I feel that the story about the loss of the original HMS bounty is rather interesting. I agree that there was tenson between the crew. I understand that the last of the sailor's left alive became a Christian
@marhawkman303 It's no surprise, actually. Mike & Company has a big animation budget and can present the early history, the building of the ship, etc. Sam can present the broader technical specs (changes/disrepair) over time in a unique presentation style that reveals his/their own neutral diagnostic ability about ships and the victims' ethical dilemma, weather forecasts, NTSB forensic evidence, "mental models," etc. For example, the El Faro tragedy, in which the captain headed into a hurricane, resembles the Bounty's story. I highly recommend watching Brickimmortar's documentary on that cargo ship, which highlights the known NTSB/Coast Guard reports used to document that ship's tragic demise, negligence, and the crew's mindset just before entering a hurricane-disrepair of equipment, the crew's lack of training, the captain's state of mind, and the list goes on. It's a match made in heaven, given that both channels want to show respect to those who have lost loved ones amid the hubris of humanity's flaws and the power of Mother Nature. I hope to see more of their collaboration videos.
@marhawkman303, that's true. Brickmortor added NTSB and Coast Guard records in Part 2 of the Collaboration. The NTSB found/noted things about the crew requirements, training, weather reports, and the slow disrepair of the Bounty after the tragedy.
I Was On The Bounty Back In 2010!!! It was a great great honor. I’ve been fascinated with the Story of the Bounty since I was 6 years old. I was 8 when Titanic fascinated me. I was heartbroken when the Bounty Replica sank in 2012. Thank you guys for doing this video. I’ve been watching your work since 2016.
@@harrietharlow9929 i was working forward to getting on the eastbound/uk travels and roll of the fuzz-dice, i lost my-marriage/job-ect so $$$ wasn't there to do it 2009-14~ and now it's sunken sadly, as i love sailing and or id like to do the reverse of how my grandpa's/assessors got her-ect i did a flight from Honolulu to SLC,in-airport and hated-it jet-lag ( 2-4-hours is my maximum in the air/cramped up, not driving-wheelman as 9-13h is my limit at random/holiday weekend* as i can't pull-off OTR/CDL lifestyle's ) sucked-ect and or no-sleeping-ect and SST m1-m5 it's something i haven't gotten to experience or possible to get/pay-for-ect, after yachting/cruising from Seattle wa/Canada to islands ect
Florida port side 🤔 if so i was there that year after GED-got-out and or took my high* school/pre-21yo's sweetheart to Caribbean-cruise carnivalel-name.... sorry fuzzies ( snowing in Lincoln or york NE win i started off out of the driveway at 0:200 so probably around September to Feb. ) memory but boy was i glad to see both of them ( didn't know that a tall ship would be there let alone a chartered/working one and or famous movie ect ) at the docks as Omaha/airline missed up her/are tickets and or layover got can'd and it made her late-ect rest of the trip/vacation was smooth other than a freak-wave 13~ft got my 2009~/new-ish iPhone 3s* salty and killed it on horseback riding and or beach
The loss of the HMS Bounty was a very painful episode for me. I walked her decks, I climbed up to the crowes nest, I spent many wonderful hours admiring this gallant lady. I live in St. Petersburg where she was moored during the winter. I come from a different country and, as a child, I was fascinated by the novel and the film. I never, in a million years, expected that I would walk a gangway to board her. I wish I had the means to rescue her from the deep blue.
Hi Mike Thanks for this interesting video However to my knowledge there’s another bounty build in New Zealand in 1978 for the film “The Bounty” featuring Anthony Hopkins as Bligh and Mel Gibson as Christian It is however difficult to find any any info about it and if it still exist
@@rolandgillan9644 I'm not Mike, but I believe you're correct. I was going to mention the remake with Hopkins and Gibson, however, I was under the impression that the ship used in that production was the same Bounty lost in the hurricane.
@@rolandgillan9644 You are correct. The Bounty used in the Hopkins / Gibson film was built in Whangarei New Zealand. After the movie it spent some time in LA. It was then refitted in Canada and sailed to Sydney. And then to the UK. From where it sailed back to Sydney as part of the Bi- Centenary re-enactment fleet in early1988. After serving as a tourist ship in Sydney for a time. It was sold to a new owner in Hong Kong. As of 2022, it was reported to be in Thailand. That is the latest info i have.
@@davidtaylor351 yes exactly ! There’s some pictures of it in Thailand and it seems in pitiful condition … It’s a shame to finish this way Thanks for everything
Thrilled for this collab. Brick Immortar, Oceanliner Designs, and Part-time Explorer are my favorite channels, I always love when their channels cover the same maritime incidents.
After watching Brick Immotar's videos over the years, if someone say a ship is safer in the sea than on the port while heading to a storm just scream "EL FARO!!!"
Great storytelling Mike! The only anecdote I can add to the loss of the second Bounty is when the USCG helicopter got out to where the ship was foundering one of the crew blurted out "What the hell? Is that a pirate ship?" Apparantly they were responding to the distress call but had no idea who or what it was from! One historical fact I should add is the reason the Bounty mutiny was so shocking at the time was there'd never been a mutiny in the Royal Navy within anyone's memory. There were occasional mutinies on mechant vessels but these were typically non-violent and more like strikes than defiances of authority. A really horrific RN mutiny took place in 1797 on HMS Hermoine. That's a blood-curdling story worth telling in it's won right.
There was the mutiny on the HMS Wager in the 1740s, saying that wasnt within anyones memory is like saying the 80s (maiden flight of the space shuttle, Live Aid, silly hairstyles and clothes, ...) arent within anyons memory today
@@wolf310ii OK, I was wrong. I didn't know about Wager. Thanks for the information but don't be a smart-ass the next time you correct someone kid, that's no way to gain friends and influence people. And while you're at it learn a little sentence structure and punctuation.
Well done. Roger Donaldson's 1984 film, "The Bounty," is very underrated. It might have the most stellar cast of Academy Award and Emmy winners of any film in history. The film includes Anthony Hopkins, Mel Gibson, Daniel Day-Lewis, Liam Neeson, Sir Laurence Olivier, Bernard Hill, Edward Fox, etc. The script by Robert Bolt ("Lawrence of Arabia," "Doctor Zhivago," "A Man for All Seasons," "The Mission," etc.) is well-devised. The score by Vangelis ("Blade Runner," "Chariots of Fire," "Alexander," etc.) is amazing.
I only just recently rewatched that movie, so the whole story is very fresh on my mind coming into this. Love how it was all practical effects back then, makes it seem so much more real.
One of the most interesting (and famous) details about the rift between Bligh and Christian-as Bligh was being forced off the ship, he asked Christian how he could do such a thing, reminding him of their friendship and how Christian had even held Bligh’s children. And Bligh gave the famous response of “That is the thing, I am in hell!” Indicating how emotionally conflicting it was for him.
Makes you realize that safety at sea is a relatively recent invention. I was on the Enterprise returning from deployment, we sailed right through Sandy and the worst you had to worry about was the marines getting seasick. Sailing was a very different proposition only a handful of generations back.
The Bounty was built in the same shipyard here in Lunenburg, Nova Scotia, that the historic fishing schooner Bluenose was launched from in 1921. Soon after the Bounty was launched in 1960, those same shipwrights began the construction of the replica Bluenose II, to replace the original which had struck a reef and sank in the Caribbean in 1946.
@@user-or4hs7xq9u Yes, local craftsmen used local materials, just as had been used on the original in 1921 (a few of the Bluenose shipwrights even got to work on the Bluenose II!) In 2010, Bluenose II underwent a near-total rebuild, and was re-launched in 2013, and is known as Canada's Sailing Ambassador! There's been talk about having the names of the people lost on the Bounty included in the Lunenburg Fisherman's Memorial on the town's waterfront, but nothing's come of that yet.
@@davidyoung5114 thank you, so happy these wooden ships are still being lovingly built and maintained. Also happy that wood sourced locally. Here in Scotland we had large oak forests cut down and gone. The oak made great masts and strong ships. 🏴
@@eliotreader8220 Years ago, I saw a 'Making of The Bounty 1962' clip somewhere on TH-cam, and I seem to recall them saying that the original Bounty was built in Portsmouth, England. Not 100%sure, but it's somewhere out there, if you know where to look!
I have been aboard this amazing replica many times while it was in Miami. I saw it the first time when it was displayed in St. Petersberg FL. It had costumes and many props from the 1962 film.
21:30 "Remarkably, Claudine was a direct ancestor of ..." Time travelers are very remarkable. I would have expected at most someone to have been a direct descendant or to have had a direct ancestor.
Good choice for a collab, Mile! I've always appreciated Sam's approach to naval disasters from the standpoint that safety should always be first and foremost and criticizing people and companies for failing to prioritize safety. If you're not seething by the end of his 'El Faro's video, you have no heart.
What an excellent surprise this collab is! Having grown up as a nautical geek just outside Lunenburg and being quite proud of Bounty as yet another famous example of our local handiwork, I remember very clearly how when the first brief headlines about "Bounty sunk by Hurricane Sandy" began to pop up amidst the greater storm destruction headlines out of the US East Coast, many folks like myself who weren't up on the Facebook page thought "Oh, what a shame, I guess it must have caught her in port and sunk her at moorings, that's too bad", only to be absolutely floored as more and more details emerged of what actually went down! Great work by you and Sam on both your videos!
Bligh's open boat voyage after the mutiny will never cease to amaze me. It was an astonishing feat of navigation and given how successful he was, speaks volumes as to his actual leadership ability.
I think it speaks volumes of his navigation skills, and maybe his ability to lead in a crisis - his overall leadership abilities...... well, with hindsight knowledge of his time in new south wales, I'm not convinced
@@isthatrubble By actual abilities, I meant that it showed he could lead a smaller group of people in a nasty situation. As in the abilities that he clearly *actually* had as was demonstrated in that voyage. By no means does it mean I am saying he was as good a leader as he was a navigator. I agree that when he was in charge of larger groups (as well as not being in a life or death situation), he wasn't the best, to put it mildly. But he clearly had a good degree of ability in more limited situations. addendum: "speaks volumes" only means that it supplies a lot of evidence for a particular thing. I think that open boat voyage does so.
@@wolf310ii he addressed it in such a way that it provoked a coup. that's not success! perhaps no one could have solved it with the resources and power he was given, but I don't think he did the best he could with what he had.
@@whyjnot420 fair - I thought you meant "actual" as opposed to the myths and legends about him and his abilities/behaviour. he definitely had those navigation skills.
Oooo neat collaboration! I remember watching this unfold years ago, thinking very much the same "HOW can they think it was better to sail into a hurricane?!"
I saw the Brick Immorter premier coming soon, then with a refresh your video appeared and I was really confused for a moment. Can't wait to see his half of the collab!
Excellent video collaboration! Only one minor error: Claudine Christian was a descendant of Fletcher Christian, who was her ancestor. This has become a seeming common error, but it needs to be clarified. Your description of Bligh's character was incredibly detailed, which really improved the telling of this popular story!
R.A.N. Admiral of the Fleet Brady, SIR! The folks at Brick Immortar have given you the moniker "Legendary". I most heartily concur! Civilian personnel can now address you as "The LEGENDARY Mike Brady" Your videos are always "outstanding" "exemplary" and "4.0"'. It's always a pleasure to be a part of your crew. Melka J F BT3 B55 1853
I actually toured the replica Bounty back in the late 2000s when it used to be docked at the old St. Petersburg Pier. Crazy to think just a few years later that ship would be lost. Glad I got to see it while it was still afloat at least. RIP to the two crew members who were lost.
I'm a fan of both BI and Oceanliner Designs and always look forward to their content. Having a collaboration of the two is synergistic - the result is more than just sum of the two parts. Nitpicky comment: The flag is flying the wrong way for a sailing vessel. Source: former naval person.
I wondered why I got two channels on the same topic back to back. This just HAD to be good. And, having watched both, it was even better than I anticipated.
I've been aboard the Bounty many times over the years having been born/raised in St. Petersburg, Florida. I clearly remember a 4th grade field trip (1976) to the Bounty where I was amazed how "fancy" the interior of the cabin at the stern was and playing with the brass swivel guns. As a kid, I was most impressed with the perfectly coiled ropes on deck and the crazy amount of rigging.
damn, the algorithm knows its shit! I watch both of you guys so naturally I'm very happy with this 2 part series! (with the series not the outcome, THE SERIES)
There aren’t many TH-cam channels where new videos mean I drop everything and watch it now. Now we have two of them working together, and it’s a good day. And, according to B.I., it’s not just our friend Mike Brady, but our friend, the *legendary* Mike Brady.
I literally gasped when I heard that this was a collaboration between Oceanliner Designs and Brick Immortar! Two of my favorite channels working together! ❤
I actually spent time on a processing vessel that went from Bellingham, WA to Bath, Maine. I saw some of the storms in the Atlantic. And the story of the Bounty was always close to me because I've always loved the oceans. Thank you for this video!!!
There is a third HMS Bounty that sank… the Klingon Bird of Prey stolen by Admiral Kirk and crew in Star Trek III sank in San Francisco Bay in Star Trek IV after retrieving two humpback whales from the 20th century!
You know, I remember when this happened when it hit the news I remember my uncle was criticizing the captain asking why in the world would they take a ship out in the middle of a hurricane? 🌀 he still talks about it to this day
y'all don't know how unbelievably hype i got finding out this was a collab between two of my favorite channels. absolute juggernauts of the "fucked up boat" storytelling genre, which... might be a specific interest but anyone reading this is of a similar proclivity. we both know what the other one's doing at the devil's sacrament
And to think, in some 260+ years from now, yet another HMS Bounty will find itself plunging into San Francisco bay. (Sorry, had to, ; ) ) Epic Collab!!
Absolutely fantastic work Mike, and Sam. Love the 2-part-full-episode format, the deep research and history, the analysis of how the casualty occurred. This is fine work, thank you both.
Living just outside Lunenburg,Nova Scotia I was at the shipyard when the second Bounty was launched. I was 6 years old and my father who was engineer at the local radio station had set up the equipment to broadcast the event. I have 35 mm slides from the launching. Thank you Mike Brady.
As an Australian, Mike, you might be interested to know there was an Australian Bounty film, In the Wake of the Bounty, a couple of years before the Charles Laughton film, made by Charles Chauvel and introducing to the world, the Australian actor Errol Flynn.
OMG it’s my two FAVORITE maritime channels doing a COLLABORATION? TH-cam algorithm, you let me down not showing me earlier. *settles in with popcorn* 🍿
I toured the replica ship the April before it sank. Sad that one decision caused such a loss especially with such a forewarning. The NTSB has released a brief on the sinking that can be found online.
I was lucky as a child. When Bounty was built, I was 5 - 6 years old and living with my Aunt Barb in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia. My aunt, would take me along, often visiting Lunenburg, where the Bounty was built. I was at the yard when she was launched. I did see her again when she was fitted out a bit. While these are a child's memories, I am lucky as my aunt took pictures and after her death I was given the pictures of that event. I often post them on FB whenever I see the Bounty mentioned. Going to Lunenburg as a child was a big event for me and I got to see a number of ships launched in the early 60s. Hearing the builders hammer the wedges to start the launching was always exciting.
Mike, I've been watching form almost the beginning and love everything you do, but never commented before now. I've always wished someone would do a deep dive into the loss of Bounty, and I can think of no two better people for the job than you and Sam. It's a delightful surprise to see two of my absolute favourite TH-cam channels team up to tackle a story as fascinatingly tragic as this. You've done an exceptional job, and I can't wait to see what else your two channels will come up with together.
Excellent collab; thank you so much! I only learned about the story of the original HMS Bounty last year, so having your historical backdrop really helped to contextualize the modern sinking of her replica. I didn't know that the deckhand who was lost was a descendant of the original mutiny ringleader; she definitely didn't deserve to die for the skipper's recklessness, but that sure is a heck of a coincidence.
Awesome video as always Mike, this one hits a bit differently as I got to see the bounty replica in person back in 2010. She was in the port of Bay City Michigan for a tall ship show and looked spectacular, flying all kinds of flags and to think I got to see her in the flesh, walk her decks and see the captains room and everywhere else aboard just a year and a half before her sad death is incredible. Even more so watching a video on this channel about it. Thank you Mike, brought back some cool memories.
Watch both channels independently so was surprised there was a collaborative effort however we have one whi focuses on accidents with modern ships and yourself with a historical view which equally is wonderful. This certainly was an interesting story
For me, the value of these collaborations on a single topic is that you both bring your own typical styles to it, and the combination is even better. This is Captain Obvious speaking.
Many thanks for this, l knew they had built a replica of the Bounty for the film, but thought it was that it was set on fire at the end.. No idea it went on to have another life for a further 50 yrs.. I will be watching part 2 with interest. Thanks again⛵.........
Excellent collab by our friend Mike Brady, excited to have finally gotten a chance to watch. I was surprised by this collab but so stoked. Super interesting story that you two chose, the Bounty is such a classic yet this is such an interesting new take with the modern sinking.
Watch part 2 of the HMS Bounty story at Brick Immortar here: th-cam.com/video/G20ghEO_3sE/w-d-xo.html
What a colab, didn’t see that coming. The two best nautical channels out there.
Oh, it’s a collab. Greetings from a BI watcher. =)
BEST COLLAB EVER!!! :)
Cant stand that voice, sry. Had to stop after a minute
I feel that the story about the loss of the original HMS bounty is rather interesting. I agree that there was tenson between the crew.
I understand that the last of the sailor's left alive became a Christian
This is a collab I wouldn't have thought of but it works...
Agreed!
Unexpected, but... given how close they are in what they do... perhaps inevitable.
@marhawkman303 It's no surprise, actually. Mike & Company has a big animation budget and can present the early history, the building of the ship, etc. Sam can present the broader technical specs (changes/disrepair) over time in a unique presentation style that reveals his/their own neutral diagnostic ability about ships and the victims' ethical dilemma, weather forecasts, NTSB forensic evidence, "mental models," etc.
For example, the El Faro tragedy, in which the captain headed into a hurricane, resembles the Bounty's story. I highly recommend watching Brickimmortar's documentary on that cargo ship, which highlights the known NTSB/Coast Guard reports used to document that ship's tragic demise, negligence, and the crew's mindset just before entering a hurricane-disrepair of equipment, the crew's lack of training, the captain's state of mind, and the list goes on.
It's a match made in heaven, given that both channels want to show respect to those who have lost loved ones amid the hubris of humanity's flaws and the power of Mother Nature. I hope to see more of their collaboration videos.
@@SolidAvenger1290 Well, he uses the Coast Guard findings, not NTSB for this vessel's demise, but yeah.
@marhawkman303, that's true. Brickmortor added NTSB and Coast Guard records in Part 2 of the Collaboration. The NTSB found/noted things about the crew requirements, training, weather reports, and the slow disrepair of the Bounty after the tragedy.
If this collab turned into a series, I would not be mad at ALL.
I Was On The Bounty Back In 2010!!!
It was a great great honor. I’ve been fascinated with the Story of the Bounty since I was 6 years old. I was 8 when Titanic fascinated me. I was heartbroken when the Bounty Replica sank in 2012. Thank you guys for doing this video. I’ve been watching your work since 2016.
I got to go aboard her in 2003. Such a lovely Lady, such a sad end.
@@harrietharlow9929 i was working forward to getting on the eastbound/uk travels and roll of the fuzz-dice, i lost my-marriage/job-ect so $$$ wasn't there to do it 2009-14~ and now it's sunken sadly, as i love sailing and or id like to do the reverse of how my grandpa's/assessors got her-ect
i did a flight from Honolulu to SLC,in-airport and hated-it jet-lag ( 2-4-hours is my maximum in the air/cramped up, not driving-wheelman as 9-13h is my limit at random/holiday weekend* as i can't pull-off OTR/CDL lifestyle's ) sucked-ect and or no-sleeping-ect and SST m1-m5 it's something i haven't gotten to experience or possible to get/pay-for-ect, after yachting/cruising from Seattle wa/Canada to islands ect
Florida port side 🤔 if so i was there that year after GED-got-out and or took my high* school/pre-21yo's sweetheart to Caribbean-cruise carnivalel-name.... sorry fuzzies ( snowing in Lincoln or york NE win i started off out of the driveway at 0:200 so probably around September to Feb. ) memory but boy was i glad to see both of them ( didn't know that a tall ship would be there let alone a chartered/working one and or famous movie ect ) at the docks as Omaha/airline missed up her/are tickets and or layover got can'd and it made her late-ect
rest of the trip/vacation was smooth other than a freak-wave 13~ft got my 2009~/new-ish iPhone 3s* salty and killed it on horseback riding and or beach
I was so confused to see two channels I follow doing videos on the same topic, thinking perhaps it was something nefarious. But oh joy, it's a collab!
My two favorite maritime TH-camrs collab on my favorite ship adventure story. God is good I love you guys!❤
came here to say this
Same, all we need now is Tom from Part-time explorer
@@jessicam5712 my thoughts exactly🥂
same here!
How weird that you blame a science fiction character on two humans deciding to work together.
Our friend Mike Brady and Safety Sam in a collab. This is epic and not to be understated as to how much quality is on display. Great stuff.
I didn't want this collab...
I NEEDED IT!!!
Get a life
Ya had me in the first half mate 😂😂😂
The loss of the HMS Bounty was a very painful episode for me. I walked her decks, I climbed up to the crowes nest, I spent many wonderful hours admiring this gallant lady. I live in St. Petersburg where she was moored during the winter. I come from a different country and, as a child, I was fascinated by the novel and the film. I never, in a million years, expected that I would walk a gangway to board her. I wish I had the means to rescue her from the deep blue.
Hi Mike
Thanks for this interesting video
However to my knowledge there’s another bounty build in New Zealand in 1978 for the film “The Bounty” featuring Anthony Hopkins as Bligh and Mel Gibson as Christian
It is however difficult to find any any info about it and if it still exist
@@rolandgillan9644 I'm not Mike, but I believe you're correct. I was going to mention the remake with Hopkins and Gibson, however, I was under the impression that the ship used in that production was the same Bounty lost in the hurricane.
@@rolandgillan9644 You are correct. The Bounty used in the Hopkins / Gibson film was built in Whangarei New Zealand. After the movie it spent some time in LA. It was then refitted in Canada and sailed to Sydney. And then to the UK. From where it sailed back to Sydney as part of the Bi- Centenary re-enactment fleet in early1988. After serving as a tourist ship in Sydney for a time. It was sold to a new owner in Hong Kong. As of 2022, it was reported to be in Thailand. That is the latest info i have.
@@davidtaylor351 yes exactly ! There’s some pictures of it in Thailand and it seems in pitiful condition …
It’s a shame to finish this way
Thanks for everything
@@davidtaylor351
Yes, refitted in Lunenburg, Nova Scotia, Canada.
Thrilled for this collab. Brick Immortar, Oceanliner Designs, and Part-time Explorer are my favorite channels, I always love when their channels cover the same maritime incidents.
I forgot…. Big Old Boats fav channel too👍🏻
@Electriceye1984bySam absolutely! And maritime horrors is a good one too.
@@jessicam5712 right, 😂 nowI’m starting to realize how many of these maritime TH-camrs I really enjoy
@@Electriceye1984bySam Came to day that
Yes those three channels are my top three ❤❤❤❤
Oh hey, its my friend Mike Brady, from Oceanliner Designs
Hold up, I thought he was MY friend 🤔
@@jennifertwede7142 he said he was MY friend. Unless he's friends to all of us. But he said that our friendship was special
@@CarolinaCycloneJamesno he’s MY FRIEND!
Bunch of simps
But he’s my second favorite Australian
Don’t see TH-camrs collaborate often, awesome to see your support for each other. Great job guys, well done on another captivating story 😁
Thank you!
@@OceanlinerDesignsso... Maybe a collab with Drachnifel?
@@MrKeserian We love Drach!
After watching Brick Immotar's videos over the years, if someone say a ship is safer in the sea than on the port while heading to a storm just scream "EL FARO!!!"
Great storytelling Mike! The only anecdote I can add to the loss of the second Bounty is when the USCG helicopter got out to where the ship was foundering one of the crew blurted out "What the hell? Is that a pirate ship?" Apparantly they were responding to the distress call but had no idea who or what it was from!
One historical fact I should add is the reason the Bounty mutiny was so shocking at the time was there'd never been a mutiny in the Royal Navy within anyone's memory. There were occasional mutinies on mechant vessels but these were typically non-violent and more like strikes than defiances of authority.
A really horrific RN mutiny took place in 1797 on HMS Hermoine. That's a blood-curdling story worth telling in it's won right.
There was the mutiny on the HMS Wager in the 1740s, saying that wasnt within anyones memory is like saying the 80s (maiden flight of the space shuttle, Live Aid, silly hairstyles and clothes, ...) arent within anyons memory today
@@wolf310ii OK, I was wrong. I didn't know about Wager.
Thanks for the information but don't be a smart-ass the next time you correct someone kid, that's no way to gain friends and influence people. And while you're at it learn a little sentence structure and punctuation.
The Bountys both involved in arguably the greatest adventure in naval history, the mutiny and its aftermath.
Not even close
@@I_am_a_cat_ Yeah, what the heck lol
I wouldn't call either one of those voyages an adventure at all.
Well done. Roger Donaldson's 1984 film, "The Bounty," is very underrated. It might have the most stellar cast of Academy Award and Emmy winners of any film in history. The film includes Anthony Hopkins, Mel Gibson, Daniel Day-Lewis, Liam Neeson, Sir Laurence Olivier, Bernard Hill, Edward Fox, etc. The script by Robert Bolt ("Lawrence of Arabia," "Doctor Zhivago," "A Man for All Seasons," "The Mission," etc.) is well-devised. The score by Vangelis ("Blade Runner," "Chariots of Fire," "Alexander," etc.) is amazing.
...and, of course, provides a great retelling of the HMS Bounty story.
I only just recently rewatched that movie, so the whole story is very fresh on my mind coming into this.
Love how it was all practical effects back then, makes it seem so much more real.
The mutiny scene is almost word for word from the record of the court martial.
It's an amazing film!
Yes! Definitely the best of all the "Bounty" movies, and if you have read cpt. Bligh's log, it seems to be the most accurate also.
Super underrated channel. I could care less about boats, and I still never miss an upload.
Edit: I couldN'T care less.
Don't you mean couldn't?
@@jglbeaufortthank you. People who say I could care less is seriously a major pet hate of mine.
Indeed. I'm pretty sure I was a victim of autocorrect. 🤔
saaaaaaame
3am in the morning
ATM machine
PIN number
I don't know nothing
(I could go on 😅)
One of the most interesting (and famous) details about the rift between Bligh and Christian-as Bligh was being forced off the ship, he asked Christian how he could do such a thing, reminding him of their friendship and how Christian had even held Bligh’s children. And Bligh gave the famous response of “That is the thing, I am in hell!” Indicating how emotionally conflicting it was for him.
Makes you realize that safety at sea is a relatively recent invention. I was on the Enterprise returning from deployment, we sailed right through Sandy and the worst you had to worry about was the marines getting seasick. Sailing was a very different proposition only a handful of generations back.
The Bounty was built in the same shipyard here in Lunenburg, Nova Scotia, that the historic fishing schooner Bluenose was launched from in 1921. Soon after the Bounty was launched in 1960, those same shipwrights began the construction of the replica Bluenose II, to replace the original which had struck a reef and sank in the Caribbean in 1946.
Built with local wood? Great that skilled shipwrights could build a wooden sailing ship in the 1960's 🏴
@@user-or4hs7xq9u Yes, local craftsmen used local materials, just as had been used on the original in 1921 (a few of the Bluenose shipwrights even got to work on the Bluenose II!) In 2010, Bluenose II underwent a near-total rebuild, and was re-launched in 2013, and is known as Canada's Sailing Ambassador! There's been talk about having the names of the people lost on the Bounty included in the Lunenburg Fisherman's Memorial on the town's waterfront, but nothing's come of that yet.
@@davidyoung5114 thank you, so happy these wooden ships are still being lovingly built and maintained. Also happy that wood sourced locally. Here in Scotland we had large oak forests cut down and gone. The oak made great masts and strong ships. 🏴
which ship yard built the original Bounty
@@eliotreader8220 Years ago, I saw a 'Making of The Bounty 1962' clip somewhere on TH-cam, and I seem to recall them saying that the original Bounty was built in Portsmouth, England. Not 100%sure, but it's somewhere out there, if you know where to look!
Great that my two favourite maritime you tubers are collaborating. It works well.
I have been aboard this amazing replica many times while it was in Miami. I saw it the first time when it was displayed in St. Petersberg FL. It had costumes and many props from the 1962 film.
I lived in NYC when Hurricane Sandy hit. Believe me, it was bad enough on land. I can't imagine how bad it would have been at sea!
finally, a video about hms bounty! and its a two parter?! HECK YEAH!
21:30 "Remarkably, Claudine was a direct ancestor of ..."
Time travelers are very remarkable. I would have expected at most someone to have been a direct descendant or to have had a direct ancestor.
Brick Immortar is an underrated channel. Nicely done, gentlemen!
Good choice for a collab, Mile! I've always appreciated Sam's approach to naval disasters from the standpoint that safety should always be first and foremost and criticizing people and companies for failing to prioritize safety. If you're not seething by the end of his 'El Faro's video, you have no heart.
He had me weeping at the opening of Part 2 of his Sewol examination.
What an excellent surprise this collab is! Having grown up as a nautical geek just outside Lunenburg and being quite proud of Bounty as yet another famous example of our local handiwork, I remember very clearly how when the first brief headlines about "Bounty sunk by Hurricane Sandy" began to pop up amidst the greater storm destruction headlines out of the US East Coast, many folks like myself who weren't up on the Facebook page thought "Oh, what a shame, I guess it must have caught her in port and sunk her at moorings, that's too bad", only to be absolutely floored as more and more details emerged of what actually went down! Great work by you and Sam on both your videos!
What’s better than this? Two of my favorite channels collaborating on the Bounty?! I can’t wait to check out BI’s vid after this 👍
Bligh's open boat voyage after the mutiny will never cease to amaze me. It was an astonishing feat of navigation and given how successful he was, speaks volumes as to his actual leadership ability.
I think it speaks volumes of his navigation skills, and maybe his ability to lead in a crisis - his overall leadership abilities...... well, with hindsight knowledge of his time in new south wales, I'm not convinced
@@isthatrubble By actual abilities, I meant that it showed he could lead a smaller group of people in a nasty situation. As in the abilities that he clearly *actually* had as was demonstrated in that voyage. By no means does it mean I am saying he was as good a leader as he was a navigator.
I agree that when he was in charge of larger groups (as well as not being in a life or death situation), he wasn't the best, to put it mildly. But he clearly had a good degree of ability in more limited situations.
addendum: "speaks volumes" only means that it supplies a lot of evidence for a particular thing. I think that open boat voyage does so.
@@isthatrubble He was sent to new south wales because of his leadership abilities, to end the corruption going on there, what he accomplished
@@wolf310ii he addressed it in such a way that it provoked a coup. that's not success! perhaps no one could have solved it with the resources and power he was given, but I don't think he did the best he could with what he had.
@@whyjnot420 fair - I thought you meant "actual" as opposed to the myths and legends about him and his abilities/behaviour. he definitely had those navigation skills.
Oooo neat collaboration! I remember watching this unfold years ago, thinking very much the same "HOW can they think it was better to sail into a hurricane?!"
I saw the Brick Immorter premier coming soon, then with a refresh your video appeared and I was really confused for a moment. Can't wait to see his half of the collab!
Wow I didn’t know I needed this collab. BI is great!
I’ve had a passed down model of this ship since I was a child. So nice to learn its history in depth! Thanks, Mike!
Excellent video collaboration! Only one minor error: Claudine Christian was a descendant of Fletcher Christian, who was her ancestor. This has become a seeming common error, but it needs to be clarified. Your description of Bligh's character was incredibly detailed, which really improved the telling of this popular story!
I really enjoy your YT Channel! You r research is incredible. US Navy Veteran "shabby" here.
Thanks mate! o7
Thank you for teaming up with Brick Immortar! I love that channel! This was a brilliant idea that y'all should do again!
Well the Australian and American colab with Mike and Sam that I never thought would become a thing
R.A.N. Admiral of the Fleet Brady, SIR! The folks at Brick Immortar have given you the moniker "Legendary". I most heartily concur! Civilian personnel can now address you as "The LEGENDARY Mike Brady" Your videos are always "outstanding" "exemplary" and "4.0"'. It's always a pleasure to be a part of your crew.
Melka J F BT3
B55 1853
Cringe.
YES THE TWO COLLABS! I LOVE BRICK IMMORTAR!
I actually toured the replica Bounty back in the late 2000s when it used to be docked at the old St. Petersburg Pier. Crazy to think just a few years later that ship would be lost. Glad I got to see it while it was still afloat at least. RIP to the two crew members who were lost.
This replica was docked in my hometown of Fall River Massachusetts USA for quite some time from 1993 to 2001. Thanks Mike
This collab is perfect. Hope you guys do more on the future.
I'm a fan of both BI and Oceanliner Designs and always look forward to their content. Having a collaboration of the two is synergistic - the result is more than just sum of the two parts. Nitpicky comment: The flag is flying the wrong way for a sailing vessel. Source: former naval person.
How did they know…..?
That this would be the most epic collab of all time!!!
I wondered why I got two channels on the same topic back to back. This just HAD to be good.
And, having watched both, it was even better than I anticipated.
I've been aboard the Bounty many times over the years having been born/raised in St. Petersburg, Florida. I clearly remember a 4th grade field trip (1976) to the Bounty where I was amazed how "fancy" the interior of the cabin at the stern was and playing with the brass swivel guns. As a kid, I was most impressed with the perfectly coiled ropes on deck and the crazy amount of rigging.
This channel and Brick Immortar are my top tier ship obsession channels!
damn, the algorithm knows its shit! I watch both of you guys so naturally I'm very happy with this 2 part series! (with the series not the outcome, THE SERIES)
"Congratulations on the mutiny Captain Fletcher! What now?"
"We sail to Tahiti boys, I have a plan.."
There aren’t many TH-cam channels where new videos mean I drop everything and watch it now. Now we have two of them working together, and it’s a good day.
And, according to B.I., it’s not just our friend Mike Brady, but our friend, the *legendary* Mike Brady.
Two of my favorite channels working together now that’s outstanding
I literally gasped when I heard that this was a collaboration between Oceanliner Designs and Brick Immortar! Two of my favorite channels working together! ❤
Wow, two of my favorite channels collaborating! That’s always such a great thing!
Two of my favorite TH-camrs, together! What a glorious day!
I actually spent time on a processing vessel that went from Bellingham, WA to Bath, Maine. I saw some of the storms in the Atlantic. And the story of the Bounty was always close to me because I've always loved the oceans. Thank you for this video!!!
There is a third HMS Bounty that sank… the Klingon Bird of Prey stolen by Admiral Kirk and crew in Star Trek III sank in San Francisco Bay in Star Trek IV after retrieving two humpback whales from the 20th century!
collabs make me so happy
Brick Immortar collaboration, absolutely epic
You know, I remember when this happened when it hit the news I remember my uncle was criticizing the captain asking why in the world would they take a ship out in the middle of a hurricane? 🌀 he still talks about it to this day
y'all don't know how unbelievably hype i got finding out this was a collab between two of my favorite channels. absolute juggernauts of the "fucked up boat" storytelling genre, which... might be a specific interest but anyone reading this is of a similar proclivity. we both know what the other one's doing at the devil's sacrament
Double feature! What a treat! ❤
And to think, in some 260+ years from now, yet another HMS Bounty will find itself plunging into San Francisco bay. (Sorry, had to, ; ) ) Epic Collab!!
Absolutely fantastic work Mike, and Sam. Love the 2-part-full-episode format, the deep research and history, the analysis of how the casualty occurred. This is fine work, thank you both.
The collaboration we didn’t know we needed. Great stuff
2 of my top subscriptions, doing a suprising, yet intriguing shared project. Thanks to all who made this happen. 😊
Living just outside Lunenburg,Nova Scotia I was at the shipyard when the second Bounty was launched. I was 6 years old and my father who was engineer at the local radio station had set up the equipment to broadcast the event. I have 35 mm slides from the launching. Thank you Mike Brady.
As an Australian, Mike, you might be interested to know there was an Australian Bounty film, In the Wake of the Bounty, a couple of years before the Charles Laughton film, made by Charles Chauvel and introducing to the world, the Australian actor Errol Flynn.
Interesting to find out. I see it’s available on TH-cam. Definitely check it out later today.
To modern eyes, it‘s not very good.
so happy to see a collab with you two!
2 of my favorite channels collab! Yay!
Two of my favorite maritime channels up and made the best thing ever thank you guys
OMG it’s my two FAVORITE maritime channels doing a COLLABORATION?
TH-cam algorithm, you let me down not showing me earlier.
*settles in with popcorn* 🍿
THE COLLAB OF THE CENTURY MY TWO FAVORITE CHANNELS
I watch both of you and I never thought I would hear you both on the same video!! Well done lads! ❤
Sam is the man! 🙌 You're Safety Matters!
I toured the replica ship the April before it sank. Sad that one decision caused such a loss especially with such a forewarning. The NTSB has released a brief on the sinking that can be found online.
Very well done
Its my friend Mike Brady! Back with a COLLAB, MY TWO FAVORITES WOO!
Speaking on Mr. Brady’s behalf, be sure to keep a lookout for an update to Grand Voyage this month.
I was lucky as a child. When Bounty was built, I was 5 - 6 years old and living with my Aunt Barb in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia. My aunt, would take me along, often visiting Lunenburg, where the Bounty was built. I was at the yard when she was launched. I did see her again when she was fitted out a bit. While these are a child's memories, I am lucky as my aunt took pictures and after her death I was given the pictures of that event. I often post them on FB whenever I see the Bounty mentioned. Going to Lunenburg as a child was a big event for me and I got to see a number of ships launched in the early 60s. Hearing the builders hammer the wedges to start the launching was always exciting.
Mike, I've been watching form almost the beginning and love everything you do, but never commented before now. I've always wished someone would do a deep dive into the loss of Bounty, and I can think of no two better people for the job than you and Sam. It's a delightful surprise to see two of my absolute favourite TH-cam channels team up to tackle a story as fascinatingly tragic as this. You've done an exceptional job, and I can't wait to see what else your two channels will come up with together.
Mike, you and your collaborator run me out of superlatives! Thanks!
I've been waiting for ages for my friend Mike Brady to do a video on the HMS Bounty.
With brick immortar? That's a cool collaboration
I love Brick Immortar! I'm so glad Mike and Same are working together.
Excellent collab; thank you so much! I only learned about the story of the original HMS Bounty last year, so having your historical backdrop really helped to contextualize the modern sinking of her replica. I didn't know that the deckhand who was lost was a descendant of the original mutiny ringleader; she definitely didn't deserve to die for the skipper's recklessness, but that sure is a heck of a coincidence.
Awesome video as always Mike, this one hits a bit differently as I got to see the bounty replica in person back in 2010. She was in the port of Bay City Michigan for a tall ship show and looked spectacular, flying all kinds of flags and to think I got to see her in the flesh, walk her decks and see the captains room and everywhere else aboard just a year and a half before her sad death is incredible. Even more so watching a video on this channel about it. Thank you Mike, brought back some cool memories.
Watch both channels independently so was surprised there was a collaborative effort however we have one whi focuses on accidents with modern ships and yourself with a historical view which equally is wonderful. This certainly was an interesting story
Fantastic collaboration. Brick Immortar is a hidden gem that I ran across about two years ago and watched all its videos in about two days.
I am so pleased to see this kind of collaboration. Two channels. I greatly enjoy working together. Thank you both!
Saw the ship in St. Petersburg in the early 2000’s was absolutely stunning.
For me, the value of these collaborations on a single topic is that you both bring your own typical styles to it, and the combination is even better. This is Captain Obvious speaking.
I bought a kit of this ship, but it's still in the box.
Thanks for the great content!
Thank you, Mike... excellent two-parter. You truly do amazing work!
Many thanks for this, l knew they had built a replica of the Bounty for the film, but thought it was that it was set on fire at the end.. No idea it went on to have another life for a further 50 yrs.. I will be watching part 2 with interest. Thanks again⛵.........
Excellent collab by our friend Mike Brady, excited to have finally gotten a chance to watch. I was surprised by this collab but so stoked. Super interesting story that you two chose, the Bounty is such a classic yet this is such an interesting new take with the modern sinking.
This is one of the best collabs I've ever seen
Great work Oceanliner Designs, love the collab with Brick Immortar.
Another fantastic video. Thank you :) My favorite Bounty film is the 1984 version 'The Bounty' staring Mel Gibson and Anthony Hopkins.
WHAT A AWESOME COLAB
I absolutely love these 2 channels. BI has some of the best researched content on TH-cam.