Steve Young compares Brock Purdy to Patrick Mahomes, Raiders host Chiefs | NFL | FIRST THINGS FIRST

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  • Nick Wright, Eric Mangini, and Kevin Wildes discuss Steve Young’s recent comparison of Brock Purdy to Patrick Mahomes. Nick weighs in on the comparison and explains nobody can compare to Mahomes’ play. The group then discuss if Mahomes were to pass the all-time single season passing yards record would it be something or nothing.
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  • @FirstThingsFirst
    @FirstThingsFirst  ปีที่แล้ว +6

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    • @gabrieljames3041
      @gabrieljames3041 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would love to see full episodes on here!

    • @courtneymiller2680
      @courtneymiller2680 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good job SteveOverrated system quarterback Patrick mahomes Have you heard of Donovan Mcnab He used to have all those wonderful regular season numbers too in Andy Reid's Offensive system Win the games count He's not coming through Just like last year versus the bengals for a trip to go to the Super Bowl💯💯
      4 straight Championship games. = 1and 3
      1💍 superbowl + 3💩💩💩 duds= Overrated!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 And I'm not hating nothing but facts

  • @jjmah7
    @jjmah7 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    Mangini has become more personable over the years. I used to despise him but he’s actually nice to have around these days.

    • @Boomi_Dog
      @Boomi_Dog ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He was soooo boring over Zoom but now he’s great

    • @williamallen7984
      @williamallen7984 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Mangina is great because every day he shows us in real time why he’s not coaching anymore…

    • @kahukukimo5581
      @kahukukimo5581 ปีที่แล้ว

      Umm....nah

    • @USALeonHeart
      @USALeonHeart ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He's growing on me too.

    • @Ninjachickenfingers
      @Ninjachickenfingers ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I’m glad he’s letting a little personality show instead of just being Bill Belichick Jr lol

  • @anthonygarcia6229
    @anthonygarcia6229 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    I mean Nick is right.... I've never heard anyone bring up how many games were in the season in previous record breaks.... if we throw an asterisk on Mahomes we'd have to throw one up on all of them

    • @snipecrossgg4397
      @snipecrossgg4397 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The difference is Manning would hold the record at each point in the season. If it was 12 games or 14 games he would have held the record. Not to mention they had such big leads he sat a lot of 4 quarters that season.

    • @chaddon7685
      @chaddon7685 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      All sports stats and records should be considered by era. Give the guys the all-time, but also break down via era.

    • @anthonygarcia6229
      @anthonygarcia6229 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@chaddon7685 I think most fans typically think like that, though when the era's begin and end are a bit muddy. However, the fact some aren't NOW because they may not like a player or dont want the previous one beat is kind of annoying a petty

    • @corey2232
      @corey2232 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We do for many records. Patriots went undefeated for longer than the 72 Dolphins. They were 18-0 before losing the SB, while the Dolphins only went 16-0.
      We also give OJ credit for the rushing record all the time. Even Nick knew to bring it up for a reason... because 2,000+ yards in 14 games is way more impressive than 2,000 yards in 16 games.
      If Mahomes breaks the record, nobody can take that way from him. But people won't consider it as the pinnacle or even as impressive as other seasons he's had. He'll get his props, but we'll all know it's not the same.

    • @RefundHD
      @RefundHD ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Idk what more Mahomes gotta do, he's literally averaging 320 passing yards per game after losing his best wide reciever

  • @TC-gx3qn
    @TC-gx3qn ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Is it just me or does Wildes seem to be a lot more grumpy when Brou isn't around? 😄

    • @DcLoki12
      @DcLoki12 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Probably because he's being ganged up on

    • @TnoG_
      @TnoG_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wilds is cool but biased against certain teams

    • @clipsedrag13
      @clipsedrag13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He has to pick up the slack or it's not a debate

    • @TC-gx3qn
      @TC-gx3qn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clipsedrag13 Yeah, that could be it.

    • @Says_me
      @Says_me ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TnoG_ the most bias on that show is on the other side of the table

  • @billsmafia4346
    @billsmafia4346 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    You know nick was irate when he saw that😂

    • @spunn_co
      @spunn_co ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ya stats are unfair .. sounds like these people who still think trey lance is better then brock and that its still treys team .. and trey should and well be given QBq next year..
      i ask why .. and what has he done for them team ......?
      ya nothen

    • @bretderuse939
      @bretderuse939 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@spunn_co no way that it'll be handed to Trey. What Purdy is doing is more than serviceable. They will still battle it out a camp. At the start it should be Purdy 1 and Lance 2. It should be Purdys to lose

    • @Valvad0ss
      @Valvad0ss ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because 49ers fans are beyond delusional with Purdy it’s Soooooo early!!!! Like y’all need to chill

    • @billsmafia4346
      @billsmafia4346 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m a Hawkeye fan so I have a deep hatred for purdy. But I am a bills fan so I also have deep hatred for nick

  • @greyklopstock7155
    @greyklopstock7155 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Y'know what, I just realized what a niners vs chiefs matchup reminds me of: the 2017 super bowl between the eagles and the Patriots. One team is an absolutely loaded roster with a backup QB, and the other has a generational QB, a number one te, and not much else. So the blueprint IS there for the upset.

    • @RefundHD
      @RefundHD ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see it as Chiefs vs Pats kind of, Purdy the young star QB and Mahomes the big bad reaper

    • @GARBO96
      @GARBO96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But you forgot that on the Patriots team the coach benched their star cornerback (he played more snaps than anybody else on the defense I doubt Andy Reid would do something that's stupid)

    • @TheHoff4K
      @TheHoff4K ปีที่แล้ว

      The 49ers need to get to the Superbowl first. And history says no rookie will play in the Superbowl. The Eagles will be there. Hurts play’s tomorrow and goes on to win. With first play they win out like 2017 and then wins the Superbowl!
      But Purdy is more like a healthy Jimmy G on Jimmy’s good days. His stats are no where close to Mahomes.

    • @TheHoff4K
      @TheHoff4K ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GARBO96 you forget they have to win more games yet which they won’t win all to get there and make any decisions like that. 49ers won’t win. And have the Chiefs beat the Bengals yet?

    • @mjl4010
      @mjl4010 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not much else? LMAO. Sigh......

  • @RorinoTheGreat
    @RorinoTheGreat ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Steve was taken so out of context it's insane. It's like the media didn't even listen to what he said (obviously). He compared his calmness to Mahomes, that's it. Not his arm or vision or anything else

    • @RefundHD
      @RefundHD ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I actual do see some Mahomes in him other than Calmness

    • @daviduzo
      @daviduzo ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@RefundHD lmao please there's nothing about Mahomes that he has lol

    • @mosslinden5058
      @mosslinden5058 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They just need content, I.e. something to talk about.

    • @swoldier8516
      @swoldier8516 ปีที่แล้ว

      Context: he said he has the force while mentioning Mahommes. That's saying he has the IT factor. So yea, he's tripping

    • @mikeock4961
      @mikeock4961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@daviduzo yeah he’s more Tom Brady than Mahomes in skill

  • @francescosmith7859
    @francescosmith7859 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I'm glad Wildes brought up Roger Maris at the end. The record is the record. You can argue what's more impressive (Nick made a good case a couple of weeks back that while Wilt holds the single game record for points, Kobe's 81 point game is more impressive) but we've never put asterisks on anything in sports so why would we start now?

    • @KonaTheDragon
      @KonaTheDragon ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait, so there is not an asterisk next to Barry Bonds? Idk what’s what anymore lol

    • @the_cogito5170
      @the_cogito5170 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KonaTheDragon No, there's no asterisk next to Barry Bonds lol

    • @KonaTheDragon
      @KonaTheDragon ปีที่แล้ว

      @@the_cogito5170 Thank god. The media has led me to believe there is, fkn lying agenda pushing pricks

  • @chaddon7685
    @chaddon7685 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    How dare you, Nick! Jerry had 22 in TWELVE GAMES! That's beyond incredible.

    • @jamiealexander7065
      @jamiealexander7065 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was games played, not team games.

    • @chaddon7685
      @chaddon7685 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamiealexander7065 "Jerry had 22 only played 15 games." No, he only *played* 12 games.

    • @jamiealexander7065
      @jamiealexander7065 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chaddon7685 that's what I said, learn how to read.

    • @chaddon7685
      @chaddon7685 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jamie Alexander Maybe you should learn contextual understanding, genius. You commented on me as if it were a correction when what I said was accurate.
      This means your comment was pointless.

  • @EastBayMB
    @EastBayMB ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He never said he was as good as Mahomes he said he has the ability to stay calm and collected while the game runs rampant around him like Mahomes can. He has “the force” is what Steve Young said.

  • @swpdisciple
    @swpdisciple ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jerry Rice did 22TD in 12 games in the strike shortened 1987 season.
    Also, passing yards records should be looked at in terms of completions/attempts.

    • @Says_me
      @Says_me ปีที่แล้ว

      People just like to have MOST in the record books. It’s fun to reflect on and talk about. It is not a descriptor of the best ever. It’s just a nice accolade.
      Few people think that Emmitt is the GOAT RB even though he holds the career carry, rushing yardage and rushing TD records.

    • @swpdisciple
      @swpdisciple ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Says_me fair point. Sidebar: Emmitt Smith is better than people think. Barry Sanders is the best runner at running back to me. I’d slot Jim Brown, OJ Simpson, Eric Dickerson and Walter Payton ahead of Emmitt…maybe Ladanian Tomlinson and that’s it. Honorable mention to Priest Holmes and Jamaal Charles if they weren’t injured. Just check the Cowboys 1993 season when EM held out and you’ll realize he was more than just the Dallas offensive line.

    • @rogerdodger4212
      @rogerdodger4212 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swpdisciple The issue with talking about best anything over a career is that you start talking about very specific circumstances and you have to take into account that longevity and consistency also matter. Barry Sanders was electric when he played. If he played on a better team, he may have continued playing longer but it’s impossible to say if he would’ve rushed for more or fewer yards per season.

    • @nunyabizzness8
      @nunyabizzness8 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swpdisciple What about Bo?

    • @swpdisciple
      @swpdisciple ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nunyabizzness8 Bo played for too short a time. Definitely among the best athletes ever. I forgot to include Terrell Davis on honorable mention.

  • @bilalmoon
    @bilalmoon ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Flash forward 20 years when they add an 18th game and someone breaks Mahomes record and Nick is yeah butting it.

  • @jeffpickard8709
    @jeffpickard8709 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think what Nick fails to understand is the wording of the comment. Steve Young isn't saying he's as physically gifted or as accomplished. What he's saying is about Brocks ability under pressure and to make plays when things break down.

  • @williamallen7984
    @williamallen7984 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nick’s technically right about the records. Of course Mangina didn’t suggest putting an asterisk on Tommy Terrific’s records, right? All time TD leader? Needed two extra seasons over Manning to get there. But again, Nick’s right-it’s Mahomes slander, trying to diminish him some more.

    • @RefundHD
      @RefundHD ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Playoffs are gonna get ugly, if Chiefs win it all haters will dissappear they will be shocked how Mahomes gets another championship

  • @pmizz7959
    @pmizz7959 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All the ESPN talk shows needed to fill some air time with these Steve Young comments. Every talk show has this same topic. All Steve said was they were both calm when they started their careers and the moment wasn’t too big for Purdy. He said nothing comparing his skill set nor was he implying in any way that Purdy could be as good as Mahomes.

  • @justsaying5633
    @justsaying5633 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s absolutely ridiculous to compare the two. It’s just disrespectful to Mahomes.

  • @TomahawkChopa
    @TomahawkChopa ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If Mahomes rookie year that he played one game didnt count against him he would hold every record for a QB through the first few seasons.

    • @alexbenton6306
      @alexbenton6306 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh he does.
      They keep making noise about Josh Allen supposedly breaking Marino’s record for TDs through 5 seasons because they count that 1 game against Mahomes and he didn’t even start it.
      Mahomes first 5 years he had 20-25 more TD than Allen or Marino because he’s on a galactic level they can’t fathom lmao

    • @nunyabizzness8
      @nunyabizzness8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tom Brady called...he said to count his rings seasons 1-4. Patwick won't win the SB this year either...he will throw costly INT's that will lead to a loss.

    • @nunyabizzness8
      @nunyabizzness8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexbenton6306 Rings matter...not stat padding. Patwick is tied with Jeff Hostetler and Trent Dilfer with one ring.

    • @alexbenton6306
      @alexbenton6306 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nunyabizzness8 yeah dude and he’s played 5 years. Rings are far from everything.
      That’s like saying someone who was on the Yankees for the 1996-2001 era as a bench player has a better career than a multi MVP who’s team never made it to the playoffs. Your logic is terrible

    • @nunyabizzness8
      @nunyabizzness8 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexbenton6306 rings are not everything...rings are the ONLY thing!!! Patwick isn't as clutch as you think....you'll see.

  • @standupandbheard
    @standupandbheard ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A better comparison - show Mahomies first 4 games stats to Purdy first 4 games.

  • @loganschiff3285
    @loganschiff3285 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 60 years ago comment was brilliant by Wildes lol

  • @jojoCFP
    @jojoCFP ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hate the asterisks argument so much in any context, there’s so much that goes into like winning a championship or being the mvp or breaking some type of records, and that’s for any sport

    • @rogerdodger4212
      @rogerdodger4212 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okay but that would mean no record matters.

  • @MrTastycakez
    @MrTastycakez ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanna see Mangini’s Yoda-Purdy graphic

  • @mikedimat7817
    @mikedimat7817 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Idk, Purdy hasn’t lost a game, while Mahomes has lost a lot of games🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @hannahstewart4031
      @hannahstewart4031 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      no too many

    • @LilRod2
      @LilRod2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Who’s won more

    • @aaronsmith6388
      @aaronsmith6388 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He hasn't lost alot of games at all lol

    • @LilRod2
      @LilRod2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @bradyholmes9493 yea that’s the point

    • @leclark5067
      @leclark5067 ปีที่แล้ว

      One is undefeated the other is patrick

  • @youvereachedkyle
    @youvereachedkyle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow Nick actually made sense 😂 He’s correct, the single season records don’t take into account the additional games and thus is disrespectful to the real all-time greats.

    • @rogerdodger4212
      @rogerdodger4212 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The NFL went to 16 games in 1978. The passing record at that time was 4007 yards by Joe Namath. Peyton’s record is 5477, which puts his per game yards FAR above Namath’s, meaning the number of games doesn’t matter. More people consider OJ’s 1973 season to be better than Dickerson’s 1984 season because of the number of games. Mahomes shouldn’t be treated any differently.

  • @Says_me
    @Says_me ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The game differential should absolutely be acknowledged… but the record is the record. Jim Brown has 2 seasons that would have been over 2000 yards in a 16 game season. He dosent actually have a 2000 yard season, so it is what it is… but the point should still be understood that he is in the mix with the 2000 yard club. Same with Payton.
    So Moss has the season TD record, it’s just a fact. However, Rice’s accomplishment has to be recognized during the “all-time” conversations.

  • @Kaleena43
    @Kaleena43 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean seriously… Nick is spot on with this argument. Such a huge double standard for Mangini to claim the current record holders should be seen as the record holders when they all got their records by accumulating stats in more games than the previous record holders had.

  • @scottshomo2205
    @scottshomo2205 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can't we just appreciate what both guys are doing and over hyping Purdy if he has a bad playoff game now he's going to take all the hits from the media because they are hyping him too much

  • @07gregster
    @07gregster ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They could have played 25 games in the 14 game era, and nobody would touch Mannings 5500 record.

  • @michaelkearney1313
    @michaelkearney1313 ปีที่แล้ว

    That graphic is like posting a graphic of Kobe vs Jeremy Lin during the Linsanity window.

  • @yannickbecker7599
    @yannickbecker7599 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    i dont think mahomes is gonna get it but its kinda funny because people really dont want him to get it and even if he does theyll do everything to discredit him overlooking the fact that he did it without a wr 1 arguably without a wr 2, plus the fact that by that logic every regular season record after 12 games would be invalid. but it doesnt work like that 17 will be the new standard and its hard enough to reach it like that.

    • @Dwat95
      @Dwat95 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Juju a solid 2 as long as his 1 top 5 or 10 and demands a double team 😂

    • @goldenstatewarriors9418
      @goldenstatewarriors9418 ปีที่แล้ว

      Once we’re 15 or so years into the 17 game era sure. As of now, it’s a bit unfair to consider them records when we’ve had 2 17 game seasons.

    • @yannickbecker7599
      @yannickbecker7599 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dwat95 I mean he doing his thing but close to 900 yards and 3 tds with mahomes lowkey low wr 2 high 3

    • @yannickbecker7599
      @yannickbecker7599 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@goldenstatewarriors9418 it’s gonna become normal just look at it that way if he don’t deserve it somebody will break it in the next years with 17 games

    • @Dwat95
      @Dwat95 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yannickbecker7599 he is cuz I honestly doubted him before season

  • @someotherdewd
    @someotherdewd ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jerry Rice did it in 12 games

  • @nunyabizzness8
    @nunyabizzness8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brady had 3 super bowl rings before he ever lost a playoff game. Chew on that!

  • @SunShine-xc6dh
    @SunShine-xc6dh ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yet you just mentioned all those players that had the shorter seasons with records

    • @kccryptkeeper4874
      @kccryptkeeper4874 ปีที่แล้ว

      No * next to the ones who broke those records in the book.

    • @SunShine-xc6dh
      @SunShine-xc6dh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kccryptkeeper4874 we still know and it's still a conversation

  • @bikesnippets
    @bikesnippets ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Steve Young has lost his mind.

  • @SirGenesis206
    @SirGenesis206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He’d have the most passing yards in the “most modern era”. There. Done.

  • @arkitekto323
    @arkitekto323 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steve was referring to his composure 🤦‍♂️ not his athletic abilities.

  • @cameronzwicke5761
    @cameronzwicke5761 ปีที่แล้ว

    OJ is the record holder nobody has even come close to 2000 yards in 14 games. The number of games played per season matters for single season records.

  • @NickSibz
    @NickSibz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How in the world is this an actual conversation? Steve Young is Steve Young but...lol.

  • @CLB_Industries
    @CLB_Industries ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don’t like the addition of the 17th game because it will skew the record books. However like Nick said, this isn’t the first time games have been added. So anyone who wants to put an asterisk next records set in this era, needs to put asterisks next to most of the records in the book

    • @aaronsmith6388
      @aaronsmith6388 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Facts. If this was the first time I'd understand but if we're going to put an asterisk by mahomes if he breaks it or if Justin Jefferson breaks that receiving record then like you said we will have to go back and do the same thing for all those that broke records when it was changed to 16 games.

  • @gabrieljames3041
    @gabrieljames3041 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you post full episodes??

  • @javiercasasjr3093
    @javiercasasjr3093 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I mean.. I get the reason for the sake of a topic for the show but anytime an ex or current player/coach says someone reminds them of a great or all-time player it's immediately taken as a full on side by side comparison. Young said he was reminded when mahomes first rookie start and how he was composed in the moment.. THAT was the comparison. Just that! Lol what's going on here! Lol

  • @blazingmonolith4323
    @blazingmonolith4323 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ugh could we not make this comparison 🙄

  • @nickhodge5842
    @nickhodge5842 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nick is always right!

  • @coachelly86
    @coachelly86 ปีที่แล้ว

    Predictably people are overreacting to Young’s comments. He was simply talking about Purdy’s maturity and poise at such a young age, that’s it.

  • @ninergang1881
    @ninergang1881 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There was some no looking passes he completed that were dope. That long one to Jennings, was a no look. Check it out on TH-cam

  • @Zaknyfein
    @Zaknyfein ปีที่แล้ว

    Nick, we can compare them and we are!

  • @Flexican510
    @Flexican510 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually Jerry Rice scored 22 TDs in 12 Games In 1987

  • @jacintogarza3209
    @jacintogarza3209 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:32 Facts. Like calling Mac Jones the baby 🐐 lmaoo

  • @theogriffiths6577
    @theogriffiths6577 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is such a dumb comparison purdy could end up in the HOF and he still wouldn’t be close to mahomes as a qb. He couldn’t even dream of making some of the plays mahomes makes. At least compare him to brees or someone like him

  • @vegasman9852
    @vegasman9852 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nick is right, please.

  • @nickhand7224
    @nickhand7224 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone explain why playoff games aren't included in single season record numbers? That has never made sense to me?

    • @lakeozarkrei3767
      @lakeozarkrei3767 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the playoff are just kept as a separate stat to differentiate the all time playoff performers.

  • @marydianaharrison
    @marydianaharrison ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree that a comparison is totally unnecessary. It is a disservice to both qb’s. Both qb’s will be facing some of the same teams they’ve seen before. But the volume is going to be amped up in the playoffs. That’s where I find the comparison to be especially meaningless.

  • @harveysmith3738
    @harveysmith3738 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please adjust the volume higher. Love your various show contents. Keep it up. (Just louder, please)

  • @corey2232
    @corey2232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "It's unfair to compare Purdy to Mahomes!"
    Says the guy who compared Josh Allen to Davis Mills & bad Daniel Jones 🤣

    • @RefundHD
      @RefundHD ปีที่แล้ว

      Well Allen was playing like for a while and Purdys stats are somewhat identical to Mahomes lately

    • @corey2232
      @corey2232 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Refund HD Purdy's sample size is basically nothing. We have years of tape on Allen. He was voted what, 11th best player in the league by his own peers in NFL Top 100?
      Playoffs every year but his rookie season, putting up 40 TDs, 4000+ yards, 700+ rushing yards, #2 or 3 in QBR, #1 seed, etc. I mean how is that comparable to Davis Mills unless you want to cherry pick stats?

    • @RefundHD
      @RefundHD ปีที่แล้ว

      @@corey2232 I think Allens a superstar QB but i think some of you guys overrate him, Mahomes still doesn't get the respect that he deserves. What more does he have to do, he averages 320 yards per game after losing Hill

  • @leonzaduncan2438
    @leonzaduncan2438 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the record Jerry Rice had 22 TDs in 12 games

  • @NinersAmateurDraftScout
    @NinersAmateurDraftScout ปีที่แล้ว

    Also it’s safe to compare Purdy to younger mahomes stats are very similar in 4 games

    • @whitewhale9012
      @whitewhale9012 ปีที่แล้ว

      No theyre not. Mahomes had like 400 more yards, more tds, and less ints in the first 4.
      And one of those games he played exclusively with back ups.

    • @NinersAmateurDraftScout
      @NinersAmateurDraftScout ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whitewhale9012 yes they are 🫡 but it’s okay

    • @whitewhale9012
      @whitewhale9012 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NinersAmateurDraftScout okay, but in fairness, we wont count mahomes 1st start, since no starters played.
      So in 2018, in his first 4 games, he had 16 tds and 0 ints.
      Do you want me to actually compare the numbers? Theyre not close cupcake.
      Purdy was what? 8 tds and 2 ints?
      If you think thats similar, youre casting a wide net indeed.

  • @drewdelucchi7992
    @drewdelucchi7992 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nick you are wrong, Jerry only played 12 games that year.

  • @warriorforwa
    @warriorforwa ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s kind of like comparing mahomes to Brady. Poor mahomes. It’s a disservice

  • @donnietropolis18ds
    @donnietropolis18ds ปีที่แล้ว

    Mahomes rookie stats is 284 yards/ 0 td/ 1 int. Purdy is doing great.

  • @markfishbait
    @markfishbait ปีที่แล้ว

    after watching last nights game Purdy has the x factor, he is still raw and makes mistakes however he can turn loss plays into gains.

  • @vasilimici6350
    @vasilimici6350 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nick used stats to compare Trevor Lawrence to Peyton Manning, but if anyone else uses stats thats not fair….🤔

  • @huhmf4815
    @huhmf4815 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How you compare him to Holmes an he ain't never play in a postseason game. Wilds is either a joke or a hater. You not comparing anyone to Brady.

  • @jamiealexander7065
    @jamiealexander7065 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's ridiculous that there are seventeen games now, it should always be an even number.

  • @nancymcewen2597
    @nancymcewen2597 ปีที่แล้ว

    Compare purdy to Mahomes to a Superbowl, MVPs.

  • @sgu2693
    @sgu2693 ปีที่แล้ว

    When was rhe last time Magina said any positive or affirmative about the Chiefs or Mahomes? I can't remember

  • @lancehandy7487
    @lancehandy7487 ปีที่แล้ว

    Somebody should tell Nick he has no control over what others say "I won't allow it" 🤣

  • @tobi_versace
    @tobi_versace ปีที่แล้ว

    Unfair to Purdy is one thing but to say it's impossible is equally as dumb.

  • @patf29
    @patf29 ปีที่แล้ว

    Patrick Mahomes , Jared Goff, and Baker Mayfield were all first round picks. Patrick and Baker played one of the Greatest College Football games of all time in 2016 . A total of 819 yards on offense with 734 coming through the air, on 88 passing attempts. In 2018 Jared and Patrick played the Rams won 54 to 51 KC had 546 yards to the Rams 455 but turned the Ball over 5 times. That's 105 points and just over 1000 yards of offense. To compare the last person taken in the NFL draft in 2022 after four games to Patrick who has both in College and his Pro career has played at a phenomenal level. Brock Purdy has some talent but he is on a Very good team but is no Patrick Mahomes by any means.

  • @rogerdodger4212
    @rogerdodger4212 ปีที่แล้ว

    It sounds like he is a Mahomes fanboy. No, Peyton’s record doesn’t have to have an asterisk because he threw for over 1400 yards more than the 14-game-season record. You know about OJ’s yards in 1974 because there is an inherent asterisk in Dickerson’s record. When somebody passes OJ by enough to beat him per game, that will be considered the asterisk-free record, the same goes for Peyton’s record.

  • @albertoquijada817
    @albertoquijada817 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Too early, like Nick saying Mahomes is better than Brady after 2 seasons. Lol.

    • @RefundHD
      @RefundHD ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro Mahomes has averaged 300 yards per game for his career, Purdys not doing anything close to that rn

    • @Dipset415
      @Dipset415 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is though brady just the most manufactured accomplished 🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @albertoquijada817
      @albertoquijada817 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dipset415 Yeah okay you're clearly a Brady hater same excuse from all of you. He accidentally won all those rings lol if it were that easy and Mahomes was so great he would have more than 1. Come back to this comment in 5 years when I guarantee you Mahomboy is still at 1.

    • @RefundHD
      @RefundHD ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@albertoquijada817 Im pretty sure Mahomes will be at 2 sooner rather than later, hes already been to as many championship games as Rodgers and more SBs

    • @topflight9182
      @topflight9182 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dipset415 Brady won a ring with his first year at Tampa, ur a clown

  • @panamahank7108
    @panamahank7108 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty sure it was 12 games, not 15... sooooo with that big of a difference in games, that conversation needs to be had when it comes to moss and rice

  • @mrredd8439
    @mrredd8439 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a die hard Niners fan. Love Steve Young, not nearly as much as Montana, but Young is incredible. However, Purdy ain't no Mahomes. Their games are not even similar.

  • @Aminah6623
    @Aminah6623 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only quarterback to compare Mahomes to is Joe Burrow.

  • @mclew1234
    @mclew1234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The record will be the record, the only time the number of games should be considered is in discussion when things like HOF or best ever at something come up, then it is fair to say yes but player X achieved is record in Y number more games & it was smaller average per game

  • @Mik3yLow
    @Mik3yLow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a Chiefs fan and a KC native and there's nothing wrong with the comparison. Purdy looks great rn and these questions will continue if they meet in the Superbowl. Chiefs might make it though the AFC is wild right now and we got some stellar competition in our way. But SF is definitely making the Superbowl. That's the best team in the NFC by a large margin and Purdy deserves a ton of credit.
    It is a little easier on rookie and back up QB's rn with all these teams running Fangio's defense. It leaves little space for anything deep but sacrifices essentially everything within 10 yards and that's the only thing ever asked of back up QB's. But Purdy is better than they expected. Great decision making and he's one of few QB's that are great at taking advantage of the deep ball when they let him.
    I think we'll start to see a lot of rookies and back ups do well over the next few seasons. Little Brockoli is on the level though. Not Mahomes level cause no one is but he's for real

    • @lakeozarkrei3767
      @lakeozarkrei3767 ปีที่แล้ว

      NFLs funny man... Raiders almost took out the 9ers last week.

    • @Mik3yLow
      @Mik3yLow ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lakeozarkrei3767 Yeah and I think they will be tough for us this week. Our defense is stepping it up lately but they're looking better than they have all year lol

    • @whitewhale9012
      @whitewhale9012 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its weird to me when people book their trip to the superbowl before the playoffs start.
      Its single elimination.

    • @lakeozarkrei3767
      @lakeozarkrei3767 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whitewhale9012 I think you almost have to to get a room lol

  • @danielriddick9257
    @danielriddick9257 ปีที่แล้ว

    Name of the game>>MOVING THE GOALPOSTS

  • @GARBO96
    @GARBO96 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus Christ Nick let Coach talk a little bit

  • @suv3534
    @suv3534 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mahomes didn’t have the benefit of the best defense in the league his first year starting

    • @roemellobell
      @roemellobell ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct he have the offense that's perfect and the defense I hate when people do that

  • @erikpuka2627
    @erikpuka2627 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nobody is throwing to more wide open Recievers from a cleaner pocket than Mahomes this year. And nobodys recievers get more after the catch than his. All stats and analytics prove this.

  • @edwardbrito4010
    @edwardbrito4010 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do season records count when 12 games season we’re played. Nick on point with games played & average like NBA most appropriate 12 games minimum seems fair.
    Highest career average game 104 Jim Brown career, 100 yds Sanders, Davis 97, Dickerson 90. Davis played 6 years so at least 9 seasons needed. Payton 89, Portis 88, Martin 84, OJ 83, Edgerin 83, Campbell 82, Smith 81. Doing first 9 season best because older RBs disadvantaged like Smith 14 years run.
    Same for regular season records Now for real record single season OJ 143 rush/game, Brown 133, Payton 132, Dickerson 132, AP 132, OJ 130, Lewis 129, Campbell 129, Sanders 128 & Brown 127. Notice no outliers maybe league doesn’t want to remember OJ for obvious reasons.

  • @silverioford5667
    @silverioford5667 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Purdy is decent, he is NOT Mahomes, he have the NFL No.1 Defense and a top flight run game and receiver, put him on the Texans or Bears and see how good he is

  • @kcsniper1243
    @kcsniper1243 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hate it when people do these stat comparisons. Purdy should be compared to mahomes stats in his 1st year. Mahomes has been to the afc title game in all 4 years as a starter. He is 2 td away from going to 4 straight superbowls

    • @byronsmith3152
      @byronsmith3152 ปีที่แล้ว

      People need to be honest about the context of said comparison. Young never compared Purdy to Mahomes as a player in terms of arm strength, stat, mobility. he was simply talkng about his poise in the pocket.

  • @captinchewy7592
    @captinchewy7592 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just imagine if Peyton or Tom or drew has one extra game there whole career.

    • @davidgardner4809
      @davidgardner4809 ปีที่แล้ว

      What’s even funnier is everyone saying Mahomes has an extra game, yet literally no other quarterback in the league is putting up the consistent numbers.

    • @turner353
      @turner353 ปีที่แล้ว

      Peyton put 26 tds and 3,000 yard first season starting. Mahomes put up 50tds and 5,000 yards his first year starting ☺️

    • @captinchewy7592
      @captinchewy7592 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@turner353 it was also I different era of football too

  • @mathlover2299
    @mathlover2299 ปีที่แล้ว

    Records only hold for the amount of games played. OJ's record will never be sniffed let alone broken, same with Rice's record.

  • @altortugas5979
    @altortugas5979 ปีที่แล้ว

    Epic double team at 2:31

  • @cameronparkes6629
    @cameronparkes6629 ปีที่แล้ว

    Break the record book into eras. The 12,14,16,17 game eras

  • @eckyboy555
    @eckyboy555 ปีที่แล้ว

    wouldn't average per game over a season sort this out?

  • @ericbutler1557
    @ericbutler1557 ปีที่แล้ว

    They do this “JUST “ to get Nick fired up

  • @byronsmith3152
    @byronsmith3152 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you are going to criticize a comment, at least being honest and post the actual comment that was made. he did not say Purdy was the next Mahomes. he was talking about his pocket presence and poise.

  • @johnwarner9474
    @johnwarner9474 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bet his mom and dad thought he would be this good

  • @sonk-rays5798
    @sonk-rays5798 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The niners are stacked on offense. They have McCaffery, Kitties, and Samuel's. Purdy is in a great position to shine.

    • @RefundHD
      @RefundHD ปีที่แล้ว

      Im not saying hes Mahomes but it is somewhat similar to Mahomes MVP season, great offensive coach, good weapons

    • @whitewhale9012
      @whitewhale9012 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RefundHD Yeah, except purdy can manage the game because he has support from the defense.
      Mahomes had to carry the 31st ranked defense. He had to be a playmaker.

  • @CapnPink28
    @CapnPink28 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wildes is hilarious!! 😂😂😂😂

  • @camstegames8437
    @camstegames8437 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember Jimmy G going to San Fran, winning 5 straight on a 1-10 team, and everyone saying how HE was the next Brady. They traded the house and drafted his replacement, what 3 years later, and he is suddenly garbage tier qb according to these guys? So if a garbage tier qb can amass a top 5 winning percentage for a qb in history....maybe we shouldn't crown his replacement just yet.

  • @donaldcreel2023
    @donaldcreel2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can these guys let a guy be himself. No one can be Mahomes. Purdy is no one but himself.

  • @claytonwirta7077
    @claytonwirta7077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These idiots were saying Trey Lance was going to be MVP.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Pump the breaks.

    • @roemellobell
      @roemellobell ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't do that the coach fault that didn't go get CMC and nobody to help him earlier but when he becomes good don't be on his tail either I'm looking for that name

  • @vegasman9852
    @vegasman9852 ปีที่แล้ว

    A four-game compairison is crazy. I like you Kevin, but really.

  • @g4l_deadly706
    @g4l_deadly706 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You cant compare skill but they are comparable. They both were thrown into completely perfect scenarios

    • @jayceh
      @jayceh ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mahomes inherited the #1 defense and running game in the league? Which year are we talking about?

    • @prod.justjae9957
      @prod.justjae9957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jayceh exactly 😅

    • @kevinsommerville206
      @kevinsommerville206 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jayceh no but chiefs were a playoff team with Alex smith so they weren’t bad

    • @jayceh
      @jayceh ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kevinsommerville206 ok, just checking because one sounds perfect and the other sounds kind of OK-ish

    • @kevinsommerville206
      @kevinsommerville206 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jayceh both qbs inherited playoff teams. The chiefs went to the playoffs 4 years in a row with Alex smith, before they started pat so how is that not a perfect situation to fall into? One of the best deep threats in nfl history, one of the best tight ends in nfl history, and one of the best coaches in nfl history how is that not perfect

  • @robertsoratos7451
    @robertsoratos7451 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steve Young is high!

    • @roemellobell
      @roemellobell ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know what Steve is smoking it must be some expensive s*** I can't never buy it and I hope nobody else gets it either

    • @MrS1001
      @MrS1001 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was talking about the poise in the pocket. That’s it. This is just the media trying to take things out of context.

  • @kalvone173
    @kalvone173 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unfair comparison but nick compare mahomes to brady. Ok nick.

  • @TheMdh52
    @TheMdh52 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jerry rice had 22 tds in 12 games not 15

  • @TheLifesentence2278
    @TheLifesentence2278 ปีที่แล้ว

    If he does the extra game does matter.