**Follow the Twitch and Discord, where I stream and try to answer any questions you have! www.twitch.tv/safeontalk discord.gg/rAUaGrFsq3 Quick Notes: - You CAN do this without a headhunter. I am using MF gear, so I am naturally weaker, so the HH just makes it doable. If you are using a build without MF gear it is still profitable and fun to do this simple juicing. I was using this method with my CoC Ice Spear without MF gear and it was still very profitable - If 2 different colored wisps are together in a trail, 99% of the time that trail leads to a merchant - Many things are an "event" in the wildwood (Tablets you can read is an event for example) - You can use the Abyss Charged Compass/Sextant. Especially if you are map sustaining you are putting in 1 watchstone with cemetery so you can throw it on that.
When im just doing mesa or tropical island for maps I dont waste my time forcing abyss. I just do it if it comes upp and do the map as quickly as possible @@gamezerge1229
i always thought that having a chance for abyss or any other mechanic means that u can potentially have a chance for an additional abyss to spawn, beside the ones you force... am i correct?@@safeontalk
Remember guys, if you’re not having fun, you are not farming well. The beauty of this game is being able to farm whatever mechanic you enjoy. Don’t fall for the trap of uber min maxed farming at the cost of you enjoying the game
Of course. People forget that if they will be doing things they dont like but they are the most profit, they will end league fast. Im farming blights, expedition, im doing one map over 5 minutes but im having fun. League lasts 3 months and many ppl are exhausted after 2 weeks.
I'm the kind of guy to avoid the top meta strats, and do things my way, and this is exactly what I love PoE for - sure I won't make the BIGGEST amount of money per time spent, but if I do my stuff corrently I can still make plenty
problem is such OP and twisted builds and strategies makes 90% of playerbase to wonder they act 100% wrong, not being motivated to improve this is meme "I am getting laid on the baily basis, why are you still single mate?"
@@skrecu2 Main problem is that people are not willing to improve, most just want cheap solution to get rich quick so meme is correct, they are doomed from the start to finish.
Well said. The final goal of the game is to have fun. If you're miserable, the game feels like work and your build isn't fun, it doesn't really matter how much profit you're making. ... Unless your goal is just the profit, but in that case getting that profit probably wouldn't feel miserable in the first place and the point is moot. :D
Thank you for making the videos you do, as a newer PoE player, I feel like most content creators out there "say" they create beginner content, but assume a vast baseline of PoE knowledge. The no nonsense way you make things clear and provide answers before i even ask questions is so helpful.
This is perfect for returning players and new players alike. Well explained and basically shown how realistic it is for regular players to juice a map.
Your channel should be way bigger dude. Love how your videos cater to us less experienced players. I may have 1000+ hours but i still feel like a noob lol you've helped a lot forreal
Bro, great video and thank you for the approach you took. A lot of the time the average player can't follow "big streamer strats" because you need the currency or Uber builds to do it. As an average player I want to say thank you for making this easy for us. Video was well done and easy to follow. Two thumbs up 👍👍
Found your video yesterday and started doing what you did. Got a HH drop just a few minutes ago! Thank you for a very beginner friendly explaination. You deserve a sub dude.
@@biduMandias dude wtf if you do it right you can at least sustain the investment. I got about a div in about 4 maps. The key is how you run the wood to get the juice.
All of the youtube i watched this is the best video. You really showed your way the other just talking and talking bit not showing the way. Thanks a bunch! Really helped
A very reasonable well presented guide. Certainly addresses the anxiety some of us have over whether or not we are getting the most out of our gaming. I often use Stream of Consciousness and farm Harvest and Expedition early League which is not optimized at all, but I get a bunch of Divines after some hours and the whole deal is very chill and low stress, which I enjoy. Once I get to fully juicing, I generally don't enjoy the hassle of trading for map mats, trying to go as fast af, and worrying about every little detail. Thanks for presenting an alternative to trying to keep up with the meta streamers. Liked and subbed.
Thank you for explaining this like I don't know what I;m doing, cause I don't. First explanation I got that actually worked. Got 3 Divs first map doing it.
Hi first time viewer, but now subbed, just wanted to say thank you. You are the first person who has made a video actually saying and showing what the hell a stygian tower actually is, I had seen them in the depths but didn't know what the strat everyone was going on about.
Regardless if this wasn't min maxed. The loot itself is insane especially for someone running it solo. On regular leagues, this amount of loot requires an entire party.
Man I've only been playing a month but have been so lost in the end game. I had cleared all maps 1-16 but had no clue what to do so I could earn some currency. I tried this out today and I'm loving it. Making way more than I did farming sacred grove. I still struggle in the wildwood as I used to avoid it but I think I'll get the hang of it as I push on more. Thank you!
I follow thos guy sincr last league and yes he is amazing. Especially because he s so good to explain to us beginners and seems to always find alternative ways to make currency. Ty for your hardwork. We newbies rlly appreciate it
Love these styles of videos. There definitely needs to be more casual style mid to low investment strat guides like these. I wanna try this after I get my fill farming Harvest/Harbinger cause I enjoy that so much. Haven't tried Abyss but this seems like the perfect league for that!
Love your videos, this game can get a bit overwhelming at times and you keep it simple. Your strat for farming harvest and deli and just bulk selling is my go to every league since I watched that video and you've made the game so much more fun for me. Can afford to try lots of different builds I never could before.
great video you really the only one who made those kind of beginner friendly guides. Those are the best i think because this is where we need help, the high end stuff we will figure it out by ourself whe we have 1k hours
TLDR: 1. Atlas Passives: wandering path, seventh gate, item quant and map modifier nodes. small abyss modes. 2. Pick 2 adjacent maps you like to do and favourite them. T7+. 3. Chisel them while white 4. Alch/Scour/Chaos until +Proj and no build-breaking mods. 5. Put in map, gilded abyss scarabs, and pay 2c for abyss map mod. 6. Do wisps, do abyss, kill spires slowly (wait for them to spawn rare monsters between each phase).
Basically what you're saying and showing in this video is turning profit while enjoying the content you're running, is the key to playing this game. Optimization comes down to whether or not you're having fun, while making money. Not like it's a job. More or less. Much love.
Was tired of paying 1d for 3 abyss scarabs. Ima nub and didnt kno i could roll the 50 some bullshit ones i had for cheap purple juice.. thank you i made more in 3 maps than i did in the past 3 weeks almost just from this vid.
nice vid :) btw this is doable on a much much lower budget. I'm a PF with lightning coil/taste of hate/defiance of destiny, and rest is MF gear (Goratha's spec) maybe ~20 div total for entire gear. I can stand in the middle of a dozen abyss rares with beyond/deli and never die as long as i can attack & leech. Dps is of course not super high, but its more than enough for T7 cemetery even with 8k juice.
Im usually end with league in 3 weeks with 40/40 trophy but this league is fun since you can abuse wisps mechanic to have insane loots in maps. Loots is what make my game enjoyable 😊
Remember if your are doing this strategy go to the graphics tab scroll to the bottom to advanced settings and enable dynamic culling, dynamic resolution, target frame rate set 30 to 60. This will ensure the game scales the resolution down when in intense settings such as this as well removes non-essential particles preventing full lock ups.
You should be using driver forced fps cap not in game, and unless your PC is a potato, you shouldnt have an issue. 30-60fps would make for terrible input latency. Dynamic culling is good though.
@@insertnamehere4419 FPS limiting and target frame rate are not the same, it works with dynamic resolution if your fps drops below the target amount it downscales the resolution of objects to improve fps.
I really enjoyed the video and it def. Made me sub. I’m with you on this , fun and enjoyment over anything else . I’ve ruined other games min maxing , number chasing , and meta farming. I fell for the trap which is “ I suck at a VIDEO GAME …. If I don’t have this …..” etc. keep it up . Love the attitude. Also fuck that head hunter.
15th map trying this strat without MF (wish i read before and looked at the gear...i just assumed it was without MF because of the "new player friendly" in the title) got close to nothing...barely breaking even with the odd card that drops (I'm chaos rolling to get projectiles but sometimes can be more than 10c a map). Sometimes i kill the spires early and thats my bad...but even when they release loads of mobs i don't get much at all :/
Followed this guide with no magic find gear at all, playing explosive trap. Have run 3 maps, no rips. A div drop each map. 100 times better than what I was doing before.
I have run the same strat for 5 maps, and have nothing of substance... spent more on scarabs and chaos rolling proj+mods I can run than getting loot from maps.... idk what im doing wrong. I get like 2k wisp average, maybe that? 😪
@@xHyzer 3k wisps is where the loot gets really good. Blue >> Purple >> Yellow, make sure you don't kill the spire too quick since it shoots out monsters at 100% and
you know? I watched a lot of videos on how to get div orbs, but I didn't understand much... your explanation is easy to understand for me who is new player
2nd league that I've played. Still so much to learn, and the meta is a bit overwhelming. Your del and harvest Strat has been great for me as I learn and progress
Enjoy the fact that high tier uniques are the cheapest they have ever been ! Arakali's Fang + Squire usually is 40 div, but this league it is only 2 div.
funnily enough, i spent a bunch of divs juicing cemetary maps to make barely any profit... ran a few unjuiced and got back to back 5div divination card drops... my currency conversion procs are always stacks of alts too... unlike these div stack drops i see on the strat videos from other people. never seen a good unique there either! i have defo found unjuiced or 1 scarab/sextant maps to be quick and profitable.
as a noob i use blacksmiths stones ... i give them high loot tier so they are seen on minimap... than i drop 1 where i spawn and run to the corner of the map and drop another one to see what my map looks like ... its helps alot... and tnx for video
Thanks for the good video. This was one of the few ones which actually made some sense for a beginner and didn't refer to something I haven't slightest idea what it meant. I've been struggling with currency from beginning and I know there's something fundamental wrong with my setup or playstyle, but haven't been able to figure out what. The problem is, I get practically no useful drops, no matter what I do, harbinger, harvest, delirium or such. I have tried everything. I practically do what you told, chisel map into 20% and make it unique and then find as much wisps as possible. I'm at level 91 with most of my Atlas revealed. I can easily run tier 16 corrupted rare maps and up to tier 8 with 6k wisps. However, I mostly get only 1 to 2c worth of drops per map. No currency and practically no gear with useful stats. My wealth has come mainly from occasional higher value drops, harvest and during the better period, which I had from christmas up to recently. My total worth is 13divs with about 8 days on my game clock. It was less than 1div on 5 days In my best times, I was able to get 2k-6k juice from the maps and around 30c average currency. Now it has dropped back to few c and getting 2k if wisps is rare. There's just mostly nothing, and even finding a trail and following it across the area gives only about 1000. Wisp situation seems to be a bit better on higher tier maps, but if I can get lots of juice from tier 12, I can't handle it. Some days ago I still got juice from tier 6-8, but not anymore. Everyone is saying it shouldn't matter, but for me it does. I'm using an atlas tree from fizz's build guide, and it should be fine. In it's way it is, since I get lots of map and different content. The problem is drops. I get 0-2 essences from essence events, 0-4 oils from blight, and from exploration, mostly nothing that would show throw loot filter. It seems that in POE, 20% more don't be what it sounds like but it's added 20% on top of some unknown base percentage, which in my case, for some reason is negative. For example, I had and still have some some unexplored maps in my atlas, because they just refused to drop. Connected maps didn't drop any maps no matter how long I run them. I find recently that if I add 20% increased drop change scarab on those maps, I get lots of connected maps instead of 20% more than nothing Propably I have similar problem with the base percentage of my currency drops and such, so adding multipliers like wisps or fragments or chisels don't help much. I just don't have any idea what could cause it and how to fix it. Right now, I'm running out of chisels, because I get one from maybe one fourth or fifth maps, and I'd need four per map. I haven't done map rolling, so I run them all. Mostly because I still can't say what is a good map or not. Percentages tell something, but there's much bigger variation from unknown factors.With my current income rate, using chaos orbs to roll the maps would severely affect on my income. Without random 30-150c drops, I'd have no possibility to continue, and I can't predict when they come, so better try everything. I have got 4 divs during the entire game, so it's big portion of my worth. Experimental harvest in wildwood gives me around 500 life force, so propably that one don't suffer from this weird nerf disease.
I struggle with consistent wisp rate the most. Done some testing and it is by far the most important part when it comes to mapping, I didn‘t believe it at first..
@@mettdamon6024 Yes. That has been very obvious for me. Without wisps, no drops. However, even with some wisps, I haven't got anything in past week. However, yesterday something changed, and I made about 6 divs worth of income in 4 hours. I got 3 divs from consequent maps, and other drops were at least order if magnitude better than before. 6k wisps were back, instead of
@@itzbigchicano001 Things did change when I got couple of voidstones, had my atlas fully filled, and made some changes in my atlas tree, but fundamental problem still exists. My savior was kind of counter intuitive, and I find it buy accident when leveling up avoiding possibility to die. When I run tier 16 maps, I need to use four chisels to raise quality and 3 scarabs on map device, but not use alc. With this, most of the drops are currency, and not much useless gear, what it is if I use alc. If I get 5k+ wisps, preferably as much cyan as possible, and maybe some yellow, I get big profits. My currency worth is now about 120divines and 30 divines on my gear. I have get it mostly from random high value drops like Einhart's memories, which I have sold 10-20 divines, random divine drops and stuff I have got from Aul. They sell between 2-4 divines. I also got one Brothers gift. Good fortune seems to come in periods, and when the flux is on, I have made around 10-20divs per hour. Then there can be several days with no more than 0.5-1div/hour. I have improved my gear and tried to run corrupted 8-modifier tier16 maps, with sextants and all scarabs. I use lots of abyses, since they seems to give best drops. With over 5k wisps, those typically become hard, but haven't get more currency than from juiced plain maps. However, those takes much longer to run, partly because increased difficulty, but mostly because there will be so much items like rings, belts, boots and armor, which are shown as a high value on my loot filter, and even more unique ones, which I can't stop checking. I haven't find good loot filter to leave them out, and wouldn't like to miss, if I find something valuable. Once I spent 40min on 8k wisp map. 15min to clear it and 25mins to get through the loot. The total value was a bit over 1div, since there was very little currency and so much worthless stuff. Sometimes I have get something, which seems to have value around 100c or maybe even few divs, but they never sell, even if I drop the price less than tenth. Usually I sell them to vendors to free up space.
Hi thanks for the video. Appreciate your take on it. Is there a reason why you don't take the 3 delirium points for chance of the mirror spawning ? Since you take the lower ones it might just be a mistake. Just wanted to point it out if it needs to be corrected so people will see more deli as well. With those 3 points + wandering path you go from 24% to a whooping 48% chance to spawn deli
I tried about a dozen times. I could never replicate these kinds of results. How often are you getting loot explosions like this? Pretty impressive man. I'm 3200 hours in and have yet to see a map with multiple divines in it. I'm about to get all over this strat.
i farm 1 gildead abys 1 ghilded reli for better conversions on gooblins 1 polish strong box 1 harbinger ,cheep sextants 25 magic pack size 6-8c,altas 4-5 c,sb coruppted 6-8 c ,map quality to rarity 4-6 c ,beyond on machine 5 c , 40 maps setup usualy 10-13 div last setup whas 12.3 div a map proffit usualy 3 maps per hrs so anywhere around 35-40 div/h t16 maps btw 72 quant 384 rarity penanace brand with 40k hit pul + for easy clear when laggy
about the widescreen issue that you are having...try hitting "keeep changes" ann then "save" on the bottom left or else it will revert i think i was having the same issue, this fixed it.
Like always its nice that z keep it as simple as possible. I want to get the atlas completed this league completly for the first time. So i am just using ur strat with the ehhh forget the name. The boss invites u get while clearing maps from t9 on. The thing u need to click in the map device beside the maven stuff.
You had me at the beginning but as soon as you said abyss… no thnx. It def is a great strategy but it’s a small variation from what others show. I subbed anyways because you have good insight! Thank you
I saw a patch come out today saying The "Additional Monster Projectiles" Private League modifier no longer causes Stygian Spires to fire additional projectiles. This modifier is once again available when creating a new Private League, and existing Private Leagues with this modifier will have this re-enabled shortly after this patch is deployed". What does this mean?
I ran blight all day yesterday, some decent divines dropped. BUT I did notice using silver oils for + 80% quantity seemed like a huge waste of time. got my quant up to 215% and didn't notice any difference at all. My biggest issue is actually just running out of sacrifice fragments.
i have 55 quant and almost 260 rarity and im running all the scarabs and sextants and getting like 5-8 wips and still just not seeing the reults. ive ran over 100 cemetary maps and have had like 10 raw divine drop total and 1 scarab explosion and 1 hinekoras lock (which is insane) but outside of that not really anything. even doing the spire correctly and just not seeing very good results. i think ive had a divine drop in 15-20 maps. i don't really understand why. im really more curious as to why i see like no scarbs drops at all. i cant think of anything im doing wrong.
I'm a new player...... I'm not sure why people say this game is hard to figure out. There's alot going on, but it all makes sense. I'm loving the crafting and everything. So nice to play a game with substance.
Hi there. Thanks for the video. Great content? Quick question. I have copied your atlas tree (although put more points into legion rather than delirium) I use the T7 maps with proj and gilded abyss scarabs and even a bit more. Also use abyss compass. I have done 10 maps so far and have yet to see a single divine drop. Am I doing something wrong or just unlucky? Granted I don't have 7k whisp runs but 2-4k average. I don't run MF gear but is that really what makes the strat? Or am I simply unlucky? xD Thanks!
@@NFG_Freakz So a couple things to note from your comments. For one, practice woods to get more wisps. That's the first step. 2nd, you said dropping one div made back what you put in for 17 maps. Which tells me you didn't put in much. Want big profit like you see on peoples videos? You need to run more juice. All gilded scarabs at minimum. And he says no beyond in video, but im here to tell you beyond is insanely profitable. Can't even begin to count how many divines and scarab explosions came from beyond mobs. So tdlr: 1 divine investment for 17 maps and little wisps will not equal a big farm. Practice woods in Desecrated Chambers A10 for even like 30 minutes and you'll see improvement. From there, take 20-30 div and buy sets of gilded+ scarabs and sextants, and run your maps. You'll have to seriously do something wrong to not make profit at that point. Also one last note, T11 burial chambers feels amazing compared to T7 cemetery if you can handle it. Fortunates drop left and right and will just about pay for your investment alone, and valdo's drop often enough at almost 3div per.
@@blobweird123 That's all well and good and it makes sense but it kinda defeats the whole purpose of this video. The whole point was to not go out of your way to buy a bunch of juice and having MF gear. The idea was with the atlas tree he presents and only gilde abyss scarabs and whatever else you want to put in( which I have been using) you should be just fine. I have been putting a bit more currency into the runs than the 1 div, That was just buying scarabs. I haven been running the plus 2 proj T7 cemeteries with gilded abyss, gilded div and gilded reliquary. Then paired with abyss map craft and abyss compass. I have now done a total of 20-22 maps and have 3 div drops and a couple of reliquary keys. Those runs have been with a minimum of 3k wisps, often more. I'm honestly not that keen on spending a bunch of time to optimize the big streamer farm. Like his video suggests, it doesn't have to be that complicated and clearly he's doing fine. Even with that showcase map (granted that was ofc with 7k wisps and MF gear). I might check out running T11 burial instead though. Thanks for that heads up :)
Thanks for the video,, but it's miss-leading you wrote that this can be played without MF and still be profitable but this is not true, i tried T16's and 7's with juice but its not profitable at all, i got only useless currencies like orb of alterations.
Hey hey, Awesome video first of all. I have a question though regarding the maps, you used 7 Cemetery, but I only have T5 Cemetery. Am I missing a mechanic? I see you also have 10 different T7 maps, but in my list I only have 7 different T7 maps. Trying to figure out why there is a difference. Any ideas?
Do you guys hit the deli thing before going into the wildwood or after when you return to the map? I usually hit it after the wildwood. Should I hit it first?
I am really enjoying your energy on this video. :) This is precisely the sort of thing I was looking for -- I wanted to use the league mechanic and test my character againt it, but didn't want to invest a ton in each map. Have you tried using anything other than abyss to get lots of rares to go with the league mechanic? Maybe tormented spirits? Rogue exiles? Ritual?
Ritual is good. If you arent confident in your build than delirium and beyond can be RIPpy Tormented spirits might be how people are getting the crazy pops, although id be nervous to run into a possessed triple empowered monster hahah
I am playing DD and I have to be so careful to keep the spire alive. my ignites just decimate it if im not careful, any tips or should I do another atlas path?
I swapped to this, was getting very low profit, 30c each map average with no "tinks" counted. and about the tinks, they´re so rare for me, maybe a tink every 10 maps. I´m still learning and getting better farming the wisps, and feel like I can increase it way more if I get better, i usually get 2.5-5.5k wisps maybe for this strat to be lucrative you need 7000+ wisps or mf gear But hey, it´s my 2nd league im a noob
The amount of wisps i got when i recorded was pretty high, not every map is that lucrative, but 30c seems super low so I think there must be something else going on with how youre runnin it
Hey. What am i doing wrong ? I can gather like 5-6k wisps at max...when i'm lucky. You wisp counter goes 5x faster ? How ? I'm giving up slowly. Done over 100maps and my drop is 3 Div and fev Ex. Got Goratha tree, i use scarabs and fragments. +2 and chis of course. My screen is usualy full of low tier uniques...but no divines. Heeelp !
That was a pretty lucky wisp run in the video. Just happened to be a good one when I recorded it. The blue wisps are the currency wisps so if you have a choice on a color trail to follow and you see blue you might want to focus on blue. Getting purple and blue seems to be the best combo for this strat.
hi friend, I found you by chance and it was lucky.. You explain a lot of very useful things!! and I'm learning a lot from your videos! But by any chance could you make a video where you explain what equipment to start the magic find with to take advantage of this strategy? bcs i farming right now essences with Tornado shot .. but i dont know if its good to change and try this for do more money,with little budget or continue farm essence.. and wait to take more gear..
getting a tornado shot MF to feel good is one of the most expensive builds in the game, which does stink. If you are set on juicing you might just want to do it with a build WITHOUT the magic find for a little while, its still very profitable!
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Quick Notes:
- You CAN do this without a headhunter. I am using MF gear, so I am naturally weaker, so the HH just makes it doable. If you are using a build without MF gear it is still profitable and fun to do this simple juicing. I was using this method with my CoC Ice Spear without MF gear and it was still very profitable
- If 2 different colored wisps are together in a trail, 99% of the time that trail leads to a merchant
- Many things are an "event" in the wildwood (Tablets you can read is an event for example)
- You can use the Abyss Charged Compass/Sextant. Especially if you are map sustaining you are putting in 1 watchstone with cemetery so you can throw it on that.
How come you waste points into abyss chance when you force abyss with the map device?
When im just doing mesa or tropical island for maps I dont waste my time forcing abyss. I just do it if it comes upp and do the map as quickly as possible @@gamezerge1229
i always thought that having a chance for abyss or any other mechanic means that u can potentially have a chance for an additional abyss to spawn, beside the ones you force... am i correct?@@safeontalk
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Remember guys, if you’re not having fun, you are not farming well. The beauty of this game is being able to farm whatever mechanic you enjoy. Don’t fall for the trap of uber min maxed farming at the cost of you enjoying the game
Of course. People forget that if they will be doing things they dont like but they are the most profit, they will end league fast. Im farming blights, expedition, im doing one map over 5 minutes but im having fun. League lasts 3 months and many ppl are exhausted after 2 weeks.
I'm the kind of guy to avoid the top meta strats, and do things my way, and this is exactly what I love PoE for - sure I won't make the BIGGEST amount of money per time spent, but if I do my stuff corrently I can still make plenty
problem is such OP and twisted builds and strategies makes 90% of playerbase to wonder they act 100% wrong, not being motivated to improve
this is meme "I am getting laid on the baily basis, why are you still single mate?"
@@skrecu2 Main problem is that people are not willing to improve, most just want cheap solution to get rich quick so meme is correct, they are doomed from the start to finish.
Well said. The final goal of the game is to have fun. If you're miserable, the game feels like work and your build isn't fun, it doesn't really matter how much profit you're making.
... Unless your goal is just the profit, but in that case getting that profit probably wouldn't feel miserable in the first place and the point is moot. :D
Thank you for making the videos you do, as a newer PoE player, I feel like most content creators out there "say" they create beginner content, but assume a vast baseline of PoE knowledge. The no nonsense way you make things clear and provide answers before i even ask questions is so helpful.
This is perfect for returning players and new players alike. Well explained and basically shown how realistic it is for regular players to juice a map.
thanks for telling people that are not so good how to simply understand the strategies
Your channel should be way bigger dude. Love how your videos cater to us less experienced players. I may have 1000+ hours but i still feel like a noob lol you've helped a lot forreal
Finally somebody who gets how new players feel! Appreciate you !
Bro, great video and thank you for the approach you took. A lot of the time the average player can't follow "big streamer strats" because you need the currency or Uber builds to do it. As an average player I want to say thank you for making this easy for us. Video was well done and easy to follow. Two thumbs up 👍👍
Found your video yesterday and started doing what you did. Got a HH drop just a few minutes ago! Thank you for a very beginner friendly explaination. You deserve a sub dude.
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@@biduMandias dude wtf if you do it right you can at least sustain the investment. I got about a div in about 4 maps.
The key is how you run the wood to get the juice.
All of the youtube i watched this is the best video. You really showed your way the other just talking and talking bit not showing the way. Thanks a bunch! Really helped
A very reasonable well presented guide. Certainly addresses the anxiety some of us have over whether or not we are getting the most out of our gaming. I often use Stream of Consciousness and farm Harvest and Expedition early League which is not optimized at all, but I get a bunch of Divines after some hours and the whole deal is very chill and low stress, which I enjoy. Once I get to fully juicing, I generally don't enjoy the hassle of trading for map mats, trying to go as fast af, and worrying about every little detail. Thanks for presenting an alternative to trying to keep up with the meta streamers.
Liked and subbed.
Very well explained for the less expert players (like me). Thank you and instant sub.
Thank you for explaining this like I don't know what I;m doing, cause I don't. First explanation I got that actually worked. Got 3 Divs first map doing it.
Hi first time viewer, but now subbed, just wanted to say thank you. You are the first person who has made a video actually saying and showing what the hell a stygian tower actually is, I had seen them in the depths but didn't know what the strat everyone was going on about.
thank you for this guide, as a beginner i really need to understand the very basic on how juiced maps work
Regardless if this wasn't min maxed. The loot itself is insane especially for someone running it solo. On regular leagues, this amount of loot requires an entire party.
Love this guide... made 10 div in a week. 10 more div than I have ever league quit and come back and quick. It was fun too
Daamn as a new player who got to tier 12 maps I thank you with my heart!
Man I've only been playing a month but have been so lost in the end game. I had cleared all maps 1-16 but had no clue what to do so I could earn some currency. I tried this out today and I'm loving it. Making way more than I did farming sacred grove. I still struggle in the wildwood as I used to avoid it but I think I'll get the hang of it as I push on more. Thank you!
I follow thos guy sincr last league and yes he is amazing. Especially because he s so good to explain to us beginners and seems to always find alternative ways to make currency. Ty for your hardwork. We newbies rlly appreciate it
Love your content. You really should focus on PoE only and post more regularly. One of the most underrated content creators this community has imho.
This was so helpful, been doing it for a day, and picked up some finer things from your vid
Thanks for this man, I'm tired of watching videos from peeps that play 11 hours a day. I get maybe 60 mins a day with my kids and job to play.
The fomo is real
Love these styles of videos. There definitely needs to be more casual style mid to low investment strat guides like these. I wanna try this after I get my fill farming Harvest/Harbinger cause I enjoy that so much. Haven't tried Abyss but this seems like the perfect league for that!
Love your videos, this game can get a bit overwhelming at times and you keep it simple. Your strat for farming harvest and deli and just bulk selling is my go to every league since I watched that video and you've made the game so much more fun for me. Can afford to try lots of different builds I never could before.
Easy to understand, goes over the basic stuff and straight to the point. Thank you 👍
everytime i see you folks getting such insane amount of wisps i know we are playing different games
"you're going to screw this up too" Truer words have never been spoken lol
great video you really the only one who made those kind of beginner friendly guides. Those are the best i think because this is where we need help, the high end stuff we will figure it out by ourself whe we have 1k hours
Well said!
TLDR:
1. Atlas Passives: wandering path, seventh gate, item quant and map modifier nodes. small abyss modes.
2. Pick 2 adjacent maps you like to do and favourite them. T7+.
3. Chisel them while white
4. Alch/Scour/Chaos until +Proj and no build-breaking mods.
5. Put in map, gilded abyss scarabs, and pay 2c for abyss map mod.
6. Do wisps, do abyss, kill spires slowly (wait for them to spawn rare monsters between each phase).
"New player friendly" *bro wearing a Headhunter & Progenesis*
i bought my 1st HeadHunter with this strat NO MF. very good
Thank you bro for this guide im level 94 first league and I wasn't even close to what you was getting in this video in loot...🙏🤘
Basically what you're saying and showing in this video is turning profit while enjoying the content you're running, is the key to playing this game. Optimization comes down to whether or not you're having fun, while making money. Not like it's a job. More or less. Much love.
Great video man. I actually did not know about the spires life bit. Tyvm
Was tired of paying 1d for 3 abyss scarabs. Ima nub and didnt kno i could roll the 50 some bullshit ones i had for cheap purple juice.. thank you i made more in 3 maps than i did in the past 3 weeks almost just from this vid.
Dude! Nice video!! This helps a lot!!
Nice video. Its easier to understand and simple. Hope your channel gets bigger your videos are really good man. More power to you sir!
nice vid :) btw this is doable on a much much lower budget. I'm a PF with lightning coil/taste of hate/defiance of destiny, and rest is MF gear (Goratha's spec) maybe ~20 div total for entire gear. I can stand in the middle of a dozen abyss rares with beyond/deli and never die as long as i can attack & leech. Dps is of course not super high, but its more than enough for T7 cemetery even with 8k juice.
love this smooth breakdown. very easy to understand. thank you!
Im usually end with league in 3 weeks with 40/40 trophy but this league is fun since you can abuse wisps mechanic to have insane loots in maps. Loots is what make my game enjoyable 😊
Remember if your are doing this strategy go to the graphics tab scroll to the bottom to advanced settings and enable dynamic culling, dynamic resolution, target frame rate set 30 to 60. This will ensure the game scales the resolution down when in intense settings such as this as well removes non-essential particles preventing full lock ups.
You should be using driver forced fps cap not in game, and unless your PC is a potato, you shouldnt have an issue. 30-60fps would make for terrible input latency. Dynamic culling is good though.
@@insertnamehere4419 FPS limiting and target frame rate are not the same, it works with dynamic resolution if your fps drops below the target amount it downscales the resolution of objects to improve fps.
Thank you, this strat dropped me a mirror :)
hey i dont know if i did anything wrong but i tried this and got 0 item on the whole map
I really enjoyed the video and it def. Made me sub. I’m with you on this , fun and enjoyment over anything else . I’ve ruined other games min maxing , number chasing , and meta farming. I fell for the trap which is “ I suck at a VIDEO GAME …. If I don’t have this …..” etc. keep it up . Love the attitude. Also fuck that head hunter.
15th map trying this strat without MF (wish i read before and looked at the gear...i just assumed it was without MF because of the "new player friendly" in the title)
got close to nothing...barely breaking even with the odd card that drops (I'm chaos rolling to get projectiles but sometimes can be more than 10c a map). Sometimes i kill the spires early and thats my bad...but even when they release loads of mobs i don't get much at all :/
Followed this guide with no magic find gear at all, playing explosive trap. Have run 3 maps, no rips. A div drop each map. 100 times better than what I was doing before.
Having a rough time (First League) Im also playing explosive trap, maybe ill try this.
I have run the same strat for 5 maps, and have nothing of substance... spent more on scarabs and chaos rolling proj+mods I can run than getting loot from maps.... idk what im doing wrong. I get like 2k wisp average, maybe that? 😪
@@xHyzer 3k wisps is where the loot gets really good. Blue >> Purple >> Yellow, make sure you don't kill the spire too quick since it shoots out monsters at 100% and
@@KingQuetzal Il give this a go, thanks for the tips!
You can drop quest items to mark the events to make it easier.
love you builds and your chill attitude dude
Comment for the algorithm!!! Thanks for the video brother. You have helped me so much.
you know? I watched a lot of videos on how to get div orbs, but I didn't understand much... your explanation is easy to understand for me who is new player
Your videos are just amazing! This is why i subbed! Love seeing your videos. Thank you for helping all of us!
2nd league that I've played. Still so much to learn, and the meta is a bit overwhelming. Your del and harvest Strat has been great for me as I learn and progress
Enjoy the fact that high tier uniques are the cheapest they have ever been !
Arakali's Fang + Squire usually is 40 div, but this league it is only 2 div.
came here to learn how to do high wisps, got mirror on first map. ty lol.
Really appreciate the breakdown.
cheeeers
funnily enough, i spent a bunch of divs juicing cemetary maps to make barely any profit... ran a few unjuiced and got back to back 5div divination card drops... my currency conversion procs are always stacks of alts too... unlike these div stack drops i see on the strat videos from other people. never seen a good unique there either! i have defo found unjuiced or 1 scarab/sextant maps to be quick and profitable.
as a noob i use blacksmiths stones ... i give them high loot tier so they are seen on minimap... than i drop 1 where i spawn and run to the corner of the map and drop another one to see what my map looks like ... its helps alot... and tnx for video
Thats a great idea
@@safeontalk im a gold fish stoner it really helps for me lol ;:D
Thanks for the good video. This was one of the few ones which actually made some sense for a beginner and didn't refer to something I haven't slightest idea what it meant.
I've been struggling with currency from beginning and I know there's something fundamental wrong with my setup or playstyle, but haven't been able to figure out what. The problem is, I get practically no useful drops, no matter what I do, harbinger, harvest, delirium or such. I have tried everything. I practically do what you told, chisel map into 20% and make it unique and then find as much wisps as possible.
I'm at level 91 with most of my Atlas revealed. I can easily run tier 16 corrupted rare maps and up to tier 8 with 6k wisps. However, I mostly get only 1 to 2c worth of drops per map. No currency and practically no gear with useful stats. My wealth has come mainly from occasional higher value drops, harvest and during the better period, which I had from christmas up to recently. My total worth is 13divs with about 8 days on my game clock. It was less than 1div on 5 days
In my best times, I was able to get 2k-6k juice from the maps and around 30c average currency. Now it has dropped back to few c and getting 2k if wisps is rare. There's just mostly nothing, and even finding a trail and following it across the area gives only about 1000.
Wisp situation seems to be a bit better on higher tier maps, but if I can get lots of juice from tier 12, I can't handle it. Some days ago I still got juice from tier 6-8, but not anymore. Everyone is saying it shouldn't matter, but for me it does.
I'm using an atlas tree from fizz's build guide, and it should be fine. In it's way it is, since I get lots of map and different content. The problem is drops. I get 0-2 essences from essence events, 0-4 oils from blight, and from exploration, mostly nothing that would show throw loot filter.
It seems that in POE, 20% more don't be what it sounds like but it's added 20% on top of some unknown base percentage, which in my case, for some reason is negative. For example, I had and still have some some unexplored maps in my atlas, because they just refused to drop. Connected maps didn't drop any maps no matter how long I run them. I find recently that if I add 20% increased drop change scarab on those maps, I get lots of connected maps instead of 20% more than nothing
Propably I have similar problem with the base percentage of my currency drops and such, so adding multipliers like wisps or fragments or chisels don't help much. I just don't have any idea what could cause it and how to fix it. Right now, I'm running out of chisels, because I get one from maybe one fourth or fifth maps, and I'd need four per map.
I haven't done map rolling, so I run them all. Mostly because I still can't say what is a good map or not. Percentages tell something, but there's much bigger variation from unknown factors.With my current income rate, using chaos orbs to roll the maps would severely affect on my income. Without random 30-150c drops, I'd have no possibility to continue, and I can't predict when they come, so better try everything. I have got 4 divs during the entire game, so it's big portion of my worth.
Experimental harvest in wildwood gives me around 500 life force, so propably that one don't suffer from this weird nerf disease.
I struggle with consistent wisp rate the most. Done some testing and it is by far the most important part when it comes to mapping, I didn‘t believe it at first..
@@mettdamon6024 Yes. That has been very obvious for me. Without wisps, no drops. However, even with some wisps, I haven't got anything in past week. However, yesterday something changed, and I made about 6 divs worth of income in 4 hours. I got 3 divs from consequent maps, and other drops were at least order if magnitude better than before. 6k wisps were back, instead of
Ever find a fix?
@@itzbigchicano001 Things did change when I got couple of voidstones, had my atlas fully filled, and made some changes in my atlas tree, but fundamental problem still exists. My savior was kind of counter intuitive, and I find it buy accident when leveling up avoiding possibility to die. When I run tier 16 maps, I need to use four chisels to raise quality and 3 scarabs on map device, but not use alc. With this, most of the drops are currency, and not much useless gear, what it is if I use alc. If I get 5k+ wisps, preferably as much cyan as possible, and maybe some yellow, I get big profits. My currency worth is now about 120divines and 30 divines on my gear. I have get it mostly from random high value drops like Einhart's memories, which I have sold 10-20 divines, random divine drops and stuff I have got from Aul. They sell between 2-4 divines. I also got one Brothers gift.
Good fortune seems to come in periods, and when the flux is on, I have made around 10-20divs per hour. Then there can be several days with no more than 0.5-1div/hour.
I have improved my gear and tried to run corrupted 8-modifier tier16 maps, with sextants and all scarabs. I use lots of abyses, since they seems to give best drops. With over 5k wisps, those typically become hard, but haven't get more currency than from juiced plain maps. However, those takes much longer to run, partly because increased difficulty, but mostly because there will be so much items like rings, belts, boots and armor, which are shown as a high value on my loot filter, and even more unique ones, which I can't stop checking. I haven't find good loot filter to leave them out, and wouldn't like to miss, if I find something valuable.
Once I spent 40min on 8k wisp map. 15min to clear it and 25mins to get through the loot. The total value was a bit over 1div, since there was very little currency and so much worthless stuff. Sometimes I have get something, which seems to have value around 100c or maybe even few divs, but they never sell, even if I drop the price less than tenth. Usually I sell them to vendors to free up space.
Hi thanks for the video. Appreciate your take on it.
Is there a reason why you don't take the 3 delirium points for chance of the mirror spawning ? Since you take the lower ones it might just be a mistake. Just wanted to point it out if it needs to be corrected so people will see more deli as well.
With those 3 points + wandering path you go from 24% to a whooping 48% chance to spawn deli
I tried about a dozen times. I could never replicate these kinds of results. How often are you getting loot explosions like this?
Pretty impressive man. I'm 3200 hours in and have yet to see a map with multiple divines in it. I'm about to get all over this strat.
I did not know you can reroll scarabs! Game changer!
small trails= no event near
big trails = event right next to it somewhere around the trails
Does the spire strat still work in higher tiers? Wont it just spawn a depths?
i farm 1 gildead abys 1 ghilded reli for better conversions on gooblins 1 polish strong box 1 harbinger ,cheep sextants 25 magic pack size 6-8c,altas 4-5 c,sb coruppted 6-8 c ,map quality to rarity 4-6 c ,beyond on machine 5 c , 40 maps setup usualy 10-13 div last setup whas 12.3 div a map proffit usualy 3 maps per hrs so anywhere around 35-40 div/h t16 maps btw 72 quant 384 rarity penanace brand with 40k hit pul + for easy clear when laggy
about the widescreen issue that you are having...try hitting "keeep changes" ann then "save" on the bottom left or else it will revert i think i was having the same issue, this fixed it.
Yea it wouldnt even change the resolution at all. Was weird. Maybe Ill mess with it more
Like always its nice that z keep it as simple as possible. I want to get the atlas completed this league completly for the first time. So i am just using ur strat with the ehhh forget the name. The boss invites u get while clearing maps from t9 on. The thing u need to click in the map device beside the maven stuff.
Broh ,,,,I like ur style!
You had me at the beginning but as soon as you said abyss… no thnx. It def is a great strategy but it’s a small variation from what others show. I subbed anyways because you have good insight! Thank you
Great video :) Could you please share your loot filter? Thanks
Hey awesome videos tanks!
btw what do you use for sextant?
"Some juice is better than no juice" my key takeaway 😂
I saw a patch come out today saying The "Additional Monster Projectiles" Private League modifier no longer causes Stygian Spires to fire additional projectiles. This modifier is once again available when creating a new Private League, and existing Private Leagues with this modifier will have this re-enabled shortly after this patch is deployed". What does this mean?
Thats a great question. I have no idea, but I was doing some MF today and nothing changed ahaha
Blight and temples have been pretty fun for me after the sanctum runs. MASSIVE loot explosions, just remember to turn your loot filter to 11 😂.
I ran blight all day yesterday, some decent divines dropped. BUT I did notice using silver oils for + 80% quantity seemed like a huge waste of time. got my quant up to 215% and didn't notice any difference at all. My biggest issue is actually just running out of sacrifice fragments.
Thanks for sharing
Hey, Great Video... Can you share your POB as your build looks great
i have 55 quant and almost 260 rarity and im running all the scarabs and sextants and getting like 5-8 wips and still just not seeing the reults. ive ran over 100 cemetary maps and have had like 10 raw divine drop total and 1 scarab explosion and 1 hinekoras lock (which is insane) but outside of that not really anything. even doing the spire correctly and just not seeing very good results. i think ive had a divine drop in 15-20 maps. i don't really understand why. im really more curious as to why i see like no scarbs drops at all. i cant think of anything im doing wrong.
I'm a new player...... I'm not sure why people say this game is hard to figure out. There's alot going on, but it all makes sense. I'm loving the crafting and everything. So nice to play a game with substance.
Hi there. Thanks for the video. Great content? Quick question. I have copied your atlas tree (although put more points into legion rather than delirium) I use the T7 maps with proj and gilded abyss scarabs and even a bit more. Also use abyss compass. I have done 10 maps so far and have yet to see a single divine drop. Am I doing something wrong or just unlucky? Granted I don't have 7k whisp runs but 2-4k average. I don't run MF gear but is that really what makes the strat? Or am I simply unlucky? xD Thanks!
Update: 17 maps in. 1 divine dropped. I guess I have made back what I poured in to the strat, but I don't see this as being really profitable atm.
@@NFG_Freakz So a couple things to note from your comments. For one, practice woods to get more wisps. That's the first step. 2nd, you said dropping one div made back what you put in for 17 maps. Which tells me you didn't put in much. Want big profit like you see on peoples videos? You need to run more juice. All gilded scarabs at minimum. And he says no beyond in video, but im here to tell you beyond is insanely profitable. Can't even begin to count how many divines and scarab explosions came from beyond mobs.
So tdlr: 1 divine investment for 17 maps and little wisps will not equal a big farm. Practice woods in Desecrated Chambers A10 for even like 30 minutes and you'll see improvement. From there, take 20-30 div and buy sets of gilded+ scarabs and sextants, and run your maps. You'll have to seriously do something wrong to not make profit at that point. Also one last note, T11 burial chambers feels amazing compared to T7 cemetery if you can handle it. Fortunates drop left and right and will just about pay for your investment alone, and valdo's drop often enough at almost 3div per.
@@blobweird123 That's all well and good and it makes sense but it kinda defeats the whole purpose of this video. The whole point was to not go out of your way to buy a bunch of juice and having MF gear. The idea was with the atlas tree he presents and only gilde abyss scarabs and whatever else you want to put in( which I have been using) you should be just fine.
I have been putting a bit more currency into the runs than the 1 div, That was just buying scarabs. I haven been running the plus 2 proj T7 cemeteries with gilded abyss, gilded div and gilded reliquary. Then paired with abyss map craft and abyss compass. I have now done a total of 20-22 maps and have 3 div drops and a couple of reliquary keys. Those runs have been with a minimum of 3k wisps, often more.
I'm honestly not that keen on spending a bunch of time to optimize the big streamer farm. Like his video suggests, it doesn't have to be that complicated and clearly he's doing fine. Even with that showcase map (granted that was ofc with 7k wisps and MF gear).
I might check out running T11 burial instead though. Thanks for that heads up :)
Hey Safe, great video. Quick question my map devise doesn't have abyss as an option. Do I need to unlock it somehow?
nm I'm an idiot. I thought I had all 6 gates activated but I misse done
Thanks for the video,, but it's miss-leading you wrote that this can be played without MF and still be profitable but this is not true, i tried T16's and 7's with juice but its not profitable at all, i got only useless currencies like orb of alterations.
Do you think you can make a noob friendly build guide on your spin to win build?. It looked so fun to play.
I am investing about 100c a map and I am losing money, what the hell is happening?
Hey hey,
Awesome video first of all.
I have a question though regarding the maps, you used 7 Cemetery, but I only have T5 Cemetery.
Am I missing a mechanic?
I see you also have 10 different T7 maps, but in my list I only have 7 different T7 maps.
Trying to figure out why there is a difference.
Any ideas?
Voidstones. Watch sirgog’s recent video, it goes over the Voidstone mechanic and answers a lot of questions
Also mentioned briefly at 6:45 in this vid
Do you guys hit the deli thing before going into the wildwood or after when you return to the map? I usually hit it after the wildwood. Should I hit it first?
Any estimates on a range of div/hour for this strat? Just curious, I'm not ready to juice big yet and this strat looks appealing.
What's your build, you mind showing POB?
Its kobeblackmamba's lightning strike MF. If you google his discord he has the pob in his pob section :)
I am really enjoying your energy on this video. :)
This is precisely the sort of thing I was looking for -- I wanted to use the league mechanic and test my character againt it, but didn't want to invest a ton in each map.
Have you tried using anything other than abyss to get lots of rares to go with the league mechanic? Maybe tormented spirits? Rogue exiles? Ritual?
Ritual is good. If you arent confident in your build than delirium and beyond can be RIPpy
Tormented spirits might be how people are getting the crazy pops, although id be nervous to run into a possessed triple empowered monster hahah
Well Said!
Do you have pob or build guide you can recommend? Been wanting to try lightning strike
I copied kobeblackmamba's build. You can google his discord, he puts all his POB's in there and ais also a quality streamer.
I am playing DD and I have to be so careful to keep the spire alive. my ignites just decimate it if im not careful, any tips or should I do another atlas path?
bro you made navigating the wisp so easy lmfao!
I swapped to this, was getting very low profit, 30c each map average with no "tinks" counted.
and about the tinks, they´re so rare for me, maybe a tink every 10 maps.
I´m still learning and getting better farming the wisps, and feel like I can increase it way more if I get better, i usually get 2.5-5.5k wisps
maybe for this strat to be lucrative you need 7000+ wisps or mf gear
But hey, it´s my 2nd league im a noob
Make sure your atlas is EXACTLY like his is also.............
The amount of wisps i got when i recorded was pretty high, not every map is that lucrative, but 30c seems super low so I think there must be something else going on with how youre runnin it
How did you get the 6th gateway in your atlas if you have no nodes around it? (the gateway on the lower right corner where betrayal nodes are)
Once you get one of the gates you can just put a point into the other
Hey. What am i doing wrong ? I can gather like 5-6k wisps at max...when i'm lucky. You wisp counter goes 5x faster ? How ?
I'm giving up slowly. Done over 100maps and my drop is 3 Div and fev Ex. Got Goratha tree, i use scarabs and fragments. +2 and chis of course. My screen is usualy full of low tier uniques...but no divines. Heeelp !
That was a pretty lucky wisp run in the video. Just happened to be a good one when I recorded it. The blue wisps are the currency wisps so if you have a choice on a color trail to follow and you see blue you might want to focus on blue. Getting purple and blue seems to be the best combo for this strat.
Well...a noob's life. I priotitized purple and yellow. Thanks !
I hate the super bate thumbnails, but you did a good explanation for new players.
hi friend, I found you by chance and it was lucky..
You explain a lot of very useful things!! and I'm learning a lot from your videos!
But by any chance could you make a video where you explain what equipment to start the magic find with to take advantage of this strategy?
bcs i farming right now essences with Tornado shot .. but i dont know if its good to change and try this for do more money,with little budget or continue farm essence.. and wait to take more gear..
Essence is really not good unless you are SSF. It's not worth much. You'll get more money from other strategies.
getting a tornado shot MF to feel good is one of the most expensive builds in the game, which does stink. If you are set on juicing you might just want to do it with a build WITHOUT the magic find for a little while, its still very profitable!
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Man the joke even matches your name. Thats commitment
As a LA deadeye running corrupted and semi juiced T16 Legions, should I be capable of running this strat? Or just stick to my current method?
Your build can only run T7 with wisps. Also mind HH is mandatory.
Why do monsters need to have extra projectiles in mods? Nice content