Yeah, that's a really good idea. I purchase a white marker that's made for this purpose, but so far have only marked the wheel spacer bolts. I'm going to check and mark the others sometime this summer.
What exactly are you saying could have happened to me based on what you saw in the video? The front wheels were about an inch off the ground and I was never under the tractor. Update: I gave Ha Re a few days, but no reply. Perhaps he was talking about the point where I raised the loader to fill the front axle fluid? Not sure, because the front of the loader and bucket was completely out of frame, so he has no idea whether it was safely secured or not (it was). My thought is that if you see something that could be improved upon, post a constructive comment so we all can benefit. If you assume and post a condescending lecture-comment, then this is not the channel for you. Go post on social media with the others.
@@Redneck_Ed Well ED, you are free to live your life as close to the edge as possible, it's a free country after all, and tragic accidents always happen to the other guy true? but in the real world crap happens when you lest expect it, say you drop that socket and it rolls away, so you shimmy way underneath to retrieve it, now you are sideways in tight and the unthinkable happens and that two inches is enough to pin you to the floor, you panic, your breathing increases, now you can't breathe well, more panic sets in, you start to hyper ventilate now you become faint and start to turn blue, death becomes you in about six minutes, but hey what are a pair jack stands needed for? it was just two inches after all. I leave you with this little story, one day tom the 25 year mechanic rushed out with grease gun in hand to hit the front end of a GMC van of a glass company before the driver had to get going, tom crawls underneath the front all four tires on the ground and starts pumping the zirks, tom is in a tight space sideways, all of a sudden pop the bottom A arm separated and the van falls on tom, lucky for tom most all the drivers hadn't left yet when someone yelled the truck has tom pined in, ten guys literally picked the van off of tom and pulled him out, tom lived but suffered internal injuries that almost took his life. What happened? the ball joint was so worn all it took was the high pressure of the grease gun to make the joint fail (something that could have happened on the road) Tom was one of the lucky MF'ers others not so in my 30 years on a Truck company for a large city Fire Department. It only takes one time to take your life, That's why they call them "Safety stands" such a simple device that could make all the difference. any questions? ( no I don't live here on the internet anymore so timely replies don't come often, I am to busy enjoying retirement 😉
How's she goin'? Great to be getting the maintenance done eh. Like the guys says, "look after your tractor and your tractor will look after you"!!! It such a cliché but oh so true. Take care!!!
It is a cliché Mike, but it is absolutely true. I have learned a lot of good from my dad, but he was normally pretty rough on his equipment and never put tools back where he got them. Then when I was 15, my boss on the golf course taught me this saying and it has stuck with me ever since. Equipment is always going to break, but you need to take care of equipment and tools to keep the odds in your favor.
Nothing I feel confident in, but my best guess at this point is that the 4 does mean 4T, and the bolt I thought was a 6 was really a 9 which is 9T...which isn't listed in the toque table at all. Super confusing. 4T, 7T, and 9T (low carbon, high carbon, and alloy steel, respectively) seem to refer to bolt strength. I've settled on the idea that the best I can do is to make sure they are not obviously/visibly loose, but don't overtighten. Better to use a conservative torque setting than to overtighten and then break a bolt head off and make a big problem for yourself. You could also mark all of the bolts when the tractor is new and then you'll be able to visually see if they come loose. Critical ones that definitely came a bit loose on mine were the loader mounts. Second most critical, the transmission to frame bolts. All opinion here from an amateur so take it with a grain of salt.
That is a great question. I assumed everyone watched part 1, but that 5 gallon container was AGCO Permatran 821 XL as specified in my GC1723 manual. I have heard others say that the earlier GC series manuals spec'd 80 90 gear oil for the front axle and many have stated that they have switched to 80-90 because Permatran is too thin and eventually the front seals start to leak.
Great video Ed, But my dealer told me I only needed to change the engine oil/filter and grease at 50 hours. And of course check levels. Am I missing something. Still great information and video! I’m at 34 hours.
Check out my part 1 video here th-cam.com/video/gX0jtgu0fn8/w-d-xo.html . I hit 50 hours AND 1 year at the same time, so there is more to do at 1 year. I also recommend greasing more often than 50 hours. More like about every 10 to 20 hours depending on how much loader work you're doing during that time.
Note about the oil refill. DO NOT try to fill too fast or you end up with oil making it into the cylinders. Take it easy pouring that oil in!
After you tighten the bolts you should mark them with a permanent marker, so you'll know if they aren't holding.
Yeah, that's a really good idea. I purchase a white marker that's made for this purpose, but so far have only marked the wheel spacer bolts. I'm going to check and mark the others sometime this summer.
great vid but one needs to use safety stand's, hydro lines have been known to pop unexpectedly, that's why we don't walk under hydro attachments ect.
What exactly are you saying could have happened to me based on what you saw in the video? The front wheels were about an inch off the ground and I was never under the tractor. Update: I gave Ha Re a few days, but no reply. Perhaps he was talking about the point where I raised the loader to fill the front axle fluid? Not sure, because the front of the loader and bucket was completely out of frame, so he has no idea whether it was safely secured or not (it was). My thought is that if you see something that could be improved upon, post a constructive comment so we all can benefit. If you assume and post a condescending lecture-comment, then this is not the channel for you. Go post on social media with the others.
@@Redneck_Ed Well ED, you are free to live your life as close to the edge as possible, it's a free country after all, and tragic accidents always happen to the other guy true? but in the real world crap happens when you lest expect it, say you drop that socket and it rolls away, so you shimmy way underneath to retrieve it, now you are sideways in tight and the unthinkable happens and that two inches is enough to pin you to the floor, you panic, your breathing increases, now you can't breathe well, more panic sets in, you start to hyper ventilate now you become faint and start to turn blue, death becomes you in about six minutes, but hey what are a pair jack stands needed for? it was just two inches after all. I leave you with this little story, one day tom the 25 year mechanic rushed out with grease gun in hand to hit the front end of a GMC van of a glass company before the driver had to get going, tom crawls underneath the front all four tires on the ground and starts pumping the zirks, tom is in a tight space sideways, all of a sudden pop the bottom A arm separated and the van falls on tom, lucky for tom most all the drivers hadn't left yet when someone yelled the truck has tom pined in, ten guys literally picked the van off of tom and pulled him out, tom lived but suffered internal injuries that almost took his life. What happened? the ball joint was so worn all it took was the high pressure of the grease gun to make the joint fail (something that could have happened on the road) Tom was one of the lucky MF'ers others not so in my 30 years on a Truck company for a large city Fire Department. It only takes one time to take your life, That's why they call them "Safety stands" such a simple device that could make all the difference. any questions? ( no I don't live here on the internet anymore so timely replies don't come often, I am to busy enjoying retirement 😉
Nice video, Ed. I still need to switch my tractor over to summer use, and check the oil in the front axle. Thanks for sharing. - Rick
I'm sure you have no shortage of summer tractor projects.
How's she goin'? Great to be getting the maintenance done eh. Like the guys says, "look after your tractor and your tractor will look after you"!!! It such a cliché but oh so true. Take care!!!
It is a cliché Mike, but it is absolutely true. I have learned a lot of good from my dad, but he was normally pretty rough on his equipment and never put tools back where he got them. Then when I was 15, my boss on the golf course taught me this saying and it has stuck with me ever since. Equipment is always going to break, but you need to take care of equipment and tools to keep the odds in your favor.
Have you figured out what the 4T and 7T references are in the torque charts? I haven't come across that in the manual yet. Maybe I missed it.
Nothing I feel confident in, but my best guess at this point is that the 4 does mean 4T, and the bolt I thought was a 6 was really a 9 which is 9T...which isn't listed in the toque table at all. Super confusing. 4T, 7T, and 9T (low carbon, high carbon, and alloy steel, respectively) seem to refer to bolt strength. I've settled on the idea that the best I can do is to make sure they are not obviously/visibly loose, but don't overtighten. Better to use a conservative torque setting than to overtighten and then break a bolt head off and make a big problem for yourself. You could also mark all of the bolts when the tractor is new and then you'll be able to visually see if they come loose. Critical ones that definitely came a bit loose on mine were the loader mounts. Second most critical, the transmission to frame bolts. All opinion here from an amateur so take it with a grain of salt.
What kind of oil did you use for the front axle?
That is a great question. I assumed everyone watched part 1, but that 5 gallon container was AGCO Permatran 821 XL as specified in my GC1723 manual. I have heard others say that the earlier GC series manuals spec'd 80 90 gear oil for the front axle and many have stated that they have switched to 80-90 because Permatran is too thin and eventually the front seals start to leak.
Great video Ed,
But my dealer told me I only needed to change the engine oil/filter and grease at 50 hours. And of course check levels.
Am I missing something.
Still great information and video!
I’m at 34 hours.
Check out my part 1 video here th-cam.com/video/gX0jtgu0fn8/w-d-xo.html . I hit 50 hours AND 1 year at the same time, so there is more to do at 1 year. I also recommend greasing more often than 50 hours. More like about every 10 to 20 hours depending on how much loader work you're doing during that time.