pay for themselves or at least offer to per sé, it’s more of a point that will be saved for later consideration. Like how in point and click games have those small notifications that pop up in the corner of your screen when you interact with an object or NPC telling you that “This action could have consequences later on…”. Peoples’ actions are major indicators of their personality.
Basically if shes hot enough and might put out you'll pay
Keep being a free meal ticket
@@SeksolloguRevolucionar you’re mad because nobody would do the same for you. Boo hoo!
It should be 100/100
A deal breaker if she asked me out. If she wants to split, even if I asked her out, and is serious, who am I to say no? I'm all for equality and an independent woman.
If it's a first date and a guy ask a girl out he should pay because he's instigating the encounter. If a girl asks a guy out for the first time, she should pay because she's instigating the encounter. It should be the responsibility of who initiates. When a relationship forms, then start splitting bills.
What does it even mean to take someone out? Like I don’t understand this to be honest. It’s supposed to be a treat to show your romantic interest/affection. If you can’t afford it or feel some kind of weird way about it, pack a picnic and take the girl out to the park or lake. I “dated” a guy that wanted to go Dutch every time and every canned “date” was just a sit down restaurant meal. Finally I gave up and stopped seeing him because I felt like I was getting lunch with my brother. It’s not even the bill, it’s the effort.
Ya 50/50 is awesome! Get to do a lot more stuff.
Bro 😂
It's true though 😂
If you ask someone out or set up the date then you should be prepared to pay. Regardless of whether you are male or female.
Both eat both pay.
i don't think you gave him enough time to think his thoughts through
Whomever came up with the idea to go out should be the one to pay.
if women is jobless and not working or not making money then i will pay for everything.....trust me🤔
men always expect is women have not to be selfish like a gold digger.
Your voice is like Google maps😂
Her not offering to pay ss long as its eithin reason is not the deal-breaker what would be the deal-breaker as if she's ordering $20 glasses of wine the most expensive thing on the entree list appetizers if I see her order and all that if she doesn't ask to split the bill I will split it for her because I find that disrespectful when you're on somebody else's dime especially for the first time and you haven't earned the right to do that you don't do it
Ahe did not get it...
the issue isnt men paing the issue is a woman not offering.............guys care more about her effort and actions to show they care and offer and appreciate his time and money also
huge difference between expecting him to pay and appreciating him paying
Why do you equal not offering to pay with not appreciating his gesture? I would be beyond grateful if a man ever offered to buy me even a 2$ ice cream, since that has never happened, but I would *never* offer to pay because they'll happily take the offer in a second. Don't know about the US, but most males in my Eastern European country will do *anything* to get something for nothing.
Too many men like him who don't care UNFORTUNATELY.
I don't want a woman to pay for my dates. Seriously what's with all the femboys nowadays.
For real though. Got dudes here saying it’s 2023 and women should be asking the men out… wtaf
Just traditional double standards.
We noticed women in this generation atleast where I am living are not traditional nor do they follow any gender roles
So I think it's good for me to ditch all these expectations from society or male chivalry
What's wrong with that? My girl asked me out and paid. I still love her.
@@poisonivy6477I mean women have a voice and they're more than capable of doing it, you can't pick and choose when you want equality.
It appears that you're insecure in your masculinity if you define your manhood on who pays for the date
He has that alpha male vibe
Different between men and woman:
Man: yo wanna do somthing fun?
Man friend: Yea sure
Woman: wanna do somthing fun?
Woman friend: IDK maybe later oh no maybe in the weekends wait nvm? I can't go because my hair is messed up and plus i have drama with my family and i can't go...
Now you know the difference XD" I am not hating on woman I love woman my mom is a woman my sister is a woman my family have woman but it can be complicated sometimes because woman tend to drag their thoughts more then men would...
Guy should pay but she should at least offer to pay or at least say "Thank you for paying". If she doesn't, it means she's entitled/ungrateful and I won't contact her again.
I'd be beyond grateful, but *never* offer to pay, since in my country that's all he's waiting to hear (so he can save some cash completely guilt-free).
I’m not sure why men cry about paying for dates. Like the whole point of that societal expectation is that it helps bypass female sexu@l selection. Men paying for things was created by the patriarchy to help the average man secure a mate. If women were expected to “split the bill”, the average man would never get an opportunity to date. Women would choose to split the bill with “chads” (aka men she’s actually attracted to). Why complain about something that was made for your benefit? If you don’t want to pay then don’t date
There's no sense in this first comment unfortunately.
Men were very okay with paying for dates as society had set, till women started fighting for equal treatments and no gender roles.
I just lost brain cells reading this comment. So it is true that girls only go to so called Chads or in normal human terms "brain dead idiots" , then I say just say that all the time, instead of this bullshit of treat women with sweetness. All are faithless
Whose fantasy did i just read? You hv to be high af to write this😂
Sorry to spoil your horrible view on life and relationships because I’m sure no one likes you. But the reason why men pay for the dates it’s because for a very very very very long time when women couldn’t do anything men would always take care of them by being the one who works making the women the prize but since all that’s changed and women are out here hiring and getting their money from actually working because you guys wanted it that way now men want a change why should we pay and take care of you when you work and make your own money now the games changed it’s 50/50 don’t cry because your ancestors marched for women’s rights honey
it sucks i dont wanna pay every time everything.. why cant yall invite us?? i mean we are not in the 1900 anymore come on
Its a deal breaker and society expected a lot from women but they do not follow it
Wrong person to ask