This petite Hungarian rifle was a bit rough around the edges, so it seemed like a good idea to smooth out those edges a bit. The results weren't what I expected.
we had the same ones here in Australia i bought mine in about 1974 they were sold here under the brand name Telly. there were several different models including one with a longer cylinder in 22 there was also a couple of underlever ones. many of them had a second spring inside the main spring in an attempt to get more power. this didnt work that well as you still had the same cylinder volume. i still have mine about 40 years ago i put in a steel spring guide and polished all the piston surfaces and trigger sear . it shot a lot smoother and is surprisingly accurate. i still have it and it has had a lot of use.
I have my dads old .22 with the long barrel, and I always thought it was Jelly. I've seen someone post that he had one, on one of the forums. I can't find much info about these guns on the net.
I own a Relum Zodiac underlever made by the same Hungarian company. F.E.G. Relum was the name of the importers who brought them into the UK. Later on a new model appeared with a heavier stock. This was called the Tornado. But i prefered the slim stock of the earlier model. You did an excellent restoration job mate
I was just about to say the same. Looks to me to be a Relum Telly. I have its brother, the Relum tornado underlever. The spring setup is normally a pair together. One inside the other. The smaller diameter spring acts as a sping guide.
@@toxicliver Yes, I've seen the interesting smaller spring inside bigger spring setup before, perhaps the rifle in this video had the mainspring/s replaced previously which might explain it being so over-sprung although apparently they had too much spring from the factory to begin with.
I'm still trying to figure out how the "Marla" differs from the Relum Telly. The concentric springs certainly aren't on the Marla - which may have been a bare-bones model for the low budget market in Canada in its day.
@@canuckair That would be my guess as well. Sometimes manufacturers agree to produce rifles under a different brand for marketing purposes or have a sister company etc. There are all kinds of copies and prototype airguns out there too. It does look like a Relum Telly.
F.É.G. (Fegyver és Gázkészülékgyár) Típusa: LP-22 kis MARLA. 1960-1970 években gyártott légfegyver. Junior puska volt, ezzel oktatták a fiatalokat a lövészetre az iskolákban és az MHSZ keretein belül. (MHSZ = Magyar Honvédelmi Szövetség.) Érdekesség, hogy a fegyver egyes elemei fegyveracél minőségűek, például a hátsó irányzék, csőtőke csavar, az elsütőszerkezet összes alkatrésze és a dugattyú. A cső hidegen kovácsolt, a sütés hossza állítható a sátorvas első, rugóztatott csavarjánál, de sajnos még így is nagyon kemény az elsütés...! Érdekesség, hogy a lövedéket betöltés során nem egyből a huzagolásba helyezzük, hanem egy enyhén tölcséresre dörzsárazott részbe, így nem tud sérülni a lövedék. További érdekesség, hogy nemcsak 35 cm hosszúságú csővel szerelték, hanem 40 cm csővel is. Ennél a cső a csőtorkolat irányába fokozatosan vékonyodott. Továbbá készült a fent látható módon hornyolt bükkfa tusával és hornyolás nélkül is.
these guns were manufactured by FEG in Hungary sadly now defuncted. They made several break barrels looking much the same but in different sizes and underlevers on the Lincoln Jefferies pattern. They were sold to the west through companies like Relum and Telly and I assume Marla but never heard of Marla, these companies were set up to sell luxury goods to the west in order to provide the soviet union with hard currency. Back in the seventies I had a parts list for the gun in this video and like all it's stable mates it was twin springed. the spring you found in yours is not original the parts list show both springs and two spring guides a slim internal spring that ran up the inside of the inner spring from the cylinder end plug the second guide ran between the two springs inside the piston and was of a top hat design.pressed or rolled from shim steel. All these FEG airguns were hard to cock. Interestingly I have never found an FEG with the twin spring guides as described in the parts diagram. if anyone out there has one set up like that I would be pleased to hear. FEG eventually made their guns easier to cock and cheaper to make by doing away with the articulated cocking link and replacing with a pressed steel single piece affair. Spare parts can be purchased from Protec supplies in Sussex England Vic and Phil are very decent blokes and are happy to post and exchange bits if you have ordered wrongly, they have a parts list on their web site but if you cant see what you are looking for a quick chat on the phone might turn up trumps.
the rifle you just repaird in the uk was called a relum they also made the same rifle but underlever as a relum tornado, i noticed when you said it was cruntchy and hard to cock its because on the slode rail theres suppose to be a bit of bakerlite that runs along under the cylinder you should have noticed the metal to metal and score along cylnder
NIce outcome for first `go `round. Just a note I think that the ammunition you used first ``Geco`` is actually pronounced by most air gunners by saying the `G`as a hard G Geco pellets are made bu RUAG of Germany and are also known as RWS-Geco a well known and respected munitions manufacturer in Europe.
I wonder if the Relum and Marla rifles you have have had their original springs replaced, and that is why you find them over powered. I have a Relum Telly, and the original spring was a "spring in spring", or double spring, and was considerably less power than what you seem to have. The parts diagram for the gun also indicates a double spring. A single BSA meteor spring or Diana 24 spring are both often used as replacement.
Ive tried my best to find any info on mine to be able to fix the trigger but apparently im late to the party and might have caused more damage to it by throwing it arround With this said my buddy had a great experience with this thing before the trigger springs desintegrated and I got it for 5$ Do you have any other videos on this air rifle I was hoping to see how the trigger works
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Hi Ad the same in the 60s. It was called a Telly,,.177 ,,loved it,,,
Really excellent insight on airgun rebuilding and maintenance.
Thank you!!
Very nice job you have done 👍
we had the same ones here in Australia i bought mine in about 1974 they were sold here under the brand name Telly. there were several different models including one with a longer cylinder in 22 there was also a couple of underlever ones. many of them had a second spring inside the main spring in an attempt to get more power. this didnt work that well as you still had the same cylinder volume. i still have mine about 40 years ago i put in a steel spring guide and polished all the piston surfaces and trigger sear . it shot a lot smoother and is surprisingly accurate. i still have it and it has had a lot of use.
I have my dads old .22 with the long barrel, and I always thought it was Jelly. I've seen someone post that he had one, on one of the forums. I can't find much info about these guns on the net.
I own a Relum Zodiac underlever made by the same Hungarian company. F.E.G. Relum was the name of the importers who brought them into the UK. Later on a new model appeared with a heavier stock. This was called the Tornado. But i prefered the slim stock of the earlier model. You did an excellent restoration job mate
Also had a stamp of à crossbow on the barrell flat
I had one of those about forty years ago, it was stamped. Relum made in Hungary
It looks like a Relum which I believe were made in Hungary.
I was just about to say the same. Looks to me to be a Relum Telly. I have its brother, the Relum tornado underlever. The spring setup is normally a pair together. One inside the other. The smaller diameter spring acts as a sping guide.
@@toxicliver Yes, I've seen the interesting smaller spring inside bigger spring setup before, perhaps the rifle in this video had the mainspring/s replaced previously which might explain it being so over-sprung although apparently they had too much spring from the factory to begin with.
I'm still trying to figure out how the "Marla" differs from the Relum Telly. The concentric springs certainly aren't on the Marla - which may have been a bare-bones model for the low budget market in Canada in its day.
@@canuckair That would be my guess as well. Sometimes manufacturers agree to produce rifles under a different brand for marketing purposes or have a sister company etc. There are all kinds of copies and prototype airguns out there too. It does look like a Relum Telly.
@@canuckair I've tried for one year to identify this Canadian rifle myself... Just subscribed to your channel I need to watch this video 100%
F.É.G. (Fegyver és Gázkészülékgyár) Típusa: LP-22 kis MARLA. 1960-1970 években gyártott légfegyver. Junior puska volt, ezzel oktatták a fiatalokat a lövészetre az iskolákban és az MHSZ keretein belül. (MHSZ = Magyar Honvédelmi Szövetség.) Érdekesség, hogy a fegyver egyes elemei fegyveracél minőségűek, például a hátsó irányzék, csőtőke csavar, az elsütőszerkezet összes alkatrésze és a dugattyú. A cső hidegen kovácsolt, a sütés hossza állítható a sátorvas első, rugóztatott csavarjánál, de sajnos még így is nagyon kemény az elsütés...! Érdekesség, hogy a lövedéket betöltés során nem egyből a huzagolásba helyezzük, hanem egy enyhén tölcséresre dörzsárazott részbe, így nem tud sérülni a lövedék. További érdekesség, hogy nemcsak 35 cm hosszúságú csővel szerelték, hanem 40 cm csővel is. Ennél a cső a csőtorkolat irányába fokozatosan vékonyodott. Továbbá készült a fent látható módon hornyolt bükkfa tusával és hornyolás nélkül is.
these guns were manufactured by FEG in Hungary sadly now defuncted. They made several break barrels looking much the same but in different sizes and underlevers on the Lincoln Jefferies pattern. They were sold to the west through companies like Relum and Telly and I assume Marla but never heard of Marla, these companies were set up to sell luxury goods to the west in order to provide the soviet union with hard currency. Back in the seventies I had a parts list for the gun in this video and like all it's stable mates it was twin springed. the spring you found in yours is not original the parts list show both springs and two spring guides a slim internal spring that ran up the inside of the inner spring from the cylinder end plug the second guide ran between the two springs inside the piston and was of a top hat design.pressed or rolled from shim steel. All these FEG airguns were hard to cock. Interestingly I have never found an FEG with the twin spring guides as described in the parts diagram. if anyone out there has one set up like that I would be pleased to hear. FEG eventually made their guns easier to cock and cheaper to make by doing away with the articulated cocking link and replacing with a pressed steel single piece affair. Spare parts can be purchased from Protec supplies in Sussex England Vic and Phil are very decent blokes and are happy to post and exchange bits if you have ordered wrongly, they have a parts list on their web site but if you cant see what you are looking for a quick chat on the phone might turn up trumps.
the rifle you just repaird in the uk was called a relum they also made the same rifle but underlever as a relum tornado, i noticed when you said it was cruntchy and hard to cock its because on the slode rail theres suppose to be a bit of bakerlite that runs along under the cylinder you should have noticed the metal to metal and score along cylnder
My first gun 🇬🇧
Shortening the spring increases the spring rate which is why the velocity is higher - rookie mistake.
Nice work at supporting the spring better.
NIce outcome for first `go `round.
Just a note I think that the ammunition you used first ``Geco`` is actually pronounced by most air gunners by saying the `G`as a hard G Geco pellets are made bu RUAG of Germany and are also known as RWS-Geco a well known and respected munitions manufacturer in Europe.
I take your point. Around here, though, we avoid the hard "g" as it invites visits from annoying little lizards trying to sell insurance. 😀
I wonder if the Relum and Marla rifles you have have had their original springs replaced, and that is why you find them over powered. I have a Relum Telly, and the original spring was a "spring in spring", or double spring, and was considerably less power than what you seem to have. The parts diagram for the gun also indicates a double spring. A single BSA meteor spring or Diana 24 spring are both often used as replacement.
A bit too powerful huh ? Where are you in Canada ?
Ive tried my best to find any info on mine to be able to fix the trigger but apparently im late to the party and might have caused more damage to it by throwing it arround
With this said my buddy had a great experience with this thing before the trigger springs desintegrated and I got it for 5$
Do you have any other videos on this air rifle I was hoping to see how the trigger works
Pretty certain it was made by FEG.
A Teflon tube would help!
I think you will have to do a service on it every time you fire at least 100 pellets
And you will see the difference in speed ?
Put some grease in with the pellet
No
when i build a rifle i find it takes quite a few shots to settle in