Lithium battery or lead acid ? Cost comparison |18650 lithium battery | 11 PARAMETERS to consider.
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Lead acid battery
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e-bike battery
e-rickshaw battery
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battery comparision
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The reason why in India we see lead acid still is mainly because of cost .. on the other hand we have safety as well..
Lithium ion has battery management circuit but if thats gone.. the chances of blowup is high .. but in lead acid it never blows up, but it does heat up and leaks out the water .. comparatively the impact is still very low in a crash.
Excellent presentation.Ur language is also lucid & could be understood easily. Thanks for Ur effort. please keep it up.
Very good knowledge about batteries, good information, thanks brother.
Hello bro I make a electric bike and used 10kw bldc motor which bettery you recommend me used to make a bettery pack a what quantity used to make 10kw bettery packe
Best explanation ever sir 👌
Thanks bhai from Bangladesh
I recommend
You might be thinking lead acid is cheap and li-ion is expensive if you are taking e bike for a short time like 2-3 years go with lead acid if you are going for long term go for li-ion or just buy a petrol scooter
And batteries ok change karna padhta hai agar aap lead acid ko long term use karoge toh karsakte ho but apko 2 saal ke baad battery change karna padhega
Very Nice 👌 Bro!!
Short but sweet information.😍😘
Could you please make video on summary of DIY Lithium batteries assembly process..!!!
Sir Maine electric cycle banai hai.maine Usme 24v 250watt motor ka use Kiya hai.maine Usme li-ion battery ka use Kiya hai jo *24v 20Ah* ki hai.maine saara connection bilkul thik tarah se Kiya hai phir bhi motor chal nahi pata Rahi hai.*jaise hi throttle Ko apply karta hu battery ka connection chhut jaati hai.
The problem can be either with the bms or motor controller.
To test bms try a different load of same wattage
For testing motor controller check out the max acceptable voltage if datasheet is available if not then try a different power source to test out the motor controller...
If facing any other issues contact me on mail
Super clarity
shabaash, achi teaching hai
Great... fundamental approach about batteries.... good vedio
Thanks a lot
Very good bhai
Li ion is best.lead acid maintance regularly and its old techno battery.li ion don't need to maintance.its my simple opinion.thanx for your defination.
Your technical coverage is good. The only thing I want to add is about lead acid flooded deep cycle vs lithium batteries, in a static application, where weight and size are not an issue. Lead acid is FAR better and literally cannot be defeated, IF you use the RIGHT charging technique. A goid quality, deep cycle LA battery can easily deliver 6000 to 10000 charge cycles with DOD at 50% max. At the rate of 2 cycles per day, that works out to about 25 years service life!!! Lithium ION, which is much more expensive, can come no where close to this. I have tested this special charging technique and found it really works. To get this kind of life, the battery should be of good quality components, that's all. And speaking further, I have noticed that lead acid batteries are very much safer and tolerate MUCH more abuse, when compared to Lithium ION batteries.
Is the special technique the multiple stage desulfation and trickle charging technique that you are talking about.
Thanks for the knowledge you shared....
Keep in touch...
@@DIYININDIA No. It's done using a special charger, that I have built myself, which takes care of sulphation issues and thereby ensures that the battery is not allowed to build up sulphation.
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@@DIYININDIA No. I use a radiant energy pulse charger, which does a very good job and also rids the battery from Sulphation.
Tell more cost comparison between led & lithion battery.
Wants know more about lithion battery for E rickshaw
In simple words it almost double, ie lithium batteries are double the cost compared to lead acid counterparts.
Recommend to watch more upcoming videos for battery information about e-rickshaw
Nice informative video 😉
Thnx bro
Very very knowledgeable and clarity in understanding
Very useful .information.Thanks.
Can you tell something about Nickel Iron NiFe batteries for home solar imverters.
Hi u r owsom work
Meny apni mechanical engineering complete Karli he soch Raha hu apna electric riksaw ka business Suru Karu bat akele bahut muskil hota he , electrical knowledge bhi bahut lagta mechanical ke saath
lithium mai bhi bhut sari hoti hai
Lithium ion
lithium iron phosphate
lithium polymer
Lithium-titanate
etc
Thank you very good
Also gotta ask all my fellow electric motorcycle riders by any chance do you know how long you’ve ridden on a lithium ion battery on full charge hours wise.
i have okinawa praise. it has lead acid battery which is SMF. 2 of them have fallen from 12v to 8v. i tried to restore by water and h2so4 but no success. then i found that it has gel electrolyte. can we restore a gel electrolyte based lead acid battery???
Kind of not possible buy the new one or ask someone for something we indians are good at ie. JUGAAD...
i have 2x12v 100ah in my mobility scooter, what would i need to change over
Just keep swapping em
पर्व भाई लेडी के हिसाब से कोई e-scooter बताओ,,,लिथियम मे
Ups soller bettary ke liye kunsa charger best hai? please
Thier ain't any best
It's just which fulfills your needs
Thanks for the useful info.
Hi
i would like To know one thing
in case one E- Rikshaw installed with 48v and 60 Ah Battery (set of 4 , 12v, 100ah Battery) with 300 kg load giving a KM range of aprox 80-100KM
what will be the difference in KM range ? if we replace the battery with Lithium ion 48V 60ah Battery.
Won't make a huge difference as only the weight is reduced for a slow application of erickshaw
@@DIYININDIA thnx
may i have your mail id or contact no. please
parvgupta001@gmail.com
Are you Singer? Your Expression is like that!
BTW video is good
बहुत बढ़िया दोस्त
Are vai lithium ion battery ka warranty lena bohot muskil he or uska ditributor bohot kam he & the last thin is lithium ion battery me ek cell bhi kharab hota he to bech ne wala company kehete he ki aap ne jyada change kar diya bo kehe ke warranty dene se mukar jata he.
Please guide me. I want to set inverter in my house with lithium ion ferrous phosphate.
Overall load approx 400 watt(fan,bulb,tv etc). With full load it will take 10 hours to discharge. So how much voltage need? How many cell need? How many will be cost ?
Cost will be quite high , voltage depending upon your inverter
It Ather 450
Can we make 48 volt 24 ah battery using by 3.7 volt and 3 ah batteries and how
Yes by stacking 13 cells in series and 10 in parallel
For more details search for a 13s 10p lithium battery pack...
Thanks brother
Thanks for sharing such useful information...
Please avoid the back ground music tunes...
Please have a long ride review of Okinawa ipraise
Nice bro...
Thanks your explanation... . i want to know more can you please suggest me magazine, book , blog or any other medium from i will get more detail on electric vehicles batteries and charging points technology.
Battery University website
Elecktrek
Teslanomics
Jehu Garcia
Rich rebuilds
@@parvgupta5361 thankyou
Mere pass mahindra alfa mini e rickshaw h usme led battery h usme lithium battery lag sakti h kya
Bilkul
लेड एसिड बैटरी खाली सस्ती ही नहीं पड़ती जब इसकी सही तो उस खत्म हो जाती है कहने का मतलब जब यह चार्ज होना बंद हो जाती है यानी कि खराब हो जाती है तो आप इसे अंदर के इलेक्ट्रोलाइट और प्लेट को चेंज करा सकते हैं यानी बहुत कम कॉस्ट में आपकी बैटरी दोबारा से न्यू हो जाएगी जबकि लिथियम आयन बैटरी एक बार खराब होने के बाद इसके सेल कभी काम नहीं आते हैं इसका बैकअप हमेशा के लिए खत्म हो जाता है यह लिथियम आयन बैटरी का सबसे बड़ा ड्रॉबैक है हालांकि लिथियम आयन बैटरी हल्की होती हैं माइलेज अच्छी दे सकती हैं लेकिन एक लिमिट के बाद इन्हें चेंज करना पड़ता है हालांकि यह कॉन्सेप्ट कहता है कि अगर लिथियम आयन बैटरी में ग्रेफाइट और कॉपर के बीच में सिलिकॉन के लिए हो जाए तो लिथियम आयन ऑक्साइड में नहीं बदल पाएंगे और बैकअप बढ़िया मिलता रहेगा लेकिन यह भी अभी तक एक कांसेप्ट है लैपटॉप पावर बैंक तथा मोबाइल फोन जैसी हल्के इलेक्ट्रॉनिक आइटम में लिथियम आयन बैटरी आदर्श है लेकिन बड़े वाहनों में इस बैटरी का कोस्ट बहुत ज्यादा बैठता है और खराब होने के बाद पूरी बैटरी बदलनी पड़ती है जबकि लेट एसिड बैटरी को रिपेयर आराम से किया जा सकता है अगर आप अच्छे टेक्नीशियन है तो इसे घर पर ही बढ़िया से रिपेयर कर सकते हैं सिर्फ इसकी प्लेटों को बदलना होता है इसीलिए इनवर्टर जैसी घरेलू आइटम में लेड एसिड बैटरी ज्यादा फायदेमंद साबित होती है वैसे उन जगहों पर जहां लंबे समय के लिए लाइट जाती है वह लिथियम आयन बैटरी ज्यादा कारगर है क्योंकि उसका बैकअप ज्यादा होता है
Assalam o Alaikum Bhai jaan
Iska weight kitna hai
Lithium battery cell?
Nice.. which is the best battery to run 250 watt / 24v motor for e cycle for long time.
18650 lithium batteries
hello very good video
i have a question
spouse 1.5kv ki motor hai usko 48v,30ah ka battery pack lagaya wo scooter kitne kms chalegi kaise calculate karen
Take like the max power multiply it with 0.6 and divide by your battery kwh you get your runtime
Otherwise the reliable way it to test in real world...
Sir each battery .
How much price
I guess u did really good job. But my challenge was Language. Please add subtitles.
72volt24ah battery use for2000wat bldc motar
माइलेज कितना मिलेगा।टॉप स्पीड कितनी होगी,35amp cantroller
I have never seen any youtuber like you so faar your research is good.....hatsoff!! I have a request pls do DIY Lithium Ion battery with can give atleast 500wh. It will inspire many to buy these batteries and built one on their own. Also I'm searching for best source to buy these Li-ion batteries in bulk hoping u help me in this.
Surely will be making videos on bigger battery packs and how to make them at home.
For buying lithium batteries please contact your nearest sellers on IndiaMART or buy them from Lajpat Rai market new Delhi...
DIY IN INDIA Nice bro looking forward for your video. Yeah I have been looking into indianmart, bangood, Alibaba everything. Thankew for the info, I also heard that they are available in mumbai electronics shops.
I am a sales of 18650 lithium ion, but we only make 2 capacity, 1200mah and 1500mah. we have warehouse in Delhi and Mumbai. if you got any question about us, kindly reply me. thanks
@@user-bk3qb4vz2c Hi! how much you charge per battery I mean 3.2v 1500mah battery
Upto 4.2v for 18650 whereas we charge till 3.6v for LFP batteries
Thank you for info
Also I would like to create a battery pack for 48v40ah
Can you please tell me here what is the each cell ah needed
1. What ah each cell need for 40ah
2. For 48v howany cells required
3. Assume if 150 cells required how to balance 40ah when battery pack gives low ah?
The ah needed for each cell can't be decided as you can buy the available type of cells either 2500 or 3300 mah for example.
Or in other words you will need 16x2500mah cells in parallel for 40ah
For 48v 13 cells are required nominal
Actually for a 13s16p 40ah 48v battery you will need 208 cells
@@DIYININDIA yes, really greate, thanks for reply boss, can you please tell me where/which is the best company 18560 cells for 22mah ?
Please share your email Id for future guidance.
I would recommend panasonic or lg cells for 18650 batteries they perform quite well
For contact information please check the channel about
Please tell your signature voice start...so that channel will be popular
Sure sarbajit will keep that in mind
I have 48v 17.70 A bldc E-riksha motor, so I want to drive the motor with four 12V batteries which are connected in series , so , it could be possible drive with in it
It surely is possible according to the information provided by you
I think you have a motor controller and throttle,if so you won't face any problem.
Say by any chance does anyone know what cycles measurement is?
Video is good but battery details some missing
Thanks vishu what kind battery details did you expect please elaborate i will either tell you in reply or make another video about it ASAP...
@@DIYININDIA lithium battery price and which battery use for different motors ?
In India lithium battery is available at a price of ₹20k per kwh.And it doesn't matter which type of motor you use with any type of battery,they are both completely independent factors...
Rather consider the maximum power that your battery could deliver to the load at peak...
@@DIYININDIA kya.e.ricsha.mea.chalegi.or.seaf.rahegi.jankare.dea.ya.vidio.banay.is.weshea.per
Yes it would be ideal for e rickshaw but would cost quite a bit
Bhai jan lithium battery cells 18650 inverter ki lay istimal karsakti hay agar haa to kam say kam kitnei cells
Actually yes you can use them but with a special inverter designed to handle lithium batteries
No. Of cells depends on what size of inverter, load and capacity you want...
Batteries diploma Kya kiya
Its the internet brother
Lithium batteries ni jankari and kythi malse ? Te jaldi jankari mokalso. Thanks.
भाई lead acid battery or lithium ion battery इन दोनों चार्जर क्या अलग अलग होता है और क्यू
Sir muje lithium battery ka 72v 20 amh banana he kese banana he please sir muje sikhna hae
Can we charge our battery while its discharging?, like our cell phone, if we can do means, please give me that knowledge how to make that,
Yes you can charge your battery while its being used or discharged.This can be done by supplying more charge current than the current being consumed by the load(discharge current). ie if charge current is more than discharge current then you will be charging your battery...
@@DIYININDIA for that is any recommend circuit design is there, because battery having only 2 terminals + and -- from that how we can connect, charging point and discharging point, from same input and output,
@@DIYININDIA jehugarcia I have another question, every battery having only one terminal point which is + and -- from this points only we are discharging and charging, while discharging time if i connect my charger cable on the battery terminal, is the load will suck the power from my charging cable or load will suck the power from battery only? Do you have any recommend circuit design for real time charge and discharge,
Vai kon sa battary backup Jada deta ha 3.7v lilon battery or 4v lead asid battery
Obviously lithium battery
Bro my ridge plus(Okinawa ) is given only a fast charger.What to do?
No problem use it for charging,and do share how long does it actually take to charge it up,is it the lithium battery version?
Lifepo4 battery india में कौन सी कंपनी की लें ?
Depends upon your requirements
Is okaya is good for long lifespam ?
It's not bad considering the low manufacturers in india
Tesla mein. Use hone vaali 18650 and model 3 mein use hone vaali 21700 battery ka koi diy video hai toh plz link share kijiye
Watch TH-cam channel jehu garcia,ev west,fully charged, TESLANOMICS,two bit da vinci , etc for the diy Tesla batteries stuff and more tesla related questions...
It's such a wide topic can't be summed up by just one video...
Watch these channels regularly to know more.
Bhai mere paas 60 sala laptop ke aur uske banana Chahta Hoon electric bike ki battery 12 volt ki mein kaun sa BMS Laga usme please help me kitne parallel aur kitne series please help me
Please use a 3s 30amp bms
And 3cells in series rest in parallel
Making a hybrid pack
48v24 capacity 3.2 6000mh how many battery
Bhai nominal voltage, OCV, parasitic draw, internal resistance ka nhi btaya.
Nominal voltage is the rated voltage of battery may vary than load or open circuit voltage (OCV)-BATTERY voltage when no load is connected usually 4.2v for a fully charged lithium cell.
Parasitic draw can be defined as the small current drawn by your circuit or your bms which leads to ultimately depleting your battery in months or a year
Internal resistance is a very important factor which is inversely proportional to the current rating of the cell ie the more the internal resistance the less is the max current output rating of cell.
It's so helpful in brief about battery comparison
Suppose 3 v 2ah 4 battery connected in series what is output
12v 2ah
Thank you brother
Kyun ki lead acid battery discharge hone par apneaap charge ho jati hai
How to made own battery in home for petrol bike convert to electrical bike pls review one video thank you brother 💐💐
Tell what bike you wish to use and your speed or range requirement to the charge.
24v 250watt motor mein 24v 32ah ka battery use kar sakte hain?
Without any doubt, yes
@@DIYININDIA Thanks. Kisine mujhe bataya tha ke 18ah se jyada lene se controller kharab ho jayega.
Thier ain't anything like that...
@@DIYININDIA 24v 250 watt motor ka highest Ah rating kya hai Sir? Usme 100Ah to use nehi kar sakte na?Just asking...
You can use any amount of ah capacity no problem even if you use 10000000ah it just decides the run-time no relationship with the rating of controller in terms of ah i would recommend to watch my batteries series for more information....
However the more the ah of the battery the more weight your vehicle have to carry of batteries and thus would carry less passenger weight.
Bhai 48v ,750w ki 8 motor ko ek saath full speed me chalane ke liye kitne volt ki , kitne w, kitne Ampiar ki lithium ion battery chaiye
For series you will be needing 8x48v batteries of 750wh capacity each atleast
Otherwise for parallel running you will need a battery of 48v and 750x8wh battery pack
ie-125ah battery pack atleast...
48 वोल्ट की एक ही बैट्री या 12 वोल्ट की 4 बैट्री को सिरीज में जोड़ कर । सभी मोटर को चलाया जा सकता है । कितनी देर ये बैट्री के ah पर डिपेंड करता है
Exactly...
मुझे लिथियम बैट्री मैन्युफै्चरर की तलाश है जो मेरी जरूरत के अनुसार बैट्रियां बना सके
sir
72w 18ah lithium ion battery
how much no battery(18650) useing plese
@@DIYININDIA
sory sir
72v 18ah
how much
lithium ion battery (18650) useing
20 in series and 8 in parallel a total of 160 cells approx....
Lithium titanium oxide battery ki knowledge he ko iska price kitna hai Iske bare mein Jankari ho to bat do bro
Its quite expensive about 10 times costly but great life it seems to be the future as of now...
72v 40ah lithium ion battery cost
Lead acid battery kyi saal chlti hain bina charge kiye unme water or acid dal k or repair b vse ho jati h lithium m es nhi h ok
भाई 18650 लिथियम आयन बैटरी को चार्ज करने पर गर्म क्यों होती है
Due to electrolytes and its chemistry
Lithium iron phosphate battery Kidhar milegi
Try to contact sellers from indiamart near you...
Is it in English? 😕😕
music annoying
Where do you get genuine cells from?
I personally buy them from kucha Chaudhary market New Delhi
I recommend that genuine cells can be found anywhere you just need an eye to find them ,also do the testing of cells go for variety first, try about 100+ cell types and do their capacity testing, you will find the best cell very soon
@@DIYININDIA
How much did samsung cell cost you, i am currently in chennai
It's nearly about ₹200 per cell atleast. For Samsung but lg and Panasonic NCR 18650b are even better
Bhai 36V 12ah 250w lithium battery online le saktha he kithna rate hoga.. Online site he.. Please
Bhai plz kabhi paid promotion mat karna
I want high drain battery 30 a # where I can buy them
Buy it online from ebay or AliExpress
@@DIYININDIA aliexpress and ebay provide a fake copy with same name # branding r different from genuine cells ie
Then you can buy it from either trusted sellers online or through IndiaMART dealer near you
Mera name sarang hai cell grading machin ka stop curent formula kya hota hai aap apana WhatsApp contect dedo bahut jaruri kam hai
मुझे 72v 2000watt हब मोटर को लिथिनीअम आईएन कितने volt , and amh कि लगेगी और करायचा कितना आऐगा
Lithium battery should have a nominal voltage of 72 volts and ah means capacity that will depend upon what range you want
Hi parv I need your help for making e bike. I hope you like to help me
Sure...
THANKS I WILL CONTACT YOU BROTHER
Bhai tyra number day na
Please contact on mail provided in channel description
Make a ebike plz
Making an electric car right now
Will make ebike very soon
72volt24ah battery use for2000wat bldc motar
माइलेज कितना मिलेगा।टॉप स्पीड कितनी होगी,35amp cantroller