How to Throw Forehands Farther | Disc Golf for Beginners
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- The forehand is an interesting throw. It seems like you either start out a predominant forehand player, or you go for a long time without ever picking it up. Having a solid forehand throw in the bag enables you to attack a multitude of courses, but just like the backhand we all often want one thing with this throw...more distance.
So how does one go about gaining distance on a forehand? The mechanics of a great forehand can be quick to learn but long to master, especially when we start talking distance. I believe the easiest way to learn a max distance forehand is to go back to the basics. What exactly does that mean? You'll have to watch to find out!
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:53 Let's Get Into It
1:18 Quick Fix Method
3:32 Best Method
4:05 Step 2
5:34 Step 3
6:21 Final Step
7:13 Wrap Up - กีฬา
Thanks once again Robbie. My surgeon still has my backhand throws limited to less than 150 ft so I will not reinjure my bicep but has given the forehand an all clear earlier this week. As a predominantly rhbh chucker with a far less than serviceable flick I need a lot of instruction and field work. Well, let me tell you that the drills you have in this vid has helped so very much. In just a few throws I was chuckin' the Heat and Leopard 3 smoothly and further than I have before. While my injury has kept me out of the tournament scene, you and the guys at Overthrow have been putting out quality, helpful content that, I believe, will help me reach my DG goals. Thanks again.
i think what makes your channel so great is that i can tell how much you find joy in making your videos. This is your passion and you’re good at it. Keep up the good work!
This is exactly my struggle. Really excited to go to the field now and test this out. Love your content.
THIS was the forehand video I needed. THANK YOU!
I needed this. I'm 6months into the game forehand has always been more natural to me. But as my disc beat in my forehand went to crap. What started as a solid right hook became a unintentional roller. I'm definitely going to use this to figure out my bag and get back to loving my forehand. It just feels so much more natural, especially in the woods where I can look forward and pick a target.
Store clerk inner voice: “You’re not that guy pal, you’re not that guy” 🤣 loved the video
Love the vids, please never stop doing the opening skits they're amazing!
Robbie C has to be the chilliest dude in disc golf.
It’s like you knew what I’m trying to practice! Thanks for the great video, Robbie.
Great video. You really break it down and give good practice tips.
Fantastic, high quality tutorial. Love the channel
Thank you for this I am still working on the basics but I look forward to this video.
Great video .
As a beginner like myself i just love it.
Keep up the good work..
Exceptionally helpful.
This was extremely helpful. Previously I was only manging to get one or two stable discs to work on a forehand, but I went out yesterday with just understable discs and the main points of this video - et voila! Looking forward to properly developing this part of my game now. Thank you.
Quality advice as always! I'm heading to the park right after work!
Old 4 digit duffer here. Solid backhand player for many years. One day a few years ago I started losing confidence in my backhand. To the point that I knew I had to do something or give up the game. So I began developing a forehand game. I'm a much better golfer now than I ever was before. I can do things with a disc forehand that I could never do backhand. Shot under par for the first time the last time I played. Always looking for pointers to improve my drive. Distance is my problem. Can't crack 300'. I'll keep you're ideas in mind when I'm out on the course.
Great stuff. I am eager to try this out.
I just started throwing under stable backhands a few weeks ago. I haven't tried throwing under stable forehand much but after watching this video and how Nate Sexton rips a Sidewinder, I'm all the more eager to learn!
Definitely going to try these tips out.
Makes sense. I’m going try this out!
Thanks man. I will try that technique.
Hey Robbie! I loved your video on when you're ready to throw distance drivers, could you do a follow-up on when you're ready for midranges? For uber beginners like myself?
This guy doesn't miss. Great video once again
The newbie anhyzer flex forehand! It's like you've seen my game. I even use the destroyer. This channel is the place that politely let me know that this is a little cheat code with limited value outside of that one line. Thanks for cluing me in before I threw my shoulder out for that sweet sweet 280 feet. Hard not to do when your other stuff dies at 220. Am I still gonna do it way too much? Absolutely. But now I no longer confuse it with actually learning proper disc throwing. Thanks Robbie
Literally needed this today
Just literally thinking about it as more of an under hand style really clicks in my head! Thx!
Great video as always RC! Need a new Birdie throw in at the end though, same dudes been on the last few videos! LOL. Adding in here that your videos are my favorite! Love the passion, humor and creativity and wish I lived closer to grab a round with you!
Very informative
Have a lot to work on to learn fore hand throws now.
Thanks
I love the bowling analogy, as a collegiate bowler and a relatively new disc golfer it made a great analogy for me.
I've followed disc golf youtube videos for well over a year, always wanted to play. Finally started playing a few weeks ago (have about 3-4 rounds under my belt so far) and I just wanna say I'm very glad I stumbled upon your channel. Everything I've watched from you has been incredibly informative and helpful (plus the humor helps) so I just wanted to take a second to say thank you for what you do and keep it up!
Well I hope your first few rounds are amazing!! Thank You for the kind words!
@@RobbieCDiscgolf no problem, thank you for the response... first round was pretty awful lol.. but ive only improved every time i've gone out so that's good i guess.. still cant figure out how to properly throw a forehand, even with all these videos.. it just doesnt feel right coming off my finger(s) -_-
Breaking Point Angle is super close to the bowling term of Break Point for hook bowling (the moment the ball changes direction toward the head pin)
Robbie, you must have watched my last few rounds and decided to make this, because...I feel attacked. But in reality, this is something that I had identified that I needed to work on so this video was perfectly timed.
After spending around 45 minutes at the park throwing some stage 1 forehand spike hyzers, I must say that it wasn't very exciting. But I was pretty darned happy to have done it, and will continue to do so because I'm extremely confident that the ultimate outcome will be well worth it. I even used my understable "F2 Friday" drivers...but that's another Robbie C episode...
I love this. Huge fan here. I am a big forehand guy myself. I can't get enough speed or control on a backhand. I just do what you said in an older video where I just use my arm and wrist and I get it to go pretty far under control. Now I need to do this so I can start to gain distance.
Well, sir, I’m a few weeks into this, at what I’d call “angle 3” of the four angles you described, under-stable discs only, stand still. Indeed I can now throw said discs with consistency at around 180’. Not monster throws to be certain, but pretty darned good considering where I started. This stuff works when put into practice! Thanks!
This drill completely changed my forehand. I used to have zero confidence in the consistency of my forehand and after this hyzer drill, it all just clicked. Absolute game changer. Thank you so much.
I feel like super overstable discs got the job done when i needed it as a beginner, and thats how i learned my form. Then i really escalated my game watching your previous forehand video finishing my throws palm up. Now i get forehands out to 400 and my max being 525. The Boss is my go to for distance!
Great video... Now I need to watch it again and take notes for my next fieldwork session. Tryna learn a forehand out here. #allthethings
Thanks for using bowling comparison. I'm a bowler looking for something since my local center closed down
Thanks to your vids I’ve been successfully reworking my game.
I self taught more distance using the first method you described and my mid/putter forehands all nearly turned into rollers.
Hoping to try out relearning tomorrow!
When I came in the shop talking about working on forehands today I had no idea that you had put this video out!
I just started back handing cause I've got a bad elbow so I usually always forehand, so I use a Leopard3, Teebird, and Destroyer.
Something I recently learned was the amount of speed you put on a disc matters too.
My buddy and I will say "Im throwing a 7 speed like it was a 9 speed," this gives us a little flex in our shots and with my leopard3 it travels left instead of the right which helps cause I can't drive backhand and need the right line threw some trees.
Hope this helps, your content has helped me so I'm paying it forward.
Thanks for this. I throw nice forehand approach shots with my Mako, but struggle for distance off the tee.
Never been able to throw a forehand. I'm gonna take some comets and meteors to the field and start practicing this all off season. Thanks
as someone whose been playing under a year these tips helped me learn to throw a forehand with confidence: 1- think of skipping a rock, its similar to that (lead with elbow). 2- (from Overthrow disc golf forearm series on youtube) Imagine how you would throw a hammer sideways on a similar angle- its the same release and wrist flick action to throw a disc forehand, imagine the disc has a hammer going through it and you gotta hinge and sling it as such. These tips alone helped me to be able to immediately throw as far as I can throw backhand, getting the release angle right and consistent is a whole other problem for me though.
This sounds a lot wiser than my method of throwing forehand only tee shots until my elbow felt like it was going to fall apart.
practiced throwing my valk since i started on may 10th this year , threw a crazy ace forehand just like you described on aug 23rd takes time but you can have a sick forehand in time
Forehand capability is a must. Anyone who has played competetively knows you at least have to have a forehand game for scrambling. These are good tips for practice, for sure. Just like a backhand throw, disc and nose angle are crucial, and technique will get your disc farther than power. Great video!
Awesome video! Perfect timing, for me. Had been planning to throw forehand, upshots, the next time I did field work. Thanks for the tips!😃
Just got back from the field. Worked like a charm. My forehands had been coming out with a bad anhyzer. By working back to flat, from a hard hyzer, I figured out that what feels like a slight hyzer, to me, is actually flat. Hence the anhyzer releases.
Also, it actually seemed easier to get understable fairway drivers and mids, to hyzer flip, forehand, than backhand.
Thanks again for the info!
I love the points you made in this video brother, and you touched on it briefly, but I would like you to talk more about arm angles in one of the next couple videos you do on the subject of forehands. I think there are a lot of people out there that don't realize the importance of arm angles during your throw. GREAT video tho brother 👌👏 keep up the good work! I wish I would've had you as a resource about ten years ago when I started 😅 I think my game would've progressed much quicker if I did!!
My friends and I dubbed the overstable anhyzer flex throw the “AM4 flex” because of how prevalent it is at that level (with both throws, but especially forehands).
My favorite forehand disc is a flat top DX Roc. Straight 250 by just flipping it up from a bit of hyzer.
You’re dope, dude!
.....and sadly ripping on a forehand makes my shoulder scream. I now use it for utility shots and sometimes even my approach shot.... Another great video, Robbie!
Absolutely spot on. I started throwing forehand with a nuke os, and now when I try to throw a photon, destroyer, etc... I roll my wrist half the time. DO NOT DO THE FIRST METHOD it will hurt you in the long run
Looks like its time to do some field work for me. I keep wanting to baseball throw when I forehand. I'm that terrible form guy right now lol. Time to go fix that, thanks Robbie.
The best forehand tip I've ever gotten on forehand is more spin! Sounds dumb but the more you can spin it the less it wobbles. To get more spin its simple! It's like snapping a towel once your hand reaches the peak snap your hand back. Great for touch putter shots too
This also applies to backhand, you just see it happen more with forehand. If you throw a disc 100mph with no spin it will go about 40ft
I found this video very helpful
I'm so glad!
So as in a Captain I would put it on a hyzier angle like I would a backhand? Or something like an archangel on that same hyzier line?
What sort of advice do you have for forehand shots that get the wobbles. I've heard and tried to make sure finish palm up (ie not turning wrist over) but as I've tried to add distance I've come into this issue more.
I started disc golf last year with a Boss and learned to crank over on it for what i thought were awesome flex shots but nowadays i can't break the habit and my forehands have gone to shit with the ridiculous wobble. So i decided to learn left hand back hand and its going pretty well but I'd still like to get a nice forehand without wobble so I'm gonna be trying these tips soon. Thanks!
This is how I started, all along knowing my form wasn't great. The way I worked out of it was practicing 100-150ft approach shots. These are mainly just wrist flick shots and will train you to use proper wrist snap to get the wobble out. The wobble is caused by not putting enough spin on the disc. So slow your arm speed down, throw some neutral mids straight and without wobble and then move up. Whenever I have a crappy forehand shot now, I know I had too much are speed and not enough wrist action to get the proper amount of spin on the disc.
I was going to ask when you were going to do a flick video. You read my mind! I agree with everything you're saying. I started an a anhyzer angle to get max distance and now it's hard to release flat. Reach back doesn't matter as much with a forehand, its all about the follow through!
Disagree about the reach back. The physics is that of a whip, a karate chop. Try either of those with more or less coil. Yes, dont straighten the elbow like a backhand, it stays at 90 degrees, but the elbow can and should leave the ribs, just like a baseball throw "reaches back" on the coil, max shoulder rotation to create tension in the core.
@@michaelcushman I do agree with what you're saying. I'm just stating it's not as important as it is in backhand. Watch how mcbeth throws his forehand.
i watch all of these videos and get my hopes up because it looks like an easy fix to my form and i'll still throw spike anhyzers immediately into the ground almost every time.... but every once in a while i'll get a good release and it just *chefs kiss" flies straight into the nearest tree.
Is there a reasonable timeline regarding the transition through the 4 angles? For example, does the “spike hyzer” first angle take from 3 to 5 field sessions, or simply until it feels right? Probably not a perfect answer, but any recommended rule of thumb?
Great advice. Love going to a small course and seeing people chopping Halo Destroyers and Forces over on 250' wide open holes.
As a follow up, I'm not judging or saying anyone is wrong for doing so. Whatever works best for your game. I too fell into the trap of trying to throw what the pros throw well before I could throw a putter 200 ft. Evolve at your own pace and above all else enjoy this great sport.
This is so true, and is how I started my forehand, with flippy putters, I love hyper flips. But now I feel like I can’t throw anything stable, cause I can’t stop hyzer them..
i had to learn trow sidearm hyzer due tennis elbow i accumulated whit my baseball style power sidearm. these days i sidearm discs like trasher that is so flippy that it goes from neaar spike hyzer to flat to anny and fades out. it feels funny when i release whit steep hyzer and it rides anny most of flight, but flies dead straight.
At what point do you move from understable discs to straight ones?
Quick horrendous way!! Sign me up
Does this same system work for forehands.... ish?
I learned throwing fh by flexing a stable destroyer. I think it helped me learn how to get a clean release and work on foot work/mechanics. I then moved to a z thrasher and a champ mamba and learned how to fh hyzer flip. I can now flip up Destroyers, Thunderbirds etc. with a power fh out to 375’. Not pro level but it’s consistent an I can hit lines.
That said I want to throw further so I’ll continue watching
We all have to learn our own way! I'm stoked to hear for you that you were able to get to that smooth flat release coming from the other direction!
@@RobbieCDiscgolf I think what you recommend in this video is probably a better way to learn it. I’ll admit the flex was a crutch for a bit before I started playing with hyzer flips
This is how I throw forehands! I throw almost exclusively hyzers (and flat shots sometimes) combined with engaging my legs like a pitcher, and I can break 400’ pretty consistently without ever hurting myself
Wish I could like this more than once. Pretty sure my current skill plateau is about to be crushed.
If you did learn using the smash a flex forehand method and dont have the touch, start incorporating lighter discs and it will help you learn to smooth out your throw. I.E. instead of 174 Halo Destroyers, try a 160 Blizzard Destroyer. Youll still be overstable range, but they will not handle the torque of a Halo.
Hi Robbie I’m starting up playing , I get a sore arm while throwing, why is this
As someone who struggles to throw on anhyzer both on backhand and forehand, PREACH!!
I do need to get out and practice with my slower discs though, love this method of finding the breaking point.
Good advice. I'm in the 350 to 400 range on a good forehand just past one year of playing and I just struggled through getting there. I should have worked up to it like this lol
Field work: what a good method for Forehand, to maximize learning, and progression? I do two days of Fieldwork all RHBH. I try forehand stuff, but don’t really know what and how to improve.
My biggest advice would be to worry less about distance initially, but instead accuracy and smoothness. It's not hard to throw a forehand 250+, but it's really hard for a lot of of players to throw a forehand precisely where they want. Practicing accuracy will force you to have a smooth forehand throw
Keep your sessions short and directed. Focus on angle control, spin, height, footwork, accuracy, flight line, distance. But don't overload too many into one session. Get something that's neutral to understable(I always suggest DD convict) and learn to control the spin, angle, turn and fade on that. Then you'll be able to do ANYTHING with a felon/firebird, etc.
Approx how many of each of the angles would you suggest or how do you know when you are ready to goto the next angle?
I’d say there are about 4 between the extreme hyzer and the flat shot! And it’s just till it feels smooth and natural!
6:43 does he use some Anhyzer here? Very hard to see.
So, what are good Innova discs that do this??
Leopard. Makos.
I'd also recommend Valkyries, Sidewinders, Roadrunners, and Wombat3's!
OK, now I just have to learn to throw a forehand in the first place 😅
The grip is my problem
1 finger is easier for me but don’t go as far
2 fingers are getting better but my thumb placement is a problem my run up was a problem and getting it flat was a problem
I always threw forehands on a hyzer upshot. Recently, due to wind,
I’ve been driving with them. Now my
Forehand is crazy unpredictable. I don’t know what’s going to happen. They fly straight to left when they used to go left to right, or they just bury themselves. I was better before I started listening to advice. That, or I need better technique. Haha.
Yeah I'm that guy I'm that guy
A Smooth release helps the most because you lose a lot of distance and accuracy if it's wobbling from the beginning
oh no.. i'm that guy... lol i've been working on my forehand too, are you following me around or something?
Was that true north disc golf??????
nah... i'm just going to continue to think like James :D
Weird flex, but ok I'm glad yall got a kick out of it. I see you. Come see me. OKC. And yet the best known westide player is the overstable flex champ. Bring some cameras.
Come see you in OKC? I am confused by this comment.
@@RobbieCDiscgolf ask Melany?
This, this, this, this, this 🤣
What if you are 56 YO and it hurts your shoulder to throw FH?
Throw easier! I'm a 31 year old, but have had consistent issues with my right shoulder/elbow from tennis and baseball growing up. But! I've found I can throw
start with your wrist. Do wrist flick forehands (with some elbow) for upshots. Then slowly add in more a shoulder depending on how it feels. I can't throw a full forehand or overhand due to shoulder problems. But just a flick of up to 200 ft really opens up some great upshots.
Also...in place of some forehand lines, I'll throw a roller as it will finish in the same direction. Not as accurate, but better than nothing.
It’s me. I’m the guy who has used the overstable easy fix. Saw a video of my forehand form yesterday and…🤮
Don’t mind me walking to the nearest field
Slow down and throw lighter discs. Even Ricky’s forehand discs are between 166-169
A much better way to smooth out your forehand and gain more distance is learn how to throw a putter forehand.
I can't throw a forehand 100 feet.
Time to start working on that sky spike hyzer!
I was able to throw my Valkyrie 179ft yesterday. It also reminded me of why I haven't done much field work lately, because I must have sweat out a gallon of sweat.
First... I hate people like me that comment first lol
But seriously, I really need to work on my forehand and will definitely try out your tips.
That was me the last two videos lol