I always found value in understanding a regions geographical layout before you could truly comprehend the history and development of their contemporary society. Mountain valleys, rivers, deltas, etc all have crucial roles in divisions and connections alike so it’s eye opening to understand these things. You do an excellent job in accentuating the role of geography in Chinese historical narratives.
Thanks, glad you've found it helpful. With geography especially I think video format works well to show things visually, and reading about them can be much more difficult.
This is so interesting!!! This the way history was taught when I was in school. I'm so glad to have this information in English. I've been studying Chinese history on my own for a while, off and on, this one video made everything fall into place. Also, thank you for pronouncing the Chinese names clearly and slowly. It gives me good chance at being able to learn them. I also like when you break down the names and explain the meaning of different parts like east and west. I like all the maps and how you highlight and add arrows and names when it complements the narration. Keep up the good work!!
Thanks for the feedback, and I'm glad to hear you found this video helpful! Chinese geographical names can be quite dense for non-Chinese speaking audiences, although there are a lot of patterns, rules, and historical continuities with them. Hopefully this video and some of the future ones I'm working on now can help demystify some of this.
Appreciate the support! The algorithm gods absolutely smiled on my channel this week (I think I got 5x more views this week than the previous 1.5 years combined), and great that the algorithm did its job of connecting us.
Fascinating! I know the broad strokes of Chinese history. But you really get into the nitty-gritty battle tactics of certain states, here during the famed Three Kingdoms Period, 三國時代. Keep up the good work! I had vaguely heard about the Huai River, and I knew that Hefei was the capital of Anhui Province. But now I know why Hefei is so important. You filled in so many gaps to my historical knowledge. Thank you! (You should definitely do a video on the importance of the Hexi Corridor (河西走廊) to Chinese history. It's such an underrated part of China that influenced so much of its development, especially the importance of Chang'an as a capital city for almost 1,000 years.)
Thanks for the feedback - I don't have a video dedicated to the Hexi Corridor yet, although my most recent video, which is on the early history of the Northern Wei Dynasty, spends a lot of time on the northwest too. Starting at 6:47 in the video there's a chapter about the overall geography the region including the Hexi Corridor, although mostly in the specific context of early medieval Chinese history.
Sun Quan also became a joke on the Chinese internet because of Hefei. He was called "Sun 100,000" by Chinese netizens because he led an army of 100,000 men to attack Hefei many times but failed.
When studying Chinese history in college, we never learned much about the geography and how it affected events. The best we would get was an outline of Asia with some lines drawn over it. This is so enlightening!
Excellent presentation. The history is well scripted and compelling, the maps are very helpful, and the personalities vivid. I hope you get more subscribers and viewers. Truly one of the best historical channels on YT and especially for Chinese history. In 15 minutes you helped me connect numerous small isolated facts I'd known. BTW, I was in China in 1995 and 96, and sailed the 3 Gorges before the dam was started. Very fond of China!
Thanks, and glad you enjoyed it! Right now I'm trying to carefully hone my skillset and lay the foundation for a good reputable and reliable channel rather than focus too much on growth, although over the past week the algorithm has really smiled on me (that's how you found this channel I think), so it's been quite a pleasant surprise and encouragement for the work I've put in so far. Being able to sail down the Three Gorges before the dam must have been an incredible experience. I was too young to have had the chance to do the cruise before the dam was built, and have still yet to visit anyway. It's supposed to be one of the absolute top destinations in China though, and so cool you got to see it.
Outstanding video! The way you blend geography and history to galvanize stories and lessons is terrific. In 15 minutes I went from having almost zero knowledge to feeling like I had a good handle on both the geography and the broad strokes of the area's history. Thanks!
The Huai River was also the cultural and bio geographic division between N and S in prehistoric times) Palaeolithic and Neolithic). It would be great if you could do a video summarizing the geographical history of those formative times.
Thank you for the insight and feedback, and yes this is something that I want to get into eventually. My plan is to do a series on ancient Chinese history from the beginning to the decline of the Han Dynasty, much like the series on medieval Chinese history that I am working on now, and for the first few videos I want to somehow find a way to weave the archaeological evidence and mythologies side by side into a narrative. It'll be very tricky to write though, but should also be quite rewarding to do.
Wonderfully informative channel, thank you for putting together such a well-organized presentation. Very glad that the algorithm led me to this, I can't wait to go through your back catalogue!
thank you very much! i have been intereted in military geography of China for some time. seem to have learned something but not fully grasp the idea. but this video really give me a vivid understanding of the basic analysis.i finally understand the route of marching is heavily constrained by the logistics usually by river transport.
Thanks, glad you've found it helpful! There's a lot of Chinese historical geography that's not immediately obvious on the map, so hopefully this video and other ones I plan to make can help demystify some of that.
Thanks, I've mostly been focused on teaching myself how to make videos these 1.5 years and in a way have appreciated the lack of exposure, although with that said the algorithm really picked up this week and the new growth has also been very exciting to see.
This is my second time on your channel, and I enjoyed this one as well. Thank you. China is a big place, and I liked the brief look at some of its geographic diversity. God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
Thank you for the kind words, and appreciate the support! I grew up reading Chinese history, so I hope I can help introduce a lot of these concepts to an English-speaking audience.
Two river cross Anhui province, my hometown is in Southern of yanze river, we eat rice. the people living between yangze and huai river eat wheat and rice , the people from north huai river eat wheat.
you remind me of the channel of prometeus about history, and I was interessed for chinese history, but didn't have an great start, this may help me understand more chinese history, thank you
This presentation of how China's geography affected a period of its ancient history is very interesting and very helpful. Considering the geographical exigencies alone, the resources and technical skills needed to contend in these continental struggles must have been vast. So much ongoing conflict! It reminds me of European history. Thank you.
Your new video on Xiangyang was the first of yours I had seen, and am now watching many of them. Now that you have gotten into a pretty deep history of Nanyang overall, I would love to see one over the Huai, for earlier history. It has been hard for me to really get a great geographical and REAL historical understanding of China long before it became China, because there is so much mythologized "history", and extreme bias towards one small part of China. I know there is a lot of Chinese scholarship done on the so-called "Yi", the people to the east who weren't Hua during the Shang and Zhou, but I've found almost none of it in English. Were they a different cultural group to the Longshan, or were the Huaiyi the Longshan's successors? How did the Huaiyi in particular become the kingdoms that Sinicized in the Spring and Autumn period? Like, historically, not just what the Chinese historians say, but what is backed up with archeology and numismatics and things of that sort. I know of the Xu and Xue and Wu kingdoms, how did they coalesce into kingdoms, and what happened to them after conquered by Qi and Wu, and then the Yue, and Chu? Were they just assimilated, and became outright Hua? Or did they retain a lot of cultural distinction, like the Greeks even during all the time of Roman control? I know that the region, and just across the Yangtze, became hugely important in the end of the Spring and Autumn period, and especially in to the Warring States, but I don't really know how. All I can really find is "trade, lots of bronze because they had trade networks south, where the tin comes from". The Three Kingdoms kingdom of Wu is obviously based, at least at first entirely and later economically, around the heart of the old Wu kingdom, and some of old Chu, it is apparent that is the entire reason there WERE three kingdoms (had Wei taken the southeast Shu would have been conquered easily) but there is a big gap in *how* that happens. It just seems to be "well Sun Tzu comes along and teaches the semi-barbarians how to war, and they win, but then other semi-barbarians (Yue) come and they take it, but then the Chu who are good, proper Chinese by this time take it". And that is obviously just...not true. At all. Anyway, a deep-dive into the lower Huai in its earlier history would be really appreciated. Maybe Shandong along with it. Basically everything the Shang thought of as "the eastern barbarians".
It’s difficult to say, think maybe Ukrainian and Russian, The southern languages are much older and mixed with native accents, while northern accent is filled with Mongolian sounds, babaric sounds, the writing is the same, but we cannot communicate with each other
North China (from Beijing to Manchuria) is Altaic land, not Han Chinese anymore. After 2000 years of nomadic invasions most of Han Chinese moved south to Southern China.. Southern Chinese are 100% Han Chinese..
Ha ha! And here I am thinking that the GEOGRAPHY came first! lol The Geography came first; then societies are later created according to the geographical layout. This means that the geography DID NOT so-called "shape the north-south Chinese divide"! The PEOPLE did ... all by themselves ALONE! It is not like Chinese people were a monolith, occupying all of the land; and then up sprung the geography to so-call "divide" the people.
And which event is so Important that we differentiate different eras in before and after ? Just because not everyone is Christian doesn’t mean we need to erase Christianity as on of the most important historical faiths and cultures to exist and it’s influence on history. You’re invited to use you’re own calendar that has cultural significance for you but as a Christian please don’t try to change ours
Yes, I thought of this when I was first starting to build this channel. I personally prefer BCE and CE over BC and AD, and got very close to choosing to use them for my videos. But ultimately I felt that since BC and AD are still predominantly used outside of academic circles, it would be an additional layer of complexity for viewers to deal with, especially since a large percentage of them come from outside of English-speaking countries and may find BCE and CE confusing. Also, philosophically, I don't think Common Era notations make much of a difference compared to BC and AD since either way they revolve around Jesus' birthday. To me they inevitably create an artificial divide between time periods when, to ancient peoples living around the BC to AD transition, this divide did not exist.
Yeah, they have features of both languages and dialects, and in any case the words "language" and "dialect" don't fully capture the complexity involved. My limited understanding of linguistics is that, for this reason, linguists nowadays generally prefer to use "variety" in place of both "language" and "dialect".
Can you do a video about Taiwan, specifically why China never conquered it until the early modern era, despite it being easily within their capabilities to do so. It seems so odd that present day China seems like they'd be prepared to risk WW3 for control of Taiwan, but for litterally thousands of years, ancient and medieval China just didn't care about it.
Why would it be weird? The island housed no civilization, wasn't part of any trade network, and wasn't particularly necessary for any crop or other goods. Once Europeans began to squat, it became clear to the Chinese they needed to control that island to prevent it from becoming a base against them.
@@Gepap3I'm pretty sure there was at least some civilisation there, I mean the native Taiwanese were more than just hunter gatherers. If nothing else, control of Taiwan would mean more people to collect taxes from. But I admit I'm not an expert in this area.
I'll likely touch on Taiwan at some point especially with the ancient and medieval history I'm doing, although Taiwan doesn't feature much in Chinese history until towards the end of the Ming Dynasty.
@@Gepap3such a disgraceful commentary completely disregarding the Austronesian, who mastered oceanic voyage before any other civilization. I pity you.
@@kanojune5754 The Austronesians who moved out of Taiwan were no more adept at sea voyaging than the folks who made it to Australia several tens of thousands of years earlier, given it happened prior to 6000 BC.
I always found value in understanding a regions geographical layout before you could truly comprehend the history and development of their contemporary society. Mountain valleys, rivers, deltas, etc all have crucial roles in divisions and connections alike so it’s eye opening to understand these things. You do an excellent job in accentuating the role of geography in Chinese historical narratives.
Thanks, glad you've found it helpful. With geography especially I think video format works well to show things visually, and reading about them can be much more difficult.
A master class in geopolitics
thanks, appreciate the kind words
glazing
This is so interesting!!! This the way history was taught when I was in school. I'm so glad to have this information in English. I've been studying Chinese history on my own for a while, off and on, this one video made everything fall into place. Also, thank you for pronouncing the Chinese names clearly and slowly. It gives me good chance at being able to learn them. I also like when you break down the names and explain the meaning of different parts like east and west. I like all the maps and how you highlight and add arrows and names when it complements the narration. Keep up the good work!!
Yeah. Maybe we should have gotten a good Chinese history class in jr or sr high in place of one of the 4 US history classes.
Thanks for the feedback, and I'm glad to hear you found this video helpful! Chinese geographical names can be quite dense for non-Chinese speaking audiences, although there are a lot of patterns, rules, and historical continuities with them. Hopefully this video and some of the future ones I'm working on now can help demystify some of this.
Legit one of the most interesting channels on yt, glad this got recommended
Appreciate the support! The algorithm gods absolutely smiled on my channel this week (I think I got 5x more views this week than the previous 1.5 years combined), and great that the algorithm did its job of connecting us.
Fascinating! I know the broad strokes of Chinese history. But you really get into the nitty-gritty battle tactics of certain states, here during the famed Three Kingdoms Period, 三國時代. Keep up the good work! I had vaguely heard about the Huai River, and I knew that Hefei was the capital of Anhui Province. But now I know why Hefei is so important. You filled in so many gaps to my historical knowledge. Thank you! (You should definitely do a video on the importance of the Hexi Corridor (河西走廊) to Chinese history. It's such an underrated part of China that influenced so much of its development, especially the importance of Chang'an as a capital city for almost 1,000 years.)
Thanks for the feedback - I don't have a video dedicated to the Hexi Corridor yet, although my most recent video, which is on the early history of the Northern Wei Dynasty, spends a lot of time on the northwest too. Starting at 6:47 in the video there's a chapter about the overall geography the region including the Hexi Corridor, although mostly in the specific context of early medieval Chinese history.
Sun Quan also became a joke on the Chinese internet because of Hefei. He was called "Sun 100,000" by Chinese netizens because he led an army of 100,000 men to attack Hefei many times but failed.
This channel is such a treasure to have found. Really gives you some insight into chinese geography and dynamics. Thank you so much for making these!
My pleasure, glad you enjoy it!
When studying Chinese history in college, we never learned much about the geography and how it affected events. The best we would get was an outline of Asia with some lines drawn over it. This is so enlightening!
Thanks, glad you've found it helpful! And yes so much of this knowledge, not just for China but for places all around the world, is quite lacking.
Came across your channel! It’s very interesting and informative. Please continue with your regular uploads!!!!
thanks, appreciate the support!
You're the best underground history youtuber I've seen in a long time, keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
So cool, fantastic,great podcast, keep up the great work
Thank you! Will do!
Excellent presentation. The history is well scripted and compelling, the maps are very helpful, and the personalities vivid. I hope you get more subscribers and viewers. Truly one of the best historical channels on YT and especially for Chinese history. In 15 minutes you helped me connect numerous small isolated facts I'd known. BTW, I was in China in 1995 and 96, and sailed the 3 Gorges before the dam was started. Very fond of China!
Thanks, and glad you enjoyed it! Right now I'm trying to carefully hone my skillset and lay the foundation for a good reputable and reliable channel rather than focus too much on growth, although over the past week the algorithm has really smiled on me (that's how you found this channel I think), so it's been quite a pleasant surprise and encouragement for the work I've put in so far.
Being able to sail down the Three Gorges before the dam must have been an incredible experience. I was too young to have had the chance to do the cruise before the dam was built, and have still yet to visit anyway. It's supposed to be one of the absolute top destinations in China though, and so cool you got to see it.
Outstanding video! The way you blend geography and history to galvanize stories and lessons is terrific. In 15 minutes I went from having almost zero knowledge to feeling like I had a good handle on both the geography and the broad strokes of the area's history. Thanks!
One of the best video to explain the history of a region with the effects of geograpgy on it.
Thanks, glad you've found it helpful!
.. excellent engaging commentary..one of the most descriptive easy to understand stories of ancient china ever told..cheers..!!..
Thanks, glad you've enjoyed it!
Recommending this channel to everyone I meet
Thanks, appreciate the support!
The Huai River was also the cultural and bio geographic division between N and S in prehistoric times) Palaeolithic and Neolithic). It would be great if you could do a video summarizing the geographical history of those formative times.
Thank you for the insight and feedback, and yes this is something that I want to get into eventually. My plan is to do a series on ancient Chinese history from the beginning to the decline of the Han Dynasty, much like the series on medieval Chinese history that I am working on now, and for the first few videos I want to somehow find a way to weave the archaeological evidence and mythologies side by side into a narrative. It'll be very tricky to write though, but should also be quite rewarding to do.
Very good indeed. I stumbled in another video of the series and couldnt stop hearing it. This is of the same quality.
Thanks, glad you like it!
Just stumbled upon this video today. Excellently presented a topic I never knew was this interesting. Going to check your other content.
Welcome aboard, and hope you enjoy the other stuff too!
Wonderfully informative channel, thank you for putting together such a well-organized presentation. Very glad that the algorithm led me to this, I can't wait to go through your back catalogue!
Thanks, glad you've enjoyed this, and hope you find the other videos helpful too!
These are really great, please continue making them.
thank you very much! i have been intereted in military geography of China for some time. seem to have learned something but not fully grasp the idea. but this video really give me a vivid understanding of the basic analysis.i finally understand the route of marching is heavily constrained by the logistics usually by river transport.
Thanks, glad you've found it helpful! There's a lot of Chinese historical geography that's not immediately obvious on the map, so hopefully this video and other ones I plan to make can help demystify some of that.
You deserve a lot more subscribers.
Thanks, I've mostly been focused on teaching myself how to make videos these 1.5 years and in a way have appreciated the lack of exposure, although with that said the algorithm really picked up this week and the new growth has also been very exciting to see.
@@gatesofkilikien oh wow yeah in the week since I’ve commented you made a ton of progress
This is my second time on your channel, and I enjoyed this one as well. Thank you. China is a big place, and I liked the brief look at some of its geographic diversity.
God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
Thank you for the kind words, and appreciate the support! I grew up reading Chinese history, so I hope I can help introduce a lot of these concepts to an English-speaking audience.
Many thanks for this clear informative lessons!!
Thanks, glad you've found it helipful!
Very nice way you explained with maps
Two river cross Anhui province, my hometown is in Southern of yanze river, we eat rice. the people living between yangze and huai river eat wheat and rice , the people from north huai river eat wheat.
I never fully grasped this key topic until I watched your video.
terrific explanation! please keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
Keep uploading man, you motivate me to make my own channel
Thank you
Thanks for the kind words, and best wishes! It's definitely been quite rewarding for me and I've learned a lot in the process.
Under rated channel
Thanks! Hopefully I can keep building on what I have so far.
Fascinating stuff
thanks, yes all this is very interesting stuff, and my goal is to help bring it to a wider audience
Absolutely fantastic. Thank you so much
Fantastic job!
Thank you very much!
you remind me of the channel of prometeus about history, and I was interessed for chinese history, but didn't have an great start, this may help me understand more chinese history, thank you
Thanks, appreciate the support!
as a native hefeinese, great video, you explained extremely well.
Thanks! Always great to hear from locals of the places I write about.
Great channel 👍
Thank you 👍
Bravo! 👏🏼
守江必守淮，终于精确懂为什么了，多谢！
Superb
Thanks 🤗
very imformative
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks
Thank you too!
Very good.
Thanks!
Interesting video on China
This presentation of how China's geography affected a period of its ancient history is very interesting and very helpful. Considering the geographical exigencies alone, the resources and technical skills needed to contend in these continental struggles must have been vast. So much ongoing conflict! It reminds me of European history. Thank you.
Nice
Thanks!
Your new video on Xiangyang was the first of yours I had seen, and am now watching many of them. Now that you have gotten into a pretty deep history of Nanyang overall, I would love to see one over the Huai, for earlier history. It has been hard for me to really get a great geographical and REAL historical understanding of China long before it became China, because there is so much mythologized "history", and extreme bias towards one small part of China. I know there is a lot of Chinese scholarship done on the so-called "Yi", the people to the east who weren't Hua during the Shang and Zhou, but I've found almost none of it in English. Were they a different cultural group to the Longshan, or were the Huaiyi the Longshan's successors? How did the Huaiyi in particular become the kingdoms that Sinicized in the Spring and Autumn period? Like, historically, not just what the Chinese historians say, but what is backed up with archeology and numismatics and things of that sort. I know of the Xu and Xue and Wu kingdoms, how did they coalesce into kingdoms, and what happened to them after conquered by Qi and Wu, and then the Yue, and Chu? Were they just assimilated, and became outright Hua? Or did they retain a lot of cultural distinction, like the Greeks even during all the time of Roman control?
I know that the region, and just across the Yangtze, became hugely important in the end of the Spring and Autumn period, and especially in to the Warring States, but I don't really know how. All I can really find is "trade, lots of bronze because they had trade networks south, where the tin comes from". The Three Kingdoms kingdom of Wu is obviously based, at least at first entirely and later economically, around the heart of the old Wu kingdom, and some of old Chu, it is apparent that is the entire reason there WERE three kingdoms (had Wei taken the southeast Shu would have been conquered easily) but there is a big gap in *how* that happens. It just seems to be "well Sun Tzu comes along and teaches the semi-barbarians how to war, and they win, but then other semi-barbarians (Yue) come and they take it, but then the Chu who are good, proper Chinese by this time take it". And that is obviously just...not true. At all.
Anyway, a deep-dive into the lower Huai in its earlier history would be really appreciated. Maybe Shandong along with it. Basically everything the Shang thought of as "the eastern barbarians".
這視頻的製作很好,有否中文版？
谢谢，和视频有关的写作我都用英文，现在还没有中文版本。
Can you do Vietnam next, Vietnam is very similar to China in North-South divide.
Thanks for the suggestion, and yes I can work on adding more discussions of Vietnamese geography to future videos.
Can't properly teach conquest/conflict history without maps and explanation of the terrain.
Hefei.. What is it good for?..🎵
How do you feel about the growing chinese american rivalry?
Wow.
🙂
@@gatesofkilikien s
The differences are existed because of the living environment and limited mobility in ancient times.
Existential threat hefei city for Sun Quan
Are those people speak/spoke different dialects of Chinese, or different languages?
It’s difficult to say, think maybe Ukrainian and Russian, The southern languages are much older and mixed with native accents, while northern accent is filled with Mongolian sounds, babaric sounds, the writing is the same, but we cannot communicate with each other
合肥名字原来这么来的
North China (from Beijing to Manchuria) is Altaic land, not Han Chinese anymore. After 2000 years of nomadic invasions most of Han Chinese moved south to Southern China.. Southern Chinese are 100% Han Chinese..
U know nothing about China.north han r pure han
Southside when we ride, come equipped with game 🇭🇰
I wish China was two different countries, north and south.
That would not be optimal
So do you think USA divided into south Confederate States and north United States is good？
never going to happen
I feel like the north always wins
The only thing they win in is mining coal 😹
@@indubitablyso7874han Chinese come from north
yeah, wins in terrible air pollution and poverty
Big dump mountain
Ha ha!
And here I am thinking that the GEOGRAPHY came first! lol
The Geography came first; then societies are later created according to the geographical layout.
This means that the geography DID NOT so-called "shape the north-south Chinese divide"!
The PEOPLE did ... all by themselves ALONE!
It is not like Chinese people were a monolith, occupying all of the land; and then up sprung the geography to so-call "divide" the people.
It's BCE and CE, not BC and AD. Much more correct. Not everyone is Christian in our world.
And which event is so Important that we differentiate different eras in before and after ?
Just because not everyone is Christian doesn’t mean we need to erase Christianity as on of the most important historical faiths and cultures to exist and it’s influence on history. You’re invited to use you’re own calendar that has cultural significance for you but as a Christian please don’t try to change ours
Yes, I thought of this when I was first starting to build this channel. I personally prefer BCE and CE over BC and AD, and got very close to choosing to use them for my videos. But ultimately I felt that since BC and AD are still predominantly used outside of academic circles, it would be an additional layer of complexity for viewers to deal with, especially since a large percentage of them come from outside of English-speaking countries and may find BCE and CE confusing.
Also, philosophically, I don't think Common Era notations make much of a difference compared to BC and AD since either way they revolve around Jesus' birthday. To me they inevitably create an artificial divide between time periods when, to ancient peoples living around the BC to AD transition, this divide did not exist.
"Varieties of Chinese", is this another kind of avoiding to say that these are different languages?
Yeah, they have features of both languages and dialects, and in any case the words "language" and "dialect" don't fully capture the complexity involved. My limited understanding of linguistics is that, for this reason, linguists nowadays generally prefer to use "variety" in place of both "language" and "dialect".
@@gatesofkilikien that sounds like a cop out to me.
😢I heard Chinglish accent
Mutually unintelligible?? dawg you’re racist to other Chinese people that’s fkn wild
How is mentioning language differences racist? Mutually unintelligible means that speakers of those languages can't understand each other.
Huh? How is a statement of fact racist? They are separate languages after all.
I can only conclude that you are not very bright.
Glory to the Chinese Racw
Can you do a video about Taiwan, specifically why China never conquered it until the early modern era, despite it being easily within their capabilities to do so. It seems so odd that present day China seems like they'd be prepared to risk WW3 for control of Taiwan, but for litterally thousands of years, ancient and medieval China just didn't care about it.
Why would it be weird? The island housed no civilization, wasn't part of any trade network, and wasn't particularly necessary for any crop or other goods. Once Europeans began to squat, it became clear to the Chinese they needed to control that island to prevent it from becoming a base against them.
@@Gepap3I'm pretty sure there was at least some civilisation there, I mean the native Taiwanese were more than just hunter gatherers. If nothing else, control of Taiwan would mean more people to collect taxes from. But I admit I'm not an expert in this area.
I'll likely touch on Taiwan at some point especially with the ancient and medieval history I'm doing, although Taiwan doesn't feature much in Chinese history until towards the end of the Ming Dynasty.
@@Gepap3such a disgraceful commentary completely disregarding the Austronesian, who mastered oceanic voyage before any other civilization. I pity you.
@@kanojune5754 The Austronesians who moved out of Taiwan were no more adept at sea voyaging than the folks who made it to Australia several tens of thousands of years earlier, given it happened prior to 6000 BC.