Garmin BaseCamp™ Import Google Maps & Tracks vs Routes

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  • @Al-fr1bi
    @Al-fr1bi 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks Tim, I am a hiker and import gpx files from All Trails into Basecamp where I can then transfer to my handheld gps. I struggled a bit with creating routes using basecamp but it worked out better IMO to split up a hike into intermediate waypoints and create routes between each. These can be modified easily. I then joined the routes together to form the complete route. Having said all that tracks work just fine when hiking. Sometimes however to change a track it is easier to create a new route and then change it back to a track after modification. There are probably alternate ways to do this. Again thanks for the great videos.

  • @TheWanderingGeezer
    @TheWanderingGeezer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Basecamp is the most archaic software I've ever used.

  • @mylake6978
    @mylake6978 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I'm a french hiker. I've just watched you're not a specialist of hiking but of motorcycling. So motorbikers are so fortunate! Because your videos are so clear and educational. You speak slowly, you show things step by step with a clear voice etc. I 've just bought a handheld hiking GPS advice and I've learned a lot even if I'm not a motorcycler. Thanks a lot

  • @francisantony12
    @francisantony12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I came across your videos a few days ago. They are absolutely top-class. Your treatment of various subjects is so thorough. I don't know who you are, but I sense a well-qualified ENgineer behind these videos. Thank you, Sir. You are doing the motorcycle community - and the society in general - a big service.

  • @bobprince1472
    @bobprince1472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Until I watched this video I had not understood that the word `Route`, in `routable maps` such as Basecamp, is not the same as my definition of the word in English as, literally any way you choose to go. I had always called what Basecamp or any satnav does `auto routing`, that is, finding the shortest way from A to B. Now you have clarified that for me it explains a lot of the difficulties I have had with Basecamp in the past. I always understood what a `track` was, so now I can make proper choices when plotting a "route".

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Always happy to help. Thanks for watching.

  • @toddlawrimore3577
    @toddlawrimore3577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video is important! It really explains why my Garmin occasionally makes insanely odd route choices. I know now to be more methodical when checking my data points.
    That recalculation for the gas station pit stop really blew my mind! It has happened to me several times and it is maddening, but now I know what is happening. Thanks Tim.

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome and thanks for watching.

  • @stewartinglis4557
    @stewartinglis4557 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really struggled with BaseCamp thanks to you Tim i'm getting my head round it and are able to use it to good effect for hiking in the UK.

  • @ANDREFMF
    @ANDREFMF 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I´m from Brazil, thank you very much for this vídeo! Awesome!

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching.

  • @dgu2
    @dgu2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Tim! Your videos have helped many! I believe that BaseCamp does confuse a lot of first time users.

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad to help. Thanks for watching.

  • @NicChap
    @NicChap 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Tim...Coffee sent.

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching.

  • @jonnypollard4304
    @jonnypollard4304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks Tim for another appreciated upload. This one started fine, but the going got a little heavy with all the hassle over the waypoints. My own method, admittedly fairly basic, is to import the route by gpx file then create a route from it, and display it in yellow. Then, simply create my 'own route' directly on top in magenta, following the yellow route. Once complete, it's easy to see if there is any variation because the different colours will separate. If OK, save the new magenta route and delete the imported route. This has the advantage that you can identify intermediate waypoints by name, rather than just having the names of the start and end points only, as the imported route displays. Just my idea.. thanks again!

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your method is excellent. It's simple and straightforward. This video was inspired by viewers who needed to know more about converting tracks to routes using BaseCamp's features. They also wondered why the converted routes didn't work if they went off the path a little bit. I hope this answered their questions. Thanks for watching and for your comment.

    • @stuipooey1
      @stuipooey1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Jonny, glad i found your comment, I was getting bogged down with the method in the video and tried yours, it is far quicker and easier. That said without Tim's help I would be nowhere on basecamp and would have given up

    • @gardeni
      @gardeni ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Jonny. Thanks for this comment. I've just started using Basecamp (not a fan, must confess) and was frustrated that the export of the basecamp route to my BMW (ie. Garmin) Nav VI only had the start and finish points, with no waypoints included. For me, the waypoints are vital, in case i'm detoured for whatever reason.
      Whilst you're approach is simple in principle, it still requires quite a lot of fiddling about in Basecamp to get the exact overlay. I don't suppose you've found another (easier!) method in the meantime? Thanks again.

  • @dennism665
    @dennism665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holy crap Batman! That explains a lot of the problems I’ve been having with KMLs to gpx. Thanks Tim.

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome and thanks for watching. Please spread the word to others who may benefit.

  • @golosock
    @golosock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is the most usefull video I have seen on this topic. I found answers to all technical questions. Thank you!

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Recently I purchased a Zumo-XT. I discovered in the Garmin documentation that you can't import a KML directly into Garmin Explore; you have to import it into BaseCamp and then export it. This topic is more important than I realized. I'll be doing more videos on Garmin Explore. Thanks for watching.

  • @geofffarrell8105
    @geofffarrell8105 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job!

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching.

  • @shannoncook1672
    @shannoncook1672 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tim, love the videos. Does it matter if you use KML files or GPX files to import a map from Google maps etc. or any other file that you have downloaded??

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      KML and GPX files do not contain maps. A KML file contains a Track. A GPX file can contain either a Track or a Route. Which format you use depends on what you want to accomplish. Thanks for watching.

  • @kukmica6422
    @kukmica6422 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much!👍

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome! Thanks for watching.

  • @michaeltibaldi4625
    @michaeltibaldi4625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good video. I’m hoping I can ask a question through this comment section. I’ve used Basecamp for years and had an experience where I had a circular trip with two way points and approximately 25 shaping points. I’ve ventured away from my route to get gas and found the GPS was then taking me on a direct line to a waypoint. I closed that route and went directly to what I thought was my planned route and restarted my planned route. To my surprise I picked an incorrect spot and actually was traveling on a return leg (going home) rather than my original route to the destination. But the shocking thing was the GPS continued to give me directions although my original plan was to go into the opposite direction. So two questions I have are 1) if you go off of a route that has mostly shipping points does the GPS give up and just go directly to the next waypoint, and 2) was I crazy or did the GPS allow me to choose the route and go in the opposite direction I originally had planned.
    I hope someone can comment.

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      First, let me give your the solution to this problem - Do not create circular routes. Make one route out and another for back.
      I don't know for sure what the GPS did, but I do know Garmin GPSs have a nice feature that may have contributed to it sending you home. You may have noticed that if you bypass a waypoint, the GPS will tell you to make a U-Turn a couple of times, then it will proceed on your route. It's as if were thinking, "You're on the route, so I guess you intended to skip that waypoint. Let's keep going." The GPS in the Harley Infotainment system doesn't have this feature and it will repeatedly tell you to make a U-turn until you instruct it to skip the next waypoint. Sometimes you have to skip several times. That's very annoying and unsafe feature. In your situation, the GPS probably the end waypoint was the closest and directed you to it. If you had two routes instead of the single circular route, it would have directed you to the end of the "out" route.
      Thanks for watching.

  • @johnnymac8179
    @johnnymac8179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Tim! Your videos have helped me a bunch ! I have been using mymaps to import into basecamp and have just been using tracks to navigate (mostly unpaved roads ) . I will try some routes again just for fun! Cheers!

  • @luishcoreia
    @luishcoreia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello sir. Thanks a lot for your videos. They made be be proficient in using basecamp. A question: when importing KML files from google maps, is there anyway for the waypoints or points of interest on the KML map to be automatically interest on the route or track in basecamp? I get just a list of points with no name. If I have a waypoint that’s a gas station, I get a normal track point near to it, but with no name. I have to manually add those waypoints to the route.

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you create your route in Google with a "Driving Directions" layer, you can add destinations and you can name those destinations. Next, export the route to a KML file. The KML file contains a track and separately the collections of "Destinations." When you import to BaseCamp, you will see the track and the "Destinations" as waypoints. Remember, a track is an ordered list of geographical locations. The locations are not named and the "Destinations" are not embedded in the track. What you can do is convert the track to a route, then insert the waypoints into the route. Your best bet, however, is to abandon Google and just use BaseCamp™. Thanks for watching.

  • @Grumpyoldman60-
    @Grumpyoldman60- ปีที่แล้ว +1

    watched all your videos and for the life of me i can't get basecamp to write maps on the route i want. tried google maps to Garmin and they won't load on the zumo xt

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure I understand your comment; BaseCamp copies routes/tracks/waypoint to the Zumo XT. Crate a simple route and copy it to your GPS as practice. Thanks for watching.

  • @UncleWally3
    @UncleWally3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Garmin user, but not a Base Camp user, I’m still not sure if the juice is worth the squeeze to learn all these steps. Is there simpler way for simpler people to import a route to my Garmin GPS?

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, there are many routing programs and websites that are simpler. None of the other options I've tried is as comprehensive and useful as BaseCamp, but it does take some effort to discover its advantages. You might like my series on Tyre 2 Navigate. th-cam.com/play/PL7SnEAaQ4kJj5miHKMzh9hPXpdOT1R2e0.html
      Thanks for watching.

  • @pittshopesp3064
    @pittshopesp3064 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about point to point straight line??

  • @JeiBeeBee
    @JeiBeeBee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful video! 👍

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.

  • @thalisblangidis8577
    @thalisblangidis8577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use this method to plan routes and it is awesome. In my opinion, nothing can replace the usability of google maps in finding POIs and plan an interesting route. Great, really helpful, tutorial (I have watched all the series, as basecamp is powerful but with steep learning curve. Great job and thank you) .
    I have a question though, if anybody knows the answer, and if there is one of course. Is it any way to have a clear indication when I arrive to 'Alter on Arrival' waypoints? For example like when you arrive to your destination and Garmin propose parking spaces etc (a side menu appears with various options)?
    I have made some trials so far and it is very useful that I can see the distance and the arrival time until the next 'Alerted' point but I haven't noticed anything to Alert me upon my arrival.

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If I understand your question, the process is manual. Once you arrive, if you want to find parking, or hotel, etc. go to Where To -> Points of Interest -> {category}. As far as I know, there is no way to automatically alert you. Thanks for watching.

    • @thalisblangidis8577
      @thalisblangidis8577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EZMotoTim Thank you for your reply:-)

    • @thalisblangidis8577
      @thalisblangidis8577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EZMotoTim Usually when I make my route I put some 'Alert on arrival' points where I want to stop, take photos etc. Sometimes it can be a place like castle or museum etc which is easy to find and you will not miss it. But sometimes it can be just a spot on the road, a parking or something like that which you may missed traveling on a bike. This is the reason I ask how the 'Alert on arrival' works for points on the route.

  • @marknovackmoto
    @marknovackmoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Early on your comment about Tracks vs Routes is not entirely true. A track can display where you’ve been but it can also be used for navigation of where you want to go. This is especially true of off-road/adventure bike navigation where you might be traveling on trails or unnamed roads. The track becomes a bread trail of points that you follow, similar to blazed marks on a trail. Since you cannot have turn by turn navigation like “turn right on Main St” as turn “turn right at the big rock” would be too ambiguous, you just need to follow the line (track) to follow your “route” and get to your destination. You can also follow a track for on-road navigation, but prompted navigation with street names is much easier on road. You can display a track on your GPS (at least newer models) and confirm that the GPS is following your original route and not deviating due to an unmatched setting or routing error as the track will be a true “track” of the route from Basecamp. Your video series is very complete and makes using Basecamp more friendly and easier to learn, at least from an experienced users POV that has heard of the difficulties new users face. At some point you may need to update for newest GPS units like the ZUMO XT as they behave slightly different in some aspects and include some new “connected” and online features.

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment. The information is helpful. I have purchased and am using a Zumo -XT. Thanks for watching.

  • @asherdog9248
    @asherdog9248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have to be honest I have watched this video 3 times and can't get past the question "why would I try to import a Google myMaps map into BaseCamp and have to go through all of these gyrations when I can create the route to begin with in Basecamp?" I am assuming that if I create the route in Basecamp it will precisely overlay the intended roadway just like it was drawn? I am an Overlander trying to follow the US National Historic Trails not a motorcyclist, but the goal is similar. We both want a route centric set of directions not a destination centric set of directions. My preference would be not to have to buy a Garmin device, but as I understand the phone won't give me turn by turn directions from a Google MyMaps Route, I see no choice but to buy a Garmin product? So, given that I have to buy a Garmin product to get turn by turn directions, why not just use the Garmin product and the Garmin mapping tool? Am I still missing something?

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You aren't missing anything. Some people asked me how to import from Google, so I did this video. I believe they had Google My Maps routes that others had shared with them. Routes in Google are easy to create and easy to share with a group.

    • @apeel2008
      @apeel2008 ปีที่แล้ว

      @asherdog9248 I think the main reason for learning this technique is that Google Maps is a great resource for seeing a route clearly, finding interesting POIs along the way, adjusting route directions, etc. After planning out the road trip using Google MyMaps, then it does take some extra work to convert it to Garmin, but that extra effort is a lot less work than the frustration of searching a route, finding POIs and attractions in Basecamp from the beginning. So while complicated and time consuming, it is IMHO better and more efficient than trying to do it entirely in Basecamp.

  • @semdonempiedade7914
    @semdonempiedade7914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir I'm new here I have a Garmin Montana 700i and I tried to follow your advices but I could not upload any Route consistently in to my Garmin with Basecamp...I did a route with 3 parts from Virginia Beach to Niagara and could not upload and make it work on my Garmin.... anyone struggling same as me?

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm afraid I can't help with the Montana as I don't have one. On the Zumo-XT uploading routes to it is a 2-step process. First upload the gpx to the Zumo using BaseCamp and second, import the route on the Zumo. Thanks for watching.

  • @dallasdavis4419
    @dallasdavis4419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While trying to create a route from a track, the route shows a straight line from the start to the end. It eliminates all points in between. What am I doing wrong?

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's likely you haven't changed the Activity Profile to Motorcycling, etc. from Direct. Thanks for watching. Thanks for watching.

  • @EverydayRoadster
    @EverydayRoadster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Google My Maps already is way too complicated. I would never use it for route planning, just the simple plain planning with regular Google Maps. This is, because then I can use it for regular navigation on my mobile and I also can easily share a simple URL link with others. A friend though is struggling with this approach and can not take the link into BaseCamp.

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did this video because someone wanted to know how to import a Google My Maps route/track. That person was sharing the Google route with friends. Thanks for watching.

  • @keithfreeman4205
    @keithfreeman4205 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imported into Base Camp a Google Map. Whenever I "Create Route from Selected Track", it just draws a straight line from beginning address to ending address.

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Remember to change the profile from Direct to Motorcycle. Thanks for watching.

  • @thelifeofdan5768
    @thelifeofdan5768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are great at reassuring me that Garmin and Base Camp are two of the most ridiculous pieces of crap money can buy. Why wouldn’t Garmin make planning a route as easy as Google my maps is. Point A-B and then grab and slide the route to the roads you want…. Hit GO and away you go. I absolutely hate I bought the Garmin XT. JUNK!

    • @EZMotoTim
      @EZMotoTim  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it is easy to create a route in Google My Maps and easy to navigate with it on your phone. I'm a retired software developer and I understand that Garmin software developers have an odd way of thinking. The Garmin online instructions say that Zumo XT users have to first import KML files into BaseCamp before exporting them to Garmin Explore and the Zumo XT. Yes, that's crazy. My videos are intended for people who really want to get past the obstacles and learn how to use BaseCamp to get the most out of their Garmin GPS. I'm working on videos about Garmin Explore. True to Garmin's nature, Explore is odd. You might want to watch my videos on Tyre 2 Navigate. It's easy to use and works with Garmin and Tom Tom GPSs. There are also a number of online routing sites. Thanks for watching.