In Australia the pricing goes as followed Nike - Tiempo - $270 Merc and GT - 300/310 depending on collar Adidas - Top end models are $400 predxcop - $460 Take down preds $290/300 Mizuno - $550 Puma - Ultra and one - $280 Lazertouch $300 Kings $320
Living in Asia, Mizuno priced their products fairly similar to other brands. That being said, the issue as Josh said, stock availability. Gonna go with el retorno, really like the design and the story. A cool collector's item. Also Jay; white nike shirt with no 7. Is that hint to new CR7 video? (Cue x-files theme)
As some one who has loved wearing Nike Mercurial Vapors for 10 years and since i decided to take the leap on to the Mizuno Morelia Neo Beta 3, i have never felt so comfortable without sacrificing the performance aspect. For me it's the case of once you go Mizuno there is no going back. Worth every single euro !
Had these mizuno’s in silver/dark blue. Was the leading scorer in super y league that season for the entire country. I cut the tongue off and never looked back. One of the all time great boots
Tried on the Morelia Wave today. What an incredible boot. Very much looking forward to grabbing a pair. Loving El Retorno, great looking boot and I'm ready for the "regular" release.
On the topic of players switching into new boots, I have seen that Luka Modric has not switched to the new Vapor 14's and instead has stuck with the yellow Vapor 13's this season. Having tried both boots, I can understand why Luka may prefer the softer Vapor 13's (especially before breaking in the 14's properly). I know that pro's can get their boots modified (Neymar with the disguised Hypervenom 2's) or make exceptions (Toni Kroos with his trusty 11pro's) but do you guys have any insight as to how boot contracts come into play in situations like this? As well as how companies mediate boot disputes with their players?
My first and second pair of football boots, aged 9, were Mizunos. Around WC98. Then I remember in 2002, the WC magazines had pages of ads and articles about Rivaldo’s Mizunos. Pressure maps of his feet etc. have no idea why I was exposed to Mizuno at such a young age 👹
Great videos guys !!😗 and also you guys should make an entire episode just on mizuno and what you love and why you love it and what else you could improve on it :) and why people just consider getting it AND ALSO jay smiles for a complete minute from 31:45 -32:45
Question: Why have pro’s stopped wearing long sleeve jerseys? Most just wear spandex under their shirt sleeves. Ronaldo has even stopped (except with Portugal). Are brands phasing out long sleeve jerseys?
Hello my Friends. What do you think - which football boots could be better for a similar price as the adidas copa sense.2 for wide feet ? Thank you for your advice !
Did you guys not know specifically about the Returno or the Adidas Speedflow in general? Because leaks for the Speedflow have been out since last Summer.
Already preordered the Speedflow Messi’s !!! I need that lockdown and barefoot touch Leather starts to feel sluggish after a while especially when you play at 8am and the fields are always wet
I really hope they got the lock down right in these. Also hope my feet fir in them, really wanted to try the Carbitex soleplate but my feet wouldn’t fit in the Ghosted.
Why do you think football players don't get the same 'treatment' as NBA players in terms of boots. E.g, LeBron, Kobe, MJ having shoes specifically made for them whereas in football, marketable players like Ronaldo, Neymar, Mbappe only get exclusive colour ways of the same boot that anybody else could wear. Do you think we will ever get players having a hand in creating their own boot & having their name attached to that model?
@@shivjeetparthasarathy4377 yeah but how long did the actual Messi line last for? 2-3 years was it? It was dropped before it could even get started. As for the Nemeziz, I wouldn't consider that his own silo, especially when he wears a modified version compared to others.
Josh mentioned that people pay 275$ for a high end Nike or Adidas boot but if you have been watching Josh for a while, you are probably not paying retail for any boot. I feel like that's an important point when comparing Mizuno's price to Nike and Adidas. You won't find Mizunos at your local Marshalls or Burlington stores.
Well in Japan, people loved Morelia wave. I think in Europe or America they didn’t have Morelia wave. Morelia wave was actually the base of Morelia neo. And these were overtaken by neo’s.
Regarding Nike not launching the new tiempo and phantom gt, I agree with josh but also think because they are not done yet with the final product and the marketing campaign. I’m hoping for them to take their time on creating these new models because they screwed up tiempo 8s and phantom gt and some say the merc 14s aren’t that great either so Nike plz just deliver something good
The new Tiempo 9s aesthetically look better but still not the biggest fan of them using memory foam or other kind of foam like padding under the leather. I really hope they kill the GT 2. If they can get the sizing, lockdown and soleplate down I’ll buy it.
@@hiddenleaf414 Tiempo 9 arent really my cup of tea. Like I wont actually buy one cuz I prefer synthetic. Phantom GT idea was good but imo execution and final product was bad. Even the marketing campaign I didnt like. I wish they can do Phantom T90 or Phantom GTR or smth like that haha just anything thats away from the current phantom gt gen. It rly fkd up my heel I have a deep blister its not going away for the past 6 months and nike did compensate me with free nike vapors14 elites ;) but I am still not playing I went to the dr he says I need surgery. Thx alot for the free mercs tho Nike!
Do you think the Gamemode Synthetic is the easter egg for boot nerds? The return of hybrid touch at 100 dollars, only a hardcore bootnerd would get excited for it and would be so well informed to know this boot is hidden in the "medium-low" price tag. It´s a secret bonus. BTW, will we see it on Unisport, or any place other than USA, soon?
Would adidas be better off or worse off if they made the .1 models their top end boots? Would they get more sales because there’s more money/profit if they make the price the same as the flagship or will they lose sales because of the price rise?
@@josephpedraza1995 I just ordered a pair on Christmas Day and I can't wait for them to come in! They're a size smaller so hopefully I can still fit them but if not I dont mind keeping them on display in my room
Can we get a top 5 mizuno boots from each of you? Including remakes
In Australia the pricing goes as followed
Nike -
Tiempo - $270
Merc and GT - 300/310 depending on collar
Adidas -
Top end models are $400
predxcop - $460
Take down preds $290/300
Mizuno - $550
Puma -
Ultra and one - $280
Lazertouch $300
Kings $320
Yeah what’s up with Australia, your video games also get a $10-$15 price hike up as well.
@@andrewpalmer1873 comes down to countries of where their made, dollar strength of said country and cost of getting the stock to the country too.
This was insightful
Got my pair of Morelia Wave. The quality and comfort level are just top notch
Hey how’s the fit like, I want to get a pair for my self not sure what size to get
@@MarcinhoLuna true to size
@@MarcinhoLuna got mine today excited asf
Living in Asia, Mizuno priced their products fairly similar to other brands. That being said, the issue as Josh said, stock availability. Gonna go with el retorno, really like the design and the story. A cool collector's item.
Also Jay; white nike shirt with no 7. Is that hint to new CR7 video? (Cue x-files theme)
It’s the Poland shirt and there’s no number 7 on it 🙃😃 So... no. Haha. /Jay
yea man the MIJ Morelia Beta is around 250 usd here in Indonesia
we're super lucky lol
As some one who has loved wearing Nike Mercurial Vapors for 10 years and since i decided to take the leap on to the Mizuno Morelia Neo Beta 3, i have never felt so comfortable without sacrificing the performance aspect. For me it's the case of once you go Mizuno there is no going back. Worth every single euro !
Had these mizuno’s in silver/dark blue. Was the leading scorer in super y league that season for the entire country. I cut the tongue off and never looked back. One of the all time great boots
Tried on the Morelia Wave today. What an incredible boot. Very much looking forward to grabbing a pair. Loving El Retorno, great looking boot and I'm ready for the "regular" release.
On the topic of players switching into new boots, I have seen that Luka Modric has not switched to the new Vapor 14's and instead has stuck with the yellow Vapor 13's this season. Having tried both boots, I can understand why Luka may prefer the softer Vapor 13's (especially before breaking in the 14's properly). I know that pro's can get their boots modified (Neymar with the disguised Hypervenom 2's) or make exceptions (Toni Kroos with his trusty 11pro's) but do you guys have any insight as to how boot contracts come into play in situations like this? As well as how companies mediate boot disputes with their players?
My first and second pair of football boots, aged 9, were Mizunos. Around WC98. Then I remember in 2002, the WC magazines had pages of ads and articles about Rivaldo’s Mizunos. Pressure maps of his feet etc. have no idea why I was exposed to Mizuno at such a young age 👹
Great videos guys !!😗 and also you guys should make an entire episode just on mizuno and what you love and why you love it and what else you could improve on it :) and why people just consider getting it AND ALSO jay smiles for a complete minute from 31:45 -32:45
Greetings from Poland. Great shirt J Mike.
Wish they would make a wavecup in different color ways . I want an all white pair
Question: Why have pro’s stopped wearing long sleeve jerseys? Most just wear spandex under their shirt sleeves. Ronaldo has even stopped (except with Portugal). Are brands phasing out long sleeve jerseys?
Yes it started with Nike trying to market their undershirts so they slowly phased them out except for certain players requesting them
Also probably saves a lot of $$$ to only have to make short sleeves jerseys for most of the sales.
@@hiddenleaf414 absolutely, plus a separate product altogether to charge people for
It’s more comfortable wearing the spandex under for most players I’m assuming
Hello my Friends. What do you think - which football boots could be better for a similar price as the adidas copa sense.2 for wide feet ? Thank you for your advice !
i preordered it and im excited to wear them!
Did you guys not know specifically about the Returno or the Adidas Speedflow in general? Because leaks for the Speedflow have been out since last Summer.
Already preordered the Speedflow Messi’s !!! I need that lockdown and barefoot touch
Leather starts to feel sluggish after a while especially when you play at 8am and the fields are always wet
I really hope they got the lock down right in these. Also hope my feet fir in them, really wanted to try the Carbitex soleplate but my feet wouldn’t fit in the Ghosted.
Why do you think football players don't get the same 'treatment' as NBA players in terms of boots. E.g, LeBron, Kobe, MJ having shoes specifically made for them whereas in football, marketable players like Ronaldo, Neymar, Mbappe only get exclusive colour ways of the same boot that anybody else could wear. Do you think we will ever get players having a hand in creating their own boot & having their name attached to that model?
Didn’t Messi have the Messi line in 2015, and then the Nemeziz also was his signature line wasn’t it?
@@shivjeetparthasarathy4377 yeah but how long did the actual Messi line last for? 2-3 years was it? It was dropped before it could even get started. As for the Nemeziz, I wouldn't consider that his own silo, especially when he wears a modified version compared to others.
Josh mentioned that people pay 275$ for a high end Nike or Adidas boot but if you have been watching Josh for a while, you are probably not paying retail for any boot. I feel like that's an important point when comparing Mizuno's price to Nike and Adidas. You won't find Mizunos at your local Marshalls or Burlington stores.
Well in Japan, people loved Morelia wave. I think in Europe or America they didn’t have Morelia wave.
Morelia wave was actually the base of Morelia neo. And these were overtaken by neo’s.
Regarding Nike not launching the new tiempo and phantom gt, I agree with josh but also think because they are not done yet with the final product and the marketing campaign. I’m hoping for them to take their time on creating these new models because they screwed up tiempo 8s and phantom gt and some say the merc 14s aren’t that great either so Nike plz just deliver something good
The new Tiempo 9s aesthetically look better but still not the biggest fan of them using memory foam or other kind of foam like padding under the leather.
I really hope they kill the GT 2. If they can get the sizing, lockdown and soleplate down I’ll buy it.
@@hiddenleaf414 Tiempo 9 arent really my cup of tea. Like I wont actually buy one cuz I prefer synthetic. Phantom GT idea was good but imo execution and final product was bad. Even the marketing campaign I didnt like. I wish they can do Phantom T90 or Phantom GTR or smth like that haha just anything thats away from the current phantom gt gen. It rly fkd up my heel I have a deep blister its not going away for the past 6 months and nike did compensate me with free nike vapors14 elites ;) but I am still not playing I went to the dr he says I need surgery. Thx alot for the free mercs tho Nike!
Nice shirt Jay ! Great choice :)
That new mizuno is sick!!!!
Do you think the Gamemode Synthetic is the easter egg for boot nerds? The return of hybrid touch at 100 dollars, only a hardcore bootnerd would get excited for it and would be so well informed to know this boot is hidden in the "medium-low" price tag. It´s a secret bonus. BTW, will we see it on Unisport, or any place other than USA, soon?
Don’t fuck w/ the tongue Mizuno! love it
Predcopx for that money!
I can’t tell if that’s primeknit or a mesh material for the lacing system
9:48 All techwear geeks felt this one
Messi or Ronaldo to you (Both are 🐐's)
Would adidas be better off or worse off if they made the .1 models their top end boots?
Would they get more sales because there’s more money/profit if they make the price the same as the flagship or will they lose sales because of the price rise?
Dam it. I'm returning my ghosted .1
What replacement laces do you recommend for Mizunos?
Wavecups best boots ever
People who say mizuno is too expensive are just people who haven't tried mizuno.
Is the new el reterno good because Messi is not wearing them
he wearing them in copa america
Plis review ortuseight fg thanks
Do y’all know when I’ll get my El Retornos? I ordered them the day they came out so I’m just curious
Have you got them yet?
@@slams10 yea I got them in August
@@slams10 they’re absolutely amazing
@@josephpedraza1995 I just ordered a pair on Christmas Day and I can't wait for them to come in! They're a size smaller so hopefully I can still fit them but if not I dont mind keeping them on display in my room
El Retorno all the way 🔥🔥🔥 (they should lower the price tho)
Pliss review specs fg ...
Mizuno because I can afford them now 🤣🤣
I grew up with copas/adipures
Ahhh the Adipure 3 were one of my favorite leather boots of all time besides the earlier Tiempo’s.
@@hiddenleaf414 I have the 4 SL but wanted the gold 3s. They were sold out by then
Messi still hasnt worn them, looks like he prefers the Nemeziz
He’s wearing them now for the copa America
@@user-nd6sw7ln3n where
@@numairahmad7326 training
Probably pretty hard to switch boots right before one of his biggest tournaments of his life. Plus the boots aren’t anything similar to each other.
You can actually see him wearing them on the last couple of training sessions
The adidas boat should have been called the "has-been boat".
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