The Medical Model Of Viewing Autism Is Wrong! Autistic Deficits Vs Strengths

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  • In this video I continue to answer your questions with Ask the #Autistic Guy. Plus I discuss Autistic Deficits Vs Strengths and how the Autistic community view #autism versus the medical profession.
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  • @melissa23347
    @melissa23347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    “I fall through the cracks”. The story of my life as someone finally diagnosed a week before my 44th birthday! It’s hard when you are struggling SO much but it is invisible and invalidated by most people around you!

    • @orionkelly
      @orionkelly  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep, you’re not alone.

    • @amandamandamands
      @amandamandamands 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I feel you, I was diagnosed at 48 and have other mental health diagnoses but because I am 'high functioning' there isn't support out there.

    • @PumpkinSpicePretzels
      @PumpkinSpicePretzels ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was diagnosed as a child with "high-functioning autism", which I only learned like 30 years later 😆 years after I thought I had Asperger's Syndrome after taking an online test, but then recently I learn that that those two terms have been rolled into ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder). So I've been telling people I had these two terms, and some probably knew they were effectively irrelevant, making me look more like a narcissist than my introversion made me look 🤣 🤦‍♂

  • @tangerinefizz11
    @tangerinefizz11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Sun is a noun, and sunny is an adjective. 😉

    • @NickSBailey
      @NickSBailey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lots of instances where you can't just add a y to the end of a noun to make it an adjective though, English is messy and illogical, come to think of it I've always bent the rules and misused words deliberately now it makes sense :)

  • @amandamandamands
    @amandamandamands 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Level 1 autie, really gets me that because I'm level 1 the medical model says that I don't need help, when in reality the levels are only how well you can communicate with neurotypicals and 'fit in' as you are doing so and have no baring on how it affects you on a day to day basis.
    The other thing that I don't like is that it has to be deficits and they need to cause clinically significant impairment in social, occupation, or other important areas of current functioning. One big reason that I don't like this (besides being the deficit model) is that they are currently saying that autism is being over diagnosed and yet someone can have all the traits in the world but if they aren't being negatively impacted by it then they don't qualify for a diagnosis.

    • @PumpkinSpicePretzels
      @PumpkinSpicePretzels ปีที่แล้ว

      It seems like you are being negatively impacted by it which is why you're saying you need help...

    • @amandamandamands
      @amandamandamands ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PumpkinSpicePretzels Yes, it took me to the age of 48 to work out that that was what was causing it and to get a diagnosis though. Before that it wasn't on anyone's radar. The problem is that because I am level 1 the help that exists for people who are level 2 & 3 isn't available to me. Because I can talk like an neurotypical most of the time it is assumed that I don't have any issues.

    • @trishapotter3118
      @trishapotter3118 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try finding out at age 67 that you are autistic 😮

    • @amandamandamands
      @amandamandamands ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trishapotter3118 Have some idea, I was diagnosed at 48

  • @staceyorourke880
    @staceyorourke880 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mostly is an adverb and sunny is a verb. Sun is a noun. Today it will be mostly sunny. The noun is it. It’s a pronoun referring to the weather. Will be is future perfect and sunny is the modifying verb. A noun at the end wouldn’t be needed. But you do need a verb and because it is in the future you need the future perfect conjugation of the verb. Mostly just describes how it will be sunny. So how much sun we will have. That is what an adverb does. It gives the type of motion or action to the verb.

    • @orionkelly
      @orionkelly  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I appreciate it Stacey. I was just joking around.

    • @PumpkinSpicePretzels
      @PumpkinSpicePretzels ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yah I think he was confusing the thing with the effect of the thing, maybe due to the hyper-analytical autistic mind. It is feasible however to consider a day "mostly sun" because stating the sun's effect is not necessary to describe what the day looks like with the sun exposed; just naming the thing already conjures images/definitions of its effect. So he could be right in his questioning, however much of a joke it was (or that he says it was, haha).

  • @chuckmartel1874
    @chuckmartel1874 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video. I do think the wheelchair analogy is inaccurate though - wheelchair-bound folks have no strengths stemming from their disability. Meaning, the strengths they develop tend to be compensatory (like the paraplegic with a super jacked upper body). Autism ITSELF leads to profound strengths. The intense, focused, immersive autistic worldview can lead high functioning autists to outperform NTs. Go to any tech company or engineering firm and you'll find absolutely brilliant people on the spectrum. The weaknesses of autism are what lead people to label it as a "disability" - which in the modern world, it can be exactly that. It makes more sense to look at autism as a trait with massive trade-offs, but potentially massive strengths. Higher risk, higher reward, genetically speaking.

  • @dra.latina3063
    @dra.latina3063 ปีที่แล้ว

    “sunny” is an adjective, and “sun” is a noun.

  • @PumpkinSpicePretzels
    @PumpkinSpicePretzels ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I laughed out loud when you said "we are more evolved" (than neurotypicals) 😆 I 100% agree, but really, they may feel we're mentally challenged because of our differences. So, are they at a deficit? Well, using your analogy of the wheelchair, maybe the two are just different, and any deficits are each of our lack of willingness to compensate for the other's differences to meet halfway.

  • @GoomySmash
    @GoomySmash หลายเดือนก่อน

    Video starts at 2:52

  • @PumpkinSpicePretzels
    @PumpkinSpicePretzels ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd never considered before this video that I hadn't found The Big Bang funny because the point of the show may be mocking somebody with autistic/aspie traits...

  • @tangerinefizz11
    @tangerinefizz11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Our strengths are often our passions. We stay focused on a subject for so long that we can break new ground. Einstein said that it wasn't that he was smarter than anyone else, but that he stayed focused on a subject longer.

    • @PumpkinSpicePretzels
      @PumpkinSpicePretzels ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My problem is not just that I get hyper-focused on something to the detriment of everything else while making amazing accomplishments with it, but that I randomly stop caring completely 😆 or just forget why I was interested so much in it to begin with.

  • @trishapotter3118
    @trishapotter3118 ปีที่แล้ว

    One amazing guy 😊we love ❤️ you

  • @tangerinefizz11
    @tangerinefizz11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not only can medication help ease your anxiety, so can rational emotive therapy or cognitive behavioral therapy. Anxiety is often caused by irrational thinking, and they help you replace irrational thoughts with rational ones.

  • @anjachan
    @anjachan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have another handicap. I seem pretty fine to other people too. But Im not really ... I know that feeling.
    the wheelchair helps to move around. without it that person would really be disabled ^^

  • @elenafetter9690
    @elenafetter9690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for posting your videos! The information is so useful! I have a son with Autism...and even though he can help me understand some things I still need help understanding some of the challenges he experiences...thank you!!
    I love your positive attitude and passion in support of Auties...💜

  • @terrimeakin-rosario9189
    @terrimeakin-rosario9189 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i like the fact that youre talking quietly. it helps me absorb your knowlege

  • @karmicscope5259
    @karmicscope5259 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pleeeeease, for the love of all things, please stop playing the background music. It’s competing with your voice and I’m on sensory overload. I love your channel so much, but the background music is making me crazy.

    • @orionkelly
      @orionkelly  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is one of my first ever videos. I’ve made many changes since then.

    • @PumpkinSpicePretzels
      @PumpkinSpicePretzels ปีที่แล้ว +3

      LOL I know how you feel as someone with misophonia, but it's not too loud for me, and I hate no sound in the background because it makes annoying intermediary sounds like mouth or clothes movements more apparent, which drive me crazy in a quiet room. I can't stand listening to someone eat in an office, and someone shifting around in their chair a lot starts driving me crazy if I can't tell why they're doing it.

  • @DrakDivergent
    @DrakDivergent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved 99% of this. (And for that I gave the like)
    But please drop the "aspie" language.... "asperger's" is a functioning label, which you correctly identified as crap.
    Plus Hans Asperger was a Nazi, so, better to not use his name.
    But everything else you said was spot on.

    • @PumpkinSpicePretzels
      @PumpkinSpicePretzels ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love the term "aspie" 😆 and "spergie". I know they were made up online to criticize neurodivergents and people like me "spazzing" out or being incessant at particular things people thought were trivial or that I should move on from, but I've appropriated the terms and use them to describe my odd obnoxious behavior many times. I know they may be offensive to some so I'm careful and respectful at that point, but I have zero problem calling myself as I am, slang/slur or not.

    • @DrakDivergent
      @DrakDivergent ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PumpkinSpicePretzels Why do you love terms that honour a Nazi? gross

    • @laurensteenkamp7693
      @laurensteenkamp7693 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Drakdivergent actually as someone whom got their diagnosis of Aspergers/ high functioning autism pre 2013 (when DSM 5 was released with levels for the spectrum) I find the words aspie/ Aspergers very inclusive. Also pre 1994 (when DSM 4 was issued) the idea that Aspergers syndrome was high functioning autism would have been laughable, indeed (Rain man not withstanding) if you said autism to most people pre '94 you'd likely get a description of Kanner's autism (Asd level 3) given to you.
      I'd also like to point out that whilst it's true that Hans Asperger did send many sick and disabled children (including some he knew or thought to be autistic) to be either sterilised or euthanized there is some evidence to suggest that in specific cases (mainly those of autistic children) Asperger may have actually saved lives by writing recommendations for a child to be sent to psychiatric hospitals. Sadly at least one (possibly autistic) child Asperger recommended be sent to a ph died very shortly after arriving there, her (for it was a girl) death certificate claims she died of pneumonia. Now unfortunately the hospital where she was sent was known (even at the time) for keeping patients in appalling conditions so it's not unlikely that she may have caught a chill that turned into pneumonia, however as Asperger notes that she had epilepsy (a common co morbidity with autism) my feeling is she may have died due to incorrect treatment during or directly after a seizure

    • @Progressive_Alien
      @Progressive_Alien 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree, "aspie" is also used to separate autistic people and contributes to the "Aspie Supremacy" ideologies. The term is considered ableist.

  • @ANNIEIEIO
    @ANNIEIEIO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your videos but this must be an older one? Because I can't watch with the music in the background I know it just there's something about it it makes my skin crawl it distracts me I just wanted to stop before anyting else in my life continues.

  • @JohnDoe-ef3wo
    @JohnDoe-ef3wo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phenibut helps