How to Get 220v From 110v
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How to Get 220v From 110v How to easily get 240V for your welder with just two 120V outlets. I DO NOT RECOMMEND TRYING THIS UNLESS YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH YOUR SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT! This video is a DEMONSTRATION OF WHAT WORKS FOR MY EQUIPMENT ONLY! I do not recommend you build the exact device like I did in this video. I would recommend you hire a professional for your electrical needs. The wire size should be capable of carrying the amps your breakers are rated at and the breakers should be tied together so they will both trip together. The device I built in this video, regardless of the actual components is only good for a 15 amp device. My particular welder (on the settings I use) draws 15 amps or less and that is why I am able to use the device I built in this video without burning up the leads. I have measured the amp draw of my welder so I know exactly what amps it uses at my settings. Just be aware if you are not sure or just don't know what your device draws, it's possible you may have dangerous results trying to duplicate my version of this device. You could be seriously hurt or killed if you are not sure what you are doing. Enjoy the video but be safe!
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Honestly I'm a Electrician for 30+ yrs now, and if you have the knowledge to do that, you should REALLY run a separate 240v from your panel, brother I've seen so many mistakes, problems, and fires/ shocking wires/shorts. Please dont do this, a welder, air compressor, anything 220v/240v need it own dedicated circuit/ outlet, not shared in anyway. Please fix it right and be safe , God bless.
Daren from south Florida
The reason to run a dedicated 240v is if one side shorts both breakers will trip shutting down both legs. With this setup you could trip one breaker and cause the voltage to drop to 120v and fry any 240v item you are using, at the least it won't work correctly. Seems like he knows just enough to get in trouble...
This might work in a pinch but not a safe way to do it!
Agree. By the time/material/compromised safety is figured in , you could buy the romex, box, breaker and outlet . Especially a welder is going heat up those stranded wires and rubber coating.
Agree 100%. This will work, but its not worth the risk. Do it to code. Be safe
V8SKULLS amen! This is a horrible idea. The breakers also will not work right.
Exactly. He's deinventing the wheel.
If you installed two 120VAC outlets on seperate phases, why not just install one 220 VAC outlet ?
Why not just put one 50 amp breaker in the Box instead of jerry-rigging two that only goes to 20 amps Max? I installed a heavy duty cord from my basement out to my garage and a 50 amp breaker so I could use my welder, it works great and it's a safe way of doing it and it wasn't terribly expensive, I could do the work myself.
That's what I was thinking
@@airgliderz no offense but I've always learned best by mistakes despite all my schooling courses and certs I just learn best by fn up lol
@@airgliderz I really don't see why this doesn't work or isn't safe ? I'll have to watch the link to his other video for why its bad... greetings from fixitchris123go from paducah ky
Was just thinking that
As an electrician I do not condone the use of a gadget like this. It would be best to either set a sub panel and branch out your 120vac and 220vac circuits or just run a separate 220vac circuit for the welder.
Glad it works for you, but I've seen to many fires started by gadgets like this to justify its use.
Agreed
Serious question.. How does a fire start? The device is pulling too much currant than what the wires can handle? And why doesn't it trip the breaker?
But what would I know I have made a welder out of microwave ovens and am currently working on one using several 36vdc 245watt solar panels as the power source so take it for what it is.
That's an ugly hack. Why run 2 120 V circuits when you can just run one 240 V circuit?
"I've seen" "too many" translates to someone told me about this guy one time.
The problem with combining 2 separate 120 volts outlets to create a single 240 volt outlets is that it violates the safety feature of using a 2 pole breaker in that if one breaker trips, the other one stays hot meaning that there is still a safety hazard present in your device. Whereas, with a 2 pole breaker, if one side trips it automatically drives the other side to the off position thereby eliminating all potential electrical safety ⚠️ hazards.
If one trips, the other almost SURELY will trip as well.
I don't understand how this can be any better than installing a 240 volt outlet in the first place. There is a safety concern too with the two breakers involved.
its not installed, its a temporary device. it doesnt actually violate code. code doesnt cover temporary appliances. only permanent ones.
@@DieselRamcharger Agree... it's only used temporarily for one thing or another; maybe an industrial floor sander that requires 240v
@@starmc26 Do you know how many people have died from "almost surely" situations?
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How to Get 220v From 110v How to easily get 240V for your welder with just two 120V outlets. I DO NOT RECOMMEND TRYING THIS UNLESS YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH YOUR SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT! This video is a DEMONSTRATION OF WHAT WORKS FOR MY EQUIPMENT ONLY! I do not recommend you build the exact device like I did in this video. I would recommend you hire a professional for your electrical needs. The wire size should be capable of carrying the amps your breakers are rated at and the breakers should be tied together so they will both trip together. The device I built in this video, regardless of the actual components is only good for a 15 amp device. My particular welder (on the settings I use) draws 15 amps or less and that is why I am able to use the device I built in this video without burning up the leads. I have measured the amp draw of my welder so I know exactly what amps it uses at my settings. Just be aware if you are not sure or just don't know what your device draws, it's possible you may have dangerous results trying to duplicate my version of this device. You could be seriously hurt or killed if you are not sure what you are doing. Enjoy the video but be safe!
Hi thanks for the helpful video I'm one of your subscriber.im in Alberta Canada I'm planing to build one as I use my tiny arc welder ( Hitbox ) I'm only used it once In a while,I'm just getting some info how was your 220 now is there any issues or problems ?
Thank in advance
I'm glad you added this detail about the breakers being tied together, so they could trip together? That is true!
Obviously, no reason for me to point out the breaker issue now...
Hello jm kc. Since I made this video I have sold that house and moved to a new shop. During the time I used the adaptor at the garage in the video it worked well for me without any issues. I never tripped a breaker and I didn't burn my house down as many have told me in the comments. It just worked and didn't ever give me any negative issues. I would recommend if you plan to build one, that you use a larger gauge wire than I did just for safety sake. If I were to make another one, I think I would use Romex with a minimum of 12 gauge wire (yellow insulation here) just to be safe. I did check the extension cord leads I used on mine after every welding session. I just grabbed them with my hand to see if they were getting hot and they never did. I think the ( Hitbox) is basically the same welder as my Juba ZX7-200 so my guess is you should have similar results. Good luck to you and happy welding my friend.
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12 gage wire is a good safe bet. 14 g isn't really enough? 10 g is difficult to work with! I don't want to get into how difficult, if it's also direct burial!
itsdatruff - I really don't know about utilizing two 120V inverters tied together to create a 240V circuit as I have never done that. I suppose it is possible using the same principles I have on my combiner but I don't know for sure. The biggest problem I see is how to make them both trip at the same time if you have an issue with the AC unit. I don't know what that would do to the inverters or the AC unit. That's a completely different situation compared to a small welder like I used. My little welder only draws power for a short period of time say 1 or 2 minutes then it's basically idle for a longer period of time. This has a much lower demand on the 240V circuit compared to running an AC unit constantly for hours at a time. That will have a much higher demand on the circuit, batteries and inverters. Sorry I can't answer your question but I just haven't tried anything like that so I can't give you any real advice.
The outlets have to be on different bus bars, not just different circuits.
1:53 into the video he pointed out the two receptacles were on separate lines and he demonstrated that putting the meter on the two lines would give 240V
Thanks 😊
Exactly!!
@@rydfree Just separate lines is not enough. One line must be from a breaker on the left side of panel and one plug must be supplied from breaker on the right side of the panel. Only get 240V if this is the case.
thats what i was realizing and it was not mentioned specifically. Although his individual testing would have signaled the problem.
I have a factory made UL listed chord that does this very thing you plug into 2 separate 110v and it comes together on the chord to give 220v we use it on a hardwood floor sander when there’s no 220v avbl on jobs . Lots of people say they never seen anything like this but we’ve ran for years and hav had no issues
Where did you get it?
Where did you get this? What is it called?
And what is the amperage the sander is pulling?
Probably nothing near what the welder will pull.
I'd love to see a UL listing for a cheater plug.
Excellent video!!! Thank you for really doing a great job explaining how to do that. I'm always amazed at how fascinating electrical can be, especially when I can begin to understand it.
Again appreciate you and you knowledge.
Sincerely,
Randy Chavez
I came for the comments and wasn't disappointed.
I think all power outlet should not be on same lines as lights - when outlet trip the light goes out and it hard to find your way to power supply box in dark.
Never seen so many electricians, in one place 😂
How much current does that welder draw, hope it's less than 20A.
Why don’t you just install a 240v Outlet on a 30 amp double pole breaker? Just seems safer to me.
What would be the fun in that? Nobody would watch that.
Or put in a proper welder outlet using a 50 Amp double pole breaker and #6 wire and a ground.
@@gravelydon7072 depend on the welder, not every welder require 50amp, some only need 30amp.
Actually, this way double protects the circuit. It’s overkill.
That's no fun
Got a 240v welder running in my carport now thanks. This works excellent
For my own home I would just run another 220 line from my panel. Plenty of room in there yet. In fact, there is a 220 line for an electric dryer in the laundry room that has never been used, we have always had natural gas dryer that plugs into 110 for the drum and ignition. But I like the idea. Thanks for the informative video.
Thanks. I would put an additional disclaimer right at the front of the video saying that you are doing this at your own risk, for those who don't bother to read the description pinned below the video.
Main concern is you're relying on two separate breakers for one device. One breaker trips you still have power on the other circuit feeding that outlet. Easier and safer to run another circuit to a double pole breaker assuming there's space in the panel for a double pole breaker. Your welder should have a rating lable on it.
Easier, safer, and cheaper. +If the house burns down with the current setup, good luck on collecting the insurance.
If one breaker pops the load will pop the second very quickly
In my case it is not easier. My box is a floor down and on the other side of the house. I think that’s the type of thing this helps with. I do agree it is still questionable though from a safety aspect.
If one breaker pops, the circuit in the heavy outlet is gone. No completed circuit means no power.
@@rickhuis3773 no it will not. One breaker tripping breaks the circuit so no more current will flow (assuming a 240 V load) and the other breaker will not trip, but the other breaker staying on keeps one line live... which is a safety hazard.
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enjoyed your video just what I was looking for the problem I have is will this do harm to your on/off switch I have a plasma cuter it has 120/v and you are supposed to be able to use the same switch to use 240 v for heavier material the wiring may not be heavy enough
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That’s just a pipe dream.
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I have many versions of these running a DJ service since my amplifiers draw up to 20 amps at 240 volts. Good idea in a pinch for temporary situations. I also use a combi 2 15 amp parallel combiner to 30 amp 120 volt twist lock for some of my older amplifiers - but be careful, you can backfeed with the parallel splitter. Be aware and familiar with site wiring or test site wiring to prevent someone from plugging in 2 1500 watt coffee makers to one of the backfed circuits. I've made automatic protected versions so if one of the cords disconnects either of the disconnected cord male ends aren't live if something is turned on.
Great for temporary setups…
No it isnt
Good info, didn't realize the bus bars were setup this way, thought the left was one phase and the right was the other. This makes much more sense.
@@drewreed4639there is no such thing as phases in a breaker panel, residential home wiring is split single phase at the pole
Hey thank you, getting older and hips wider, doing more and more with out any males around, getting good solid instructions is right in time, because i had a fire and now wired my stove, and since dont have 220 yet, want to use it with 110, and that just today knew i needed what you shared. Blessings, great solid video.
Why not just run 240 line from the main circuit box?
what if its a 120 or 110 voltage come in the panel
He meant if you don't have existing 240V line, you can improvise to his method.
It's about creativity and think differently.
@@seanjamaica5308 220 is just 2 110 circuits. In the box, a 220 breaker is basically just a 2 pole breaker each supplying 110.
@@briensickler8109 I like your explanation.
I've been an electrician for 43 yrs, I don't recommend this at all, especially if there are other devices sharing either one of these circuits.you could expose other 120v devices to 240v.and even if your lucky enough to get away with it you should have doubled up your wire size by combining the whit and black wires together on the plugs it would handle more amps and that wire you were using didnt look like # 12 wire to me.I'm not trying to pee on your parade but this is dangerous.In the interest of what I just said I just did this on my test bench and its very possible to feed 240 back to other devices on either of those circuits, If I was a youtuber i would show this experiment to prove my point.
The reason this is unsafe has to do with circuit breakers. A 220V or 240V breaker will disconnect power to both of the hot legs in tandem, but the rig in this video is such that only one leg might have its breaker trip while the other leg might not trip.
Wire size is based on amps not volts. As long as the device only draws 20 amps, the 12 gauge wire size is not a problem. An electrician should know this.
no wires in this setup will normally carry more than 120v, only at the very end when they are combined in the device does it see 240v. Also i wonder if he should have put some sort of 240v circuit breaker into his device to make it safer, likely even GFI since its sort of outside.
Yea I thought this was questionable.
Yep yep. Well said. Common sense goes a long way
I Love how u think, keep on dreaming up DIY options & sharing, this is useful knowledge thank you
Thank you so much. well done and very easy to understand.waiting for your future video
Hahahaha the little welding machine I was waiting for like a Lincoln Miller comercial ones
Had to improvise one a long time ago with no real knowledge. And my hunch was right it Ffffin Worked. And believe me when I tell you. There isn't a room in the house I haven't welded something in.
I don't believe you . What kind of house do you live in ? I've lived in my house 42 years and have never needed to weld anything in any room. Of course my garage is detached. I'm guessing you're joking.
thank you for sharing and for safety precautions!
Does a 20A breaker designed for 120V perform to spec when part of a 240V circuit? Will it trip at the same current threshold?
I'm surprised there are so many comments that don't seem to understand it's an improvise to get 220 volts without running tens of feet of heavy gauge wire from a panel and meant for light-duty or temporary work by the person who made the junction box. It's easily unplugged and put in a drawer till needed.
SL: Exactly. People get hung up on running 220 from the box. Thats not what this vid is about, its about using what you have to get you by.
As some people pointed out, for SOME reason, there was a short or if he loads the circuit with higher than 20amps, there is IMHO VERY good chance that only 1 breaker will trip causing 110v to be supplied to whatever appliance he is using causing POSSIBLE brown out load to the appliance causing it to fail. If it is cheap appliance, then I guess not much harm done but I would not use this setup without another 20amp 220v inline breaker which is set to trip first so that both lines are cut off at same time. Also, he is using very short line which makes "portability" not as good, if so, why not just install dedicated line.
Ingenious idea Bruce.
Thanks 👍
Awesome, very good explaining
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Test the theroy. unplug one side with the device plugged in and check the voltage from the right plug to the ground. It should be 0. if its 123 then you know the device is passing voltage.
Could actually damage the welder. depending on its internals.
Thank you mister Darwin !
I've got an adapter at work that I built specifically to *test* 240 V devices with only 120 V outlets. Easy to build, but as noted in another comment, not suitable for something that will run continuously or unattended. Yes, "safer" to run a proper 240 line from a 240 V dual breaker in the box -- but for my (and my shop's) needs, it was the only option. It hasn't been used much -- twice, I think, in more than ten years -- but like I say about various other stuff I've made there: "When you need it, nothing else will work."
Would this work if plugged into 2 separate 12v dc to 120v ac power inverters.
12v solar battery bank to 2 separate 120v power inverter, going into a Panel. 120v on each terminal. Neutral bar tied to ground in panel? Ground tied to copper rod going into earth.
I know the panel could provide 120v to single breakers, but could it handle a double pole breaker at 240? Assuming I had a large enough battery bank and power inverters size to handle the load.
The two 120v power inverter running of same battery bank.
If it matters ... ? The 2 120 vac conductors may be unbalanced especially if it is Romex cable or conductors otherwise separated ... ? Gene Bowdish
It’s gonna work but not safe! 50a plug on 20a circuit will overheat the wires( under overload situation, 30a current could flow through #12 wire without tripping 20a breaker) insulation will fail way sooner than normal use and may trip the breakers too! Not safe for the long run!!!Better use a clamp meter check the real current required by the welder.
He didn’t change the breakers out, the wiring is still protected by 20a breakers no matter what the size of plug he uses
do you know how to convert from 220 volt to 124? the house I moved into has a welding plug system already in the garage and I dont want to get rid of it but is there a way to make a device like the one you made here to make the amp go lowr so I can use some my other tooks on that ine
Nice video for a cheap fix for a very small output 220-230 volt outlet solution. The only thing is that this is limited to very small amperage. It costs a lot to put in a 220-230 volt outlet but it is well worth it in the end for safety and for something that will do much larger amperage jobs. Not many welders are of that low amperage.
You knew you would get many negative comments when you posted this video........but not from me! Well done.
Or electrical safety standards. But hey in a pinch fuck that's a great idea
Just wondering if after a year your garage isn't burned down?
12 gauge wire can't handle double phase but if he doesn't use high amp required devices it shold be ok. but I wonder what kind devices it would be.
@@psyo123 He said the extension cord is rated for 15 amps, which would make it a 14 gauge cord.
There is no such thing as two phase power. This is single phase 240 volt power being fed from two separate breakers. You can put 240 volt power on #14, #12, or anything else for that matter. You size the wire based on the amperage required, not voltage.
@@psyo123 12 gauge wire can handle 20 amps of current regardless of voltage, 240, 480, 120, 12v, etc.
Matter of fact all romex is rated for 600volts max
Using the cheapest extension cord too. I wont even run general power tools on those cords...
Why not just build his own 50amp extension cord plug into the dryer or something...
Good job and very informative!!!
I remember plugging in a spotlight at a construction site. Unknown to me, the 120v outlet was designated for the 240v saw. A 120v outlet, with 240v unmarked. It went boom, bulb shattered. And remember to test your 2nd plug with your tongue, because you don't know who could come along and pull a plug out.
Dude, you are not getting "220v From 110v" - You are getting 220v from two 110v circuits 180 degrees out of phase with each other, which btw, is what most every residential service has. 120+120=240. Just run a 220v circuit.
Exactly, he's using 220 to get 220, what kind of video is this!
yup your right, he is just wasting time. what he is doing is running line to neutral which is 110 then another line to neutral 110... if he just connect line to line he can get a direct 240v...
@@rieronpaul3723 if you run the line to the other line you trip the breaker
Yes Charles... but 220VAC IS just 2 x 110 VAC lines from the break box.. this is identical to that just done at the wall instead of the box. The only thing you dont have in this circuit is the double breaker bar.
He's doing this cuz it's more convenient for him and the way he works; if it's better for you to have a dedicated 220 outlet install the dedicated 220 outlet.
The majority of the comments I read for this video are correct. However, I felt like a little more clarification could be helpful. In the United States a residential electrical service typically consists of two 120 volt hot lines and one neutral line. Going from either one of the hot lines to the neutral gives you 120 volts. If you measure across the two 120 volt lines and don't use the neutral you will find 240 volts. In the breaker box you will find three bus bars behind the circuit breakers. Two of them are 120 volt, and the third one is a neutral sometimes referred to as the ground. The bus bars are arranged so that two adjacent circuit breakers will pick up both sides of the service in the box. This is why a 240-volt breaker is twice as wide as a 120-volt breaker. It has to grab both of the hots in order to work. Those double-wide circuit breakers are also designed so that if something trips it will shut off both of the hots at the same time. The arrangement shown in this video has the potential to damage your welding equipment simply because if one of those circuit breakers should happen to trip you'd still be sending power through the other line. This could cause damage to circuit boards or potentially give you a nasty shock because the power isn't really off. As a professional welder and an electrician I don't recommend this setup. It will work but there are far safer (and cheaper) ways to do this.
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Breakers are not there to protect the device in the first place. Breakers are strictly to protect the wiring from causing a fire resulting from a short to ground. If your an electrician then you should know this. From what he already said in the video, he is aware of the device still possibly being hot in the case of one circuit tripping or otherwise not working and is perfectly willing to accept the risk.
Would being plugged in to a gfi outlet add a little bit of safety? I have heard of people using a similar box as what he made but it was only one time
IAM not a electrical expert but I noticed the box should be grounded to the panel .the box is not grounded sitting on your bench
The technical thing with your two power legs, L1 and L2 is that one is 180° out of phase of the other. When combined you get 240 volts. It doubles because 180° is half of the full 360° AC cycle.
Its how it comes off the AC alternator from the utility company. Three phase power, each leg is 120° out of phase from each other. Three phase has some strange phenomenon to it and can be extremely dangerous for someone not familiar with how it works.
Anyway just FYI as to what the difference is in those two legs its the phase or the timing of the two cycles.
If you only have have one outlet you can use like for instance my mom needs to run her dryer her place isn’t capable of 220v she rents and she cannot replace anything to the breaker box so if you did this on one outlet do you need to wire the hot over to both sides or would is work if you ran one on a longer cord running to another room say 15 ft of wire to the next breaker
Looks good to me!!! I used exact same setup to run an ice cream machine at outdoor fair. Worked like a charm.
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Ice cream machine is a lot less amps than a welder.
That is very crafty. A little sketchy for my taste though LOL I would just take the time to run a dedicated 220 line from the breaker box
It's more the type of thing you would use in a pinch, not as something permanent.
Why not just wire a 220 connection and be done ✅
The panel has 120/240
This just let's you tap both legs without a homerun back to the panel on it's own two leg breaker.
Cheapest way to access the 240v that's already in the building
Running another line is redundant unless you need more than 15/20 amps. In the long run, it would be best to run a separate line to keep up with code.. however as long as the wiring is done properly, there shouldn't be any issue.
His Panel may be full.
I think he wants to save money and combine the 2 outlets which he already have for the added welder.
kenton romero Then install A sub panel
Thanks Bruce! Great video
Thanks for watching
Thanks a bunch.
That was very helpful.
This is not a recommended way of going about this. Fyi your outlets are only rated for 15 amps, they sell outlets rated for 20 amps. 220v outlets are pinned together in the panel for good reason. What you're doing will work, but can cause issues. Just run a dedicated 220v line to your garage.
I would add a small sub panel and connect both 120v plugs to the little panel and add a 20 amp 2 pole breaker then come out of the box and put your 240v socket/box now your a little safer
Dude.. Great Video!! What kinda Fluke multi meter do you have or suggest?? Thanks again!!
I'm not sure what Fluke meter it is but you might be able to see the model # in the video. Any multi meter would be fine IMO.
Thank you so much for sharing this!
put both circuits on a double pole breaker in main box, safer
Yep, alot safer
Then it would not be portable which is why he said he made the thing .
@Jason Bowman What he is saying is to replace the circuit breakers with one double pole breaker. It would still feed both circuits, but would trip both breakers if you had a short. Just make sure to mark this in your box, just in case you sell the house, or replace the original breakers before you sell.
I don’t get it...
If you put a breaker on and unplug one of the cables without removing the plug for the device or switch the breaker to off, it’s still as dangerous.
What you should do is to install a breaker (or two, one for each source) that reacts to power, a breaker you need to push every time you start, in order to get power, a breaker that disconnects in the same moment you unplug the cable.
@Jason Bowman Great thought, Jason. Perhaps he is out of spaces in his panel. If not, he should run a dedicated 240V line direct from the panel, and not mess around. Meanwhile, the 2 120V circuits he is using should be on a 2 pole, 20 amp breaker at the very least. This guarantees that he will actually get 240V from the 2 panel busses, and adds another level of safety protection. I also think the cord should have been #12, the receptacles should be 20 amp as well. And I do believe that there is a likelihood that if the welder is plugged in and in the ON position, and one of his 120V plugs is unplugged while the other plug is plugged in to a live circuit, the unplugged one may have a voltage sitting on the hot terminal. It would be a good idea to test this theory if you’re going to use this configuration.
Thx for the informative video, I can see you're a HF tool dude , same here that place save me big bucks
You're welcome JVF! Yes, HF has saved me a lot of money over the years too.
I see a lot of electricians not recommending this but I have to admit it's a neat idea.
Very very educational. Love it.
So thanks to this great video, i just built and tested my new plug. Im not an electrician btw.
It works just as described. Thank you.
Nice work!
If you have a fire your insurance may not cover it as this is not up to code and very dangerous.
Plugs in contraption “alright nothing exiting yet, thats good news” lol literally me after everything i build.
And we get the job done 👍
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 yessir
LOL, Those of us who laugh have had premature excitement before.
Having a screwdriver blown out of your hand beats the hell out of caffeine!
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Hi, maybe you find the time to respond to my question. Being from Germany, I do have some electric stuff that needs 220V.
Especially cooking equipment. Is it possible and legal to have a 220V outlet in the Kitchen with a European plug? If not legal, what is an alternative? Build your own cable? I have used a power converter in the past, but that gets annoying.
@@MBrieger Unfortunately, I wouldn't know as I live in the US, instead, contact your local code center and ask them that question. They will be more informed about those types of questions.
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I like the quality of your camara,, you mind sharing what kind of camara you have??
Thank you, I filmed this video with a GoPro Hero 4 Silver.
What happens if one one breaker trips while your welding.
The welding machine stop working
The fan keeps blowing and the power indicator light remains lit but zero arc.....if 1 breaker trips.
Total blackout in China!
@@Thebasicmaker this is the correct answer, when the one breaker is reset the welder will work again.
@@charlesbucholz8079 I'm not sure of all made in china welders but mine the cooling fan is also 240 volts.
If any of the 2 circuits are gfI protected this will trip it
yeah
If they were GFI they would have tripped as soon as the two whites were tied together.
@@jeffmcewan1 As soon as he put his meter between life and eart
Nice unit, a little common sense and good to go thanks man.
I'm glad it helped you out Dan! Stay safe out there :)
thanks alot for the box .i used it on my big compressor awesome.grate video....
Glad it helped
Have you ever heard of using your dryer outlet to run a welder or plasma I'm thinking of doing that ,your thoughts
Yes I have heard of that and I've done it for my welder in my new shop. I will soon be making a video of a slight modification to using a dryer outlet for running a welder. My dryer is on the other side of a wall in my garage. I'm going to pigtail a second 30A 240V outlet from that circuit and mount it on the garage side of the wall. As far as I have researched it would be up to code and safe. It's just not typical to have more than one outlet on a 240V circuit. If I run a welder at the same time the dryer is running the worst that could happen is a breaker would trip but that's no problem, we rarely even use our dryer anyhow.
You can but you should have a switch to only run one at a time so there is know chance of running both at the same time
This seems both ignorantly redundant but yet equally informative and useful. I’ve know this was possible and I, personally, would just install a 240volt circuit. BUT, say you take your welder to a friends house to help them repair something and they don’t have 240volt power at all..... This will get you out of a pinch quite easily.
I have a 3000 watt capable / rated voltage converter that can convert 115V to 230V and it is normally fed by a single 15A 115V input, however, I wonder what would happen if I coupled 2 of those on the input side that were phase locked and in phase. So basically I should have 30A 115V of input which should convert to roughly 15A 230V output. Would that be some type of code violation? Must AC outlet power be used solo and never combined with other AC outlet power as described here?
I have two gasoline electric inverter , runs constant 1600 watts 120 v . Can I use both inverters with this box and plug into a transfer switch to run 220 equipment in the house.?
Question: Let's say there are additional outlets down the line of one or both of these. If you plug in and run a 220v appliance would the result be that the downstream outlets also become 220v? I don't think just anyone should attempt this - you really should know the limits of it and be as safe as possible. That said, sometimes you just can't do it any other way.
That can not happen. These circuits are 180 degrees out of phase so they can't feed off of each other.
Cool idea. I can see this being handy when your buddy needs work done at his place and there’s no 220v outlet. As a homesteading video, I was hoping he was going to show how to get 220V from a couple inverters with this gadget. For a welder in your own garage, just run a proper 220V circuit. This is about as safe as a backfeed cord; it works, as long as you know what you are doing, and the wife or kids don’t try to figure it out while you are away. Scary how things change when you go from living alone to raising a family!
And potential deadly! In an approved design, you have both breakers locked together so if 1 side trips the other does as well. This easily could result in bodily injury up to and including death. Equipment damage is pretty much a given.
Not to mention most near to one another outlets are on the same breaker. So you fail at the beginning. And greater issue few things 220v are rated at 20 amps.
So many things wrong with doing this.
Greasy and Coy, I agree with you guys completely. Many people on here keep focusing on the fact that one pole might trip and the other doesn't. But not many are touching on the fact that he has two outlets next to each other on different phases of his house power. Having separate circuits in one room is normal, so that his heater doesn't trip the breaker when the compressor comes on. But if they're in the same room they should be on the same phase of power in his house!!!! There's a reason we don't put outlets of different phases near each other or in the same room. Sure it works to help him run a welder, but that's unsafe it's not a dedicated line for the welder. The rest of the time when he's not welding, he has two separate outlets that he can plug into, near each other, that combined create 240v @ 40 amp. Many times I have had tools that get an internal short circuit. This is too easy for someone to have a lamp plugged into one and a drill plugged into the other and reach for both at the same time it's a recipe for disaster. He might know that these are on separate phases, but everyone else doesn't, and he has this now in his workshop and out in the carport. JMHO be safe!
I don't see how this helps your buddy out unless he had the forethought to pre wire his garage for two separate runs a foot and a half away from each other, and if he did that than why did he not run a 240 there, ha ha, otherwise you gotta pull power from two outlets all the way across from each other in the garage if and I mean if (highly unlikely) that dime a dozen two car garage has two circuits in it, probably not
In your method, if you are welding, are you still able to use a device (light, drill or radio) in one of the 110v outlets you are using all at the same time?
Could this potentially work in reverse? For example to power a building from a generator. Use 2 110 plugs feeding into a 220 welder plug in building to power a submersible pump?
Has to be from opposite sides of buss bar, otherwise it will only be 120 volts, will measure zero between hots on same buss, 240 across buss bars.
Most people don't have opposite buss circuits just hanging out together
ImNotStalkingYou Every breaker position is the opposite buss. That’s why 240v breakers are connected together one above the other.
Best thing here would have been for him to replace the 2 single pole breakers with a 2 pole breaker. Problem solved.
the kitchen! may have a split plug on the counter...
I respectfully disagree that you will have 120v if both circuits are NOT on opposite sides of the buss bar. The voltage would be zero across both live wires if they happen to be on the same buss bar. This would be the same as putting both leads of your voltmeter on the same live wire. Voltage drop is zero.
That's pretty smart. I haven't seen anyone else do that, but why don't you just run EMT in your shop and surface mount a welder recepticle? Plus, you only have a 20amp circuit. Your welder might trip the circuit breaker.
Holy dung,u don't know his locations. I have similar setup where my lines go through a carport attic with no access then go underground for a few feet then into a junction box on exterior of shed and then through wall
Reidentify the neutral and land it on a double breaker. Done.
Nice .. can i do that for two separate 120v inverter generators to get 240v ?????? Looks like can work for that also .. can some one tell me if some one try this before whit split generators ?
Have been thinking about your 220 solution. Normally on a 220 volt breaker the two switches are connected by a bar which makes them both trip at the same time. What happens in you case if one were to trip???
Over a year with this device and that has never happened. If it did, I would just unplug the device and reset the breaker. Since this is not a motor, it won't damage the little welder if this happens. I've tested this by only plugging in one lead. Nothing happens except the welder will not run.
Also IMPORTANT NOTE: Make sure the two 110 volt outlets are on different/separate legs from the service panel. It will not work if both outlets are on same leg from service panel.
Did you watch the video?
@@frijoli9579 he was only making sure people are reminded of such...
@@frijoli9579 he didn’t say different legs, he said different lines. Saying “lines” is the same as saying circuits. If you know what he means then people don’t don’t need to watch this video.
Because you need two different phases right?
@@mrchrisknight315 No, it's still single phase.
Thank you for sharing. I like the way you take your time to explain.
seeing as you've got a pegboard above with metal things on it, don't you think you should have your outlets installed with the ground pin on top to be just a little bit safer?
I love this idea it’s simple clean and address the problem dead on. I purchased all the parts and two 10’ extension cords with clear male plugs . My question is simple I need to know if I have to cut both ends of the WHITE wire. The beauty of the cord is the male plug is molded on and I cannot cut the white wire on that end , but I can cut the end that goes to the box. Will this be acceptable.
you r assuming you have two seperat lines ,but you could have the outlets from the same side in the box, now no 220V, RON W
This will only work if your two 120 outlets are from opposite sides of the bus bar in the service panel. I don't know if you planned it that way or just got lucky but that is the only way you are going to see 240V across the lines.
He said each circuit was on a separate line, I assume he was referring to the main lines from the pole (separate phases).
I have a question. I hooked everything up exactly like you did. When I use my multi meter and put the red on a hot leg and black on the ground it reads 125 when I put it on the other hot leg it reads 125 but when I put the red and black on both hot legs it reads 0. If I put just the red prong on one of the hot legs it read 12. Welder will not come on when I plug it in.
Genius idea! 👍🏼people CAN still think for themselves after all.
So true!
For the cost of the materials you bought you could've run a dedicated 50amp line for the welder. 20a circuit, 15a wire, 15a plugs; living on the wild side!
I've caught a few those on fire and I wasn't using my welder!
Are you drunk. Have you checked the price of wire lately. Not possible.
@@jessjulian9458 My thoughts exactly. Am currently wiring my son's house, and you talk about "sticker shock!" Haven't checked prices since the Pandemic started .... it may be time to buy some supplies!
Woa, my wandering mind came upon this idea a few years ago. Good one,.
I did that once by mistake in a three way switch setup.. It worked fine with candescent bulbs, only the fancy big flat type switches I used would pop and flash if you slapped them on/off to quick. lol
Too funny!
Is it possible to convert a vacuum cleaner from the UK that runs on 220 V and 1200 W to what we run on or would I have to use a power converter?
I recommend a dedicated circuit! Plus your extension cord wire isn’t rated for 20 amps.
If u ran another circuit anyway to add that other outlet, why didn't you just run a 240v circuit?
Jon Coop proof of concept
cause its a pain in the ass to run new wire and then he'd hafto wire a new breaker...and maybe he didnt have enough room the the circuit box for a double breaker...and being a home owner if you messed with the box if you go to sell ur house the inspector could fail you if anything is messed up in the circuit box...its just a huge pain in the ass...
Finally someone understands! Thank you
Thanks for the tips
No problem!
I believe that each of your 120 volt receptacles would have to be on separate sides of the panel box to correctly draw 240 volts, they should not be on the same bus out of the breaker box or panel, correct?
boy you sure brought out the Henny Penny's with this neat idea!!!
I have this same setup. When I go to peoples homes I can choose separate 110's and do quick repairs. I also Have a weld cord with 3 different dryer plugs......
By "separate lines" you have to be sure you mean "separate phases". Separate lines (or circuits) on the same phase still only give you 120V. I'm sure you know this but wanted to respond in case you did not.
I'm sure he knows or he wouldn't be doing to many repairs now would he ?
Can a plastic gang box be used instead of the metal box ? If so how would the ground wire be connected?
What if you add a smart plug protector like I use on my RV so it automatically shuts off if the voltage drops from popping one breaker?