Thankyou sir. Its been a long time since we have witnessed such excitement in your voice durring a review. Top 10 boat you've been on? Think so. Viva the mast central. It works on so many levels. Well done.
I am a monohull sailor and have seen many three story charted cats on the med and Agean with 400 friends aboard going slowly. Ok, they are having fun and can split the cost, good luck to them. If I ever had one i would need some increased performance over my monohull . I am sure that there are a lot of monohull sailors yet to be convinced that a cat is the way to go. My wife has told me for years that a motor yacht or cat is needed. Mind you, her predessor said the same thing. This just might be the kind of thing? Good video you obviously enjoyed your sail.
I like the approach of the small table inside. Almost everyone eats outside the vast majority of the time so the inside table isn't used that much and by downsizing it they can fit a good nav station.
Outside salon means less space to air condition. Utility area is a realistic need and appreciated. Forward nav with great visibility, bimini shade at helms. It lookes suited for Caribbean excursions. I see the value and positive attributes in the design. Just spotted the dingy davits, cool.
thanks toby, very nice and mouth watering video! I can‘t remember having you heard considering live changing actions to own a boat. But I can fully understand - it looks like a well done boat.
I very much like the darker richer wood finish. Much more romantically nautical than the Motel 6/Ikea blond wood of most cats. I really am impressed that this designer did not try to seat the entire British royal family around a salon banquet table in a 44 foot boat. Keep the guests in the cockpit where they belong. This layout also allows for a decent sized galley that can actually prepare a meal for more than two people. And, yea, rounded corners in the salon cabinetry.
Really nice boat. I don't mind the outward helms. There are advantages and disadvantages to every helm position. On world cruising you will use it manly for docking/anchoring or in some sort of emergencies. Meaning you will be on autopilot 99.9% of the time. But it definitely needs some sort of lineboxes. Just lock at that spaghetti mess on the cockpit floor! Major tripping hazard when manoeuvering and moving from one helm to the other!
Great review Toby! Somewhat more affordable than the Outremer too, but I think I would miss the swivel steering, I'm not sure why more manufacturers don't do the same? Inboard, standing and outboard steering positions seem the best of all worlds? They're all getting better and better these cats.
Toby I love the long awaited review.. great job as always.. one question your true wind speed said 14 knots and you were sailing at 10 knots pretty much close hauled somewhere around 45-50 awa so how come the code zero was up in apparent wind speed must have been 20 or more knots ? Maybe true wind speed wasn’t correct in this video Feedback welcome seeing as you were there 👍👍
1:07 you can't argue with someone elses experience just because you have a preference sir. you mostly test boats in ideal conditions. when its pitch black , 1000 miles offshore, wind blowing ... you won't care for freezing water or the feel of the rudder. being covered makes practical, real world sense.
I would perhaps argue that if I were in that situation Dumingu I would be under autopilot and sat in complete protection at the forward facing navstation!
Great review Toby, Mark Lombard designs some fantastic yachts, But before I spend 800k I need to see you out On the open ocean in a force 6 putting this one Through its paces, only then can we say we have A great cruising yacht…
Toby, I am an avid fun of your excellent videos! Question: between de Nautitech 44 and the 48 for a couple with grown up kids to live most of the time aboard? We need the three cabin plus the smart room that I find brilliant. Been sailing since I was 10...
Thanks @EduardoFritisRealtor - but as I have still yet to see or sail the 48 I can't really answer that properly I'm afraid! But if you've got the funds then obviously going for the bigger boat could make sense... not simply for liveaboard volume, but hull length - and the ability to keeping weight out of the ends of the cat - makes a big difference to comfort and speed on passage.
I like that we finally came down with the size (and price) - I do not view the out of reach stuff. But a boat needs to give me the lust to live aboard, which I do not receive here.
Thanks Toby great review, it’s definitely one of the more interesting cats for the money and one for the lotto list! Would go with the lighter colour, saw one and was a lot brighter In salon
The only thing I don't like about these is how small the indoor space is. I know together with the back deck open area it's a large space and you can sort of enclose it, but there is just something about it that feels too small.
lets see it in blue waters and trade wind seas. I dunno man, 3-4 meter waves coming from behind? I think there might be better choices for bluewater... it's a nice boat but looks to be more a coastal cruiser imo
I just wonder how competitive the boat is when you outfit it the way this model is with a price tag north of 800k. There are several semi custom cats in that price range that give you significantly more performance with only a marginal hit on living accommodations and cold storage units.
So why does no one just build aft cabins across the boat and put the helm on there. You sit a bit higher behind the salon and just walk down in it. You also feee up more space in the hull. It is protected, higher but not as high as a fly. You also can add a hardtop for solar
in trying to envision your suggestion, I can't help but think of how little the mail sail could move out ... unless you went like the lagoons with very poorly designed high position main sail... you want your main sail as low as possible to provide the power and catch of the light winds, center of gravity, etc. you want that power going into the boat.
Only thing I would change is on the owners side, is to have the door to the shower open from the other side, so you do not have to step around it, getting in and out. As most of the time you would be coming from the bedroom cabin
remove those catching handles and put sliding doors on both for the walk way... the narrow walk ways are an advantage but there are details as such that should be considered.
You can not argue against the fact, that open helm positions are, what the name suggest: Open to view, yes, but also to the elements in bad weather. Great maybe, for a recreational sailor. Unlivable for a cruiser sailing full time onboard a catamaran, who also eventually will be caught out in nasty weather and rough seas. No, it is not the catamaran of the year, which have to go to Windelo 54, and that one fantastically cost about the same as this smallish catamaran, with lots of solar and an advanced electric suit, including electric engines with hydro generation. The Windelo may even out sail this one too.
it obvious that this boat was designed as a live aboard for 2 person - maybe 3. It seems nice but seems like a lot of compromises where made in the interior dining area
I think one thing that gets overlooked on comments on these is that being outside in the wind and weather is why you sail these boats. But still - you don't sail one of these through the Bearing Sea chasing one of the fishing boats on Deadliest Catch. If you watch Erik Aanderaa's channel he's in an open cockpit Contessa Sailboat going to Greenland. Yea he's out in force 9 seas in his foulies have a grand old time. It's like Ice Fishing or winter camping. If you don't get it - you won't get it. Me - I don't get it. Give me a Nordhavn with a nice heated pilot house - Or even better a nice couch with a Nordhavn on TV. It's a very modern design. That is what Marc Lombard does. You don't ask for a Morgan by Tesla. They have their own vibes. Me I'm a Morgan guy. But - not in NYC. This also isn't a top line Lux cat like a 60 foot Sunreef. It doesn't cost like that either. I would like it if Toby would review American Sailboats like Catalinas. We do make Sailboats here you know. This isn't what I would want if price was no option - but I'd be thrilled if someone gave me one. I won't sail this through the Great Lakes in February. I'd Snowbird it to Florida and the Keys and and find out if all Pina Colada's taste the same.
And what kind of Sailing performance can you get out of a Sunreef? Aren't those basically bricks? I also wonder what the CO2 emissions are from the gensets on the Sunreefs... I'm betting a Rapido 60 or one of the on-off trimarans close in size to the Rapido 60 is a A LOT more fun to sail compared with a Sunreef 60... I'm also betting a Rapido 60 can sail in a A LOT lighter winds than a Sunreef 60... In those kind of conditions the Sunreef would just be bobbing around or have to motor instead - and spewing even more CO2... Yeah, nah... I would NOT want a Sunreef!
Exposed helms are only of any sense in fine weather, day sailing. Do it in the rain, in the cold and wind, in realistic offshore seas and you have to be dressed like a mono-sailor, and will feel somewhat miserable, exposed and weather-beaten after an hour! The main problem with most of these (nonetheless useful) reviews is they are nearly all in flat water, which is just not realistic when or if trying to see the true colours of a vessel. Anyone who is not an armchair yachtie knows this significant fact/ deficiency. PS stop quoting ex VAT!
Some,people like and want to sail, noze in the wind and not in a motorboat , warm and nice like in an apartment, sometimes double the price of this one.
Good review but the boat is overpriced and nothing special. I'd prefer an alu cat from France going blue water with reefs, containers etc. Or an alu monohull from the Netherlands. Coastal sailing is of course less demanding.
Like your channel. But please don’t call it the best boat, it’s way to small, at lest to my opinion and the aft help mis great if you go to the attic or sailing in the tropics. Getting frozen or cooked.. not a smart design, direct or not Looks like a great boats for weekends only when one lives onboard and want to do large parts of the worlds this is just not a high standard
so much wasted space having those lines run on top of the aft staterooms, cant imagine it wouldve been a hassle to have them run into a covered duct to the helms
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So far the best content on TH-cam when the subject is catamaran reviews! Thank you Captain Nils Günter for all your super detailed informations ❤
Nils is the photographer who took the sailing footage. But thank you!
Love the reviews under sail, thank you! Great review of the great boat ❤👍🏻
Thank you!
Mr. Hodges, I feel like you're a lucky man getting to sail all of these beautiful boats, looks like a lot of fun.
Thanks - and yes this was a good day!
Thankyou sir. Its been a long time since we have witnessed such excitement in your voice durring a review. Top 10 boat you've been on? Think so. Viva the mast central. It works on so many levels. Well done.
Thanks Toby and Nautitech/Bavaria. A lot to like.
i like seeing the boat full of people. Gives a sense of size
Great review, nice interior - another solid offering from Nautitech!
I am a monohull sailor and have seen many three story charted cats on the med and Agean with 400 friends aboard going slowly. Ok, they are having fun and can split the cost, good luck to them. If I ever had one i would need some increased performance over my monohull . I am sure that there are a lot of monohull sailors yet to be convinced that a cat is the way to go. My wife has told me for years that a motor yacht or cat is needed. Mind you, her predessor said the same thing. This just might be the kind of thing? Good video you obviously enjoyed your sail.
Toby is the best in class presenter and narrator
the boat sells it self
this took a lot of thought congrats on the design
Thank you!
Also love the sailing tours - much better feel for what it's really like
I love your updates and small videos. The Malizians rocks. 💪🏻
I like the approach of the small table inside. Almost everyone eats outside the vast majority of the time so the inside table isn't used that much and by downsizing it they can fit a good nav station.
Outside salon means less space to air condition. Utility area is a realistic need and appreciated. Forward nav with great visibility, bimini shade at helms. It lookes suited for Caribbean excursions. I see the value and positive attributes in the design. Just spotted the dingy davits, cool.
Toby 🥰🥰🥰
Great review, Toby!
thanks toby, very nice and mouth watering video! I can‘t remember having you heard considering live changing actions to own a boat. But I can fully understand - it looks like a well done boat.
I very much like the darker richer wood finish. Much more romantically nautical than the Motel 6/Ikea blond wood of most cats. I really am impressed that this designer did not try to seat the entire British royal family around a salon banquet table in a 44 foot boat. Keep the guests in the cockpit where they belong. This layout also allows for a decent sized galley that can actually prepare a meal for more than two people. And, yea, rounded corners in the salon cabinetry.
great catamaran ... love how quiet it is
When a man who sails everything for a living enthuses, sensible people paÿ attention.....
Really nice boat. I don't mind the outward helms. There are advantages and disadvantages to every helm position. On world cruising you will use it manly for docking/anchoring or in some sort of emergencies. Meaning you will be on autopilot 99.9% of the time. But it definitely needs some sort of lineboxes. Just lock at that spaghetti mess on the cockpit floor! Major tripping hazard when manoeuvering and moving from one helm to the other!
Great Review
Great review Toby! Somewhat more affordable than the Outremer too, but I think I would miss the swivel steering, I'm not sure why more manufacturers don't do the same? Inboard, standing and outboard steering positions seem the best of all worlds? They're all getting better and better these cats.
Good point, but might be worth trying this one James!
Toby I love the long awaited review.. great job as always.. one question your true wind speed said 14 knots and you were sailing at 10 knots pretty much close hauled somewhere around 45-50 awa so how come the code zero was up in apparent wind speed must have been 20 or more knots ? Maybe true wind speed wasn’t correct in this video
Feedback welcome seeing as you were there 👍👍
1:07 you can't argue with someone elses experience just because you have a preference sir. you mostly test boats in ideal conditions. when its pitch black , 1000 miles offshore, wind blowing ... you won't care for freezing water or the feel of the rudder. being covered makes practical, real world sense.
I would perhaps argue that if I were in that situation Dumingu I would be under autopilot and sat in complete protection at the forward facing navstation!
Great review Toby,
Mark Lombard designs some fantastic yachts,
But before I spend 800k I need to see you out
On the open ocean in a force 6 putting this one
Through its paces, only then can we say we have
A great cruising yacht…
Thanks - and give me the chance and I shall gladly try!
I like the wheel placement. It is a sailboat😀
Toby, I am an avid fun of your excellent videos! Question: between de Nautitech 44 and the 48 for a couple with grown up kids to live most of the time aboard? We need the three cabin plus the smart room that I find brilliant. Been sailing since I was 10...
Thanks @EduardoFritisRealtor - but as I have still yet to see or sail the 48 I can't really answer that properly I'm afraid! But if you've got the funds then obviously going for the bigger boat could make sense... not simply for liveaboard volume, but hull length - and the ability to keeping weight out of the ends of the cat - makes a big difference to comfort and speed on passage.
@@yachtingworld Many thanks for your prompt reply! Are you planning in reviewing the 48 Open any time soon?
I like that we finally came down with the size (and price) - I do not view the out of reach stuff. But a boat needs to give me the lust to live aboard, which I do not receive here.
Thanks Toby great review, it’s definitely one of the more interesting cats for the money and one for the lotto list! Would go with the lighter colour, saw one and was a lot brighter In salon
Thanks Richie
The only thing I don't like about these is how small the indoor space is. I know together with the back deck open area it's a large space and you can sort of enclose it, but there is just something about it that feels too small.
How did they get the washing machine in there? Did the install it before they glued the top on?
Why not use a forward camera to see blind spots
lets see it in blue waters and trade wind seas. I dunno man, 3-4 meter waves coming from behind? I think there might be better choices for bluewater... it's a nice boat but looks to be more a coastal cruiser imo
Great review! Mr. Hodges, if you were buying a Cat, would you prefer a solid fore deck over the trampoline style??
Personally I like a trampoline - especially for keeping weight down forward
@@yachtingworld Good point, thanks for the reply.
Hi Toby, I know they’re different yachts - but not so different. So Which performs better - Neel43 or Nautitech46?
I just wonder how competitive the boat is when you outfit it the way this model is with a price tag north of 800k. There are several semi custom cats in that price range that give you significantly more performance with only a marginal hit on living accommodations and cold storage units.
So why does no one just build aft cabins across the boat and put the helm on there. You sit a bit higher behind the salon and just walk down in it. You also feee up more space in the hull. It is protected, higher but not as high as a fly. You also can add a hardtop for solar
in trying to envision your suggestion, I can't help but think of how little the mail sail could move out ... unless you went like the lagoons with very poorly designed high position main sail... you want your main sail as low as possible to provide the power and catch of the light winds, center of gravity, etc. you want that power going into the boat.
Only thing I would change is on the owners side, is to have the door to the shower open from the other side, so you do not have to step around it, getting in and out. As most of the time you would be coming from the bedroom cabin
remove those catching handles and put sliding doors on both for the walk way... the narrow walk ways are an advantage but there are details as such that should be considered.
You can not argue against the fact, that open helm positions are, what the name suggest: Open to view, yes, but also to the elements in bad weather. Great maybe, for a recreational sailor. Unlivable for a cruiser sailing full time onboard a catamaran, who also eventually will be caught out in nasty weather and rough seas. No, it is not the catamaran of the year, which have to go to Windelo 54, and that one fantastically cost about the same as this smallish catamaran, with lots of solar and an advanced electric suit, including electric engines with hydro generation. The Windelo may even out sail this one too.
it obvious that this boat was designed as a live aboard for 2 person - maybe 3. It seems nice but seems like a lot of compromises where made in the interior dining area
Why not just put some cameras up front on link them to a screen in front of the helms?
Music ?
Sail it with spray and rain.
I think one thing that gets overlooked on comments on these is that being outside in the wind and weather is why you sail these boats. But still - you don't sail one of these through the Bearing Sea chasing one of the fishing boats on Deadliest Catch. If you watch Erik Aanderaa's channel he's in an open cockpit Contessa Sailboat going to Greenland. Yea he's out in force 9 seas in his foulies have a grand old time. It's like Ice Fishing or winter camping. If you don't get it - you won't get it. Me - I don't get it. Give me a Nordhavn with a nice heated pilot house - Or even better a nice couch with a Nordhavn on TV. It's a very modern design. That is what Marc Lombard does. You don't ask for a Morgan by Tesla. They have their own vibes. Me I'm a Morgan guy. But - not in NYC.
This also isn't a top line Lux cat like a 60 foot Sunreef. It doesn't cost like that either. I would like it if Toby would review American Sailboats like Catalinas. We do make Sailboats here you know.
This isn't what I would want if price was no option - but I'd be thrilled if someone gave me one. I won't sail this through the Great Lakes in February. I'd Snowbird it to Florida and the Keys and and find out if all Pina Colada's taste the same.
And what kind of Sailing performance can you get out of a Sunreef? Aren't those basically bricks? I also wonder what the CO2 emissions are from the gensets on the Sunreefs... I'm betting a Rapido 60 or one of the on-off trimarans close in size to the Rapido 60 is a A LOT more fun to sail compared with a Sunreef 60... I'm also betting a Rapido 60 can sail in a A LOT lighter winds than a Sunreef 60... In those kind of conditions the Sunreef would just be bobbing around or have to motor instead - and spewing even more CO2... Yeah, nah... I would NOT want a Sunreef!
Pullman bunk in smart room?
Masts look better forward and outside of the salon with outside and inside helms.
Beneteau excell 14
Really, outboard helm's on a serious live aboard, with a handkercheif of top cover...?
Exposed helms are only of any sense in fine weather, day sailing. Do it in the rain, in the cold and wind, in realistic offshore seas and you have to be dressed like a mono-sailor, and will feel somewhat miserable, exposed and weather-beaten after an hour! The main problem with most of these (nonetheless useful) reviews is they are nearly all in flat water, which is just not realistic when or if trying to see the true colours of a vessel. Anyone who is not an armchair yachtie knows this significant fact/ deficiency. PS stop quoting ex VAT!
Some,people like and want to sail, noze in the wind and not in a motorboat , warm and nice like in an apartment, sometimes double the price of this one.
Good review but the boat is overpriced and nothing special. I'd prefer an alu cat from France going blue water with reefs, containers etc. Or an alu monohull from the Netherlands. Coastal sailing is of course less demanding.
There's almost nothing I like about this boat's interior.
Having recently done 1,000 miles in a Lagoon 42, I can say that my first impression is how quiet this boat is under sail compared to the Lagoon.
wow really? who's interior do you prefer?
Like your channel. But please don’t call it the best boat, it’s way to small, at lest to my opinion and the aft help mis great if you go to the attic or sailing in the tropics. Getting frozen or cooked.. not a smart design, direct or not
Looks like a great boats for weekends only when one lives onboard and want to do large parts of the worlds this is just not a high standard
Quieter than an HH44
Do not like open to any weather skippers place! Same thing in Excess catamaran…
so much wasted space having those lines run on top of the aft staterooms, cant imagine it wouldve been a hassle to have them run into a covered duct to the helms
Thought the same