I mean, talking about German people without jumping to A.H. in 3 seconds is something most of the world isn't capable of, which according to me is really dumb.
Uhh... You have your prelate on food and walk it to gold every 30second and then back to food. There thats all you literally ever need to know for the early game.
Ya, but you could make the argument that it’s just as important to pay attention to the Imperial Official in the early game tho. They kind of work similarly and you can’t really pay attention to both special units at the same time. I bet he went with Chinese cause that’s what he mains
@@dsova9366 I mean I guess, depends on what the interest of the audience is I suppose. Still think paying attention to both units in the early game is equally important. If HRE were the better civ I would still say the same thing
That was a great game. I thought Kelazhur had it for sure. It was really interesting to see that keep play too, as a filthy casual I tend to feel a failure if I lose any keeps but the pros are happy to throw those resources for even just a 15 second delay. It seemed to work for him too looking at the way the game played out, definitely something for me to remember. Same with the backwards gates, I was looking at them as a total misplay but it turns out I just don't have the IQ.
Kelazhur played so well, in the beginning, capturing 4 relics and sacred sites and had a good mass of army...but as Drongo said at 19:40 this guy misplayed and didn't know how to efficiently use his pile of resources...it was so sad to see him fail. To Beasty's credit, he just banked on the fault of his opponent, else he was certain to lose at 20:00 if Kelazhur had directed his seige at NOBs and continued advancing to the enemy base, but he kept strolling around.
I think its more than a nerf to just the Bombard. I think the Culverin needs to be buffed and reduced in price. It should be a much better siege weapon than the springald, but it isnt. Culverin is to expensive, slow and doesn't do enough damage to justify its existence in the imperial age.
I think its good the way it is cause otherwise might be to op, first and foremost it one shots springalds and springalds dont do much dmg against it so the pure purpuse of imperial anti siege is ticked it outranges the bombards so u cant go full bombards when enemy have culverins, it shouldnt be any faster as with this range you could snipe any siege without any punishment, it requires skill to use it properly which is good in a long run
@@LookAtTheBacon Culverin is just an improved spingald. If it goes much better than any artillery it will destroy non-culverin civs' late-game performance
Auto tax collecting is the reason for the early game IO bug, to fix it you can shift clicking TC then supervise (while holding shift). Alternatively just turn it off like you mentioned until you want a dedicated collector
Drongo idk do you realize that simple fix to IO's bug is before you order them to supervise you have to switch off auto tax collection, its super easy to remember that once you do it few time basically before u Press E Press R to turn off the auto tax collection and Bang no more walki around
I found it funny as well because Drongo made it sound fun, but I actually always build my gates this way and never thought about building it the other way around. Why would you? Maybe I'm missing something here haha.
@@LookAtTheBacon well the reason you'd do it the "normal way" is so you can put your archers etc. on top of the wall and your opponent can't. but if you just don't care about any archers on top from either side this is an interesting alternative, without any other towers etc. enemy melee infantry can't do much with it.
@@ghostgurl17 I don't remember the exact numbers but iirc it's a bit of extra range and damage reduction, so it's a decent advantage for archers vs archers if somebody tries to just shoot it out.
Drongo, the prelade buff, if he research the tech that prelades buff military units, he could use that building to buff a frontline defense in the enter of his base. So, if china wanna attack, needs battles against all military units buffed by the only one prelade inside that building.
This was an amazing game to watch and very exciting to see how well beasty is with his stone wall micro. absolutely fantastic work from kelazhur with the mid to earlyish-late game, sadly not being able to keep up with beasty's ridiculous bombards. Side note: The bombards in AoE4 through out all civs NEED to be nerfed with their reload and firerate, not only is it too good it's also highly unrealistic, if only they could be brought more in line with the trebuchets' fire rate and unpack times.
One thing I find myself disappointed by consistently is the lack of prelates made for eco with HRE. 1 prelate buffing 8-10 vils is worth 3-4 additional villagers (before upgrades; after upgrades it's still worth more than 2). Imagine if Khelazur had 3-4 prelates on that woodline with 40 villagers. It's not like he didn't have the resources. The HRE eco in this game could have been a lot stronger. Also overcommitting to infantry and not making enough anti-siege, even after seeing a mass of Nest of Bees. If you replace half of the bombards Khelazhur made with Culvs, things would probably have gone a lot better for him in the late game. 10 bombards before making any culvs was excessive, and cost him a lot, because the bombards were basically useless once Beasty got a good count of his own bombards/springalds. You don't need that many bombards to siege, and you know that China is going to make a ton of siege in the late game if they aren't under a lot of pressure, and they will not match up well against Chinese siege.
Prelate just needs some baby sitting like the taxman, maybe if they were a bit easy to use people will go for it more, I think it’s fair to give them a buff
@@changliu7346 Eh, not really. Prelates just need to be put near wherever the res are being turned in so they can buff vils as they come in, or spread around the resource to cover all the vils. They only break if you micro them while they're trying to buff a villager now (though they fix themselves when whatever they were trying to buff when they were pulled away enters their range while they're idle, so if you move the prelate back to its previous location without moving any vils elsewhere, it will fix itself). Maybe the civ could use a buff (and could certainly use some bug fixes), but players not capitalizing on the existing bonuses as much as they could really hurts the civ even in these high level games. With multiple prelates, HRE has the strongest early eco of any civ, so it should be able to reach age 3 first consistently, with prelates in position to pick up the relics when they get there. Early MaA combined with that strong eco also gives the civ a very good age 2, letting it either secure map control or get a guaranteed age 3 first, with prelates potentially in position to grab relics as soon as they get there. + A faster age 4 with the reduced cost from Swabia and relic income. HRE has a lot more going for it than people often let on. People also seem to get baited into going too heavy on infantry without supplementing that infantry properly even when it's countered, because it's what their unique techs are focused on. The civ has the eco to make anything, yet people consistently seem to double down on infantry and not transition into more pop-efficient units, like Handcannoneers, when going into the later stages of the game. Culvs can go toe to toe with China's clocktower siege. Culvs fall just short of 1-shotting clocktower springalds/Nest of Bees normally, and they can 1 shot with chemistry and inspire from a prelate with the Inspired Warriors tech. Buffing siege is probably the best use of the tech, considering that bringing 8 prelates with the army to buff everything else is probably excessive, especially considering the buff is only a 30s duration and melee units are outrunning the prelates.
I also think this is one of the sneaky powers of late HRE. In theory with the upgrades, HRE can kill 6 vills for every 10 they have and maintain a similar econ to their opponent but gain 5 pop (6 vills - 1 prelate). Its the equivalent of Terrans in SC2 killing their scvs and relying on mules to have a larger pop army than their opponent.
@@travisdunlap4526 how would this be equivalent? The prelate buff is only 40% (50% with upgrade). That's 5 vills + prelate is worth 7.5 vills with the upgrade, not 10. If you kill 3 vills you'd have 7 vills + prelate and that's worth 10.5 villagers so you'd only gain 2 pop for every 10. Maybe you're countin the extra 4 carrying capacity? I'm sure that helps some but i can't imagine it's significant enough to reduce your villager population by over half.
@@rdwind7734 What I failed to account for was that each HRE vill you killed was actually "more than a vil" because of the 60% boost. So yeah I don't think my math is right.
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Beasty seemed to struggle against this player in the other matches, but seemed to survive long enough to beat his opponent this time by the sheer strength of the Chinese in the late game
I think Kelazur's biggest mistake was placement of the Cathedral. No reason to have it so forward. Also if he shut down the outposts, I don't think Beasty would have been able to shoot over the hill. He needed bombards on the outposts. As always, hindsight is 20/20
Huh? he was 3000 score behind when he lost the cathedral the game is essentially over at that point, HRE can't beat China in post-imperial late game, no civ can actually.
It would be nice to see HRE players use walls more since they have the most powerful defense in the game. Even Beasty who wasn't HRE in this game used walls on a map that is perfect for them. I feel like HRE isn't being played properly outside of getting relics.
Culverin needs buff vs springalds. They are both anti-siege but the canon is the later version and shouldn't be so easily taken out by it's inferior. Don't you think?
Beasty was sitting on so many resources for the whole 2nd half of the game. Easily could’ve ended the game just by going Yuan and fire lancer flank raiding and then getting grendiers out and just obliterating the MaAs
The enemy would just kill it with their six+ bombards in a few shots. Not worth the risk investing 12k resources and waiting 15min (was 10 before!) on such a small map. In a 3v3 or 4v4, sure.
German and Arabic, both frequently used as "evil guys" in movies... where they are supposed to sound aggressive, what a coincidence. If you dont change your tone and volume both of those languages sound just like any other... same goes for russian etc. btw..
beasty out played kelazhur, and invested and protected his siege, while losing infantry his core siege was safe. and he focused on anti siege when kelazhur had more bombards. kelazhur threw away his bombards and his anti siege did not have the numbers against the mass hp buffed springald. then after the trade beasty boosted up his bombard numbers which had the range to trade with anti siege. and pressed in knowing his opponent is now stressed in gold while creating area denial. plus beasty had villager heal teams. beasty mitigated his civ's weakness and capitalized on his strength. while kalazhur missed his opportunities. i don't feel unit imba caused the result of the match. you are supposed to have strengths that over power other civs in certain areas but you also have weaknesses. opportunities multiply as they are seized ;P and that is what happened here that made the units look imba, a lot of things had to come together. wp by beasty imho.
Tried this yesterday but the problem was that knights are so expensive. It's hard to get them to a critical number if you're doing all your upgrades for them as well. And without upgrades they fall too quickly to the new spearmen. That's my experience at least.
You just can't beat China in post-imperial game, the "fast Imperial" dont meant shit if you can't finish China before the clocktower bombard reaches a critical mass, is just unstoppable in the late game.
After they drop it off at the tc and you make them supervise something on their way back they will not supervise and instead pick up another piece of tax and continue to go back to the tc. This is a bug
Both Culverin and landsknecht need to be buffed. Culverin should absolutely dominate bombard, it only has that one job. Landsknecht needs to be much cheaper to compensate its squishiness.
BeastyQ said after this tournament he will never stream games again, because he couldn't perform as much as he would've liked, got distracted by Twitch Chat.
I will disagree on more landsknecht in this game. Early on, yes they made a solid impact, but once nest of bees are an expected part of the opponent's army, the landsknecht just get absolutely shredded. You have to take care of the bees before you can retroduce them into your army, else its just a waste of resources.
@@apex1615 Where did you hear me say I don't want bombards to be powerful against buildings anymore? I'm saying that, for me personally, it would be more enjoyable if they don't wipe out keeps in a matter of seconds. Besides, they also have relatively high hp for such a unit.
Ah, yes, my boi HRE, very easy to abuse fast castle/imperial with 3-5 relics against less skilled players, but gets weaker the higher up the ladder you go Still, im hoping for more infantry focused civ in the future like maybe a Japanese Empire
Yeah, but if he had put that Regnitz in the back of his base (towards the outer edge of the map), it would never have died in the first place. Not even once. And then he wouldn't have had any Gold problems. Just saying.
beastyqt generally is in the top ten of ladder and this was actually a paid showmatch.. that being said 2tc song into HRE does just cede them a fast imperial tbh.
I personally think that HRE is just too weak overall. There is a reason why most of the top 100 players avoid it. Very unfortunate! Thanks for casting!
I feel like people aren't utilizing their civ bonuses properly outside of relics. I also think they have no powerful age 4 unit that makes a big difference.
I really hope they don't change how the spawning works in this game. I like unique map generation instead of maps that perfectly mirror both sides. That's so boring and predictable. I wish there was even more variability.
@@Simon-ty1yv Because devs ruin games more often then not these days. Notice how they put in that funny little "You monster" when you kill the sheep. That's cute, but it's not really about being funny. That hint tells you where the devs lean toward.
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Bombards needs a nerf. Seriously, it's disgusting the damage output on buildings. I know it's the essence of it's existence but is too much. There is no room for defense.
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Me as a German enjoy it
I mean, talking about German people without jumping to A.H. in 3 seconds is something most of the world isn't capable of, which according to me is really dumb.
Please please pay a bit more attention to HRE earlygame, it's so important to see how prelates get moved and how resources are allocated. Love ya
Uhh... You have your prelate on food and walk it to gold every 30second and then back to food. There thats all you literally ever need to know for the early game.
Ya, but you could make the argument that it’s just as important to pay attention to the Imperial Official in the early game tho. They kind of work similarly and you can’t really pay attention to both special units at the same time. I bet he went with Chinese cause that’s what he mains
@@dsova9366 tHWE WORST TO PLAY ISA UYOIR MOTHERR
@@dsova9366 I mean I guess, depends on what the interest of the audience is I suppose. Still think paying attention to both units in the early game is equally important. If HRE were the better civ I would still say the same thing
Come by and watch Fitzyhere on Twitch, he plays a LOT of HRE and is top 100 in almost all playlists :)
That was a great game. I thought Kelazhur had it for sure. It was really interesting to see that keep play too, as a filthy casual I tend to feel a failure if I lose any keeps but the pros are happy to throw those resources for even just a 15 second delay. It seemed to work for him too looking at the way the game played out, definitely something for me to remember. Same with the backwards gates, I was looking at them as a total misplay but it turns out I just don't have the IQ.
Kelazhur played so well, in the beginning, capturing 4 relics and sacred sites and had a good mass of army...but as Drongo said at 19:40 this guy misplayed and didn't know how to efficiently use his pile of resources...it was so sad to see him fail. To Beasty's credit, he just banked on the fault of his opponent, else he was certain to lose at 20:00 if Kelazhur had directed his seige at NOBs and continued advancing to the enemy base, but he kept strolling around.
I think its more than a nerf to just the Bombard. I think the Culverin needs to be buffed and reduced in price. It should be a much better siege weapon than the springald, but it isnt. Culverin is to expensive, slow and doesn't do enough damage to justify its existence in the imperial age.
Absolutely. Fully agreed. And it dies too quickly.
I think its good the way it is cause otherwise might be to op, first and foremost it one shots springalds and springalds dont do much dmg against it so the pure purpuse of imperial anti siege is ticked it outranges the bombards so u cant go full bombards when enemy have culverins, it shouldnt be any faster as with this range you could snipe any siege without any punishment, it requires skill to use it properly which is good in a long run
Culverin damage is fair now with the spring nerf. need only 2 for 1 shot to all other siege .... But It could be a bit more beafy
@@20coryallen 2 shot bombard is where I would want to see it probably, also siege needs a universal nerf to speed as well
@@LookAtTheBacon Culverin is just an improved spingald. If it goes much better than any artillery it will destroy non-culverin civs' late-game performance
Auto tax collecting is the reason for the early game IO bug, to fix it you can shift clicking TC then supervise (while holding shift). Alternatively just turn it off like you mentioned until you want a dedicated collector
13:59 that german accent was too funny lol
I really love the way you explain things from game
loving the upload schedule!
Drongo idk do you realize that simple fix to IO's bug is before you order them to supervise you have to switch off auto tax collection, its super easy to remember that once you do it few time basically before u Press E Press R to turn off the auto tax collection and Bang no more walki around
He knows. He mentioned it at 8:58
He kinda did but i feel this is a good reminder for everyone
Drongo you are the absolute man. If I’m not playing aoe I’m watching your channel. Keep it up fella down under
Spectacular gameplay 👍🏼
was laughing so hard on that reverse wall trick 😂😂. beasty you cheaky guy
I found it funny as well because Drongo made it sound fun, but I actually always build my gates this way and never thought about building it the other way around. Why would you? Maybe I'm missing something here haha.
@@LookAtTheBacon well the reason you'd do it the "normal way" is so you can put your archers etc. on top of the wall and your opponent can't. but if you just don't care about any archers on top from either side this is an interesting alternative, without any other towers etc. enemy melee infantry can't do much with it.
@@CoyoteXLI ah thx. Knew I missed something haha. But never putting archers on them anyway, so. Merely for spacing purposes
@@CoyoteXLI is there any range buff for wall mounted archers/xbows in this game?
@@ghostgurl17 I don't remember the exact numbers but iirc it's a bit of extra range and damage reduction, so it's a decent advantage for archers vs archers if somebody tries to just shoot it out.
Drongo, the prelade buff, if he research the tech that prelades buff military units, he could use that building to buff a frontline defense in the enter of his base. So, if china wanna attack, needs battles against all military units buffed by the only one prelade inside that building.
This was an amazing game to watch and very exciting to see how well beasty is with his stone wall micro. absolutely fantastic work from kelazhur with the mid to earlyish-late game, sadly not being able to keep up with beasty's ridiculous bombards.
Side note: The bombards in AoE4 through out all civs NEED to be nerfed with their reload and firerate, not only is it too good it's also highly unrealistic, if only they could be brought more in line with the trebuchets' fire rate and unpack times.
Well, as a german I'm happy that my language isn't rooted to 50% in FRENCH...like english.
So yeah... =)
That's what happens when you get conquered
@@hgu874 Don't worry, French has stolen about a 40% from early Germanic languages. It is the least Latin language of all Latin languages. (:
you mean latin
@@hgu874 Last I heard, from an actual linguist, about 50% is rooted in french, 45% in old Saxon and 5% in Norse.
One thing I find myself disappointed by consistently is the lack of prelates made for eco with HRE. 1 prelate buffing 8-10 vils is worth 3-4 additional villagers (before upgrades; after upgrades it's still worth more than 2). Imagine if Khelazur had 3-4 prelates on that woodline with 40 villagers. It's not like he didn't have the resources. The HRE eco in this game could have been a lot stronger.
Also overcommitting to infantry and not making enough anti-siege, even after seeing a mass of Nest of Bees.
If you replace half of the bombards Khelazhur made with Culvs, things would probably have gone a lot better for him in the late game. 10 bombards before making any culvs was excessive, and cost him a lot, because the bombards were basically useless once Beasty got a good count of his own bombards/springalds. You don't need that many bombards to siege, and you know that China is going to make a ton of siege in the late game if they aren't under a lot of pressure, and they will not match up well against Chinese siege.
Prelate just needs some baby sitting like the taxman, maybe if they were a bit easy to use people will go for it more, I think it’s fair to give them a buff
@@changliu7346 Eh, not really. Prelates just need to be put near wherever the res are being turned in so they can buff vils as they come in, or spread around the resource to cover all the vils. They only break if you micro them while they're trying to buff a villager now (though they fix themselves when whatever they were trying to buff when they were pulled away enters their range while they're idle, so if you move the prelate back to its previous location without moving any vils elsewhere, it will fix itself).
Maybe the civ could use a buff (and could certainly use some bug fixes), but players not capitalizing on the existing bonuses as much as they could really hurts the civ even in these high level games.
With multiple prelates, HRE has the strongest early eco of any civ, so it should be able to reach age 3 first consistently, with prelates in position to pick up the relics when they get there.
Early MaA combined with that strong eco also gives the civ a very good age 2, letting it either secure map control or get a guaranteed age 3 first, with prelates potentially in position to grab relics as soon as they get there. + A faster age 4 with the reduced cost from Swabia and relic income.
HRE has a lot more going for it than people often let on. People also seem to get baited into going too heavy on infantry without supplementing that infantry properly even when it's countered, because it's what their unique techs are focused on.
The civ has the eco to make anything, yet people consistently seem to double down on infantry and not transition into more pop-efficient units, like Handcannoneers, when going into the later stages of the game. Culvs can go toe to toe with China's clocktower siege.
Culvs fall just short of 1-shotting clocktower springalds/Nest of Bees normally, and they can 1 shot with chemistry and inspire from a prelate with the Inspired Warriors tech. Buffing siege is probably the best use of the tech, considering that bringing 8 prelates with the army to buff everything else is probably excessive, especially considering the buff is only a 30s duration and melee units are outrunning the prelates.
I also think this is one of the sneaky powers of late HRE. In theory with the upgrades, HRE can kill 6 vills for every 10 they have and maintain a similar econ to their opponent but gain 5 pop (6 vills - 1 prelate). Its the equivalent of Terrans in SC2 killing their scvs and relying on mules to have a larger pop army than their opponent.
@@travisdunlap4526 how would this be equivalent? The prelate buff is only 40% (50% with upgrade). That's 5 vills + prelate is worth 7.5 vills with the upgrade, not 10. If you kill 3 vills you'd have 7 vills + prelate and that's worth 10.5 villagers so you'd only gain 2 pop for every 10.
Maybe you're countin the extra 4 carrying capacity? I'm sure that helps some but i can't imagine it's significant enough to reduce your villager population by over half.
@@rdwind7734 What I failed to account for was that each HRE vill you killed was actually "more than a vil" because of the 60% boost. So yeah I don't think my math is right.
I just love how Drongo describes memes. "That lady got all those thoughs going through her mind and she's trying to do the math"
The reverse gate big brain move by Beastyqt at 31:15 was soo smart. Absolutely bamboozled Kelazhur when they made a seige tower.
Khelazhur is one of the best brazillian sc2 players, happy to see the continuous crossover of sc2 players into aoe4.
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-The german bit was also so true and well received.
Far, beasty is so good with those walls, especially on hill and dale. In that regard, it was like that game with beasty vs viper, where the wall based territory divide and conquer slowly won beasty the game
I can't believe I spent hours and hours watching these AOE4 fights as I did in AOE2 2 decades ago...
What's your verdict?
@@solidaritytime3650 For now micro aoe2>aoe4, but in future I believe aoe4>aoe2 inevitably
Love drongo. He must believe he knows all meta for China and ig he should be #1 on the ladder
Clockwork Bong Bards sounds like a DND homebrew character. I wouldn't say beasty is being toxic he's just using the tools he has.
Beasty seemed to struggle against this player in the other matches, but seemed to survive long enough to beat his opponent this time by the sheer strength of the Chinese in the late game
don't know if its guaranteed, but that china io bug goes away if you turn off auto collect taxes.
I think Kelazur's biggest mistake was placement of the Cathedral. No reason to have it so forward. Also if he shut down the outposts, I don't think Beasty would have been able to shoot over the hill. He needed bombards on the outposts. As always, hindsight is 20/20
he had 8 bombards with infantry and waits
Dopes that age2 chapel boost the production of barracks? It might have been well placed for that
Huh? he was 3000 score behind when he lost the cathedral the game is essentially over at that point, HRE can't beat China in post-imperial late game, no civ can actually.
don't forget the austria and swiss german dialects. i do assume they are even funnier to listen at.
Beasty's defense is so nice...
15:15 wololo happening in the background
i m german but still had to like the video. Nice cast
It would be nice to see HRE players use walls more since they have the most powerful defense in the game. Even Beasty who wasn't HRE in this game used walls on a map that is perfect for them. I feel like HRE isn't being played properly outside of getting relics.
Its not fun putting up walls when 4-5 bombards just get through them in seconds.
Thats a really good point. I need to get my repair ability closer to my walls.
Kelazhur Big army and he waits and waits and waits and loses
Culverin needs buff vs springalds. They are both anti-siege but the canon is the later version and shouldn't be so easily taken out by it's inferior. Don't you think?
imo they should have the same power as 3x Springalds
Ye Drongo, what was that german man xD
Beasty was sitting on so many resources for the whole 2nd half of the game. Easily could’ve ended the game just by going Yuan and fire lancer flank raiding and then getting grendiers out and just obliterating the MaAs
Kinda hurts seeing that red bombards wiped clean.
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why they don't go for wonder? is that a bad strategy?
The enemy would just kill it with their six+ bombards in a few shots. Not worth the risk investing 12k resources and waiting 15min (was 10 before!) on such a small map.
In a 3v3 or 4v4, sure.
35:17 That's 5% gather rate increase for one dynasty it have reached. Not drop-off amount
I have also struggled against Chinese as HRE, the infantry is slow and the culverins are short of range. Mass cavalry is the way to go I think.
Walling in isnt toxic, its strategic
German and Arabic, both frequently used as "evil guys" in movies... where they are supposed to sound aggressive, what a coincidence. If you dont change your tone and volume both of those languages sound just like any other... same goes for russian etc. btw..
Yeah. That German accent is what Hollywood sounds like mocking Germans. Not how they actually sound.
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Your German was quite on point 😂
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3:35 how did you know I do that
beasty out played kelazhur, and invested and protected his siege, while losing infantry his core siege was safe. and he focused on anti siege when kelazhur had more bombards. kelazhur threw away his bombards and his anti siege did not have the numbers against the mass hp buffed springald. then after the trade beasty boosted up his bombard numbers which had the range to trade with anti siege. and pressed in knowing his opponent is now stressed in gold while creating area denial. plus beasty had villager heal teams. beasty mitigated his civ's weakness and capitalized on his strength. while kalazhur missed his opportunities. i don't feel unit imba caused the result of the match. you are supposed to have strengths that over power other civs in certain areas but you also have weaknesses. opportunities multiply as they are seized ;P and that is what happened here that made the units look imba, a lot of things had to come together. wp by beasty imho.
If Auto collect tax is on then the imperial official will not supervise a building even when you use the key for supervise, he'll collect tax instead.
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Why it still say song dynasty in age 4 lul
You're giving the HRE too much credit here. Clocktower Bombards are op.
HRE could have killed china in castle age with their own bombards this game though.
Wall IQ 1000
Great game. This was also great to show how weak the HRE late game is atm. Infantry doesn’t stand a chance
Maybe against other civs, but not against China with 8 clocktower max range Nest of Bees, yeah.
Id like to see a China player go for the 8 min Castle Age and raid with Knights, against the HRE player.
Tried this yesterday but the problem was that knights are so expensive. It's hard to get them to a critical number if you're doing all your upgrades for them as well. And without upgrades they fall too quickly to the new spearmen. That's my experience at least.
@@LookAtTheBacon hre spearman are bugged and cannot brace though.
@@DavidMortonian maa though. Nothing to scoff at
The correct way of using the Official is:
One per resources (x3)
One collecting taxes
If they aren't doing it, they are losing an economic boom
I love how drongo forgot the word Exodia in the previous video and he used it right in the next thumbnail
I fuking hate the IO bug
siege should do ff dmg imo
It's not a bug, he didn't turn off auto tax collection
You just can't beat China in post-imperial game, the "fast Imperial" dont meant shit if you can't finish China before the clocktower bombard reaches a critical mass, is just unstoppable in the late game.
Rus is the new French? x)
First! Wow i really made it in life, didnt I?
if the Imperial Official has any gold collected, he has to turn it in at TH before he can Supervise.. not a bug
After they drop it off at the tc and you make them supervise something on their way back they will not supervise and instead pick up another piece of tax and continue to go back to the tc. This is a bug
@@TwoMinds2 I play china they always listen to me... idk why people cant figure it out
Please say “decarbonisation up in this bitch” every time you see a player researching it
it seems like so much downtime on the official but he is also mining at a faster rate than 2 villagers on gold
It would be good if you were allowed to relocate your landmarks (aside from mongols) IF you pay the full price once again.
Both Culverin and landsknecht need to be buffed. Culverin should absolutely dominate bombard, it only has that one job. Landsknecht needs to be much cheaper to compensate its squishiness.
BeastyQ said after this tournament he will never stream games again, because he couldn't perform as much as he would've liked, got distracted by Twitch Chat.
At least he's not stopping playing the game overall haha.
Mama..... I looooove you......
I will disagree on more landsknecht in this game. Early on, yes they made a solid impact, but once nest of bees are an expected part of the opponent's army, the landsknecht just get absolutely shredded. You have to take care of the bees before you can retroduce them into your army, else its just a waste of resources.
I'd say bombards need a nerf in general. Their damage against buildings are too insane.
That's their job.. U want to nerf the very thing they are designed to do?
@@apex1615 Yes, this is why devs don't listen to the general public.
@@apex1615 Where did you hear me say I don't want bombards to be powerful against buildings anymore? I'm saying that, for me personally, it would be more enjoyable if they don't wipe out keeps in a matter of seconds. Besides, they also have relatively high hp for such a unit.
Make em 8 seconds of setup time, they will continue to rek buildings but wont be able to shoot and move, shoot and move, they are not tanks.
@@huberteichson8304 I don't think you understand how this game works.
Ah, yes, my boi HRE, very easy to abuse fast castle/imperial with 3-5 relics against less skilled players, but gets weaker the higher up the ladder you go
Still, im hoping for more infantry focused civ in the future like maybe a Japanese Empire
100 samurai card 3 mangonels… advantage mangonels.
Yeah, but if he had put that Regnitz in the back of his base (towards the outer edge of the map), it would never have died in the first place. Not even once. And then he wouldn't have had any Gold problems. Just saying.
beastyqt generally is in the top ten of ladder and this was actually a paid showmatch.. that being said 2tc song into HRE does just cede them a fast imperial tbh.
HRE is an infantry civ for sure but I want more infantry fights. Instead its always siege and horsemen fights. Im sick of siege.
@@LookAtTheBacon The Regnitz is the most important thing for HRE. Defending it is TOP priority.
Drongo I wouldn’t take too much stock into the ladder, both these players are accomplished sc2 pros and the ladder is about a month old
I personally think that HRE is just too weak overall. There is a reason why most of the top 100 players avoid it. Very unfortunate! Thanks for casting!
I feel like people aren't utilizing their civ bonuses properly outside of relics. I also think they have no powerful age 4 unit that makes a big difference.
@@Tai182 They don't have much bonuses outside of relics.
Thats dumb the siege towers can be beat like that, units should just be able to walk through a gate facing the wrong way
I really hope they don't change how the spawning works in this game. I like unique map generation instead of maps that perfectly mirror both sides. That's so boring and predictable. I wish there was even more variability.
20 tears of aoe and never mirror maps, why would they ever even consider changing?
@@Simon-ty1yv Because devs ruin games more often then not these days. Notice how they put in that funny little "You monster" when you kill the sheep. That's cute, but it's not really about being funny. That hint tells you where the devs lean toward.
14:00 OH God the third Reich has returned 😟
Yes, we Germans would never simply say "Das ist mein Relikt."
It always has to be: *"DAS IST MEIN RELIKT!"* 😤
PS: It's "Landsknecht" with an "a" like in "larceny". 🤓
@Foxy Der Unterschied zwischen "Willkommen in Fucking!" und "Welcome to Fucking!"... 😏
I am German and feel attacked. Just kidding
I'm german.
third
Bombards needs a nerf. Seriously, it's disgusting the damage output on buildings. I know it's the essence of it's existence but is too much. There is no room for defense.
Hmm Kelazhur cannot control his units well and lost all his bombards to springs in multiple engagements, very sloppy
You keep talking bad about Rus players but I’m stuck on playing English still lol.
anyone fedup of beasty and kelazhur duels? is there any others pro players?
it also seems like kelazhur is consistently outmatched too :/
@@vladimirstok149 Kelazhur won the series...
@@Matuiss2 wow, impressive, I didn't get the impression he had a style or any long-term vision in both games I saw of him vs beastqt
good for him
What is the point? China early is weak enough. Nerf its late? why not just delete this civ from the game?
How cringe is it that China still won this game because of how fucking broken this nation is due to clocktower.
amount of bugs in this game is disgusting. Love to watch it but they dont deserve my 60$ for a reskin of aoe2
Das ist nicht lustig
Why the hell make fun of germans??