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thanks for your picks. I bought a oversized 8' Brunswick Century in great condition. $1K to purchase and $500 to teardown and install in by basement. It has been a year and have fell back in love with the game.
Hi Doug! I am building a house in Southwest Michigan and I plan to have a large dedicated pool room in the basement. I had intended to buy a new table but after watching your videos, I am leaning toward a used GC. I intend to start looking seriously in a month or two when the floor gets done. Thank you for doing these videos!
For you're first table I will always recommend buying used, pool tables are like cars. I also recommend having a pro install your table, not only does it keep the business alive, it also ensures your table is perfectly level
I’d have to disagree that they are like cars. Yes, like cars once a table is used they depreciate in value but the wear and tear on a pool table is nowhere near a car. Since pool tables just sit in one spot it doesn’t really matter the age of the table because a good constructed table will last a lifetime or longer. Used tables are great because you get to save money while also not really getting a “used” product the same way you would be buying a used car
♥️ don’t ever sell it , I just picked up a Valley slate 1964 deluxe model I had no idea what I was buying the only thing I know is the young man that sold it to me told me the same thing that his grandma gave it to him . He was emotionally attached to it , he asked me a few times to take very good care of her . 😢 I am so happy of finding the table.
Great video, very informative. What would you pay for a Olhausen Provincial Pool Table and how can I tell how old it is? How can you tell if the bumper are bad?
Thank you! I mostly deal with service on tables. So, I couldn't begin to say what the price should be. As for age, you could possibly take pictures of it and reach out to Olhausen. Assuming the serial number tag is still there, they should be able to tell you the exact date it was made. If not, they could at least tell you what date range it falls in. As for the rubber, I have a video showing exactly how to tell. Check out my video list. It's in there.
Thank you very much! I really like Golden West tables. They didn't make my list because they aren't widely available across the country (in the used table market). I tried my best to recommend tables that the average person would likely run across regardless of where they live in the U.S.. Keep up with the recommended service on your table and it should last several lifetimes!
I have a 7 ft pool table , has a red and blue emblem on it "American Shuffle Board Union City New Jersey The Worlds Finest" its not a coin table. i believe it is a single slate, has the score dials on top of the railing is it a good brand?... Where can I get more info on it? like year or model ...enjoyed watching your videos
I bought a great Gold Crown III 9 footer from the great one pocket player Herb Lehmann back in 2005, he came to my home an installed it ( I have a large NYC loft) and shimmed the pockets a bit to make it "tougher." The whole time he told stories of the greats he was around, Grady, Cornbread, Miz, Ervolino...Then he shagged a few balls and gave me some great stroke tips...I play 14.1 almost exclusively so the cloth and rails are still in great shape.
This was great info I purchased a gold crown 1 for 700 dollars pais another five to have it moved im in the process of getting it ready for an overhaul need cushions and cloth I have 1200 in it and just order another 200 in material to redo the cloth and rubber we will se how it goes ive watched your video on replacing cushions it was a great tutorial
What about antique Brunswick tables? It’s and 8 ft oversized with side rail pins and oak railing. I am looking at one and want to see what your opinion is.
Hi, Doug, I’ve watched this video and looking around, within my finances, I found a foremost table for practically free. Do you know anything about them? The very little Google gave me shows as a slate table and it looks like a commercial grade one with balls coming to a window after pocketed, no coin mechanism though. One interesting thing is the fact that when I’ve say some magnetic trays i have on top of it, it sticks! I’m not sure if slate would do that or this table has a metallic top! Any help is much appreciated! It’s not in the best shape but it is what i can afford, and yes, I’m the stupid guy you’ve mentioned in your disassemble and reassemble videos who’s going to have to replace the cloth and bumpers lol but I’m following the best, you! Wish me luck! Thank you for sharing your endeavors as a pool table mechanic! Cheers
It's a good table. 1-1/4" slate is going to be VERY stable over time. Obviously, it's heavier than 7/8" slate. But, not insurmountable as far as lifting and moving.
I'm in different people's house every day for work & I see so many $8000-$10,000 tables that are absolutely dog shit... My god for $7k max, get a diamond, best table in the world. Or $3500 for a gold crown. Shit I can find a Gandy for $2k max & it beats most of those shitty "home tables"
I used to have an AMF 9' commercial table (similar look to Brunswick GC). We sold it with our previous home and now have a Burroughes and Watts 12 foot snooker table.
I own a Brinktun pool table. It was I believe manufactured back in the late 60s. The outside perimeter interior is a solid particleboard construction. The rails are a solid hardwood and the table is called Lith-o-Slate. I'm not sure it's true slate. It sure seems like it might be. Curious if anyone has ever heard of this brand or type of slate.
Question. Any thoughts on a Brunswick Viscount table? I have an opportunity to pick one up quite cheap. Just wondering if it's a good table or not. Thanks.
The GCIII’s are a different design, though?.. But I agree, they’re everywhere and they built thousands of them.. I’ve bought them for as low as $500.. But only 1’s and 2’s..
Doug, I haven’t heard you say anything about A.E. Schmidt tables. They’ve been around for a long time. Are used (or new) ones top tier tables. I’ve heard good and bad. Not sure what to believe. Thanks
They're like almost all of the other manufacturers. They make tables to fit price points. The good ones (more expensive ones) are really good. The less expensive ones.... not so much (in my opinion).
I have an 8 foot oversized table. Basically an 8 1/2 ft table. Im the second ownwer and have the original receipt from when it was perchased in 1972. Unfortunately i have come to a dead end on trying to find the manufacturer! There are no manufacturer markings on any pieces. Can you help?
Is a Caftmaster billards table any good? I can't find much about it. I think the company was out of Tampa FL. And heard they went out of business. Does anyone know anything about it? It's 8'x4' solid hardwood I think Oak but stained Mahogany. Hoping I have a Nice table it looks nice and seems to be built well. Lmk plz
great video, thoughts on an 9ft AMF Grand Prix. (1960's) sitting unassembled at parents for 35 years. will need cushions, cloth & probably pockets as rubber seems pretty hard/cracked and mechanic service to assemble, level etc.
Great choice, i bought a house 2yrs ago previous owner left a pool table UBI zenith coin table 8ft . Last week i covered it with simonis 860 cloth. You know anything about this table. I dont find anything on internet about it?
UBI is the acronym for "United Billiards Incorporated". They made tables from the 60's into the early 80's. Not bad tables. But, impossible to find parts for them.
did you specifically say the Gold crown 1 2 & 3 bc they are cheaper in today’s market or because they were the only ones made in america before the factory flooded?
No. I recommend the GC 1,2, and 3 because they're the most readily available on the used market. Later models aren't seen as often. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't recommend them. Because I do.
Your videos are amazing. I have learned so much. The information is thoughtful, presented very well and very accurate. I am so glad I found your channel.
GC IV is a great table too. I said I,II, and III because they're more readily available. If you can get your hands on a GC IV for a good price, I'd say go for it!
Hi Doug, what kind of material are the pockets holders from Brunswick Goldcrown 3 are made of? Its like between iron and aluminium .. :O Any sugsgestions to make those like new, like Gold? Same as the strip on the side. I was thinking about to put them in a bath with the labo liquids and electricity and add something like copper? Not a clue if it would work? I enjoyed your video about the assembly of a Goldcrown 3, was about to give you a coffeetip on your Paypal, but felt asleep, if you have a magnificant idea for me about those pockets I dont go to bed before you have this famous Cappuccino :P
Doug, I have been seeing a lot of antique Brunswick pool tables on the market lately. Aside from wear and tear issues, what are some downsides of buying a 100+ year old Brunswick? Thanks.
Knowing what to look for and where to look for damage is going to be the biggest challenge when looking at antique tables. It's kind of a catch 22. The average person is going to need the table assembled to see that everything is there and in tact. But, they're also going to need it disassembled to see what kind of condition the slate, rails, slate liner, cabinet, and cabinet joints are in. These antique tables are either going to be assembled or disassembled and you really need to see it both ways before committing to buying one. Wear and tear is going to be the main thing keeping an old table from looking and playing like new. And, playing like new is the easy part to fix. Usually, it just takes a good installation, new cloth, new rubber, and a new set of balls to achieve that. It's the structural and cosmetic fixes that take the most skill and time. I think I'm answering your question. But, if not, be a bit more specific with your question and I'll be happy to go in further detail.
@@CreativeRestorations Thank you. That is exactly what I wanted to hear. I think I will take a pass on an antique table. Probably not worth the time and effort that I would have to spend to avoid a mistake. I’m going to stick to a GC. I’ll leave the antiques to others.
Consider Facebook Marketplace along with Craigslist and expand your search to a wider radius. Above all else, BE PATIENT! Think of your search like a marathon rather than a sprint. Sometimes it just takes time for the right table to come along.
Overall, AMF furniture type tables are pretty decent. I'd say on par with Brunswick. But, AMF did make some REALLY cheap tables as well. Their "PlayMaster" line of tables included both types. So, if you're looking at an all particle board PlayMaster, that's a cheap one. If it's solid wood, that's a good one.
I found a Gandy Sportman that is being reconditioned with rubbers/shims/clothes new play set and install/delivery fees for $3500. I hope it is a good deal
I would recommend any of the Gold Crown tables. I only specifically recommend the 1, 2, and 3 because they're the most widely available on the used market.
Just an observation in the Midwest, GC4s are relatively expensive and that is for tables coming out of pool halls. They are very good tables, but you'll still have to do some restoration after paying probably $4k plus for one.
Connelly makes a very good pool table. It didn't make my list because they aren't consistently popular across the country. If they were, they definitely would have made the list!
I agree with Doug. Connelly made and now again makes a great table. Craig Connelly wasn't quite big enough to weather the Great Recession and went bankrupt before Valley-Dynamo in Texas bought them and started remanufacturing them again. Since I never sold any tables and had no dog in the hunt, for years I highly recommended Connelly first, then Olhausen and Brunswick tied for second. Connelly has thicker slates, beefier slate screws and I personally believe better construction methods and quality than most tables out there. Made here in the US. As Doug alluded to, Olhausen has entry level tables in their portfolio to compete with the bottom feeder sellers from overseas. But their regular line also is made here in the US. Also, the upper end Brunswick Contender tables are only minimally less of a table than their regular line. I am now retired from a profession that I was passionate about and loved doing. Having installed many new Brunswicks for dealers over the years, I bit my tongue about the quality and the concern for the quality going south. I complained to Marvin Eisenhower at Brunswick constantly about their slate. But they had no intention of fixing it. For years, EVERY piece of their 1" slate I installed that had the MDF liner was crowned! From ever so slightly to ridiculously humped. When they started having their tables outsourced from China, slates and all I gave up on them and haven't recommended them for years. Sorry, but that's my 2 cents worth and only my personal opinion.
I have been lucky enough to get a Gold Crown. Traded an eight foot Canada billiard table for. Plays like a dream, my higher ranked friends just love plating on it. I have a slight problem with it though. Thepockets aren't quite lined up properly on the rails, they sit a little high. I'lll keep looking for a video on how to fix this.
All Gold Crown tables are fantastic. But, the GC 4 and 5 are still a bit pricy compared to the 1,2, and 3. If you can find the newer ones for a good price, I would strongly recommend them. The other reason I didn't include them is, they aren't as widely available as the 1,2, and 3.
Hi Doug, I’m interested in a Brunswick Prestige about 20 years old and in great condition. They are asking $2,500. What is your opinion of this table? Thanks, Gary
Do you have a video of how to completely disassemble a bar box Valley Panther. I know to get everything including the slate out, but what about disassembling the internals (spider and pockets etc) I know how to get the legs off... so really just getting the internal pieces out. Thank you for your help.
I didn't mention Valley or Dynamo because they are a compromise table. They are extremely well built. But, they don't play like any home type or commercial (pool hall) table. They have buckets for pockets, they generally get into the public's hands after amusement companies have beat them to hell. They can't be leveled anywhere near as accurately as a 3 piece slate table. And, finally, they require more specialized equipment to move if you want to do it safely. Coin operated tables are FANTASTIC at preforming the function they were designed to do - make sub-par players make more balls and get them to play more games at a time (which costs them more money). They are extremely robust. But, they are a compromise for a homeowner.
@@CreativeRestorations are you serious? I've set up 100's of Valleys and they are so true and level. You can also get 3 kinds of rails for pocket dimension. Put on Simonis 760 or 860 cloth and you have a professional smooth table. I'm not taking 6' but a 7 or 8' Valley are perfect especially for moving cause stay true 1 piece slate that levels itself on the inside lips. Sounds like you have no idea what a good Valley is like and must have only seen shitty bars where they don't take care of them. Play tournaments on 7' Valleys that travel all across USA and Canada 100-200 tables at each tourney
Not my favorite table. Knowing what I know about tables, if I were looking for a used table for myself, I would not buy a Brunswick Heritage. FAR too many better tables out there.
What do you want to know? That question is kinda like asking, "can you tell me about boats." No offense intended. I just need the scope of the conversation narrowed a bit.
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That is some really valuable information. enjoyed!! Thanks for the advise.
Glad it was helpful!
Let me know when I need to recover the table in the clubhouse again!
thanks for your picks. I bought a oversized 8' Brunswick Century in great condition. $1K to purchase and $500 to teardown and install in by basement.
It has been a year and have fell back in love with the game.
I've owned 5 Gold Crowns.
Restored all of them.
Hi Doug! I am building a house in Southwest Michigan and I plan to have a large dedicated pool room in the basement. I had intended to buy a new table but after watching your videos, I am leaning toward a used GC. I intend to start looking seriously in a month or two when the floor gets done. Thank you for doing these videos!
For you're first table I will always recommend buying used, pool tables are like cars. I also recommend having a pro install your table, not only does it keep the business alive, it also ensures your table is perfectly level
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I’d have to disagree that they are like cars. Yes, like cars once a table is used they depreciate in value but the wear and tear on a pool table is nowhere near a car. Since pool tables just sit in one spot it doesn’t really matter the age of the table because a good constructed table will last a lifetime or longer. Used tables are great because you get to save money while also not really getting a “used” product the same way you would be buying a used car
I have a Fischer, and I like it
I just got an old Olhausen for $60. Slate and wood are in great shape. Sometimes you score a deal!
I just bought a Gandy Big G 4 legged table for $100 yesterday. Best $100 ever spent
I have a valley slate bar table 70 years old and it’s mint , the rails are so true !! My grampa gave it to me and it’s 3’X6’
♥️ don’t ever sell it , I just picked up a Valley slate 1964 deluxe model I had no idea what I was buying the only thing I know is the young man that sold it to me told me the same thing that his grandma gave it to him . He was emotionally attached to it , he asked me a few times to take very good care of her . 😢 I am so happy of finding the table.
I can’t understand 27k ppl watching a video and not hitting like.
Great video, very informative. What would you pay for a Olhausen Provincial Pool Table and how can I tell how old it is? How can you tell if the bumper are bad?
Thank you!
I mostly deal with service on tables. So, I couldn't begin to say what the price should be. As for age, you could possibly take pictures of it and reach out to Olhausen. Assuming the serial number tag is still there, they should be able to tell you the exact date it was made. If not, they could at least tell you what date range it falls in.
As for the rubber, I have a video showing exactly how to tell. Check out my video list. It's in there.
I own a Goldenwest , can you give me your review? It sure is solid , and rails are all solid oak . Great channel !
Thank you very much!
I really like Golden West tables. They didn't make my list because they aren't widely available across the country (in the used table market). I tried my best to recommend tables that the average person would likely run across regardless of where they live in the U.S..
Keep up with the recommended service on your table and it should last several lifetimes!
Used to love playing on those.
Golden West is my Favorite truly American Made Table.
I have a 7 ft pool table , has a red and blue emblem on it "American Shuffle Board Union City New Jersey The Worlds Finest" its not a coin table. i believe it is a single slate, has the score dials on top of the railing is it a good brand?... Where can I get more info on it? like year or model ...enjoyed watching your videos
Valley slate bar table will last for ever !!!
What is your thoughts on a over size 8 foot Steeplton??
I bought a great Gold Crown III 9 footer from the great one pocket player Herb Lehmann back in 2005, he came to my home an installed it ( I have a large NYC loft) and shimmed the pockets a bit to make it "tougher." The whole time he told stories of the greats he was around, Grady, Cornbread, Miz, Ervolino...Then he shagged a few balls and gave me some great stroke tips...I play 14.1 almost exclusively so the cloth and rails are still in great shape.
Love my GC3. Got it for $1,000 from a pool hall that was closing in Long Island.
Whats 14.1
@@austingutierrez4701 Straight pool.
This was great info I purchased a gold crown 1 for 700 dollars pais another five to have it moved im in the process of getting it ready for an overhaul need cushions and cloth I have 1200 in it and just order another 200 in material to redo the cloth and rubber we will se how it goes ive watched your video on replacing cushions it was a great tutorial
Glad it helped!
I've had a Gandy Hustler since new....perfect for my needs since I can fit 9'.
Never would I sell it for 2K of today's devalued dollar.
What about antique Brunswick tables? It’s and 8 ft oversized with side rail pins and oak railing. I am looking at one and want to see what your opinion is.
IF U WANT A GOOD BRUNSWICK GET A GOLD CROWN THEY WILL LAST FOREVER
Hi Doug, have you ever moved or services a Minnesota Fats 8 Ft Slate table? If so, what id you think of it? Thanks!
Hi, Doug, I’ve watched this video and looking around, within my finances, I found a foremost table for practically free. Do you know anything about them? The very little Google gave me shows as a slate table and it looks like a commercial grade one with balls coming to a window after pocketed, no coin mechanism though. One interesting thing is the fact that when I’ve say some magnetic trays i have on top of it, it sticks! I’m not sure if slate would do that or this table has a metallic top! Any help is much appreciated!
It’s not in the best shape but it is what i can afford, and yes, I’m the stupid guy you’ve mentioned in your disassemble and reassemble videos who’s going to have to replace the cloth and bumpers lol but I’m following the best, you! Wish me luck!
Thank you for sharing your endeavors as a pool table mechanic!
Cheers
GC 1&2.....no 3's....
What dont you like about the gold crown 3?
Hello Doug, great video! Where in Florida can I pick up of these at your price line? What about Gabriels tables?
Looking at a Connelly Scottsdale. Is the 1 1/4” slate really a huge deal?
It's a good table. 1-1/4" slate is going to be VERY stable over time. Obviously, it's heavier than 7/8" slate. But, not insurmountable as far as lifting and moving.
I'm in different people's house every day for work & I see so many $8000-$10,000 tables that are absolutely dog shit... My god for $7k max, get a diamond, best table in the world. Or $3500 for a gold crown. Shit I can find a Gandy for $2k max & it beats most of those shitty "home tables"
I used to have an AMF 9' commercial table (similar look to Brunswick GC). We sold it with our previous home and now have a Burroughes and Watts 12 foot snooker table.
I own a Brinktun pool table. It was I believe manufactured back in the late 60s. The outside perimeter interior is a solid particleboard construction. The rails are a solid hardwood and the table is called Lith-o-Slate. I'm not sure it's true slate. It sure seems like it might be. Curious if anyone has ever heard of this brand or type of slate.
Question. Any thoughts on a Brunswick Viscount table? I have an opportunity to pick one up quite cheap. Just wondering if it's a good table or not. Thanks.
The GCIII’s are a different design, though?.. But I agree, they’re everywhere and they built thousands of them.. I’ve bought them for as low as $500.. But only 1’s and 2’s..
Doug, I haven’t heard you say anything about A.E. Schmidt tables. They’ve been around for a long time. Are used (or new) ones top tier tables. I’ve heard good and bad. Not sure what to believe. Thanks
They're like almost all of the other manufacturers. They make tables to fit price points. The good ones (more expensive ones) are really good. The less expensive ones.... not so much (in my opinion).
Great list with great information. How about a video of your least favorite brands?
Great idea! I may just do that!
Thanks for watching!
Vary good information. And helpful. Thank you
Valley slate pool table is the best will last forever mine is 75 years old , 1945
I have an 8 foot oversized table. Basically an 8 1/2 ft table. Im the second ownwer and have the original receipt from when it was perchased in 1972. Unfortunately i have come to a dead end on trying to find the manufacturer! There are no manufacturer markings on any pieces. Can you help?
Is a Caftmaster billards table any good? I can't find much about it. I think the company was out of Tampa FL. And heard they went out of business. Does anyone know anything about it? It's 8'x4' solid hardwood I think Oak but stained Mahogany. Hoping I have a Nice table it looks nice and seems to be built well. Lmk plz
great video, thoughts on an 9ft AMF Grand Prix. (1960's) sitting unassembled at parents for 35 years. will need cushions, cloth & probably pockets as rubber seems pretty hard/cracked and mechanic service to assemble, level etc.
I've owned a couple of Grand Prix tables. I love them. Slightly different styling to the Gold Crown. But, overall, just as good quality.
Thanks for the info, I'm in a desperate hunt for a good 8' which is probably the hardest to find.
Please tell me a where to look for good pool table cloth.
👽 thx.
Great choice, i bought a house 2yrs ago previous owner left a pool table UBI zenith coin table 8ft . Last week i covered it with simonis 860 cloth. You know anything about this table. I dont find anything on internet about it?
UBI is the acronym for "United Billiards Incorporated". They made tables from the 60's into the early 80's. Not bad tables. But, impossible to find parts for them.
What about an Olhausen Remington 30 Year Anniversary Edition? What is a good all in price? It is a 2005 Model
Thanks for these very helpful videos! What about Saunier Wilhem? Any feelings about their tables?
Any one owned a Fischer table?
Any in the last 5 years, pure junk
Gold crowns are too ugly for even the darkest basements. Olhausen is the sex
Great info exceptionally delivered!
did you specifically say the Gold crown 1 2 & 3 bc they are cheaper in today’s market or because they were the only ones made in america before the factory flooded?
No. I recommend the GC 1,2, and 3 because they're the most readily available on the used market. Later models aren't seen as often. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't recommend them. Because I do.
Your videos are amazing. I have learned so much. The information is thoughtful, presented very well and very accurate. I am so glad I found your channel.
Happy to hear your no. 1 pick seeing as I just bought a nice Gold Crown III!
im buying one this weekend, makes you feel good lol
Why would he leave out Gold Crown IV?
GC IV is a great table too. I said I,II, and III because they're more readily available. If you can get your hands on a GC IV for a good price, I'd say go for it!
@@CreativeRestorations Thanks!
Conneley and Rebco tables would have been on my list
i bought my table multi game prob is the rubber its like dead rubber ????
Hi Doug, what kind of material are the pockets holders from Brunswick Goldcrown 3 are made of? Its like between iron and aluminium .. :O Any sugsgestions to make those like new, like Gold? Same as the strip on the side. I was thinking about to put them in a bath with the labo liquids and electricity and add something like copper? Not a clue if it would work? I enjoyed your video about the assembly of a Goldcrown 3, was about to give you a coffeetip on your Paypal, but felt asleep, if you have a magnificant idea for me about those pockets I dont go to bed before you have this famous Cappuccino :P
what about brunswick celebrity?
Doug, I have been seeing a lot of antique Brunswick pool tables on the market lately. Aside from wear and tear issues, what are some downsides of buying a 100+ year old Brunswick? Thanks.
Knowing what to look for and where to look for damage is going to be the biggest challenge when looking at antique tables. It's kind of a catch 22. The average person is going to need the table assembled to see that everything is there and in tact. But, they're also going to need it disassembled to see what kind of condition the slate, rails, slate liner, cabinet, and cabinet joints are in. These antique tables are either going to be assembled or disassembled and you really need to see it both ways before committing to buying one.
Wear and tear is going to be the main thing keeping an old table from looking and playing like new. And, playing like new is the easy part to fix. Usually, it just takes a good installation, new cloth, new rubber, and a new set of balls to achieve that. It's the structural and cosmetic fixes that take the most skill and time.
I think I'm answering your question. But, if not, be a bit more specific with your question and I'll be happy to go in further detail.
@@CreativeRestorations Thank you. That is exactly what I wanted to hear. I think I will take a pass on an antique table. Probably not worth the time and effort that I would have to spend to avoid a mistake. I’m going to stick to a GC. I’ll leave the antiques to others.
I can't find a good 8 foot table for sale anywhere 😭😭 I need your help sir.
Consider Facebook Marketplace along with Craigslist and expand your search to a wider radius. Above all else, BE PATIENT! Think of your search like a marathon rather than a sprint. Sometimes it just takes time for the right table to come along.
Your thought on AMF tables. I found a excellent condition AMF PlayMaster 8.5" 3 piece slate table. Price is good and the cloth is in good shape.
Overall, AMF furniture type tables are pretty decent. I'd say on par with Brunswick. But, AMF did make some REALLY cheap tables as well. Their "PlayMaster" line of tables included both types. So, if you're looking at an all particle board PlayMaster, that's a cheap one. If it's solid wood, that's a good one.
Hello quick question is a olio a good table?
Are Highline billiard tables good?
I found a Gandy Sportman that is being reconditioned with rubbers/shims/clothes new play set and install/delivery fees for $3500. I hope it is a good deal
Hi. You recommend GC 1,2,3. What about the 4 ? Thanks
I would recommend any of the Gold Crown tables. I only specifically recommend the 1, 2, and 3 because they're the most widely available on the used market.
Just an observation in the Midwest, GC4s are relatively expensive and that is for tables coming out of pool halls. They are very good tables, but you'll still have to do some restoration after paying probably $4k plus for one.
What about gold crownIV
We need wood pool
Hello there love the content what j think about a 8ft conelly table
Connelly makes a very good pool table. It didn't make my list because they aren't consistently popular across the country. If they were, they definitely would have made the list!
I agree with Doug. Connelly made and now again makes a great table. Craig Connelly wasn't quite big enough to weather the Great Recession and went bankrupt before Valley-Dynamo in Texas bought them and started remanufacturing them again. Since I never sold any tables and had no dog in the hunt, for years I highly recommended Connelly first, then Olhausen and Brunswick tied for second. Connelly has thicker slates, beefier slate screws and I personally believe better construction methods and quality than most tables out there. Made here in the US. As Doug alluded to, Olhausen has entry level tables in their portfolio to compete with the bottom feeder sellers from overseas. But their regular line also is made here in the US. Also, the upper end Brunswick Contender tables are only minimally less of a table than their regular line. I am now retired from a profession that I was passionate about and loved doing. Having installed many new Brunswicks for dealers over the years, I bit my tongue about the quality and the concern for the quality going south. I complained to Marvin Eisenhower at Brunswick constantly about their slate. But they had no intention of fixing it. For years, EVERY piece of their 1" slate I installed that had the MDF liner was crowned! From ever so slightly to ridiculously humped. When they started having their tables outsourced from China, slates and all I gave up on them and haven't recommended them for years. Sorry, but that's my 2 cents worth and only my personal opinion.
I have been lucky enough to get a Gold Crown. Traded an eight foot Canada billiard table for. Plays like a dream, my higher ranked friends just love plating on it. I have a slight problem with it though. Thepockets aren't quite lined up properly on the rails, they sit a little high. I'lll keep looking for a video on how to fix this.
Any particular reason you did not include gold crown 4 tables ?
All Gold Crown tables are fantastic. But, the GC 4 and 5 are still a bit pricy compared to the 1,2, and 3. If you can find the newer ones for a good price, I would strongly recommend them. The other reason I didn't include them is, they aren't as widely available as the 1,2, and 3.
Hi Doug, I’m interested in a Brunswick Prestige about 20 years old and in great condition. They are asking $2,500. What is your opinion of this table? Thanks, Gary
Do you have a video of how to completely disassemble a bar box Valley Panther. I know to get everything including the slate out, but what about disassembling the internals (spider and pockets etc) I know how to get the legs off... so really just getting the internal pieces out. Thank you for your help.
I just purchased a Brunswick Greenbriar pool table. Your thoughts?
Thanks!
I’m heading to pick up a 9ft steepleton as we speak. I can hear my back screaming now
What do you think of used Dynamo pool tables? Are there any good?.
Brunswick Centennial
What about a Valley
100 into buying it 300 in felt bumpers were still good
100 bucks for someone to install the felt and level the table
I didn't mention Valley or Dynamo because they are a compromise table. They are extremely well built. But, they don't play like any home type or commercial (pool hall) table. They have buckets for pockets, they generally get into the public's hands after amusement companies have beat them to hell. They can't be leveled anywhere near as accurately as a 3 piece slate table. And, finally, they require more specialized equipment to move if you want to do it safely.
Coin operated tables are FANTASTIC at preforming the function they were designed to do - make sub-par players make more balls and get them to play more games at a time (which costs them more money). They are extremely robust. But, they are a compromise for a homeowner.
@@CreativeRestorations are you serious? I've set up 100's of Valleys and they are so true and level. You can also get 3 kinds of rails for pocket dimension. Put on Simonis 760 or 860 cloth and you have a professional smooth table. I'm not taking 6' but a 7 or 8' Valley are perfect especially for moving cause stay true 1 piece slate that levels itself on the inside lips. Sounds like you have no idea what a good Valley is like and must have only seen shitty bars where they don't take care of them. Play tournaments on 7' Valleys that travel all across USA and Canada 100-200 tables at each tourney
@@Lefishn Forgive me. I only worked for them.
Gold crown 4 last one made in the USA I say it was the best to play on .
I have a valley slate bay city Michigan and it’s 70 years old and going strong !!! Best bar table ever made
Diamond hands down the best.
U MUST HAVE NOT PLAYED ON A DIAMOND
Thank you so much for all of your videos. They have really helped me before I make a purchase.
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1st olhausen 2nd valley/dynamo 3rd Brunswick 4th AMF 5th....
Sportcraft LOL
What are your thoughts on a Brunswick heritage table needs cloth maybe rails ?
Not my favorite table.
Knowing what I know about tables, if I were looking for a used table for myself, I would not buy a Brunswick Heritage. FAR too many better tables out there.
Thanks
Can you tell me about a outside table
What do you want to know? That question is kinda like asking, "can you tell me about boats."
No offense intended. I just need the scope of the conversation narrowed a bit.
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Thanks for the video. I can only fit a 7 foot table in my basement. Did any of these brands make a 7 footer?