The Wreck of HMS Victoria - Sticking Straight Out of the Bottom
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 พ.ค. 2024
- Some shipwrecks are famous because they were famous ships. Johnston, Hornet, Musashi, to name a few. Others are famous because of how they ended up on the bottom, like Britannic. And still others are famous because of how plain weird they are.
HMS Victoria is a prime example here. An old battleship that managed to spear into the bottom, more or less straight down. The bow is buried in the mud, while the stern points towards the surface. Somehow, even after well over a century underwater, the ship remains in this position.
She is, as a result, a curiosity. And a popular diving spot, for those experienced enough to try.
Videos on the Wreck:
• HMS Victoria Lebanon 2...
• HMS Victoria
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For context, Admiral Tryon was a very intelligent and forward-thinking officer. He had been trying to change the Royal Navy’s complex, unwieldy, and obsolete system of battle signals, as well as the long standing practice of demanding that captains follow orders to the letter and exercise zero initiative. Tryon wanted his subordinate captains to think for themselves, and had adopted a practice of giving deliberately stupid orders during training to force them to engage their brains. He also had a standing order to all the ships in his fleet that they were to ignore any signal that would result in hazarding a ship. Additionally, Tryon was sick on the day of the disaster, but insisted on carrying out the exercise in spite of his illness, and thus wasn’t at the top of his game.
Tryon was a brilliant commander who had a really bad day, and has been repeatedly scapegoated for it ever since.
I wouldn’t mind seeing full documentary on the man’s life or reading his biography.
@@alanh1406 Drachinifel has some good stuff on Admiral Tryon and the Victoria disaster.
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HMS Victoria - Guide 210
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@@cdfe3388 Intelligence and forward thinking only work if you articulate what you are forward-thinking about instead of embarrassing another officer commanding another ship in front of the entire squadron via signals after he hesitates to execute your vague orders and hopes that you unfuck yourself.
About 10 years ago a diver claimed to have found Admiral Nelson's sword from Trafalgar in a compartment next to Admiral Tryon's cabin, along with other artifacts that Tryon supposedly collected. Apparently the good Admiral was quite a fan of Nelson and collected Nelson memorabilia, none of which the family possesses today, thus it follows to reason that Tryon's collection of Nelson artifacts went to the bottom with Victoria. A model of HMS Victory was removed from the wreck in 2004, so this is at least plausible. Of course, the diver then hid the sword in another part of the wreck to 'keep it safe from looters' and declared they would only hand it over to the British MoD, which is not the worst idea really, but makes me think it is more fish story than real story.
I really wouldn't trust the current MoD with it. Or, come to that, with anything else.
I bet the 100 feet in the mud is perfectly preserved starved of oxygen and microbes and salt!
The vertical orientation is unique but how large Victoria really is and how much of her bow impaled the sea floor stuns me. Always a thumbs up Skynea History. 👍
Speaking of the I-400 Class, I'm Excited for that Video
I believe it is true that at the same time, Adml Tryon walked soundlessly through a reception at his Chelsea (London) home and into his study. seen by so many guests only one account states that he left pools of water. I often passed his house.
TY. This deserved a deeper dive. RN was bound to have such fatal folly somewhere in it's grand lineage , peace to the lost.
The screws are usually made of bronze. I am surprised they have not been liberated. Many wrecks in the South Pacific have been heavily salvaged even though they are marked as war graves.
Guess the Chinese metal scrappers havent found her yet
@@Skinny_El.Funky6.9 She's in the Med, people look at you funny there when you bring in a salvage boat.
Admiral Tyron was quite the trendsetter in many ways in the Royal Navy. It seems inconceivable that he would attempt to maneuver two lines of battleships as he would have a collection of rowboats. We will never know because he went down with his ship. I wonder if there is any documentation of the pre-exercise briefing that should have been held with all the ships' commanders in attendance, to give us a hint as to what the admiral was thinking and trying to achieve.
The officer in charge who ordered the maneuver was seen by his wife in ghostlike form after the disaster ,at home, saying it was all his fault....
Don’t tell me... government offices and the controlled press pushed that truthful story to the public... so the great admirals, the heroes of the empire, were as immaculate as they crown needed them to be?
Too much power in a single imbecile should be the correct story
@@RebeccaCampbell1969 Don't know much about Sir George, do you?
Of course he was…..
Computer says No.
11:07 , to whomever took that pic I give mad props(pun intended lol 😂), it is truly a striking image!!
I'm surprised that scavengers haven't stolen the screws!
There’s a rumor that admiral Nelson’s sword was on the ship when it sank, and is still in it. Her captain apparently looked up to Nelson, and collected memorabilia of him
Victoria cuts a different profile from the usual World War II shipwrecks that you cover, and that's before taking into account how she's been vertically piledriven into the seabed.
Amazing photos
I always click videos about HMS Lawn Dart.
Cool great work Sir
Believe this accident highlighted the problems of mindlessly following orders from superior officers that had become prevalent in the RN the previous century or so and spawned a move to develop more flexibility in command structures. A similar situation in the USN that lost 7 destroyers in a "follow the leader" fiasco off Honda Point, CA in the 1920s.
You obviously know little about the accident off Honda Point. The ships were in a column formation when the navigator in the lead ship turned too early. It had nothing to do with Senior officers giving erroneous orders.
@@patrickmccrann991they were also using Dead reckoning to navigate, but didn’t account for the heavier than normal currents which were caused by recent earthquakes
@patrickmccrann991 Actually I may have over simplified but a major contributing factor at Honda was that the following ships were relying too much on the navigation of the senior officers staff and the followers were not doing enough of their own plotting to discover the errors/differences in the current estimations and the errors in the Point Arguello rdf info upon which the Commander was relying and had disregarded questions of possible deviations.
Referencing the Court of Inquiry the court found "That although the "follow-the-leader" doctrine had been navy policy in matters relating to proper navigation--it must be delineated by common sense". The squadron commander bore the brunt of blame with loss of 150 numbers in list of captains. Although most of the other captains were court martialed most were adjudged not guilty but the Secretary of Navy disapproved the verdicts showing which way the opinion winds were blowing.
Really enjoy your videos and look forward to the next, thankyou!
I feel like the internal deck may have been wood. It would have been easy to repair after a battle. It explains why the decks are gone.
In my home town there are Victoria and Camperdown streets apparently named after these ships..rumor has it that the town planner back in the late nineteenth century was an ex navy man.
Is there an intersection where they cross paths?
@@scotttyson607 Victoria's got to be a dead end....
I always wonder what the fishermen off the Lebanon coast thought the royal navy was trying to do this day by sinking one of their own ships
The film "Kind Hearts and Coronets" portrays the Alec Guinness character as the Admiral ordering the disastrous maneauvre.
One of several Alec Guinness in that film.
And a crab suddenly had a very bad day.
The floor would have been wood, not metal and thus, not very strange that it has rottet away
A very famous story, summed up as 'whoops'.
how can you be more unique?
Glad it's not just me...
Regarding the sinking...
*"OOPS."*
@ 7:02 you point to the front of the ship being the location of the exposed galley entrance, but how can this be if the ship's bow is buried nearly 100 ft. in the mud of the seafloor??
Just curious...
the Russian warship russalka is also standing vertical in the mud.
Есть ещё один корабль находящийся на дне в вертикальном положении, это башенная броненосная лодка «Русалка» - броненосец береговой обороны российского императорского флота, затонувший 1893 года у берегов Финляндии.
The Great Lakes rail ferry Ann Arbor No.5 is also stuck into the bottom like this.
The Russian Rusalka is in the same orientation, can you please do a video of her remarkable state of preservation?
*Looks like she wasn't very..."Victorious" hahaha LOL*
I truly hate the fishing industry and fishing gear. The amount of pollution and hurt to the environment is incalculable.
Didn't even mention the pale, swollen leg floating center-left, 13:35 in one of the photos? Probably stirred up by the ROV or divers. You can even make out a sock.
huh? i dont see it
8:35 and it's not a leg you muppet 🤣
Do you mean 8:35? I doubt there would be any remaining flesh after so many years. Kamloops has “Whitey” floating around the engine room, but he’s also in very cold fresh water.
The Royal Navy: great men always in charge sending ships and their crews into certain destruction...
HMS Hood
HMS Prince of Wales / Repulse
And of course those poor Cruisers at Jutland
Merits? What are those
Er. Not in any order, and only a small selection.
The Armada.
The Glorious First of June.
Camperdown.
Cape St. Vincent.
Quiberon.
The Nile.
Ushant.
Trafalgar.
Falkland Islands.
Jutland.
Bismarck Action.
Pedestal.
Matapan.
Neptune.
Would you like some more, or perhaps you might simply buy a book?
She is a grave divers should stay out of her unless given permission
I bet you are the real life of a party.
@@ShadowsOnTheScreen Men died inside that ship its a grave site out of respect people should just stay out. Its like if random divers started to go inside the USS Arizona you think people would be happy about that. Keep your moronic comment to yourself.
@@ShadowsOnTheScreen Its a grave site leave it alone. You think people would be Ok with random divers going inside the USS Arizona.
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