Hey folks, I had too many sources for this episode for the comment word count so I've put them on a google document linked below: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1BP9kZ9y4dtdB0yy-qXrNzWcVjAYCv6-a?usp=sharing
How could someone be so stupid choosing a title for their video? You can see that coherence and study are not the focus of the "historian", what a waste
It's always so amusing to observe all the contortions and euphemisms used by bourgeois archeologists like "increasing inequality" to avoid the same undeniable truth. Thus was the emergence of CLASS SOCIETY, where a small minority of warriors and priests had seized power by violence, and established slavery on the basis of the development of agriculture. (Can't have slaves in hunter gatherer societies. Can't produce sufficient surplus and it's always a bad idea to give hunting weapons to slaves. Slavery can only emerge based on agriculture.) The primary duty of bourgeois archeology and anthropology is to deny the existence of pre-class matriarchal and fratriarchal egalitarian societies, and to obfuscate the emergence and existence of class societies divided into exploiters and exploited. It's never good for the capitalist rulers who pay the salaries of these so-called archaeologists and anthropologists, to expose the historic roots of the present class society. In particular in the case of anthropology it's really dubious that it should be considered a "science" at all given the amount of absolutely dishonest manipulation. It's more akin to some form of alchemy, for hire to the highest bidder.
Why not do both?... Actually id likely be distracted from the images on the video. So best to wait but then again the narrations are easily understandable. Either way enjoy! 💯
@@Handles-R-Lame "when I'm off doing chores" means "when I am doing chores", so it will be when doing both! :) I'm guessing an Irish or UK dialect typed that one
This is amazing! Would be pretty cool if eventually there was a playlist for each of the cradles of civilization, which I’m addition to Mesopotamia and China would include Egypt, the Indus Valley, the Olmec, and the Norte Chico. Would be cool to learn about my Olmec ancestors, though it would probably be best if it were left for last, along with Norte Chico, so by the time you get to it there will be a bit more information known about these relatively poorly understood civilizations.
seriously doubt this guy would put a serious effort into natives of the americas. he seems to lack the sensitivity to appreciate races outside of his own
It's very nice to see Fushanzhuang being mentioned! My dad is from there, and it is nowadays a village of not more than a couple thousand people. Never thought I'd hear it mentioned in any kind of interesting context.
@@HOXHOXHOX don't confuse it with the fringes of the fringes in Vietnam and what does it have to do with being proud of seing his dad village mentionned?
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Im really loving this birth of china series! I hope it continues for a long time to come. Curious about 2 main things, A) how much "traditional historiography" will be covered going forward. Im hoping very little personally. I hope/expect this video series to stick purely to the archaeology. And B) how the next video(s) will be divided in terms of years covered. Will this next video cover the pre-erlitou culture or cover it itself? Personally, I think an entire video on the 3000BC-2000BC period is very possible, so I hope it takes that narrower focus. Leave the Erlitou culture for a video further down.
One thing I want to point out is that for some illustrations showing the burial of King (leaders) of Liangzhu or Lingjiatan, the king is shown naked with jade ornaments. This is not likely as there are already evidence showing intricate fabrics can be manufactured at that time. The king should be buried in glossy silk or other kind of fabrics with complex patterns that echo with the jade ornaments.
I've been curious since the last video in this series, but this title makes me even more so. Have you read David Graeber and David Wengrow's 'the dawn of everything: A new history of humanity'? I'd love to get your perspective on it. I found it a fascinating and uplifting read, but I don't really have the background to judge the validity of it's arguments as a law student.
Extraordinary contribution to what we currently know about early pre-Chinese culture. Really appreciate the various sources you quote, including Chinese archeologists. I'm always surprised when I start comparing dates between proto-China & the world's other river cultures. I need to remind myself that the climatic conditions in the Far East are NOT conducive to preservation of materials. The Nile Valley & even the land between 2 rivers with their unpredictable flooding are much drier -- bordering on desert. So knowing, for example that Egyptian Dynasties had come & gone long before what could be called "China" existed, or other aspects of the timeline have to be viewed in that context. We'll have a HUGE amount of re-evaluation to do as more evidence arises -- from Paleolithic to some of the well-known eras. Thanks for giving such detail & I'm eager to see what's next.
Once, some guy in Reddit argued that Shang Dynasty was some fishing villages and Xia is imaginary. I'm not Chinese but it it's just so insulting to all of Asia . I didn't know that archaeology can be racist.
@@Seisoks Western archeologists always downplay Chinese civilization, Shang didn't just pop out of nowhere, there had to be a "Xia culture" there before that, some people even claim "Chinese" never existed and were all "northern peoples" from Mongolia/Siberia which is nonsense, it is definitely insulting
@@danielzhang1916 Fyi I'm from ASEAN. Tell me about it, bro. There is some political propaganda bs on going inside the western archaeology school of thought. Like glazing Roman as the center of the world, and blatantly disregarding Indian and Chinese civilizations of the time.
You should have mentioned the identities of each culture, for instance Daxi being associated with the ancestors of the Miao, Dapenkeng being associated with the early Austronesians and Yangshao often associated with the long process of partition into the proto-Tibetics and proto-Sinitics.
. some references to possible human/child sacrifices were made and I wonder whether these were not specifically referred to due to accusations of "poor anthropology" - see below for some commentators preferring the term "heirarchy" to "inequality" - although even "slavory/castism" would have been ok for me!!
fantastically high quality video, but please invest in a better mic. a lot of words just fade into nothing and it makes it really hard to follow along! good job tho on everything else
Reasonably sure this is an AI / TTS narrator. Every sentence follows the exact same tonal pattern- low, high until the last word, low- and every single one is in the exact same tones. If you listen at higher speed it's inhumanly uniform.
@@nobody687 I think it is rather connected to a surplus of food and with that the possibility for individuals to specialize. This started the structuring of society and introduced roles - such as leaders.
@tomsaltner3011 Even hunter gathers have a leader. All groups of humans have leaders. What led to civilization was when someone produced beer in high amounts and set up a place to trade it. That's my theory. It's logical,
Was the title written by US state department? Certainly inequality did not start in China, or better it would be impossible to know but we can guess it started in tbe first human community. Did China have the first human community?
The name makes more sense if you watched the previous video. He is saying that in the context of the more egalitarian culture that this culture supplanted.
It’s hard to believe that China’s archaeology is better than United States. As a matter of fact the United States archaeology is the laughing stock of the archaeological world. We are still covering up a genocide so we don’t really talk about what’s in the ground. .
No...agriculture has not too much to do with it. When a tribe grows too large and so ruling/solving problems becomes more difficult and time-consuming and demanding different skills, then a 'prime leader/premier/prime-minister/king/chef=sheriff=shariff-chief/boss, etc.. first chosen but soon (the family is used to special treatments and wealth) became a heriditary lucrative job. Working/fighting was no longer needed. 24hours protection was requiered. In no time an 'elite-group' with special treatment and beneficials was established. In my opinion, an automatic irreversable mechanisme. Also...after wars, the captured 'non-humans' served as dispensable slaves. The lowest 'class', the 'dalith's', the deplorables.
The reason for growth might have been 1)fertile population 2)fertile soil and nature 3)an agressive attitude and hunger for wealth and power 4)'sharing' goods and food was not a cherished lifestyle, certainly not with foreigners. Anything changed in our attitude?
@@JuliaZuckerberg possible....we will never know 2hat really halsppened. That is the beauty of it: we all can assume, think, learn, associate... but the truth lies in the faraway past and even then....Who knows exactly what is going on right now on all fronts and behind the scenes? Noone!
We see in written records that often aristocracy formed from warriors. As victorious warriors, these families were honoured with lands and authority, which led to the development of a warrior caste as father passed this warrior expectation onto sons.
@@MackerelCat obvious and logical. Even within animal packs. This is an automatical procedure. But terrible for the great majority, enduring their enslavement under that 'nobility. And we...the deplorables....admire them, obey them, serve them from early in the morning till early in the morning. From being born till death comes to take them away.
Millets are many species. They are drought resistant and hardy. Growing in cold, hot climates and probably climates with diurnal temperature variations. They were independently domesticated in different parts of the world. China, Africa and perhaps other locations. Yes, it is still consumed. Gluten free.
Now why do you use the word “inequality” as if the other civilizations are somehow “equal” of some sort? Kinda racist there. Greeks, Egypt, Sumerians, and India developed similar elite class system and some people have more privileges than others. The concept of everyone is “equal” was never institutionalized. I know, what about “equal rights” in the US ? You say….but is it even really? We advertise that we all have equal rights, but throughout US history this “equality” is only for certain groups of people.
I wonder if inequality didn't have other sources. Perhaps prior inequalities which are less archaeologically visible just become more visible with the change to agriculture. Or perhaps the sheer fact of agricultural surpluses produced inequality. Some land might have just been better than other land, enriching its holders, and some people may have just been better at exploiting their land than others, enriching them. One hole in this hypothesis is the fact that people may very well have known exactly which lands were good for planting before agriculture took off. They could have noticed which gathering areas year on year were the best. Could this have translated to knowing which farmland was best? Considering the evolution of domestic plants, there was ample room for people to both notice how plants grew best and guide that development. It's an open question how intentional domestication was.
@@tomsaltner3011 there were no guqin, only guzheng in a few sections. You can obviously hear shakuhachi, taiko, koto, along with their distinctive Iwato scale, those are exclusively japanese.
@@SVAFnemesisThe shakuhachi and koto both came from and derived from Chinese instruments. Shakuhachi is derived from the Chinese Xiao while the Koto is derived from the Chinese Guzheng. Even for the Taiko, historical evidence shows that is comes from China and Korea. So they sound similar. Due to the strong modern Japanese soft power in the West, Chinese stuff are often mistaken for Japanese stuff. All 3 Japanese derivative instruments sound similar to their Chinese origin instruments. You're right about the Iwato scale though.
To jump forward a couple millenia in this video, do you think the family of the Emperor put as much effort in as relative to their position in society?
@@ahumpierrogue137 pretty risky job being emperor in China. But no, he was thinking which noble or relative was gonna kill him for his throne. And being too crazy, not supporting ppl through famines etc would often lead to uprising of peasants, but universal equality of individuals was not a concept.
@@dingodog5677The Germanic people have the fame of being good creating successful societies. They are not appearently so corrupt as other nations. But if you look at the history of Spain, you'll see that the Goths were the most useless rulers. They kept fighting for the throne until they were conquered by mercenaries helped by local population. Some kings only lasted days before being killed. So yes, it can be a risky job. Russian history is similar.
Sorry but EQUALITY was/is not the default in any way, in human history or now. So your premise ( the dawn of inequality) is absurd 😅😅.... equality is the anomaly, it must be forced and enforced. Inequality is the norm, the status quo... for many reasons: genetics, resources, physical prowess, intelligence, social cohesion, etc...so get off your high horse. 😂
If this is a dig at Chinese society and some sense of Western superiority not only has inequality been a problem in social systems throughout world history, but Western societies have always struggle with equality just the same and to this day classism is still a thing. And let’s be real social issues are still prevalent with a focus on traditional hierarchies that were never truly divested
No They Weren't They All Were Yellow skinned AllAsians Originated From the Middle of Northern china And Eastern Southern Siberia Chinese Mangolians, Manchus, Huns Turks, Japanese Were One people
@@tomsaltner3011 Out of Africa Theory Is Just A Theory And Not Scinficaly Proven At All oldest Human Fosils found in Africa Only Because Of Its climate condition That Preserved It Unlike snowy ice Filled Siberia and Humid Climate countries that is impossible to find human Fosils Under The Ice!!!
not knocking the information in the video, but why does every second TH-cam documentary narrator have to speak in the same repetitive "up to down" cadence? You sound like bored schoolkid reading from a text book. I tapped out after 10 minutes
It's always so amusing to observe all the contortions and euphemisms used by bourgeois archeologists like "increasing inequality" to avoid the same undeniable truth. Thus was the emergence of CLASS SOCIETY, where a small minority of warriors and priests had seized power by violence, and established slavery on the basis of the development of agriculture. (Can't have slaves in hunter gatherer societies. Can't produce sufficient surplus and it's always a bad idea to give hunting weapons to slaves. Slavery can only emerge based on agriculture.) The primary duty of bourgeois archeology and anthropology is to deny the existence of pre-class matriarchal and fratriarchal egalitarian societies, and to obfuscate the emergence and existence of class societies divided into exploiters and exploited. It's never good for the capitalist rulers who pay the salaries of these so-called archaeologists and anthropologists, to expose the historic roots of the present class society. In particular in the case of anthropology it's really dubious that it should be considered a "science" at all given the amount of absolutely dishonest manipulation. It's more akin to some form of alchemy, for hire to the highest bidder.
I want to share a kind of weird opinion or idea. How is it fair, that China and other very populous places got all of the technology we invented? When you think about it, the only thing Europe had going for it is their greater technology. China had a looot more people but they were stagnant and basically ignored inventing stuff. In today's age Europe is falling behind significantly and it seems China could very easily end up pretty much just enslaving us because of the amount of people they have. Basically in the end, your power matter entirely on how many people you have because no matter what you will always end up catching up by pretty much being given the superior technology of others. I can't explain it well at all, it's really quite weird. Europe was superior thanks to technology, China was stagnant and ignored inventing. But because China has so many people, they basically can get all of the European technology and industrialize and turn into a modern power super quickly and at that point they start beating us because if you have more or less equal technology then population is the only thing that matters. It kind of annoys me that we are scared of a nation which we could beat into the ground over and over easily just 2 centuries ago but they just simply used the path to modernism that Europe created by being better inventors and now they are our big boogeyman. Technology is easy to copy, steal and trade for but you can't just suddenly become a nation with the culture and environment that leads to massive amounts of people. I'm not trying to hate on China or anything it's just a thing that keeps on ocassionaly popping into mind and somewhat irritating me.
@@liuxaun8385 Oh yeah we totally didn't. China was stagnating for 2000 years meanwhile Europe was on a constant path forwards and then went ahead to conquer the world. If there wasn't a billion of you because of your large fertile lands, you would have ended up just like Africa lol
@@drachenfeIs From a country in 1300 that did not attempt to progress whatsoever since that time and got their teeth kicked in by countries that actually innovated and kept on progressing. If none of the "westoid" technology was shared then 90% of the world would still be in a limbo of a weird mix of medieaval and at best reneissance-like enlightened knowledge. As far as reality goes. "westoids" invented exactly the kind of things that no one else did and we actually used it in practice, maybe the chinese SUPER power great great ancestors should have got off their ass in their abundant rice fields and cared about making better conditions. The Chinese have been abusing their wonderful growing conditions and rice for millenia to live a good but stagnant life. Meanwhile Europe was constantly going through plagues, starvation and competing with other tiny neighboring regions just cause they wanted each other dead. This lead to the obvious dominance of "westoids"
Hey folks, I had too many sources for this episode for the comment word count so I've put them on a google document linked below:
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1BP9kZ9y4dtdB0yy-qXrNzWcVjAYCv6-a?usp=sharing
Thank you for listing openly your sources, both outside and in the videos themselves (including for each cited moment with a little footnote number)
Thank you!!!
FINALLY! THANK YOU!
How could someone be so stupid choosing a title for their video? You can see that coherence and study are not the focus of the "historian", what a waste
It's always so amusing to observe all the contortions and euphemisms used by bourgeois archeologists like "increasing inequality" to avoid the same undeniable truth. Thus was the emergence of CLASS SOCIETY, where a small minority of warriors and priests had seized power by violence, and established slavery on the basis of the development of agriculture. (Can't have slaves in hunter gatherer societies. Can't produce sufficient surplus and it's always a bad idea to give hunting weapons to slaves. Slavery can only emerge based on agriculture.)
The primary duty of bourgeois archeology and anthropology is to deny the existence of pre-class matriarchal and fratriarchal egalitarian societies, and to obfuscate the emergence and existence of class societies divided into exploiters and exploited.
It's never good for the capitalist rulers who pay the salaries of these so-called archaeologists and anthropologists, to expose the historic roots of the present class society.
In particular in the case of anthropology it's really dubious that it should be considered a "science" at all given the amount of absolutely dishonest manipulation. It's more akin to some form of alchemy, for hire to the highest bidder.
Oh I am so stoked to listen to this later when I'm off doing chores
Why not do both?...
Actually id likely be distracted from the images on the video. So best to wait but then again the narrations are easily understandable.
Either way enjoy! 💯
@@Handles-R-Lame "when I'm off doing chores" means "when I am doing chores", so it will be when doing both! :) I'm guessing an Irish or UK dialect typed that one
@@walksinrainSouthern US as well. Possibly related to a British lingual holdover? Idk.
This is amazing! Would be pretty cool if eventually there was a playlist for each of the cradles of civilization, which I’m addition to Mesopotamia and China would include Egypt, the Indus Valley, the Olmec, and the Norte Chico.
Would be cool to learn about my Olmec ancestors, though it would probably be best if it were left for last, along with Norte Chico, so by the time you get to it there will be a bit more information known about these relatively poorly understood civilizations.
Try Made In History. They seem to have a lot of the kind of thing you are looking for.
Ancient americas made a video about the Olmecs I believe
seriously doubt this guy would put a serious effort into natives of the americas. he seems to lack the sensitivity to appreciate races outside of his own
Norte Chico is so tragically undertalked about! Not many people no civilization in South America is nearly as old as Sumer and Egypt.
You forgot to mention Minoan/Greece
It's very nice to see Fushanzhuang being mentioned! My dad is from there, and it is nowadays a village of not more than a couple thousand people. Never thought I'd hear it mentioned in any kind of interesting context.
@@HOXHOXHOX don't confuse it with the fringes of the fringes in Vietnam and what does it have to do with being proud of seing his dad village mentionned?
@@HOXHOXHOXyou have to stop racist
@@HOXHOXHOXstop being a silly racist
@@HOXHOXHOX He's sounds several magnitudes more honorable and educated than you.
@@HOXHOXHOXyou must've just passed 23:20🤣
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Incredibly detailed, hats off to all the research and work done!
Neolithic history is the best and the music is just plain amazing!
Cant wait to listen to this later today man im looking forward to it
Perfect for my Sunday night chilldown -- thanks man!
Im really loving this birth of china series! I hope it continues for a long time to come.
Curious about 2 main things, A) how much "traditional historiography" will be covered going forward. Im hoping very little personally. I hope/expect this video series to stick purely to the archaeology.
And B) how the next video(s) will be divided in terms of years covered. Will this next video cover the pre-erlitou culture or cover it itself? Personally, I think an entire video on the 3000BC-2000BC period is very possible, so I hope it takes that narrower focus. Leave the Erlitou culture for a video further down.
This channel has quickly become one of my favorites ever
Thank you for the new vid! Glad to see more East Asian history out there.
The more things changes, the more they've stayed the same...a fantastic video as ever!
One thing I want to point out is that for some illustrations showing the burial of King (leaders) of Liangzhu or Lingjiatan, the king is shown naked with jade ornaments. This is not likely as there are already evidence showing intricate fabrics can be manufactured at that time. The king should be buried in glossy silk or other kind of fabrics with complex patterns that echo with the jade ornaments.
Looking forward to listening to the next episode of "The Birth of China"!
I've been curious since the last video in this series, but this title makes me even more so. Have you read David Graeber and David Wengrow's 'the dawn of everything: A new history of humanity'? I'd love to get your perspective on it. I found it a fascinating and uplifting read, but I don't really have the background to judge the validity of it's arguments as a law student.
Thank the old gods and new for a new histocrat documentary❤
Extraordinary contribution to what we currently know about early pre-Chinese culture.
Really appreciate the various sources you quote, including Chinese archeologists.
I'm always surprised when I start comparing dates between proto-China & the world's other river cultures. I need to remind myself that the climatic conditions in the Far East are NOT conducive to preservation of materials. The Nile Valley & even the land between 2 rivers with their unpredictable flooding are much drier -- bordering on desert.
So knowing, for example that Egyptian Dynasties had come & gone long before what could be called "China" existed, or other aspects of the timeline have to be viewed in that context.
We'll have a HUGE amount of re-evaluation to do as more evidence arises -- from Paleolithic to some of the well-known eras.
Thanks for giving such detail & I'm eager to see what's next.
Once, some guy in Reddit argued that Shang Dynasty was some fishing villages and Xia is imaginary. I'm not Chinese but it it's just so insulting to all of Asia .
I didn't know that archaeology can be racist.
@@Seisoks Western archeologists always downplay Chinese civilization, Shang didn't just pop out of nowhere, there had to be a "Xia culture" there before that, some people even claim "Chinese" never existed and were all "northern peoples" from Mongolia/Siberia which is nonsense, it is definitely insulting
@@danielzhang1916 Fyi I'm from ASEAN.
Tell me about it, bro. There is some political propaganda bs on going inside the western archaeology school of thought. Like glazing Roman as the center of the world, and blatantly disregarding Indian and Chinese civilizations of the time.
This is really well made. Ur voice is great, man. Liked and subbed
You should have mentioned the identities of each culture, for instance Daxi being associated with the ancestors of the Miao, Dapenkeng being associated with the early Austronesians and Yangshao often associated with the long process of partition into the proto-Tibetics and proto-Sinitics.
. some references to possible human/child sacrifices were made and I wonder whether these were not specifically referred to due to accusations of "poor anthropology" - see below for some commentators preferring the term "heirarchy" to "inequality" - although even "slavory/castism" would have been ok for me!!
Thanks!
Very interesting! Unfortunately, to me the monotone emphasis sounds a bit off…
fantastically high quality video, but please invest in a better mic. a lot of words just fade into nothing and it makes it really hard to follow along! good job tho on everything else
@@Dedog0 It is the narrator, not the tech.
Reasonably sure this is an AI / TTS narrator. Every sentence follows the exact same tonal pattern- low, high until the last word, low- and every single one is in the exact same tones. If you listen at higher speed it's inhumanly uniform.
The narration is very sing song
Dangit, I really would've wanted to watch this but frankly, your speaking tone with the weird up and down spikes is just too annoying to listen to..
Protection from other groups is what lead to rulers. Just like it always does
所以當人類能把人類視為一個整體的時候，就沒有藉口了。
@@nobody687 I think it is rather connected to a surplus of food and with that the possibility for individuals to specialize. This started the structuring of society and introduced roles - such as leaders.
@tomsaltner3011 Even hunter gathers have a leader. All groups of humans have leaders. What led to civilization was when someone produced beer in high amounts and set up a place to trade it. That's my theory. It's logical,
The accent is fine. The chant-like delivery could use some variation.
Perfect timing
We're not worthy we're not worthy❤❤❤❤
We are tho
This progression of development and their telltale material culture items and emerging social hierarchy, is typical for all societies everywhere.
So good😊
Histocrat = the cure for insomnia. In a good way!!
Walter! This isn't a guy who built the railroads here...
I am the walrus?
Was the title written by US state department?
Certainly inequality did not start in China, or better it would be impossible to know but we can guess it started in tbe first human community. Did China have the first human community?
The name makes more sense if you watched the previous video. He is saying that in the context of the more egalitarian culture that this culture supplanted.
@@SarahTheRebelOfficial that makes more sense. thanks for the reply
中国的什么都是在西方传来的，母系社会是西方传来的，父系社会也是西方传来的，青铜铁器，包括人也是在西方走来的，还有现在的共产主义
Is there anywhere where people could purchase some of the illustrations?
You had me at bone & stone items 😫
Thanks ❤
It’s hard to believe that China’s archaeology is better than United States. As a matter of fact the United States archaeology is the laughing stock of the archaeological world. We are still covering up a genocide so we don’t really talk about what’s in the ground. .
Mr Beat recommended this channel.
Informative
amazing video! however i think it'd be very helpful to include the corresponding Chinese characters of the proper names in the subtitles :D
When do we get the next episode! ❤❤❤
Wow weird thing flying in the sky starting around 18:30. Looks like a plane?
Chinese history is becoming my Roman Empire
It is a shame it isn't more accessible, because there is tons of good stuff in there.
Also the politics don't help, the comments here will be spicy.
Yuck
I’ve never seen a doc on a culture with a title that includes inequality. f the west and these people with these micro aggression titles.
TH-cam is filled with these frauds who like to brand them self as "educational channel." Its all a fucking psyop.
Awesome
10:02 Hey hey it's my hometown Xi'an! Wooooo!
What’s up with the periodic compressed high tone accent in the narration?
"Dawn of inequality"
No...agriculture has not too much to do with it. When a tribe grows too large and so ruling/solving problems becomes more difficult and time-consuming and demanding different skills, then a 'prime leader/premier/prime-minister/king/chef=sheriff=shariff-chief/boss, etc.. first chosen but soon (the family is used to special treatments and wealth) became a heriditary lucrative job. Working/fighting was no longer needed. 24hours protection was requiered. In no time an 'elite-group' with special treatment and beneficials was established. In my opinion, an automatic irreversable mechanisme. Also...after wars, the captured 'non-humans' served as dispensable slaves. The lowest 'class', the 'dalith's', the deplorables.
The reason for growth might have been 1)fertile population 2)fertile soil and nature 3)an agressive attitude and hunger for wealth and power 4)'sharing' goods and food was not a cherished lifestyle, certainly not with foreigners. Anything changed in our attitude?
Yes or just foreign invaders
@@JuliaZuckerberg possible....we will never know 2hat really halsppened. That is the beauty of it: we all can assume, think, learn, associate... but the truth lies in the faraway past and even then....Who knows exactly what is going on right now on all fronts and behind the scenes? Noone!
We see in written records that often aristocracy formed from warriors. As victorious warriors, these families were honoured with lands and authority, which led to the development of a warrior caste as father passed this warrior expectation onto sons.
@@MackerelCat obvious and logical. Even within animal packs. This is an automatical procedure. But terrible for the great majority, enduring their enslavement under that 'nobility. And we...the deplorables....admire them, obey them, serve them from early in the morning till early in the morning. From being born till death comes to take them away.
At the end of every sentence you raise the pitch of your voice.
Wove twu wove
woa this is just like Skyrim
Is millet different to wheat? Do we still eat it?
Millets are many species. They are drought resistant and hardy. Growing in cold, hot climates and probably climates with diurnal temperature variations. They were independently domesticated in different parts of the world. China, Africa and perhaps other locations.
Yes, it is still consumed. Gluten free.
It is sold on stalk for bird feed. Check it.
What about the vast amount of ancient pyramids all over China? No mention?
Bit too early. Those would most likely be in the next episode.
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2:39
Now why do you use the word “inequality” as if the other civilizations are somehow “equal” of some sort? Kinda racist there. Greeks, Egypt, Sumerians, and India developed similar elite class system and some people have more privileges than others. The concept of everyone is “equal” was never institutionalized. I know, what about “equal rights” in the US ? You say….but is it even really? We advertise that we all have equal rights, but throughout US history this “equality” is only for certain groups of people.
Next episode: the Birth of United States, Genocide of Natives
How did they use those tools with the hole? Seems very modern like it locks into a wooden handle, but idk.
Galo de Barcelos
I dislike the lilting way in which you speak. Makes it difficult to pay attention to what you are saying.
I wonder if inequality didn't have other sources. Perhaps prior inequalities which are less archaeologically visible just become more visible with the change to agriculture.
Or perhaps the sheer fact of agricultural surpluses produced inequality. Some land might have just been better than other land, enriching its holders, and some people may have just been better at exploiting their land than others, enriching them.
One hole in this hypothesis is the fact that people may very well have known exactly which lands were good for planting before agriculture took off. They could have noticed which gathering areas year on year were the best. Could this have translated to knowing which farmland was best? Considering the evolution of domestic plants, there was ample room for people to both notice how plants grew best and guide that development.
It's an open question how intentional domestication was.
funny robogob fail.
a british accent yet cannot pronounce 'flourish' and a cadence more like mandarin.
am I the only one who notices these things?
Do you never misspeak? Plus his pronunciation of some Chinese names is wrong, or changes between times he says it.
Hey NBC, where's the diversity in the interviews, did you only interview black students? Shame on you.
Shit looks like west Africa today 😂
Nice Title, good naming technique.
Truh truh truh trash. Thats the legacy
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Ai voice, can't stand it
Not sure it is AI. That would be much better! It is just a guy reading stubbornly without reflecting the content while doing so...
nice japanese music over a china documentary
@@SVAFnemesis I hear typical Chinese music instead, like from a guqin. Maybe part of the cultural exchange and therefore not so different?
@@tomsaltner3011 there were no guqin, only guzheng in a few sections. You can obviously hear shakuhachi, taiko, koto, along with their distinctive Iwato scale, those are exclusively japanese.
@@SVAFnemesisThe shakuhachi and koto both came from and derived from Chinese instruments. Shakuhachi is derived from the Chinese Xiao while the Koto is derived from the Chinese Guzheng. Even for the Taiko, historical evidence shows that is comes from China and Korea. So they sound similar. Due to the strong modern Japanese soft power in the West, Chinese stuff are often mistaken for Japanese stuff. All 3 Japanese derivative instruments sound similar to their Chinese origin instruments. You're right about the Iwato scale though.
You must have a huge brain ➡️
The way you TALK is so DISTRACTING I can't follow without NOTICING it. It really TAKES ME OUT of the VIDEO.
Turn volume off and use subtitles
Inequality is a modern concept. Things were family or clan based. You got what you put in. Your family would gain the benefits of your aniline.
To jump forward a couple millenia in this video, do you think the family of the Emperor put as much effort in as relative to their position in society?
@@ahumpierrogue137 pretty risky job being emperor in China. But no, he was thinking which noble or relative was gonna kill him for his throne. And being too crazy, not supporting ppl through famines etc would often lead to uprising of peasants, but universal equality of individuals was not a concept.
@@dingodog5677The Germanic people have the fame of being good creating successful societies. They are not appearently so corrupt as other nations. But if you look at the history of Spain, you'll see that the Goths were the most useless rulers. They kept fighting for the throne until they were conquered by mercenaries helped by local population. Some kings only lasted days before being killed. So yes, it can be a risky job. Russian history is similar.
The one mistake of the past.
Ridiculous, this video focuses on woke non sense of "inequalities" and then stupidly wonders why, thumbs down
We Humanitas are weird. Dead is dead. If it's Elon or the worlds poorest man. They are equal at the end
Filial piety is wack af
Dawn of inequality...is that a dei requirement ?
在这里向真正的中国历史爱好者推荐一部关于中国起源的纪录片《何以中国》，出品方是上海东方媒体集团与中国国家文物局。
Sorry but EQUALITY was/is not the default in any way, in human history or now. So your premise ( the dawn of inequality) is absurd 😅😅.... equality is the anomaly, it must be forced and enforced. Inequality is the norm, the status quo... for many reasons: genetics, resources, physical prowess, intelligence, social cohesion, etc...so get off your high horse. 😂
It was probably once in pre-historic times, when families lived completely separate.
inequality is a proud tradition that the chinese have kept at and perfected until this very day
so funny to hear what probally is an american saying this
@@daniloalves1139American or not, china is inequal.
@@daniloalves1139whether their American or not, social inequality has existed as long as humanity.
If this is a dig at Chinese society and some sense of Western superiority not only has inequality been a problem in social systems throughout world history, but Western societies have always struggle with equality just the same and to this day classism is still a thing. And let’s be real social issues are still prevalent with a focus on traditional hierarchies that were never truly divested
Inequality is a feature of all societies above the hunter-gatherer level.
Fun fact. The aboriginals of ancient China were brown skinned.
No They Weren't They All Were Yellow skinned AllAsians Originated From the Middle of Northern china And Eastern Southern Siberia Chinese Mangolians, Manchus, Huns Turks, Japanese Were One people
@@MELUHA-zv1iz How you know? Finally, they came from Africa at some point in time...
@@tomsaltner3011 Out of Africa Theory Is Just A Theory And Not Scinficaly Proven At All oldest Human Fosils found in Africa Only Because Of Its climate condition That Preserved It Unlike snowy ice Filled Siberia and Humid Climate countries that is impossible to find human Fosils Under The Ice!!!
@@tomsaltner3011 Ancectors of Humans Probably Originated In Siberia Russia
@@MELUHA-zv1iz Russia conquered Siberia quite late in history, a bit strange to mention Russia as humanity’s origin…
China number one!
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The premkse is juvenille
not knocking the information in the video, but why does every second TH-cam documentary narrator have to speak in the same repetitive "up to down" cadence? You sound like bored schoolkid reading from a text book. I tapped out after 10 minutes
Why this narrator sound like a baby
What the hell is that accent
Northern England
Strange title. Subtle negativity towards china.
No? It's just pointing out that even at the begining of human civilization we've been oppressing and dividing people
@@jackrabbit7789 No shit sherlock,
@@jackrabbit7789 who's we
i dont oppress anyone
It only makes sense that if you invent raising pigs or growing rice you get buried better..that sounds reasonable to me
whos gonna win, NATO or china?
I refer you to Thucydides.
Poverty lore
Just like medieval Europe. Or America right now.
@@SECONDQUEST Poverty is when you can't afford to live. Inequality is when someone has more than you.
So it is admitted in this video, that the Chinese polity and culture had its origins 6000+ years ago.
You had to politicise this didn’t you…
The dawn of inequality? You can see inequality on the cosmic microwave background. Inequality is where energy comes from.
It's always so amusing to observe all the contortions and euphemisms used by bourgeois archeologists like "increasing inequality" to avoid the same undeniable truth. Thus was the emergence of CLASS SOCIETY, where a small minority of warriors and priests had seized power by violence, and established slavery on the basis of the development of agriculture. (Can't have slaves in hunter gatherer societies. Can't produce sufficient surplus and it's always a bad idea to give hunting weapons to slaves. Slavery can only emerge based on agriculture.)
The primary duty of bourgeois archeology and anthropology is to deny the existence of pre-class matriarchal and fratriarchal egalitarian societies, and to obfuscate the emergence and existence of class societies divided into exploiters and exploited.
It's never good for the capitalist rulers who pay the salaries of these so-called archaeologists and anthropologists, to expose the historic roots of the present class society.
In particular in the case of anthropology it's really dubious that it should be considered a "science" at all given the amount of absolutely dishonest manipulation. It's more akin to some form of alchemy, for hire to the highest bidder.
Average Marxist mad when people don’t view history through his specific lens 100% of the time.
@@Adsper2000bourgeois cheerleader is mad 😂
I got bored 😴😴😴😴
I want to share a kind of weird opinion or idea.
How is it fair, that China and other very populous places got all of the technology we invented?
When you think about it, the only thing Europe had going for it is their greater technology. China had a looot more people but they were stagnant and basically ignored inventing stuff.
In today's age Europe is falling behind significantly and it seems China could very easily end up pretty much just enslaving us because of the amount of people they have. Basically in the end, your power matter entirely on how many people you have because no matter what you will always end up catching up by pretty much being given the superior technology of others.
I can't explain it well at all, it's really quite weird.
Europe was superior thanks to technology, China was stagnant and ignored inventing. But because China has so many people, they basically can get all of the European technology and industrialize and turn into a modern power super quickly and at that point they start beating us because if you have more or less equal technology then population is the only thing that matters. It kind of annoys me that we are scared of a nation which we could beat into the ground over and over easily just 2 centuries ago but they just simply used the path to modernism that Europe created by being better inventors and now they are our big boogeyman. Technology is easy to copy, steal and trade for but you can't just suddenly become a nation with the culture and environment that leads to massive amounts of people.
I'm not trying to hate on China or anything it's just a thing that keeps on ocassionaly popping into mind and somewhat irritating me.
You didn't invent shit.
@@liuxaun8385 Oh yeah we totally didn't. China was stagnating for 2000 years meanwhile Europe was on a constant path forwards and then went ahead to conquer the world. If there wasn't a billion of you because of your large fertile lands, you would have ended up just like Africa lol
where did gunpowder come from westoid?
@@jakubpluhar4914britain =/= europe trailerpark reject
@@drachenfeIs From a country in 1300 that did not attempt to progress whatsoever since that time and got their teeth kicked in by countries that actually innovated and kept on progressing. If none of the "westoid" technology was shared then 90% of the world would still be in a limbo of a weird mix of medieaval and at best reneissance-like enlightened knowledge.
As far as reality goes. "westoids" invented exactly the kind of things that no one else did and we actually used it in practice, maybe the chinese SUPER power great great ancestors should have got off their ass in their abundant rice fields and cared about making better conditions.
The Chinese have been abusing their wonderful growing conditions and rice for millenia to live a good but stagnant life. Meanwhile Europe was constantly going through plagues, starvation and competing with other tiny neighboring regions just cause they wanted each other dead. This lead to the obvious dominance of "westoids"
Chinese people are pretty cool.
Lmao throwing shade on China right from the title.
Pretty brave, the little pinks will turn up soon crying foul.
Nope. It's just the viewers having a variety of political and persucatory delusions.
@@JeffBilkins who?
No, it's literally just describing what's happening.