And if you put it up lengthways, you can actually sleep under it, cause its actually longer from front to back.... This setup in the video is great for a lunch stop or something in the rain.
Just a thought , I really think if you arrived at your site in a downpour you could attach the ridge line while still wearing the poncho and then when the line is set you could quickly slip the poncho off and over ridge line with you under it. At that point while under the poncho you could set the prusiks and walk out the corners still protected, That way you are being kept dry while setting up. I will give this a try.. Thanks.
Cheers Mark...it seems to be a well made piece of kit. The grommets are strong, the material is tough and waterproof and it's a multifunctional item. A good addition to my pack. How did Bazza go? ATB Paul
Nice video Paul, you are brilliant. I like my luxury with my Alpkit rig 7 tarp. I gave up cycle capes a long time ago, but still have some 1950's ones just in case and they are awesome with the soulwester. I think my parents left me with both lightweight and duck oil ones. Getting cold so now back into my heated action van. Looking forward to your next.
Cheers Mike...The Rig 7 will be like mansion compared to the poncho. First and foremost I'll use it to cover me and my pack in the wetter seasons. The shelter aspect I just see as a bonus. I won't be retiring my tarps. Thanks for watching. ATB Paul
nice bit of useful kit paul used to use something similar in army cadets a long time ago we used to make a little shelter with it also. I bet the quality is better now than in the late 70s when I was a little nipper. atb kev
Only time will tell about the quality Kev....I bet there's a few of those 70s ones still going strong 😀. Hopefully this lasts awhile. First impressions are good though. ATB Paul
nice video, I have a weird camo version of it, really like mine, go's in day pack and wear it to a brew spot etc then take off and set as a shelter to take cover for day camp, very tough too at a good price, cheers craig
Thanks for watching Warren. I've seen a few videos of the Snugpak but not had my hands on one. I have a couple of Snugpak items so I imagine the quality will be good. The MilTec one appears to be of good quality and I'm more than happy with it for the money. ATB Paul
Please, ccan you help me? This or the Helikon Tex poncho, which one is better overall, for keeping me and my backpack dry ans be more versatile in terms of uses? Thanks in advance
How good will it protect your sides when getting blitzed by a car going fast through a deep puddle? I want something multi-functional for possible SHTF situations but something decent at every-day rain protection as well as asshats driving through puddles to drown you as you walk on the pavement. The video made it seem like the sides do not give much coverage?
Pretty much ALL ponchos button up the sides so they're not going to protect you very well from blowing wind or passing vehicles. IMO they're best when you don't have to move around a lot, and of course for making shelters. Good to have but definite disadvantages. I wouldn't want to have one as my ONLY raingear. I haven't got one of these yet, but I have my eye on the "Long Raincoat For Men Women Poncho Jacket With Hood Portable Packable" on Amazon. It's $24.99. It's a coated poly-cotton below-knee raincoat with a concealable hood. Comes in camo, OD green, and fluorescent yellow-green. ALLEGEDLY it has a lot of good features like taped sealed seams etc. It seems pretty cheap but it has two 5-star reviews so.......I'm probably going to get one. For more serious use I recommend the French Army Gore-Tex parka and rain pants. The set will cost you about 100 bucks which is a lot, but still cheap for Gore-Tex. Actually it's the French version of course....waterproof/breathable fabric.This stuff is pretty damn rugged and heavy-duty as you can imagine. They are available from keepshooting.com which is a good outfit too do business with.....
Cheers Phil...I bought a 58 pattern from the bushcraft trade post but when it turned up the inside coating was perishing and was sticking to itself..I decided to go for a new item and i'm happy with what I chose. Not the lightest but it has more than one use and looks like it will stand up to the test of time....hopefully...ATB Paul
Paul Messner that's exactly what happened to mine Paul. Had 2 in the loft for a while. Came to peel it apart and they were wrecked. They were all we used to use in the cadets days.
The "older" versions with the green tag have been labeled as "fake"...they aren't fake, it's the stitching around the hood that makes it leak. The newer models that come with a black label have resolved this issue. Go for the ones with the black label in the stuff sack.
smashing vid lots of detail and Looks like a a decent shelter on a long hike/overnighter. how much are they? cheers for sharing oh and if you coukd do a video about knots that would be great as I'm clueless lol. ATB Steve
@@PaulMessner Old thread I know Paul. I came across a US army manual from the 60's with a drawing. 2 ponchos are to be clipped together to make a small A frame tent. The pic shows those cords being used as tie out points as you would a tent. Notice they have line locks (my MFH one does) You could swap the cord out & replace with paracord.
I’d love to learn how to tie those knots. Great video !!
Just invested in one ..... There Awesome
And if you put it up lengthways, you can actually sleep under it, cause its actually longer from front to back.... This setup in the video is great for a lunch stop or something in the rain.
Just a thought , I really think if you arrived at your site in a downpour you could attach the ridge line while still wearing the poncho and then when the line is set you could quickly slip the poncho off and over ridge line with you under it. At that point while under the poncho you could set the prusiks and walk out the corners still protected, That way you are being kept dry while setting up. I will give this a try.. Thanks.
Also , when leaving the reverse would apply.
That's ideal for a for a quick lunch stop or a brew in the rain Paul. Thanks for sharing.
atb mark.
Cheers Mark...it seems to be a well made piece of kit. The grommets are strong, the material is tough and waterproof and it's a multifunctional item. A good addition to my pack. How did Bazza go? ATB Paul
Nice video Paul, you are brilliant. I like my luxury with my Alpkit rig 7 tarp. I gave up cycle capes a long time ago, but still have some 1950's ones just in case and they are awesome with the soulwester. I think my parents left me with both lightweight and duck oil ones. Getting cold so now back into my heated action van. Looking forward to your next.
Cheers Mike...The Rig 7 will be like mansion compared to the poncho. First and foremost I'll use it to cover me and my pack in the wetter seasons. The shelter aspect I just see as a bonus. I won't be retiring my tarps. Thanks for watching. ATB Paul
love the channel thanks for sharing
Huge video! You just make me bought this poncho! Thank you. Best wishes!
Haha, it’s great to see that you have come a long way from this robot infomercial 😅
Great demo mate!best wishes bud
Thanks Mad Dog...Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching. ATB Paul
nice bit of useful kit paul used to use something similar in army cadets a long time ago we used to make a little shelter with it also. I bet the quality is better now than in the late 70s when I was a little nipper. atb kev
Only time will tell about the quality Kev....I bet there's a few of those 70s ones still going strong 😀. Hopefully this lasts awhile. First impressions are good though. ATB Paul
nice video, I have a weird camo version of it, really like mine, go's in day pack and wear it to a brew spot etc then take off and set as a shelter to take cover for day camp, very tough too at a good price, cheers craig
I agree Craig. it's a tough piece of kit for the money. A useful item to carry in your pack. ATB Paul
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very timely video Paul iv been thinking of getting a poncho ill probably get the snugpak.
but this is tempting at half the price.
Thanks for watching Warren. I've seen a few videos of the Snugpak but not had my hands on one. I have a couple of Snugpak items so I imagine the quality will be good. The MilTec one appears to be of good quality and I'm more than happy with it for the money. ATB Paul
Please, ccan you help me? This or the Helikon Tex poncho, which one is better overall, for keeping me and my backpack dry ans be more versatile in terms of uses? Thanks in advance
How good will it protect your sides when getting blitzed by a car going fast through a deep puddle? I want something multi-functional for possible SHTF situations but something decent at every-day rain protection as well as asshats driving through puddles to drown you as you walk on the pavement. The video made it seem like the sides do not give much coverage?
Pretty much ALL ponchos button up the sides so they're not going to protect you very well from blowing wind or passing vehicles. IMO they're best when you don't have to move around a lot, and of course for making shelters. Good to have but definite disadvantages. I wouldn't want to have one as my ONLY raingear. I haven't got one of these yet, but I have my eye on the "Long Raincoat For Men Women Poncho Jacket With Hood Portable Packable" on Amazon. It's $24.99. It's a coated poly-cotton below-knee raincoat with a concealable hood. Comes in camo, OD green, and fluorescent yellow-green. ALLEGEDLY it has a lot of good features like taped sealed seams etc. It seems pretty cheap but it has two 5-star reviews so.......I'm probably going to get one. For more serious use I recommend the French Army Gore-Tex parka and rain pants. The set will cost you about 100 bucks which is a lot, but still cheap for Gore-Tex. Actually it's the French version of course....waterproof/breathable fabric.This stuff is pretty damn rugged and heavy-duty as you can imagine. They are available from keepshooting.com which is a good outfit too do business with.....
I have the British Army 58 pattern. it's a great piece of kit. Nice video. atb phil
Cheers Phil...I bought a 58 pattern from the bushcraft trade post but when it turned up the inside coating was perishing and was sticking to itself..I decided to go for a new item and i'm happy with what I chose. Not the lightest but it has more than one use and looks like it will stand up to the test of time....hopefully...ATB Paul
Paul Messner that's exactly what happened to mine Paul. Had 2 in the loft for a while. Came to peel it apart and they were wrecked. They were all we used to use in the cadets days.
Not sure why they end up like that...must be an issue with the coating.
got put talc powder on them when storing them and if they peel and flake reproof with thinned down silicone gell
Favorite poncho 2017?
Almost got the mil tec but some reviews say it leaks A LOT in front at the seams
The "older" versions with the green tag have been labeled as "fake"...they aren't fake, it's the stitching around the hood that makes it leak.
The newer models that come with a black label have resolved this issue.
Go for the ones with the black label in the stuff sack.
smashing vid lots of detail and Looks like a a decent shelter on a long hike/overnighter. how much are they? cheers for sharing oh and if you coukd do a video about knots that would be great as I'm clueless lol. ATB Steve
They cost about £15. the link is in the description. I'll put a knots video up in the next week. Thanks for the request. ATB Paul
Nice vid mate, thanks. Subscribed but feel better off with a breathable coat and a longer tarp
You're absolutely right. It has it's place but also it's limitations. Thanks for watching. All the best...Paul
top vid, I love my poncho but tell me what do you reckon the cord is for on the inside back of the poncho
+wild camping wales I'm not really sure myself. I suppose you could hand a small lantern from it but I've never had to. Thanks for watching.
The cord on the inside of ponchos (usually at the front) is to tie around your waist to restrain it when the wind gets up.
@@PaulMessner Old thread I know Paul. I came across a US army manual from the 60's with a drawing. 2 ponchos are to be clipped together to make a small A frame tent. The pic shows those cords being used as tie out points as you would a tent. Notice they have line locks (my MFH one does) You could swap the cord out & replace with paracord.
doesn't look wide enough to use as a bivvi like the American gi poncho
It's definitely wide enough to be used as bivvi bag 👍🏻