New York, with a foldable 120 camera
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If you're manually advancing the film and using the numbers on the back paper, doesn't it automatically mean that you'll be taking 12 pictures per roll?
You only set the 1 with the back paper. The others need to be advanced with the wheel on top or it won’t fire. And the wheel only has 11 numbers. I should have shown the top wheel, now that I think of it!
Also, those ikontas use the numbers for 6*9 format, not for 6*6(the red window is not in the center)
EduardoPavezGoye - with a bit of practice you can roll a little further and trip the shutter from the tiny lever at the Compur shutter, where it links to the shutter release on top, might get some overlapping in the beginning but I even managed to squeeze out 13 frames occasionally.
I have shot 12 frames on mine since 2001! :D You can cheat by using the manual trigger near the lens rather than the shutter button on the camera after advancing beyond 11 frames. :)
@@reymdraws2556 Yep been doing that instead since I don't like the double exposure lock thingey.
Even though the city looked so busy with all the hustle and bustle the people out on the street seemed pretty chill and relaxed. Thanks for the video Ed!! Also great photos, loved the last photo of the guy with the camera. New York looks amazing
I’ve got a 1950s Super Ikonta A (645 format). The camera is fiddly to adjust for sure, but in “street” mode I use its red dot settings: hyperfocal focus, aperture ~f/9. All I have to set from frame to frame is the shutter speed. This works real well.
Always great videos. I am owner of a lot of these folding cameras in various formats. I love the historical steam locomotiv design . I love the time taking process of writing with light. And the results mostly are really awesome. But if needed, with a mindfully , mechanical sequence of steps it is possible to accelerate this job a lot.
Great bit of work…cool camera…this was photography for decades…it was good👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
It's actually insane watching this in 2021. I miss the old world so, so much...
Just got a 6 x 9 folding camera and damn it's light and portable for a huge negative!
All the pictures are Gold. Fantastic episode Eduardo.
Best analog photography youtube
The results from that Zeiss Tessar are stunning, that's reason enough to shoot it more! Folders will never be as quick to use as other cameras, but with familiarity you would improve your timing with the shutter release. I guess the best advice is to use it to its strengths, ask to take portraits (because it looks cool and will interest people) or set up a composition and wait for someone/ something to happen in it.
Absolutely great honest review like ALL your video's!
Always disregarded folding medium format cameras because they looked so dated (so I figured the photos would look the same.) Your videos on them definitely changed my mind!
Great video and cheers to coming out of hibernation, I know I needed to
The lens and the film make the image quality. The rest of the camera is just mounting and operator convenience.
Have the same model, it’s my favorite 120 camera. I probably shoot a roll a week in it.
I give you my like without even watching it. You're amazing!!
it's 12:23am and I'm super tired and about to go to bed and BOOM! Eduardo drops a vid.... no way i can sleep now, must watch..
Really emotional ! Your photos make me smile, thanks❤️
Boy, I wish someone like you would make a review of the 6x9 ikontas... Or of the Bessa II / Bessa RF (Ted Forbes did a few years ago, but he didn't shoot it like you do)
Love me some 120 💖
Gosh, you my new favorite channel on film photography especially focused on streetphotography!
Great photos! I had some difficulty using a similar super ikonta for street but you made it look easy haha
You're the man! I'm always excited to watch your new videos.
I was like this street walk very .... cool black and white photos :)
My first medium format camera was a Zeiss Ikonta 520/16 (1937-1939). It’s very close to the camera you have there with one difference: instead of the two finders, you only have a „sports finder“ and it was hilarious to compose with this tiny metal frame that would pop up by accident all the time. 😂
Needless to say that the shutter speed setting lock, focusing (using only a scale) and aperture ring setting was a super finicky, not to mention that you could barely see what your final composition will look like with this little metal frame. I don’t want to say that I loved it, but it was fun, really. The lens, however, was astonishingly sharp and quite good for an Anastigmat type lens.
Missed these type of videos!
Nice to see you back in the streets, good tempo! Your Super Ikonta is a very early model, should be around 1935, lens could be even older - actually, the harder to find version. So keep in mind this is twenty years older than your Mamiya! These were used a lot during the war by press and military photogs. Later ones had a single rangefinder/ viewfinder combo. Alfer the war coated, BX version will give you 12 shots. Had several different versions of this, kept the BX, because it has the best lens. Yes, I do find there is some inconsistencies in the lenses, and the BXs I had come closest to my Rolleiflex 2.8C‘ Planar. The exposure meter is big, true, but if it works, is very accurate (post war), similar to those on the Contax IIIa. There is a Contameter for close-ups and much nicer, there is a set of two close-up lenses made in England which offer rangefinder coupling. Hard to find tho.
Your photos are full of love between peoples! Love them!
You're always a good watch. I love these old folders.
Another great video. I will admit to being a little jealous that you have Acros in 120. I really miss that film.
Also have one of these, although mine is a 532/16 which has a coated lens. I also shot the 530 but the lens was very prone to flare, so I kept the 532, which also has just one finder with a coupled rangefinder, making it much quicker to shoot with! If it wasn't so damn heavy, I'd use it much more. My Agfa Isolette, however, is so much lighter, and its lens nearly as good as the Zeiss. The Isolette needs regular shooting or CLA though, which I do myself, otherwise the focus wheel will stiffen up. Note as well, that with these old rangefinders you almost certainly will have to adjust the rangefinder to achieve critical focus for the sharpest frames those pretty good lenses are able to resolve. The Isolette is much easier in that regard. The Super Ikonta is quite a hassle to adjust.
Great video as always!
If you're looking for a foldable 120 rangefinder, with a 2.8 lens, look for the Certo6. Really awesome camera. The focus is a lever, so the throw isn't super long like this camera.
I have a 532/16 -- similar camera, but with the RF patch in the main viewfinder. I modified the advance stop cam (under the top plate, below the advance knob) with a twelfth notch, and I get twelve on a roll. I do, however, have to start with the frame 1 number *barely* into the window, or the twelfth frame will run off the end of the film. No, this doesn't do anything good for collector value of the camera, but I got it (back in 2005) to use, not to look at or resell.
I also have a Mamiya Six, and it's replaced the Super Ikonta B in my regular usage -- IMO, the Zuiko lens is better than the 2.8/80 Tessar, and with film-plane focus with a thumbwheel on the back of the top cover, it's easier to focus than even a single-window Super Ikonta. Mine doesn't have a frame counter, but some versions did (those were too much money, though now that I have one, I might have to look for one that has it), and the last one had automatic shutter cocking as well (but gave up the dual format option).
Thanks for posting this Ed! For once, you’ve cooled my interest in a camera I wanted. Seems too fussy. Thanks for sparing me!
Those old folders from Zeiss and Agfa are amazing!!!! Creamy and classic look that gives the pics emotion. Great job! 3:55 is my favorite.
one of my fav vids on yt. thank you
All of these are good and really capture NYC well. Interesting camera for sure. RIP Acros.
Though I'm crazy for folders, I've almost given up taking photos of people with them. Very good for landscape, but that's about it
I bought a Mamiya 6 after watching your video about it. I've put a few rolls through it and I love the way they look. I find the focusing to be a bit fiddly since the patch is so small, but it's a fun camera to use!
You are amazing all the time thanks for video
Oh hadn't seen a vid from you in a while, great to see you back
I missed you videos so much, thank you for making time to shoot an episode, you're an inspiration to me. Keep up the great content
Thank you for appreciating my efforts in finding time for these episodes. It *really* means a lot.
Really loved this video, and I felt in love with this camera !
Nice one! Love those old folding cameras. I have a Franka, which is kinda similar to yours (no rangefinder, though). People say Leicas are quiet (and they are), but those old folders are the quietest cameras ever made!
I've a couple of Frankas. They're my favorites of the era all things considered. My Solida III does have a rangefinder, but it is not coupled to focus like on the Zeiss.
Great to see another video again! All the best to your academic mission’s also :)
I've always wondered about these cameras, Ed. Thanks for doing an in-depth review. The images look sharp!
Nice walk around, and some really nice shots considering the hustle-bustle. My favorite of this era, similar to the Zeiss-Ikon, is the Franka Solida III... the RF is uncoupled (some do not have a range-finder however), so you must find the range in that window then set focus directly on the lens, so I often just use scale-focus estimations. :) But it's a simpler, smaller, lighter folding camera than the Super Ikontas and the Schneider-Krueznach lens is to die for in my opinion; one of my favorites of all time.
Just got back from a trip to Shanghai. Was shooting my Agfa Super Isolette great little holding range finder for street. Get one from Certo6 like I did though.
Hi Ed! Nice and interesting work ... The Super Ikonta is a kind of "ideal travel camera"! I mean if you want beside your digital images also the analog look you can easily take this camera with you and you have it! Light, very compact, reliable ... you can take portraits, street, architecture ( limited by the fixed focal length ) and landscapes with only this camera ...
I've bought a Ikonta A and the manual says that the first shot must be taken when you see the letter "S" through the red window (not the number 1) and then you wind up the roll till you see the number 1 to take the second shot and so on. May be that 's why you take only 11 frames. Thank you for your videos
The Ikonta cameras, and even the Super Ikontas (except the model B) used a “red window” system of advancing the film. The Super Ikonta B had an automatic film counter, so that you used the red window to get to the first frame, then set the counter on the top which would then stop the film automatically when you wound it to the next frame. The frame counter only went to 11 to ensure that there wouldn’t be overlapping frames.
Excelente trabajo... Un admirador de tus videos desde Chile
These images are not razor sharp like leica or hassy standards, but that soft falloff from the subject to the out of focus areas look luscious and silky OMG!!! Peace from Manchester UK!!
Muy buenas fotos, creo que la cámara se presta más a una sesión de retrato planeada y tranquila, como las que has hecho con Ektachrome o con flash. Un gusto verte de nuevo, se extrañaban los videos
yay, a new EduardoPavezGoye video
Hey Eduardo, thanks for a great channel! I just want to let you know that everytime I take out a developed roll from the tank I yell "Pictures, man!" I ought to write on a t-shirt, come to think of it :-)
Kinda reminds me of MiNT Camera’s RF70 InstantKon Camera.
Thanks for that movie
Excellent photos! I always love the b&w photos taken by these old folders. They just have the better results than modern lenses. A little question here, do you what f-stop you mostly use for 120 and 135 street? They look amazing.
I shoot wide open whenever possible.
Good to see you back. Don't you think sometimes the challenges you have with one camera come also from shooting with so many different cameras? I have that exact same problem. You are never going back to the same stage of the camera's learning curve you left weeks or months ago.
If I was shooting a lot with such camera, to speed up focusing I may want to pre-zone focus first and for the shutter release, not being a Leica, I would assume after some use you would start pushing slightly stronger on that release.
Important to mention they are many variants of that camera with different lenses and some including a coupled range-finder which again would smooth things a bit.
Last point if I may, it would be interesting to see a color roll to see how that old lens performs. I have a 531/16 that I took to Istanbul with Provia, and that I need to get developed. It might not be the best street photography camera but a cool travel camera to bring around and shoot 120 film.
Con que facilidad conviertes una cámara lenta en su uso, en una veloz para pasar desapercibido. Excelente trabajo como siempre, y grandiosas fotos!
You should try out a Balda Super Baldax. I've got one with a f/2.9 lens and coupled rangefinder that's way faster than the Ikonta. It's got the same set to 1 and go frame counter but I don't trust that, I use the red window. It's got that crazy petzval-like look wide open and it's super sharp stopped down. I have a Franka Solida IIIe with the same lens with uncoupled (but super accurate) RF, they're pretty affordable and compact too.
Yay! Just what I needed!
Man I love acros! Too bad it's gone :(
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Hi..like allways ..great videos. Actually i bought a lomolca120 after seeing your video but now i plan to replace with a super ikonta 531/16. Do think that the 531/16 with coupled rangefinder would be easyer to shoot with than the one you show here?
Great episode! Do you prefer the Super Ikonta or the Mamiya Six folder? Keep up the good work!!
Mamiya Six!
Just found you ed you the man
EPG - go outside, take pictures and share your world with us!
Hola Eduardo, felicitaciones por los videos. Te descubrí hace un par de semana, así que estoy viendo dos o tres videos por día. Fijate si podés hacer una review de la Minolta Hi Matic 7 s. Es una cámara espectacular, de los años 70, pero quizás hoy sea difícil encontrar una en buenas condiciones. Un abrazo y felicitaciones desde Argentina!!
Very good contrast, I don't like milky B/Ws. Dose camera has a built in meter? Guess Not!
Buen Video y cambiaste de Espejuelos!
Eduardo, have you considered doing a shoot film episode with a fed 1/zorki 1 or a leica II?
“This camera is not for taking pictures of people moving in a fast-paced environment.”
British Army Film and Photographic Unit of WW2: “Really? Hold my tea.”
hahah. I mean, I have taken street photography pictures with 4x5 cameras. my point here is that if you are looking for a foldable rangefinder for street photography, this is not the best tool. You can get an old Mamiya Six foldable that will outshine this camera in the street photography department. :)
@@edpavez Maybe it's because I've used scale focus cameras so much (including for street photography) that the Super Ikonta cameras don't seem ill-suited for moving subjects. Admittedly, though, for those kinds of situations I usually shoot around f11 and use zone focusing even when the camera I'm using has a rangefinder, so that how fast the rangefinder can be focused becomes moot. (I agree, though, that the Mamiya SIx folder is an excellent camera in its own right.)
@@kennethdickinson2591 I love scale focusing too, but I try to shoot as wide open as possible. :)
I hesitated when I realised you used a roll of ACROS for this.
You must be mistaken. He clearly used a roll of ACROSS
Good you're making images and vids. You;re right - the 530/16 is not suited to street - portraits, landscapes etc. work. I own a BX/533 - 12 images, heavy, with a non-functioning selenium meter..(speeds 500,200,100,50,25,10,5,2,1, B). Thanks agin.
Did you try to use in-ear headphones during photo walks? Big cities can be overwhelmingly loud that takes away the fun from the process.
Great video, Eduardo. Thanks for putting this together, as I'm considering a purchase of a Zeiss Ikon Ikonta 521/16 camera.
Question: do you develop your images yourself, or do you get them done through a service?
awesome!👋🏻
That Spanish coming in clutch si señor
Nice video as always! Any plan to review the new Ricoh GR3? Or you are 100% analog now?
"I'll go outside more." He said just months before COVID-19 dropped...
Can you please review the Minolta Himatic 7sII or Konica Auto s3
Is that camera a 6x9 with a 6x6 mask? When I look for it on eBay the pictures of the inside film door show writing that says 6x9 or 2 1/4x 3 1/4.
Lol, but the vibe of this camera is the best
Which do you have more fun with Mamiya 6 Six Folder or this one.
Mamiya 6 Folder a million times over.
“My head is more in letters and concepts...” Well then, how about that vid on Hegel? You can switch continents but you can’t hide ;).
Oh I’ll do it as soon as I’m on vacations.
Notification squad
thanks, john frusciante
Those poor fools at 1:35 had no idea they were in the presence of greatness.
Too bad I actually know Eduardo in real life :/
@@trevorwisecup I'm sorry if my comment sounded mean-spirited. That wasn't my intention. I was trying to be funny. You guys are obviously not "poor fools" and Eduardo is obviously not "greatness." Oh shit, I did it again. ;) Seriously I enjoy Eduardo's videos and admire other street photographers such as yourself that he runs into.
Why not Zeiss Ikon Super Ikonta 532/16?
Because I don’t have one.
May I buy your camera? Cheers, from Australia.
what have you been writing? I'm curious!
Hi Eduardo if looking to sell that camera I would love to have it, been looking a folder camera like that for a while now, let me know just hit me up. I'm from Astoria NY
What you are mainly or firstly complaining about, the fine focusing that a longer travel distance and no be able anticipate the shutter opening, tell us two things;
You are using the wrong camera, with features others find beneficial, and you have barely used this camera enough to be familiar with its basic functions.
Shoot 25 rolls of film with it, or any other camera, in day to day use, and it will become second nature to your anatomical and mental capacities.
Fast is relative to the camera and the period during which it was made, and you need to "train-up" for cameras that are no as intuitive as more modern kit.
Buying old rangefinders in medium format is rarely, if ever, a one size fits all and until you take the decision to stick with a camera in a serious way, to actually learn it's operating routine, you will continue to be disappointed, and making reviews on the machine in which you've denied that simple learning process, you put off others that may find it superb in its operation.
IMO.
I have used this camera quite a bit and I still find it slow and uncomfortable, compared to other cameras from the same period. If you find it fast and amazing, that's great for you. That's not my case, therefore, it's not the opinion I give in this review. Cheers.
@@edpavez I have found the super Ikonta to be a deliberate camera, like the Hasselblad and other medium formats, no a 'fast' or speedy tool but quick enough in action and its use to do the job I ask of it.
Expectations that a camera will fill in for the work you are doing, rather than the work it was intended for, in both design and use, just sets you up for dissatisfaction and a negative point of view of it's action
@@eligriggs9221 sure. That’s the same reason I sold my Hasselblad 500c. I don’t like that style of shooting. They are slow cameras with long focus throw. Great for studio and deliberate pictures, but terrible for street -which is what I do and what the people who watch the channel are mostly into.
I have slow cameras (I shoot 4x5), but I don’t like slow medium format cameras. They are not my thing. :)
Ese speedbooster degrada demasiado la imagen :( lo noté altiro pensé que era algún lente Lomo o algo
No degrada la imagen. Mi lente 28mm es un poco borroso. Hahha
I dislike most photos with modern cars in them.
No, Thank you!
Marea horrible el movimiento de la camara!
why you laugh after mentioning you're a "fast focuser"? so looks even you are not convinced about that, lol!
You would get 12 pictures if you knew how to correctly load the film!,
no. the camera is designed to shoot only 11 frames, instead of 12.
When I came to New York I have found it's the only place I want to shoot street. I dont have a lot of experience. But I've shoot street in my cities of Minneapolis and St Paul, Chicago, LA Manhattan, Washington DC, Denver, and Souix City. By far Manhattan is my new photo mistress. I love the taste and photo smells in and around every corner. Btw love your videos. Very happy I found your channel.