Peter Boghossian lays bare glaring fault in 'inclusive conversations' - 'That's not what it means!'
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- ‘Diversity means intellectual homogeneity.’
Founding Faculty Fellow at the University of Austin, Peter Boghossian, explains how people do not understand the nuance of the language used around woke culture.
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'Anti racism' - when you hate racism so much, you fight racism with racism
So accurate lol
Same with their anti-fascist movement, pretending they're not the only fascists in town.
They're hypocrites fundamentally, What they say and how they act are completely at odds with each other because they start at the end result they want and then do whatever it takes, which (surprise) involves deceiving the people they're trying to do it to
Nicely stated! Let's hope the masses wake up to woke.
It doesn't work like that. This is what the big money from finance wants and so it's what you are going to get. Nothing changes until the elites change.....and for that you need a split in the elites.
As an American who used to live in England, I personally love this set. I know some people think it is a little strange, but to me it seems so very English.
All those cozy, rainy evenings sitting around the pub chatting with friends and seeing people from the neighborhood. Now I miss England!
I love the set too! A bit eccentric, very English.
I went on a fly fishing trip to England, Scotland and Ireland about a decade ago and I only stayed in those old pubs when I could. Then sadly I just saw a few months back that some of the ones I had stayed in had been taken over by the local governments to house illegals and have been completely trashed/destroyed. It's seriously sad seeing that culture be destroyed by anyone, let alone illegals who don't have the permission to have came there and should be thankful and appreciate the people who took them in. But no, they're just takers and destroyers. I wish I could remember the names of the places to link you the before and after pics and video I saw. Places that make this mock pub look sparse and garbage. Some of these places world leaders and dignitaries had stayed at and had signatures of their portraits and such all over and now destroyed. And what many don't know is some ppl actually live in those places for long periods of time. And many lost their homes so to speak that they had been in for decades in some cases to make room for ungrateful illegals.
English born and bred. Not sure if I’ve ever seen nuns sitting drinking in pubs!
The Cats !!
Hehe
Solving discrimination with more discrimination
As Bill Maher eloquently put it, "They don't want to fight racism, they want racism to fight."
"Anti-racism" means, anti-White.
It means anti-white-Supremacy. "When people are accustomed to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination" - Thomas Sowell.
Yes, and the strange insistence that if your white in a white majority country, you should feel shame 😂
But, what does "White Supremacy" mean? Bearing in mind that you'll be using electricity, a computer and English in attempting to cobble together and explanation.@@MichaelJames-lz7ni
@@Scotty-P Do you think, because white people made the majority of recent technical or scientific accomplishments that they, somehow, are a superior race? They're not -historically, Muslim States used to be the center of Academic and mathematical advancement. You'd be surprised to know that non-whites, and women, were LEGALLY FORBIDDEN to seek higher education or pursue Academic achievement due to the fact that white men considered them "lesser beings" that wouldn't respond to higher education. We have no idea what women and minorities could have achieved in science and technology prior to the Civil Rights era. I'd take one Neil Degrasse Tyson over one-hundred of "you".
@@MichaelJames-lz7nithat is quite clearly not true unless you define white supremacy to cover everything white.
Haha John Cleese is so awesome! He’s playing the role of an interested uncle excellently. Also I love his choice of set lol nuns, gents in bowler hats and cats all randomly knocking about the place.
It's great 😊
I would love to see John Cleese try Boghossian's street epistemology!
AND set it up so that he changes lines a bunch of times and goose steps it like in Fawlty Towers (Germans) or something from Ministry of Silly Walks.
That is actually a great idea.
Equity is impossible. I am not equal to myself on different days. Any attempt at equity will drive us to the lowest common denominator.
Trying to enforce equity results in fascism imo.
@@benfisher1376 in a colloquial sense of the word, yes. Highly authoritarian and would need to control the actions of literally everyone in society.
I've read that Kendi has been discredited for mishandling millions donated for his institution.
What's this, a person or institution that propagates itself on inoffensive words for racial justice, masking something far more insidious has mismanaged money for personal gain? Next you'll be telling me that BLM organisers have been buying mansions for their relatives with their donations.
Just like BLM.
It shows it's not about social or racial justice. It's about money.
But they hide their true motives like all grifters.
I learned that it was recently revealed Gloria Steinem was a CIA asset, like so many others in mainstream culture. Of course, that was 50 years ago and the spooks would not manipulate Americans like that today.
In other words . . . revenge.
Brilliant discussion between John Cleese and Peter Boghossian. Great episode. Thank you!
Peter is the shit! I loved all the cats chilling.
This show is a must watch, brilliant stuff John..
I really love the format with cats and people all around.
I hate the words and I didn't vote for any of the words.
Great timing, Charlie.
A truly equitable archery club would function as follows. Instead of traditional physical targets at which you launched your arrows and received honest feedback from reality as to your current level of skill in terms of whether you hit the bulleye or outer rings- feedback which would enable you to develop your skill- in this new progessive scenario you would be presented with a very large unmarked wall at which you shot your arrow and wherever it landed someone would then paint a target around it with your arrow a veritable bullseye. Everyone would go home a winner.
Almost. When the black man fires, a target is painted around its landing spot. When the white man fires, a target is painted elsewhere. That’s true equity.
This explains a lot. "Diversity, Equity and Inclusion" is the policy in so many US universities now. I know of a case where a white man with a doctorate is turned down for an appointment in favor of a black woman, even though he has a doctorate, years of teaching experience, decades' worth publications, and she has none of those. A technical university in Australia announced recently that their hiring was not kn the basis of merit, rather on race, etc., because they wanted the school "to have a certain look."
I love Peter! Great to see him on this channel
I loved this. I had to keep stopping in order to write notes. This is a classroom for me. It also helps me to feel like I'm not alone in my thoughts. I appreciate you Peter.
The dishonesty of our current overlords’ language is staggering.
What a lovely setting to have an intellectual conversation in. Unique in its Britishness.
Peter was great to listen to.
Woke = Critical Consciousness. Critical consciousness is the core of Social Justice teaching as it is understood within the Critical Theories. It is a heightened awareness of the world and the power structures that shape it. Being Woke means viewing society exclusively through the critical lenses which sees the world only in terms of unjust power dynamics (oppressed/oppressor) and the need to dismantle problematic systems as an activist. That is, it means having adopted Theory and the worldview it conceptualizes. Under “wokeness,” this awakened consciousness is set particularly with regard to issues of identity, like race, sex, gender, sexuality, and others.
The term originated in Portuguese as conscientização (look it up) from the popular post-Marxist Brazilian activist and educator Paulo Freire, usually deemed the father of critical pedagogy (that is, the application of critical theories to the theory of education). It is an evolved Hegelian/Marxian religious cult that hides as human rights, politics, science, art and culture. Look up James Lindsay's talk at the European Parliament. It is the best summation of Wokeness, its goals and the current situation the West is in. James worked with Pete and Helen on the Grievance Studies Affair. These three are heroes.
I had to check I hadn't written your post! How long do we have to keep demonstrating the emperor is naked!
New Discourses👍
Everyone needs to learn the word 'ASTROTURFING'.
Poor John seems like he's just waking up from a 10 year nap. The show is getting better.
It was appalling last week. Moaning about press intrusion of the rich and famous was not high on my list of the countries priorities.
I only gave him a second chance as he was a comedy idol of mine. This was slightly better, although what a ridiculous set they gave him, I’m don’t want equity or equality, meritocracy is the key to any societal prosperity, it’s Darwinian.
Sending this to my parents. Classic liberals (like me) but they don’t understand how much has changed in the culture (they have recently begun to tilt their heads at some events / protests)
Classical liberals is very different from classic liberals! Liberal has come to mean left wing in popular parlance because of the Americans use of the term in opposition to the term conservative.
Conservatives are liberal, but tend to be more small government and less state interventionist than Social liberals.
Very interesting conversation. I must say the set looks amazing. Love the originality
British people did not agree to a multiculturalism in our country
Define British people please. My understanding is we're a mixed bag already.
The british public also didn't vote in 1700 or 1800 to sail the high seas and conquer the world. And nobody actively voted and signed a paper to supress and torture other people. It just happened back then. Times were like that. Humans just did what everybody did in those days.
Now, today, the situation is the way it is. The multi and mixed people and cultures are here. They live in our country. Now we have to make it work. The woke "new inquisition" BS makes no sense. It doesnt help. The colonal blaming doesnt help either.
The first step is : evrybody places the common law above superstition and above religion.
Second : science is done by scientists. Biology is done by biologists, not by sociologists.
If you wish to be included, be worth including individually by bringing something of worth to the discussion, culture, productivity gain.
In the corporate world, if DEI is utilized and prioritizd, regular people sit back and watch the culture devolve and productivity drop. The daily exercise of incorporating those DEI concepts becomes the product and how you make money from that is anyone’s guess.
It's simplistic, even racist rather, to see diversity only on superficially given traits.
That's sort of the point. Modern woke ideology isn't egalitarian in the slightest. It's a religion that is dogmatic to its core that promotes retaliatory racism and sexism, promotes victimhood as a virtue and wants to see the downfall of all the cultural institutions that raised the West to wealth and prosperity.
Insightful discussion!
This is fantastic, and I like the cats :P Muhahahaha.... I like how they setup the environment to have a talk that looks natural in a natural setting etc... It is very well done... It is like taking the podcast format to a new level...
What the heck is that naughty kitten doing on that damn rug?!
In other words.... Equity is stupid.
I'm with Charlie 🤣😸
I will remember this video as some kind of fever dream! 😆
The peasants scene was my favorite part of the Holy Grail
Proud peasant descendant here 🙌
Equity really means Revenge
I can't stop watching the cats. Had to rewatch to pay attention to what was said.
Distracted by the cute cats ❤
There's a huge amount, not all, but a lot of people who have come and settled in this country that, if they truly would like to be and feel included, then you would at least learn our language. It's patently obvious that a great many people have no intention of doing so. I doubt that I'D feel included in another country if I couldn't be bothered to speak their language. But that would be rude and disrespectful to the hosting country and it's people. Regards from Hertfordshire.
I would not be able to carry on a discussion in that room, because...KITTIES!!!
Double speak, thought police. Sounds familiar...🤔
Is everyone drinking water? 😢 At least sell it with some apple juice.
Affirmative Action in the states... goes farther back than you think...
Loved how it ended with Charlie the cat coughing up a furball😹😝🙌🏽❤️ Then John making a joke about him not being able to digest all the woke Ideology😏😅
I have the same reaction as that cat...
The difference between equity and equality is similar to the difference between wages and income. It’s fair that people get the same wages for the same work, but equity is demanding the same income regardless of the hours worked, type of job etc. Everybody must have the same income regardless of anything. That is the most distilled version of Marxism you can get. For total equity (which is impossible) you have to introduce unfairness and inequality. This kills all personal inisiative for betterment, ambition and education and societies gradually will collapse. All thes buzzwords mean the opposite in practice. For inclusion you have to exclude. Forcing all kinds of equalities you introduce inequality. We are favouring external traits for competence, abilities and merit.
The nuns habits and bowler hats in the background are a nice touch.
'Colour-blind casting' is an interesting one- if it were truly colour-blind as would be ordinarily understood you might expect it to reflect the percentages of various ethnicities or 'colours' in the population. Instead people of colour are invariably dramatically over-represented. Have the courage of your convictions, casting directors, and call it what it is- preferential treatment in casting for people of colour.
If in the UK one year some cultural panel of 4 people had one black person and 3 white (which already over-represents black people as they are much less than 25% of the population) and the next year it had 2 black and 2 white people it would be proudly trumpeted as 'a more diverse panel'. More diverse frequently simply means more black. I don't think it has occured to many of our current cultural commisars that it is even possible for people of colour to be over-represented- see TV, theatre, adverising etc.
Equality can be measured, equity is impossible to measure.
eye opening!
W.E.F.
4:40 compensationinst system
Why argue for equity when it’s already in place?
In the woke dictionary, "equity" means everyone has the same outcome. It doesn't refer to equality of opportunity. Any divergence in outcomes is claimed to be due to discrimination. Crazy, eh?
Very tough convos, but thanks for trying
Cough it up Charly
“Racism is the default position…” Sounds much like Freud’s The Psychopathology of Everyday Life. He really couldn’t define it (psychopathology) so he just said everyone’s “sick.”
Why are there nuns behind them 😂😂 yup just casually like this is normal
Couldnt follow...was too much distracted by the cats...super-cute! :DDDD
(joking...nice conversation)
Love the background here, silent actors.
Poor charlie
Progressivism poisons everything.
Better yet, don’t concede that word to them.
If a group advocates bad ideas that lead us to a worse position, they are regressive.
“Progress” implies change to a better position. They are effectively calling themselves “the goodies”.
Similarly they call themselves “elites” when they are not objectively good at much…or
“Intellectuals” when they are not actually intelligent
Omg, I love the set idea and the title!
One thing: the lighting is standard TV interview studio lighting, which is a bit harsh and....standard. The way it is now gives me the impression of an 80s (70s, 60s?) rendition of a tv period play: artificial and clearly shot in a studio. My suggestion would be to change it to lights with incandescent bulbs in old-fashioned lamps, that are more on eye-height. You did that for the background, why not do the same for the interviewer/interviewee? Technically that's all possible nowadays. Similarly, the sound would be less harsh and more relaxed if it was more coffee-shop or cafe-like. Now, I notice that there are people in the room who contribute very successfully to "the look," but they are, i guess, paid extras who are told to be quiet. It's not natural-looking.
So: a more natural, relaxed surroundings would be nice. It would contribute to the impression it seems you're aiming to create.
The contrast in the lighting, as well as the sound, is too high.
I LOVE the cats.
Also: why is John wearing a white shirt? It adds to the already high contrast of the lighting.
# Charlie's had enough Wokism 😊
What if the world ended in 2012 when the Mayans predicted it would and this really is a different sort of reality? What if we were part of a rapture and are those who were left behind because we weren't the chosen?
💥💥💥💥💥
how do i watch this whole video
Get rid of DEI 🤮
In this wonderful new, postmodern world, we know that the DNA of a certain group, identified by skin color, includes genes for mendacity, while another group of a specific hue carries genes of righteousness in those same locations. The latter must apply their superior moral compass to rule the more numerous, evil devils.The character of the individual is dismissed as irrelevant, because no one in the larger group can possibly be virtuous. There's noble word for this aspirational, equitable form of government. It's called "apartheid."
King Charles.
8:26 perfect comedic timing. I thought this was staged lol
I'd wager that it was staged.
Its a cult
"...people were treated horrifically on the basis of skin color. No one is denying that." Uhm, maybe, just maybe, THAT is the problem: The amount of people, especially those in positions of power, who ARE DENYING THAT. I am sorry, I agree with most in these series of conversations, but I also think how much undue emphasis is not placed on those very people who do everything possible to deny "THAT". People who actually have power.
Who are these people in power who deny that racist atrocities occurred in the past? I’m sure such people exist, but I see little evidence they represent a significant portion of those in power.
@@fromchomleystreet, do you actually think that it is as simple and obvious as declaring total and utter lies? It is the insidiousness of, let's say, Texas school boards changing/eliminating/diminishing specific historical facts. It is a Supreme Court making decisions based on prioritizing this over that. It is a US president's "there are good people on both sides" crap. It is a media company's "there are good arguments on both sides" imbecilic crap.
But besides all that, do go through the congressional record of the last thirty years of who said what, and it becomes kinda-very-much exemplified.
The cat is brilliant. Black and white, but playful. Its what our conversations need to be
Are those Nuns in the background???
This is cool, but it must be taxing for those extras, pretending to have a conversation for that long. lol
Charlie has had enough wokeism, like the rest of us ..
You're not on your own with this Charlie..
Cleese and the fellow liberal idiots of his generation who spend so much time berating the state we are now in, never acknowledge their part in our downfall. The fool who championed the Liberal Democrats and mocked the established order for most of his career failed to notice that Woke is merely the logical outcome of all the crap he pushed for decades. The fact that he thinks it ´just´ appeared and he didn´t see it coming is hilarious. Also, the fact that so many commenting here see Cleese as based is laughable!
funny acting around them haha
His explanation of equity sounded more like equality. At least to me it did.
He seems to jump around a bit when making his definition a couple times there, I see your confusion (I had them too).
Each state has 2 senators, regardless of the population within that state. Isn't that a problem with equity in politics?
This is a hangover from when the states were a federation. They wouldn't have joined unless they were equal in the senate. I actually quite like it.
@@perikleshistory It's actually an important safeguard against the more populous states running everything without consideration for the fly-over state's desires.