What Does the Father Want? Oshi no Ko

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  • @gumballdarwin2330
    @gumballdarwin2330 ปีที่แล้ว +1301

    He has ways to kill perfectly without getting his hands dirty. He did it before using manipulate that led couple's double suicides.

    • @rajahalahati5115
      @rajahalahati5115 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What chapter that double couple suiclde is?

    • @einzweichschein
      @einzweichschein ปีที่แล้ว +86

      @@rajahalahati5115
      It's just a passing comment. The twins half-sibling, Himekawa, told them. It's the Tokyo Blade Stage drama Arc.

    • @Americanpsycho452
      @Americanpsycho452 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sounds like a next coming of johan without his other powers

    • @Americanpsycho452
      @Americanpsycho452 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @rizzler I'm not comparing I'm just their positions in the anime are similar to each other because their both serial killers

    • @09TamagoPan45
      @09TamagoPan45 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He has played 500 hours worth of among us games

  • @elysainempire4628
    @elysainempire4628 ปีที่แล้ว +429

    Fun fact white flowers in japan means purity and grief and most commonly found at funerals. Something to give extra meaning to the stalker presenting them to Ai, he was basically calling her pure and announcing her death. White roses also have the meaning of Devotion and silence so Aqua's father, if we go by his theory, was sending the meaning that he was devoted to silencing Ai.

    • @tonydak8573
      @tonydak8573 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeah, Hikaru’s targets are always women with pure ambition who are not marred by ulterior motives. Those are the symbols of white Vs dark eyes.

    • @twbp8298
      @twbp8298 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Damn this comment made me anxious for Kana for a moment as the color of the stick she chooses was white. But considering the latest chapter, I’m not sure if the color is a foreshadowing or a red herring anymore.

  • @albedo-sama9778
    @albedo-sama9778 ปีที่แล้ว +1149

    So this is just my personal speculation,
    Maybe Airi sexually assaulted Hikaru back when she met him. And from then on he started hating female celebrities. Since like you said Aka Akasaka already showed a similar situation where a middle school kid Melt was taken advantage of by an older woman.
    Maybe that is why he kills popular and upcoming female celebrities.
    Also he must have approached Ai who might have been impressed by his acting chops and manipulated her into loving him, considering Ai was someone who was desperate for finding love and having a family.
    So while Ai must have genuinely loved him, he might have just seen her as another older woman who doesn't mind getting frisky with someone younger.
    Ai might have sensed this hostility and that might be the reason she broke off the relationship.

    • @kikkuqi
      @kikkuqi ปีที่แล้ว +328

      ur theory might actually be right. I find it hard to believe an 11 year old boy would impregnate a women without any reason.

    • @mitacestalia7532
      @mitacestalia7532 ปีที่แล้ว +228

      Even worse, it is possible that both didn't love each other. Kamiki admitted his hatred toward women and Ai admitted the truth that her love to him was a lie.
      The plot twist will be that Kamiki wasn't the one who killed her out of respect of Ai's decision to raise their children, but the relative of Kamiki's victim.
      Theory tho lol

    • @albedo-sama9778
      @albedo-sama9778 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      ​@@mitacestalia7532 idk tht kind of makes sense but at the same time would feel way out of place for the plot since Ai seemed to be someone who would genuinely fall for someone who showed her affection, as someone who was has never experienced it first hand.
      Also his only (known) victim at tht time would have been Airi and he must have revealed to the husband that she had tried to assault him, thereby leading to their double suicide later on. So it doesnt seem like there would be any relative of Airi willing to kill Ai. Like it doesnt make sense tht the victim's relative would try to murder another victim. But hey thts just my speculation. Your theory is kind of cool too

    • @albedo-sama9778
      @albedo-sama9778 ปีที่แล้ว +177

      @@kikkuqi same dude. In a scenario where an older influential celebrity might have been impregnated by a 11 yr old boy, its implausible that a little boy who is just a newcomer to the entertainment industry would try to get it on with an older actress.
      There aint no way she didnt sexually assault him and the sad part is, in real life, situations where a young boy is taken advantage of an older woman, the kid would be made fun of for daring to complain abt it so it mostly get swept under the rug just because they're men.
      I hate Kamiki for causing Ai's death and he deserves karma for all the poor actresses lives he's taken but if this speculation is true, a part of me would feel horrible for what he had to experience as a kid, but tht still doesnt mean all the shit he did later on is forgiveable. No child, regardless of their gender, should have to go through such an ordeal.

    • @micu8942
      @micu8942 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      bro is a misogynist too??? omg he is literally me!!!!

  • @aliciaagane4836
    @aliciaagane4836 ปีที่แล้ว +1238

    This theory is interesting and if it is true hilarious because i think Ruby claimed to be Amaterasu during the first few chapters when they tricked miyako into thinking they are well god so she would take care of them. 😂

    • @tyrellsoki5923
      @tyrellsoki5923 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      damnn good point.. could foreshadow what we will find out next

    • @Ra-fh4zx
      @Ra-fh4zx ปีที่แล้ว +54

      even Hikaru Graduating from Science Seemed Strange since Doctor might be Graduated from the same
      Hikaru might know the future events

    • @NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache
      @NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Aqua on the other hand pretended to be "the God of Entertainment".. the same God which just so happened to have a shrine in his hometown, Ame-no-Uzume no Mikoto, which as explained by Aqua himself, was also the deity of performing arts.

  • @Bernkastel-S117
    @Bernkastel-S117 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    My theory is that Airi took advantage of Hikaru when he was 11. That could have been traumatic enough to awaken the killer instinct (black stars). Especially if he was r*ped.

    • @thebakalord
      @thebakalord ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Most likely… the Killer instinct could’ve been due to his own childhood as well, from what Akane was able to gather from Hikaru, is that he was molested and raped by Airi which resulted in his first child being born. But matter such as this when the brain is still developing(your brain finishes developing at mid to late 20’s) and such could’ve caused some damages to his brain, and such his mental state and that was when he was at a young age as well and when he was about to reach puberty, his mind caused it to awaken the black star eyes. And as for why he kills people, mainly it actors and idols, it could be due to them portraying similar traits to Airi and that he wishes to pull the plug before they do it but why did Hikaru kill Ai, from what she implied is that it was a mutual breakup, but for why… either he just wants to kill female stars just because he put them into the same category as Airi… nah that’s a motive too naive to be the cause of Goro, Ai and other female stars deaths, but rather: to cover information about himself, Ai was a rising star and it was most likely she would be exposed for having children at a young age, and then actors who were with them would realise that he got her pregnant. As for the murder of Airi and her husband… he most likely told the husband which caused him to be kill himself and Airi. Or its possible that he saw Ai as an older woman and decided to kill her as well; which means it’s possible that his trauma caused him to become this warped but at a later date and then killed her or rather that he discovered that Ai’s love for Hikaru was a lie and that its possible that Ai was his first relationship outside Airi and that he loved her and wanted to get revenge which is why he killed her.
      Phew! Oof that was a tangent I went on, now I understand how Akane feels when analysing someone

    • @rosaguifarro5310
      @rosaguifarro5310 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@thebakalordhikaru didn’t kill ai he I get the feeling that hikaru send a stalker to track her location so the stalker kill her out of rage and hikaru could feel the satisfaction

    • @TheSoulCalledZuzia
      @TheSoulCalledZuzia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rosaguifarro5310 why would he need the stalker to track Ai when she called Hikaru and told him where she lives? he must've killed Ai, otherwise there's no way the info about Ai's pregnancy/address'd leak. and he wouldnt know about white roses if he wasnt involved, would he?

    • @TheSoulCalledZuzia
      @TheSoulCalledZuzia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@thebakalord "from what she implied is that it was a mutual breakup"
      Actually, I don't think that's what's implied. When Ai called Hikaru, right after asking her question, she said "No, I'm not trying to get back together", which suggests that Hikaru's response to Ai's call was "Do you want to get back together with me" (or something like this) as Ai saying something like this without any prompt from the other side would be weird. It, then, implies that Hikaru wanted to be with Ai (otherwise, that wouldn't be his first reaction/first thing on his mind), which means he wasn't over the break-up yet. Which means that even if Hikaru agreed to break-up with Ai he didn't exactly want that/changed his mind.

    • @rosaguifarro5310
      @rosaguifarro5310 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheSoulCalledZuzia hmmmm so hikaru didn’t send the stalker to kill ai then maybe the stalker finds her address so he could kill her out of frustrations

  • @delyan3190
    @delyan3190 ปีที่แล้ว +1605

    Honestly I'm not sure my heart will be able to take it, if Akane does get killed by Hikaru but if it were to happen we can be sure Aqua is gonna make Hikaru suffer even more.
    Edit: WTF I did not realize the comment did so well! Ty for 1k Likes.

    • @EmeraldaKasim
      @EmeraldaKasim ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Hikaru is the goat. I hope he wins.

    • @Merpati_.
      @Merpati_. ปีที่แล้ว +38

      hikaru is baddas antagonis

    • @fais2779
      @fais2779 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      i hope its akane first and then kana or kana first and then akane after that ruby, i hope author make aqua more suffer slowly 😁

    • @akhutoYaro000
      @akhutoYaro000 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Yeah man, I like Akane more than Kana. If she died i would be depressed for 1 week

    • @voilavoila196
      @voilavoila196 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@fais2779 I hope your turn'll come first

  • @superadteam
    @superadteam ปีที่แล้ว +581

    I honestly think ruby will probably die, or at least have a close moment to it. I feel like it’ll be the sparking moment that causes them reveal their past life identity. This scenario will either further Aqua’s guilt of not being able to save anyone, or break the cycle because now he’s an adult and can save others. While ruby is like bleeding out or something, perhaps aqua pulls out his past life doctor skills and tries to save ruby. This is probably when ruby will connect the dots or hallucinate the doctor onto aqua in some kind of way.

    • @lkoyumil
      @lkoyumil ปีที่แล้ว +51

      i highly doubt the manga author will do this kind of scenario again, it's more likely that aqua will end up dying, which will make ruby start blaming herself or something like that

    • @naufalmEZa
      @naufalmEZa ปีที่แล้ว +22

      That's bound to happen anytime soon tbh,
      It's unthinkable that the doctor status was only for nuances.
      While ofc the murder shouldn't happen outright, maybe Ruby lure his father out for a dinner and got poisoned instead, her being hospitalized again may be the one perfect situation for that secret to be unfolded.

    • @josiahjacinto4156
      @josiahjacinto4156 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think both of them are going to die remember the last lines of mephisto sleep well children of stars

    • @Pusheenowaaa
      @Pusheenowaaa ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@josiahjacinto4156 I doubt the author wrote the ending song for the anime

  • @najmifarhan614
    @najmifarhan614 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    there's also a theory that ruby is the incarnation of amaterasu, aqua is tsukuyomi, ai is izanami, and the father is izanagi.

    • @Lise829
      @Lise829 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      At least the family act way different than amaterasu, tsukuyomi , izanami, izanagi

    • @alexwijaya6857
      @alexwijaya6857 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Then Taiki is Susanoo

    • @JoacoG11
      @JoacoG11 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's not possible anymore right? The crow girl goes by Tsukuyomi, she must have something to do with him

  • @composermega
    @composermega ปีที่แล้ว +181

    As an Akane fan I really hope she makes it. Also the theory about the gods is really clever, given the twins pulled that stunt on the manager’s wife saying they were those two gods as children, making it god tier foreshadowing.

    • @Nicole-yo9lv
      @Nicole-yo9lv ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Istg akane is my favorite character i rlly don’t want her to die

  • @Ra-fh4zx
    @Ra-fh4zx ปีที่แล้ว +394

    Hikaru might be killing many actors which have enthusiasm because of trauma he might experience in the Acting Industry his Ideology might seemed to be similar to Johan from Monster
    He did not killed his children because he knows that what they are doing and have same determination as him
    i have seen in the anime/manga when Ruby started to talk fluently Ai asked how can you speak such complicated sentence are you genius? probably genetic? this also give the evidence that Hikaru was Intelligent
    Speaking of Supernatural it might be the Interpretation of the person
    Edit: When Ai entered Acting Industry she was killed why?

    • @slowbutsus1157
      @slowbutsus1157 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      there a possibilty the father also have a twin.. because twin is genetic.

    • @stellarmelody2784
      @stellarmelody2784 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But question is why is he making kid what his goal is?? Like he want destory the hopes ambition but why??

    • @aw11as
      @aw11as ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@stellarmelody2784 keep the talented children alive to grow into ambitious idols/actors, a steady supply of victims is what I assume

    • @Ra-fh4zx
      @Ra-fh4zx ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@stellarmelody2784 i assume that Hikaru wanted to save them from the darkness of that industry as they can't live upto their expectations
      they could even face hate or jealously towards them he just want them to escape them
      his children experienced or saw and tried to survive it is what i feel

    • @mitacestalia7532
      @mitacestalia7532 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@slowbutsus1157 Hold up, this is actually a good plot twist. Hikari has another twin who is different kind of messed up.

  • @statz3697
    @statz3697 ปีที่แล้ว +465

    Your theory are so believable and so concise and also fun to watch they’re honestly amazing.

    • @SylvanesW
      @SylvanesW  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Thank you :)

  • @vwoeng7477
    @vwoeng7477 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    I know a lot of people tend to gravitate to "Hikaru is reincarnated" theory, but I'm honestly not a fan of it because it sweeps Himekawa's mother abuse of a literal child under the rug. Hikaru joined the troupe at 10, Himekawa was born when Hikaru was 11. So we can assume that Hikaru was groomed or SA'd almost straight away or a few months as a newbie. If anything, this witch is the cause of Hikaru spiraling into a serial killer specifically targeting women like her.
    A bit of rambling, but I noticed that Hikaru only made a move against Himekawa's mother when he was around 18~19. I would also argue that Goro's death was likely to be more of the stalker's impulse, and the double suicide was his true first murder. The crow deity never said the middle schooler was the mastermind. Only that the stalker was with him. That's a lot of missing context. Perhaps there is correlation between Hikaru not acting anymore with his current serial killing of talented actresses. Maybe something happened between the time he quit the trope and presumably went to the hospital Ai gave birth at. Hell, maybe Goro's death was a trigger. Maybe his killing pattern is a combination of the abuse under Airi and the turbulence of breaking up with Ai. I reread the manga a little and there was a part where Aqua noted that people are in acting because they usually love it. Could this be a foreshadowing about Hikaru in whatever made him unable to do acting anymore is a huge source of frustration, and seeing the women with significant impact on his life still able to continue acting drove him to murderous envy?
    EDIT: WAIT I GET IT. Hikaru Kamiki's love/obsession for acting is why Aqua said acting is his form of revenge. Nothing says poetic justice more than using what your enemy loves most to destroy them.

  • @Owlzz_
    @Owlzz_ ปีที่แล้ว +108

    "Corrupted person action can corrupt others" yeah this story teach me about that

  • @einszweidrei486
    @einszweidrei486 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    The easiest and the one most likely considering it lines up with how the manga shows the "dark side" of the industry is: Kindaichi didn't want Lala Lie to go under. A scandal like any of the two existing would be Lala Lie under media eyes in the negative way, especially considering Ai's own popularity and her death. He's the representative of the company and, as such, will be the one who'll be affected the most from media backfire.
    He definitely is aware, but chooses to stay shut to save his own skin

    • @thatnohrianscum6475
      @thatnohrianscum6475 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree. There is no way the director hasn't noticed any links between hikaru + aqua, and the actresses that "disappear" + flowers. He's definitely sweeping things under the rug.

  • @Alienokojigaming
    @Alienokojigaming ปีที่แล้ว +129

    People after watching trailer(didnot read manga) of oshi no ko : Wow this is gonna be a wholesome anime ☺☺
    People after watching Ep 1 of Oshi no ko : *TRAUMATIZED* ☠💀☠

    • @blue01
      @blue01 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      thats what exactly happened to me

    • @rawrrawr5604
      @rawrrawr5604 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      💐🔪

    • @yovanchaos9181
      @yovanchaos9181 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Funny thing is i read the manga didn't feel shit but the anime traumatized me

    • @nikolaivelikov7871
      @nikolaivelikov7871 ปีที่แล้ว

      💀☠️💀😢

  • @elysainempire4628
    @elysainempire4628 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    You miss the panel of Ai having black star eyes when talking about her true self

    • @congee9417
      @congee9417 ปีที่แล้ว

      She has them in the first episode of anime too, when she mentions her mother as the person who abandoned her to the blonde guy :000

  • @Zero-wk2np
    @Zero-wk2np ปีที่แล้ว +62

    It is an interesting thing the fact that the white roses are a way to "mark" those he wants to kill. Those flowers were seen for the first time when Ai was stabbed (they were carried by the stalker), teh second time was when Hikaru brought these roses at teh cemetery back then, and then the last time we saw those flowers when Akane sees them.
    But there is one time that is truly worrying : The TRUE first time when we see these flowers is during the first time we saw Kana, during her interview at Chapter 6.In the first case of the first page,you can see whites roses at the right....

    • @SylvanesW
      @SylvanesW  ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Hmm, you're right; they are the same flowers. That's actually pretty interesting.
      I thought Kana was interviewed by Kaburagi and Gotanda for a role in the film, but maybe that's not true...There's a possibility that Kamiki is behind the interview, and maybe that's how Aqua plans to involve him with the film. Or Kamiki is involved with the film in some other way since he owns a production agency.
      It's a great find either way.

    • @congee9417
      @congee9417 ปีที่แล้ว

      hikaru was at the cemetary???? what? which episode ?!

  • @mitacestalia7532
    @mitacestalia7532 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    Honestly, I think it will be interesting if the one residing in Kamiki's body currently not Kamiki's himself, but other entities.
    Kamiki probably killed himself after being raped and the entity make a contract with him. The entitiy basically can use his body and live as human as long the real Kamiki wish is being fulfilled.

    • @chongjunxiang3002
      @chongjunxiang3002 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Strangest place to have Naraku setting here...but everything is possible in this story I guess.

    • @moononthewindynight27
      @moononthewindynight27 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hmmm kinda like Ciel and Sebastian only they share a body

  • @louielow582
    @louielow582 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Amazing theory, although there is actually a mention of Amaterasu, only. And it was mentioned by Ruby Hoshino in Chapter 3 where she said, "I'm the Embodiment of Amaterasu."

  • @blackcat3923
    @blackcat3923 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I have a theory on how the father probably is very similar to Aqua. In the manga when Aqua decides to officially become an actor. His first gig was as a Stalker in that already failing drama. He talks about how, unlike Ai, his mother, he doesn't have that "star power" or talent. Which is ultimately what I think the white star eyes symbolize. I think the black eyes, like you said, are a sort of get to my goal by any means symbol. The reason I bring up this scene is because while he's talking about his lack of talent, he brings up how he cultivates his acting based on the environment around him. Using the puddles on the ground, his entryway and the camera angle. He's using things around him, but this can also be shown when he uses people around him. This leads into why I think the father kills young women with these eyes. It's because he can't have these eyes for himself. No matter what, he has to use things and people around him for what he wants. He can't just simply succeed with his own talent and off his own merit. I think it's a genuine hate for women who can do what he can't.
    But hey, that's just a theory.

    • @gyro7544
      @gyro7544 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *an anime theory*

  • @BilliestSilly
    @BilliestSilly ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Ame no Uzume no Mikoto was also mentioned as having a shrine in the area of the hospital and could be the source of inspiration and ambition to the young actresses.

  • @WNPamasaGG
    @WNPamasaGG 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey... I think you should make another video about the latest Oshi no ko chapter....
    Chapter 146 reveal so many things with interesting cliffhanger... You should watch it....
    You doing a good job afterall...
    Your analysis is on point...

  • @lexieparrott2375
    @lexieparrott2375 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    interesting video! made some great points. i also have felt there’s something suspicious to kindaichi, especially since he “just so happened” to find taiki (who we know is hikaru’s son) and make him into the next lalalie star… given he seemed a bit sad when mentioning hikaru to akane it feels like he could have had a specific motive to make taiki into a star (if he knew that is)

  • @altersenkai4354
    @altersenkai4354 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I may sound dumb but I'm actually glad Aqua went back on his path for revenge when a character turns dark there's always this moment where someone or something brings them back but Aqua is deadset on killing "that person" even if he goes to hell for his actions.
    Shows how much he loved Ai and wants the man who killed her dead.
    This manga really made me dive deeper and deeper in the rabbit hole because now I too want Hikaru dead.

  • @lunagrace2872
    @lunagrace2872 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    The most recent chapter should Akane with white starry eyes and now I’m concerned for her safety because she will probably be the next target. We already had a heart attack last arch with her possibly dying but now we have to worry about the father coming after her. Ugh 😩

    • @stellarmelody2784
      @stellarmelody2784 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      But the thing is its his son girlfriend either his son truly love his girlfriend or use it as to lure his dad either way this is crazy

    • @lunagrace2872
      @lunagrace2872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stellarmelody2784 Yea, either way is going to be crazy. It weird to say but I hope she gets screwed over by someone so she has black starry eyes for a bit so she won’t be a target.

    • @yohanedescends4683
      @yohanedescends4683 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      he already targeted her. he came to her award show (she thought it was aqua because of their similar looks) and gave her white flowers (the same ones ai got before she was killed).

    • @lunagrace2872
      @lunagrace2872 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yohanedescends4683 Wait really! I didn’t notice that, do you what chapter that it happened?

    • @yohanedescends4683
      @yohanedescends4683 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lunagrace2872 chapter 96

  • @noname-lb3sg
    @noname-lb3sg ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Mamoru miyano will be the best choice to voice him

  • @WalkInMyPawsteps
    @WalkInMyPawsteps ปีที่แล้ว +40

    8:00 I definitely think it's intentional that they had one white star! Especially with the way it's framed for Ruby, it's the direct center of the panel, the focus is directly on it. I can't imagine it as a mistake, and I don't think it's a coincidence that this half black half white combo only noticably shows up when the twins are being altruistic towards someone they care about. Ai and the twins were originally altruists themselves, Ai for her fans and the twins for Ai. When they stop becoming motivated by their love, their eyes change.

  • @badrulaminamin4691
    @badrulaminamin4691 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    "What does the father want"
    Father: i want her DEAD!

  • @jordan9503
    @jordan9503 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    please do some more oshi no ko theory videos !! your the only good content channel doing long form serious research videos on this series and it deserves it ! I am so deep down the oshi no ko rabbit hole I need more discussion.

  • @Enjun38
    @Enjun38 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Eager for more Oshi no Ko theories for the next few years!!!

  • @alexandragabitto2573
    @alexandragabitto2573 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I really love this theory just because it would be absolutely bonkers to find out that Ai really did have a lot of secrets that not even the people closest to her knew about. Was she the abused and the abuser due to her own problems within the industry?
    I’m also wondering if Aqua=Tsukuyomi and Ruby=Amaterasu, then who is Susanoo? I want to say it’s Kana because her full name basically means “strong horse” which could be an allusion to the horse Susanoo rides…but it’s just a theory. It would fit right in with the themes in the series about how celebrities are overworked (work horse, get it lol) etc though. Even the OP has a scene where it’s hinted at that Kana is the third deity.
    Ai (EDIT: Sarina too) herself seems to be an allusion to Princess Kaguya as Gorou means “the fifth son” and in the myth she’s pursued by five suitors. Very interesting stuff!

    • @RubyAPBT
      @RubyAPBT ปีที่แล้ว

      Could it be the third half brother?

    • @alficammy6159
      @alficammy6159 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RubyAPBT yeah I think it was Taiki too

  • @DawnTheNemo
    @DawnTheNemo ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I do agree that Toshirou is suspicious! I might be wrong because I haven't re-read completely in a while, but looking back to some pages, it felt perfectly placed so he could talk little to nothing about Kamiki - but it also grants a reason to why he would keep quiet about Kamiki's existence towards Aqua, I think?
    The fact that he raised Himekawa, as an actor (and perhaps a little alike to what Aqua and the Director's relationship is) could influence a lot on him not telling directly anything about Kamiki. Himekawa was five, but he's pretty much aware he "disliked his father" (who probably murdered his mother) and stuck to the artistic name of Himekawa, from his mother. Kamiki, at the time of spilling the info or at least pulling some strings on the incident of Airi Himekawa's death, was probably 16, yes? Ai was already pregnant by that time and they'd already taken their distance. At that very same year, Kamiki had just retired from the company.
    Perhaps Toshirou knew something was weird. Because after all, Kamiki was abused a year after his entrance at the company… like some people have said, he was a newie. Whether Airi Himekawa's personality was weird like that to use her status there to take advantage of the rookies in general, or wether this was a one time situation, having Toshirou who - as a founding member - was working close to the members, could end up realizing something weird happened. He probably acted as if it was nothing, and thus cornering himself when Kamiki finally moves things around and causes the tragedy of Himekawa's parents suicide. He probably deducted it had something to do with him or at least suspected a little when Kamiki retired from acting, but kept moving on and maybe even took Himekawa under his wing, since he could've felt guilty. Now that he's attached to him, I'd assume he wouldn't want to explain him how he could've been a child born out of infidelity and abuse, whose biological parent may or may not had something to do with his parents suicide. (Like, his "father" is a murderer already, his mother is also scum… give him a break.)
    Turning a blind eye to Aqua's looks makes sense, way much more since their conversation was the 3 together. Also… If a remember correctly he gave a whole speech about how he "liked people who felt broken" and knew about "people who only acted imitating, as if they could feel nothing themselves". But in the end, the desire of (something-something) emotions was "the real deal". He could've had his eye set on Hikaru for the same reasons, perhaps? Idk.
    Edit: I re-read a little more, and Kamiki was probably older when Himekawa's parents died, since the "suicide incident" happened the same year she was having talks about performing in the dome (since Kamiki was 15 and Ai 16 when Ai was already pregnant, if Ai was 19 years old at the time, Kamiki probably was 17 for incoming reasons I'll dig deeper on this). So it was about two years after Kamiki left the company - but I'd argue saying began moving in this as soon as he retired. Himekawa was probably born when Kamiki was already 12, and Himekawa was 5 when his parents died. I'd say begging a plan at 16 - when you've left the company, it having a strike when he's 17 and soon enough after you've finally made your first tragedy happen. Anyways, I don't think waiting had much relevance to Kamiki and it's just how things turned out, since he himself went along Ai's murderer in their first visit to the hospital. Probably Goro's death drove them away? I've been searching so much my brain hurts, save me.

  • @thepublicpotato3887
    @thepublicpotato3887 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    If Hikaru color is actually made of crow feathers than it make sense as Crow are a symbol of death, darkness and tragedy

  • @awesomeguy6928
    @awesomeguy6928 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I can’t lie Hikaru is such an interesting villain

  • @rinne9540
    @rinne9540 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    To be honest, I feel like Kindaichi is the one who raised Hikaru. The comment he made about liking actors being "a little bit broken" was really creepy, and slightly out of nowhere. There's a good chance that Kindaichi may be helping Hikaru with setting up the killings, or setting up actors for success just so Hikaru can continue killing them.

  • @UltimateEmoDetective1
    @UltimateEmoDetective1 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    HEH?! HOW HAVE I NEVER NOTICED THE BLACK STAR EYE THING?!?!?

  • @MichaelVII_
    @MichaelVII_ ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I find the name "Lalalie" kinda funny given that the manga is about lies and it's odd because it makes me think some REAL dark shit is going on in that company that we don't know about yet.

    • @SylvanesW
      @SylvanesW  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There's definitely some wild stuff happening behind the scenes in Lalalie. We already know about Kamiki, Airi and Ai and how their "issues" happened during their time in Lalalie. Also, Kindaichi, one of the founders, gets more suspicious every time he's on the page.

    • @alficammy6159
      @alficammy6159 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SylvanesW yeah director kindaichi is really as suspicious character when he was introduced imo plus his explanation about the star eyes or deceptive eyes he call it in chapter 96 make him really suspicious considering it barely being mentioned since early of the chapter

  • @pebble8978
    @pebble8978 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Woahhhhh I suddenly remembered Chapter 03 wherein Ruby said she's the embodiment of Amaterasu/a God, to scare the president's wife. So that wasn't just for that! 🤯

  • @PixelHachi
    @PixelHachi ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh hey! You're the guy with the Gotoubun manga analysis. Glad to see you covering this manga too! Just watched the first ep and man I'm in for a ride!

  • @_erek24_
    @_erek24_ ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I still quite don’t get this part where you explained the reason why Hikaru needed Himekawa and Hoshino’s. Other than that, good theory. I really enjoyed it.

    • @SylvanesW
      @SylvanesW  ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Thank you.
      Oh, I didn't mean Hikaru needed them specifically; I just pointed out a pattern in his actions. Like how Airi and Ai's cases were very similar.
      Both had a close relationship with Hikaru > Both got pregnant > Both got killed by a proxy manipulated by Hikaru > And I assume both had starry eyes. All of their children are also alive.
      Given that Hikaru's latest victim is an actress with starry eyes, I assumed that's what he targets. People with starry eyes, or rather women with starry eyes.

  • @elevenscoobert6794
    @elevenscoobert6794 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I can't help but feel that Hikaru is merely another red herring. The more I read more I feel like there is too much pulling out to having him as a suspect. But at the same time there is no real confirmation that it was Hikaru or that Hikaru was the only third party that knew about Ai. It feels way too obvious to be true. There is also the fact the main story only started around chapter 80, which makes me think ghere is still a long road to go. I don't think Aqua's current plan is going to succeed.

  • @TrulySPosts
    @TrulySPosts ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I think this theory actually makes sense it would also make the Ruby acting as Amaterasu in the early chapters

  • @bennieboi3683
    @bennieboi3683 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Damn man, your theory seems to be very believable (tho I don't dig the supernatural gods thing since it would be a very cheap excuse for a villain). Now I am so afraid for my girl Akane😢

  • @李tsu
    @李tsu ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m not liking aquas ominous line that goes something like “I planned it this was so ruby could keep loving this world without me” I don’t remember the exact line but it makes me think aquas plan will lead to his own demise somehow.

    • @nurlindafsihotang49
      @nurlindafsihotang49 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well, he did died 2x. Once as goro, once in front of Ai, dying.

  • @mayunksharma4881
    @mayunksharma4881 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    May be Hikaru is also in search of the person which cause of Ai's murder (because he's father, there's no confirmation that the father is the real cause of Ai's death)
    what if Hikaru is murdering the other people to get the information for Ai's murder

    • @thatnohrianscum6475
      @thatnohrianscum6475 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds interesting but the stalker was holding the white flowers before he murdered Ai. I think the father is connected to the death.

  • @eshumty5966
    @eshumty5966 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love your indepth explanation. Thanks and please keep this up! I love this manga series! 🎉

  • @dragonballMS
    @dragonballMS ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Spoilers!!!!!!
    Currently in the manga, both Aqua and Ruby have black stars in both eyes and i have a theory on how they both will come to the light side again.
    Ruby got her black stars when she realised that the doctor is dead and is killed by the same person as Ai. So i think she will gain her white stars back after she finds out that Aqua is the doctor.
    Same for Aqua, he was so obsessed with Ai partly because he wanted to watch over her as he couldn't do the same for Sarina. So realising that her little sister is that same Sarina living her dream of becoming an idol is more than enough to bring him back to the light side.

    • @deanmalto
      @deanmalto ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Such a beautiful theory, Aqua didn't have to sacrifice himself by doing something extreme because he still have something live for

  • @srisitpradidwach2136
    @srisitpradidwach2136 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    literally hikaru nakamura if he found passion in killing instead of chess, bro literally premoves kills

  • @lightzofficial
    @lightzofficial ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I NEED MORE VIDS FROM U BRO , SO UNDERRATED

  • @yi_hou3092
    @yi_hou3092 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Honestly not a fan of the religious connotation to why the White Stars and Black Stars Exist
    I still accept the Idea that the White Stars represent Optimism and Hope along with Determination
    Black Stars representing Malice, Anger, Hate etc
    And the motive of Hikaru feels not only sociopathic but also unchecked mental trauma which was made from a very corrupt and cut throat industry

  • @crunchy303
    @crunchy303 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Hey man, I really enjoyed your theory
    Btw I have a question, What role does the "Crow deity" play into all this? Personally I think that the crow deity and Tsukiyomi are the same and Hikaru might be something like her bidder that's why he kills potential Amaterasu women. Hope you get what I mean to ask

    • @SylvanesW
      @SylvanesW  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thank you. I have actually talked in detail about the Crow Deity in my first theory video. You can check the time stamps of that video and jump straight to that part if you want, but long story short:
      If we assume Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi are both part of the story, then I think the Crow Deity serves Amaterasu and works against Tsukuyomi. Based on the legend of these deities, the crow (heavily implied to be Yatagarasu), was a guide sent by Amaterasu to aid the first emperor of Japan.
      In Oshi no Ko, the Crow Deity guides Ruby on the path to find Goro's body and also uncover the truth about Ai's death. So, I think the Crow Deity was there to help Ruby discover the truth about Ai's death. If the deity makes another appearance, then I assume it would be to help Ruby again.

    • @crunchy303
      @crunchy303 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SylvanesW ok....
      I thought that the crow deity was associated with Hikaru in some way that's why I thought that she was evil but i was wrong.
      Anyways thanks for your explanation buddy
      And I'll check out your other video as well. Keep up the good work 💪

  • @saroojanvasanthakumar1510
    @saroojanvasanthakumar1510 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Still insane that you predicted so much of the plot

  • @SoukoSama-vt2tw
    @SoukoSama-vt2tw ปีที่แล้ว +71

    From my thinking I'd imagine how Ai and other woman fell in love and let hikaru make them pregnant 💀 .... There are not many possibilities but some left are the most Awe dropping ones

    • @bilalafzal7442
      @bilalafzal7442 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      or Himekawa took advantage of him, assaulted him and that why he resents women like her, as female paedophiles tend to be more hands on than their male counterpart.

    • @alexandraguardian9840
      @alexandraguardian9840 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@bilalafzal7442 In any case, Ai is innocent and I want Hikaru dead for leaving her beloved children orphans.

    • @stellarmelody2784
      @stellarmelody2784 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@alexandraguardian9840 at the same time that is what his aiming a dark ambition this man is smart playing with his own kid to find to themself who their dad and want them to took dark turn and hire a stalker to kill his wife and who know maybe aqua finaly got the truth

    • @jashandeepsingh2239
      @jashandeepsingh2239 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I don't think Ai genuinely Loved Hikaru since she even after getting pregnant still says she wants to say I love you and mean it and she was only Genuinely Happy and Genuinely loved someone when she gave birth to her Children and the ones she loved were her Children and the first ones she ever truly Said "I love you" to was her Children when she was Dying and Speaking to her Children I personally think The Reason Ai got Pregnant was because Hikaru told her he Could Achieve her Dream of wanting to Truly Love someone by Getting her Pregnant and she agreed because she wanted to love someone and be loved and that's why he decided to plan everything maybe he even made sure that 2 Fans of Ai were Reincarnated as Her Babies and them after a while he made her die to make AI tell her Children she Loved them and after he Achieved her Goal and saw how his children reacted and what decision they decided to make he achieved one of his Goals and just let them Blossom and do what they want

  • @deadsoon
    @deadsoon ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think he wanted revenge on the women that ruined his career, which then morphed into killing women with drive to be successful in the industry.
    Thinking from the pov of a child that's been groomed and taken advantage of, I suppose having a child through an adult woman, someone that had more power and authority over him, was rather traumatic. Then, Ai also having a child of his and going ahead with the pregnancy, could be a reminder of the lack of consent he suffered when his first child was conceived. The existence of those children might've taken away his joy for acting all together. Thus, he decided to take revenge on the women that ruined it- and he ended up liking it. Taking away the light in their eyes the same way his dreams were.
    I might be completely wrong and maybe he was bad from the start, but I just feel icky at the prospect of an 11 y/o being a masterplan psycopath that got his teacher pregnant for supernatural shenanigans. Although at this point, who knows...
    Also, would you say that Taiki could symbolize Susanoo-no-Mikoto? The way he behaves reminds me of the way that deity is often described. And he's the third sibling in the mythos as well.
    Great video!

  • @thepublicpotato3887
    @thepublicpotato3887 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So this is what Johan been up to all this time

  • @cosmicrays575
    @cosmicrays575 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like it'll be a bit redundant to go after akane, he tried to kill akane before on the staircase (right now only speculation). And from a writing perspective that's the obvious bait.
    Kana is written in a way, since the beginning of the story, to be this brilliant actress but she hasn't gotten the opportunity to shine on a grand stage, keeping her away from hikaru's sight and seemingly preference. She's basically been coasting under the radar for the entire series in the entertainment industry. Sure the idol stuff has been successful but it isn't on the level as when Ai was the lead. You factor in that kana is personally connected to both aqua and ruby on a deep personally level. If their dad wants to personally get back at them, because of the movie, that's an added bonus to make them suffer. Plus aqua has, clumsy, tried to protect kana for about half the series, if you take his past trauma of him not protecting/saving Ai and something happens to kana, it's going to get ugly.
    And finally the color white symbolism. Kana's glow stick is white and it's considered "special" in idol culture. I believe on two occasions we seen white roses in the series. The first is with Ai's death scene and the second was at akane's event, clearly these white roses are his calling card for his next victim. The color white and white roses are symbolic of purity (among other things), in my opinion I believe the white glow stick and white roses are narratively connected. And if you look at the latest volume cover ( vol 11) it's Kana with a rose like dress with white gloves and there's a promotional art (official art) with kana holding a flower to her face, I'm not saying that means anything but man.
    There's something that draws their father to highly popular (with star eyes) female actress in the industry, if he sees this movie and he sees kana's multi-star eyes, which also extends out from body, that makes her radiates like the sun, which akane has directly stated, and she finally starts to garner more success and attention I believe Kana might be his next victim.
    Personally for me there's too much subtext and stuff shown in our face over the course of the series that I can't think of anyone other her.

    • @-PassionFruit-
      @-PassionFruit- ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad i'm not the only one who think this

  • @ishashifar
    @ishashifar ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The interesting thing about kamiki hikaru is he hardly ever seems to actually physically hurt someone, he rather manipulates people into situations where they cause it themselves. He told the stalker of Ai's information so he would kill ai and gorou, he might've manipulated taiki's mother and her husband to do a double suicide, and that latest actress he probably didn't push her off the edge rather he led her to a dangerous part of a cliff and didn't do anything when she slipped and fell.
    I also believe the theory that kamiki was SA'd, because oshinoko tackles a lot of real life stuff that happens in the entertainment industry and child stars being assaulted by older stars or other people involved in the industry isn't anything new. We already saw that case with Melt who was implied to have been abused by an older women but considering taiki himekawa's age it's highly likely kamiki was either 9 or 10 years old when he first become a star, so he could've been a literal child who was raped.
    And irl a lot of childstars who experience those type of situations grow up and become really controversial and messed up adults some becoming abusive to their significant others, others drug abusing and others violating the law or some just become messed up in the head.
    Maybe that's what happened to kamiki he was abused by an older woman so that warped his mind to think the way he does
    There's also my theory about him and Ai.
    Hikaru was probably someone like Ai who did not have any understanding of love.
    And rather had his own twisted version of love, he doesn't love Ai neither does he love Aqua and Ruby but he does keep tabs on Aqua and Ruby for unknown reasons.

  • @Merpati_.
    @Merpati_. ปีที่แล้ว +42

    hikaru kamiki is pure evil, terrifying and horrible person.but in same time,he looks so baddas.

    • @Merpati_.
      @Merpati_. ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @No, that's wrong. 💀

    • @shayn_3
      @shayn_3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @No, that's wrong. nah jokes supposed to be funny

  • @yokochita
    @yokochita ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i have a theory that actually hikaru is not much involved in death ah he loved her but one time she said it was because of the ?future? work as an idol, she will not be able to date him. especially with the fact that hikaru is younger than ai. in fact, hikaru was upset that they weren't dating, but he let her go. about the murders of famous women, I think it's some kind of revenge.and hikaru is the reincarnation of a used child, and he was reborn to avenge his suffering. perhaps something important in life was taken away from him, for example, a family ??because an ordinary child could not conceive a child with a married woman, at 11 years old.. I think this is quite logical. before implying ai to leave hikaru's life, she said that it might be pregnant by him. Hikaru's parents found out about this, and thought it would be best to get rid of ai, because if anyone found out that the child was Hikaru's, they might be imprisoned in the future. let's imagine that hikaru grew up in an important company that could often be associated with murders. and hikaru's parents decide to insult ai online because if ai doesn't become an idol, her death will not be so important to others. but they failed to do so. they hired a high school student to kill ai. next that student kills ah, ie and Hikaru feels guilty for the fact that his beloved died for his sake, but continues to avenge his past unreceived life. he comes to ah's grave, and brings her a bouquet of flowers.(it turned out like a clipping from a fanfic, but oh well ..)

  • @soc7967
    @soc7967 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hitting that Kizumonogatari mystery ost HARD

  • @danerlansen4896
    @danerlansen4896 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very good vid man thanks

  • @Sigma_Looksmaxxer
    @Sigma_Looksmaxxer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Stars" establish their "presence" with their "identity" and have a certain "gravity" that attracts people towards them. But sometimes that certain "gravity" crushes them from inside out, they become a "Black Hole", a thing that doesn't have any identity but they can distort the very space time with their very presence. It consumes other stars to "feel its own weight". If Ai, Ruby and Aqua are "stars" then Hikaru is a damn "Black Hole". He has no notable presence or screentime in the story but whatever he does or says has a big impact on each of our main characters' life. If Aqua and Ruby are sides of same coin known as Ai, then Hikaru owns the whole mint. But "Black Holes" have weakness called "Hawking Radiation", where more mass a "Black Hole" consumes, more of its lifetimes it loses. My guess is Hikaru also used to be "Star" in childhood like Arima Kana but got "crushed" by his own "gravity" as it attracted Airi Himekawa towards him.
    Spoilers: In chapter 138, it's revealed that he is the one who is sponsoring the whole project about Ai's autobiography "15 year old lie" and his new target may be Masaya Kaburagi, the producer of the film, Frill Shiranui, actress playing Airi Himekawa, or Taiki Himekawa, his other son with Airi, who is playing as Senjuro Uehara, Airi's legal husband.

  • @chrollo1867
    @chrollo1867 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great analysis, i also had the same thought about the black starry eyes

  • @mpattadon
    @mpattadon ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Coincidental thing is that Aira is Ai and Yura’s names combined lol

  • @megalosauru
    @megalosauru ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I feel like Hikaru Kamiki will be proven to be a true hate sink. Even more so if he also happens to be someone who reincarnated.
    He is evil from birth and enjoys the power of playing God by showering someone else with happiness before gleefully arranging to have that happiness taken away from them. If Ai was someone who did not know love but wanted to love in the purest sense, HK might be someone who knew love, but wanted no part of it unless it provides him a way to satisfy his sadistic tendencies.

  • @moononthewindynight27
    @moononthewindynight27 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    About Aqua looking like Hikaru and nobody noticing...
    A lot of people say he looks quite similar to Ai. Maybe that's just what they see first and go with it?

    • @SylvanesW
      @SylvanesW  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought about this before...but I noticed that most people only say that Aqua's face resembles Ai's.
      While we can see that Hikaru and Aqua have almost the same appearances. People who have worked with both Hikaru and Aqua should theoretically notice that resemblance first. Idk. Seems odd xD

    • @thatnohrianscum6475
      @thatnohrianscum6475 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SylvanesW Ye its odd since Akane instantly thought that Hikaru reminded her of Aqua. Others should think the same way.

  • @davidsamv1664
    @davidsamv1664 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Man, oshi no ko really gets more interesting with each chapter. What do you think of Ai in the latest chapter?
    Btw, you got the cast for the movie right xD really spot on.

    • @SylvanesW
      @SylvanesW  ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Hmm, Ai lied every time she appeared on the page, so it's not a surprise that she has a true hidden self. But what kind of real self is the question, now that we know she also had black starry eyes - which I'm fairly certain she got after meeting Hikaru.
      Although I don't think she's in the same boat as him. She's definitely got a darker side - which should've come from the fact that she was an orphan, but I don't think she had that murderous intent. I would say she has done some less-than-ethical things to achieve her goals but nothing too outrageous.
      We'll see though xD

  • @512lilirose
    @512lilirose ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So you mean to tell me that if Aqua finds out his dad doesn't act anymore ,were does his road go again?

  • @Ra-fh4zx
    @Ra-fh4zx ปีที่แล้ว +5

    oshi no ko + Death Note OST = Masterpiece

  • @ItsShaz1
    @ItsShaz1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Interesting theory!

  • @mop330
    @mop330 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like your videos helps me get a grasp of the story and view it from a lenses i wouldn't on my own

  • @PhantomTyphoon
    @PhantomTyphoon ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He better not kill akane

  • @Kururin7x
    @Kururin7x ปีที่แล้ว +8

    it’s probably because airi did it with him forcefully which caused him to hate women and also lose his will to live but when he met ai he found a new obsession to manipulate women and end their life when they see them have the eyes he had when he was young. this then led to him killing them which in a way that by killing them, his life would finally feel like it has its meaning again

    • @Kururin7x
      @Kururin7x ปีที่แล้ว +2

      either this or his encounter with airi caused him to have an obsession to cause misery to the lives of other idols who had a bright passion that their eyes glowed like airi, ai etc and killing them is what keeps him alive and also to quite possibly have aqua be much more determined in finding him

    • @JayceCH.
      @JayceCH. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kururin7x Quite likely that Ai was impregnated by Kamiki to make her despair in the first place and when Ai didnt "lose her shine", he finally decided to kill.

  • @jashandeepsingh2239
    @jashandeepsingh2239 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hmm I just Heard about people talking about Ruby or her past Self Saying something about Amaratsu so maybe that's the reason Hikaru and that Girl Who knows about Reincarnation is Interested are Interested in Ruby and why when she was shown with Black Eyes Black Feathers Surrounded her

  • @Al3naa
    @Al3naa ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I realized Ai+Yura=Aira

  • @jjlim3768
    @jjlim3768 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Who knew the author of wholesome Love is war could write some like this too.
    Its awesome

  • @opredniends1940
    @opredniends1940 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    at this rate he could be some kind of banished deity

  • @enanebres6481
    @enanebres6481 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this content

  • @yatie945
    @yatie945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nah man people could see that aqua and ai had the same face even though only the starry eye is the only one that is the same but couldn't see how much a twin hikaru and aqua is like what-

    • @anvitamohan7939
      @anvitamohan7939 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hikaru wears the Clark Kent glasses

  • @mathewalbuquerque9587
    @mathewalbuquerque9587 ปีที่แล้ว

    please make another video 😭

  • @RekEStore32
    @RekEStore32 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It does seems on the surface that Hikaru Kamki is a messed up SOB who kills women similar to his molester out of a need of unfulfilled revenge. But that supernatural twist is VERY interesting. Amaterasu (Goddess of the Sun) does Tsukuyomi (The Moon) do have a connection with eyes, and their conflict would be an excellent explanation!

  • @gachadan8016
    @gachadan8016 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    is it just me or does he look like LN accelerator

  • @ayanokojikiyotaka5750
    @ayanokojikiyotaka5750 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Couldn't it be that Himekawa instilled the idea of Hikaru being "worthless" when he was 11yo, and now kills popular people to feel his "life's weight" as implied in Ch109, just a wild theory, but I suppose Hikaru is doing all this to feel significant or something of the like, since he thinks of himself as worthless.

  • @justarandomhuman5479
    @justarandomhuman5479 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just noticed something that Aira has "ai" and "ra" in her name and ai has "ai" in her name like Aira and yura also "ra" in her name like Aira I think one of the future victim will surely have ai, ir, ra or yu in their name on the amounts of serial killer documentaries watched and how many book analytics I have done I have observed that serial killers often like to connect their victim by name and authors also like to do the same thing they also hides hints in their characters names

  • @gabrielclark1425
    @gabrielclark1425 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Plot Twist: He's innocent, and Aqua has become a psychotic stalker like the person who murdered his mom.

    • @MISSWHAT-lp5om
      @MISSWHAT-lp5om ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This plot twist means that aqua was always the main villian😂

  • @TNPhan
    @TNPhan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing nobody mentions that I think could relate to the supernatural plot is the line “Ah, I took your precious life. My life, I can feel its weight now” in ch109
    Could it be some sort of ritual of him? Then the plot of reincarnation can be used, he definitely knows/ understand about supernatural things if that is the case

  • @aria8256
    @aria8256 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Didn't Hikaru also kill Aqua's previous life doctor-self? The doctor was pushed by a mysterious hooded figure who pushed him down the mountain. If that is true, then perhaps that's the first time Hikaru actually directly killed somebody (which is separate from his usual pattern). Besides, we don't know if the doctor had just awakened the starry eyes at that point (since he was passionate about protecting his beloved idol Ai, and helping her give birth safely) and Hikaru just decided to kill him on-the-spot. That would make the doctor (Aqua's previous life self) Hikaru's first male victim.
    While from the doctor's POV, the sudden starry eyes might not be visible, perhaps if we get to see Hikaru's POV, things might seem different.
    The reason I suspect that mysterious figure to be Hikaru, is because Ai's pregnancy did not leak after the doctor's death. After all, why wouldn't the mysterious figure leak the news? What difference would it make?

    • @ayanokojikiyotaka5750
      @ayanokojikiyotaka5750 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was confirmed by the deity that the person who killed the doctor was the same stalker, so nope, the doctor would be Hikaru's first indirect victim assuming he hadn't killed anyone beforehand

    • @ayanokojikiyotaka5750
      @ayanokojikiyotaka5750 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And the stalker was forced to kill the doc since he followed him all the way to the mountains

    • @aria8256
      @aria8256 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ayanokojikiyotaka5750 Thank you for the clarification. I haven't read that far yet.

    • @ayanokojikiyotaka5750
      @ayanokojikiyotaka5750 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aria8256 Makes sense, sry for the spoiler then😅

    • @aria8256
      @aria8256 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ayanokojikiyotaka5750 Nah, it's fine 👍🏻

  • @holeeshi9959
    @holeeshi9959 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    worth nothing "Hikaru" means light, the guy with shadow eyes is named "light", which might have something significant there.....

  • @yourashi9082
    @yourashi9082 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if aqua would be "touched/blessed" by tsukuyomi since he had black eyes from the start

  • @gamerstorm9822
    @gamerstorm9822 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Ai reincarnated as the crow and she finally has freedom

  • @SaberEnvy
    @SaberEnvy ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The killing was the dad? I just thought aqua started killing.

  • @Rkanegaming-e
    @Rkanegaming-e ปีที่แล้ว +5

    all hints to Akane's death

    • @KhanhNguyen-mh5ec
      @KhanhNguyen-mh5ec ปีที่แล้ว

      My poor baking soda licking child!

    • @Lilyium
      @Lilyium ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Khanh Nguyen isn't that Kana Arima? Akane is the 2nd FL.

  • @leronelcock5765
    @leronelcock5765 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hikaru is going to be interesting

  • @VendettaProduction01
    @VendettaProduction01 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought the guy in the graveyard was the exmanager. I thought that was when Ruby ran into him.

  • @ChimeraLotietheBunny
    @ChimeraLotietheBunny ปีที่แล้ว +21

    NGL this is my greatest hype for such a series of a REVENGE manga story mix with idol etc.
    its mix realism and reincarnation and all the chracers to booth
    I had hope that Aqua and Ruby does prevent their love ones or themselves being targeted ever again!!!

  • @ElleEd-wt8bh
    @ElleEd-wt8bh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that Hikaru wanted revenge on Airi after all she did to him so he plotted to kill her by telling her husband the truth about his wife and that he isn’t the biological father to his son. This made him so angry that he killed his wife and then committed suicide. After that incident, I think it lit a spark in Hikaru since he probably found joy in Airi’s painful death which caused him to become a serial killer to experience that same joy he felt when Airi died.

  • @septiandwikurniawan3877
    @septiandwikurniawan3877 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kamiki is jenius like Moriarty

  • @SoraiaLMotta
    @SoraiaLMotta ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thanks

  • @jordan9503
    @jordan9503 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm still very curious ast why ai went thru soo much trouble to keep the fathers identity a secret hell she used a pay phone to contact him .

    • @ishashifar
      @ishashifar ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think its because they're breakup was a mutual understanding some of Ai's dialogue during their conversation seems to suggest that they didn't breakup on bad terms. Just that he didn't want anything to do with the kids, and she didn't protest until she thought ruby and aqua might need their father.

  • @wytchhunter8959
    @wytchhunter8959 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In regards to Hikaru potentially being reincarnated before. What if he is trying to figure out the secrets to reincarnation by killing people. Maybe he thinks that if he does, he can control it and essentially be immortal, maybe even choose who’s child he gets reincarnated into