Control (2007) - scene comparisons
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I was part of the movie, I was a roadie with the band best experience ever. The lads were really lovely and very talented, the guy who played the drums was an actor and learned the drums also the guitarist was an actor too he learned to play guitar but bassist was a guitar player and did bass very well and lead man was in a band but was not an actor apparently picked cos he looked like Ian. Since this film he has done more and is a really good actor.
cool! thanks for sharing! :)
You are welcome. Just wanted to tell you guys on here, who love Joy Division they really were good! Also all my band equipment i.e. Stands Microphones, wires and pa were hired from me for the whole film. When I seen the riot after ian couldn't sing cos had just come out of hospital from attempted Suicide, I thought wtf hahaha in the film all my equipment was laying all around the room and Ian was leaning on my big stage speaker, in that scene after the riot scene lol
Many thanks for posting this! Incredible actors. The attention to details was superb. I absolutely salute them for learning how to play the songs. I hope more people will appreciate Joy Division as much as me
He channeled Ian Curtis, Incredible. Most amazing performance ever.
But ultimately nothing can replace Ian Curtis' intensity, emotion, power.
Omg you did very well I’m glad to see some experiences from people 😊
The budget for cigarettes in this movie was 375,000 dollars
It's really rare that youtube comment makes me laugh out loud.
This one also didn't.
Just kidding, it did.
@@nijenego1 me too buddy
hilarious
How much on skins?
British Pounds *
I feel, Control is an extremely well made film; being filmed in black and white, made a lot of sense. As a majority of their career, Joy Division was photographed in b/w.
He deserved a fucking Oscar for that performance
Of course, unfortunately everyone moves for fame/money & clearly Ian Curtis is not Freddie Mercury... it's a shame, but as long as those of us who appreciate the good continue to appreciate it, it will be fine I suppose.
The Oscar didn't deserved Ian Curtis. Never ever.
I'd say the biggest difference is that Ian looked quite ill and a bit desperate. The paleness, the circles under the eye, the tilt of the eyebrow...
@ Nicole Williams Great observation.. I see it as well
You are 100% correct. He always looked miserable and ill.
@@financemanager74017 Soo sad 😧
@@RonnyKimmel0815 I totally thought he was until I read more about him. I was shocked to find out he wasn't . The video that he's outside and can't go on stage is why I thought the same . Thought he was dopesick.. From what's I read it was all depression and I believe he drank. This is only what I read. I could be wrong...
penny brown from what I read he had severe epilepsy and began having seizures in 1978. He was on a lot of medication for it and I believe his overall condition caused him to be moodier overall and depressed, which also led to drinking and irregular sleep patterns. It's no wonder he looked so ill.
Control was one of the best music biopics ever made. The dude that Played Ian actually channeled Ian Curtis. He must have studied every tape of Ian there ever was. He nailed his mannerisms and dancing but even took it further by actually capturing things like the way Ian would have his eyes half closed in a trance like state. There isn't a whole lot of Ian Curtis video that I have seen the best is the Granada stuff so it's great to see the everyday Ian Curtis sitting at his desk at work.
These types of movies either work or they don't and fail hard. This movie is an example of how it's done perfectly. While watching it I actually believed I was watching Joy Division on and off stage. Especially the way Barney Rubble was so into himself and his just standing still bit on stage to Hooky's long strap low hanging high playing perfect bass and Stephen's giant chin and nervousness all the while playing drums like a machine.
" The dude that Played Ian actually channeled Ian Curtis" No he didn't.
The actor did a great job, but obviously doesn't have Ian's exhausted look and haunted eyes !
Sam Riley has brown eyes, and Ian's were blue and "haunted"
They really needed to give the actor a few Valium or something, just to help him get that look ;)
Ians eyes were exhausted and haunted with dark rings under because he was a Heroin addict. The actor should have copped a habit just to be more realistic and in character.
@@kmmining1359
You stupid stupid person.....
@@lavieenrose5954 it was clearly a joke
Transmission from the original live performance to the movie adaptation despite different sets was almost perfect. Sam Riley from looks to mannerisms made his Ian Curtis version feel like a reincarnation.
Simon Riley really looks likes Ian in this movie
@@willwolf4627 Learn that his name is Sam Riley and learn how to fucking spell
@@dextrsoul Yeah, i improved my English in these months. Deleted comment.
@@willwolf4627 that’s great, but also, his name is SAM RILEY
@@dextrsoul SAM RILEY.
A few times I've genuinely mistaken the actor for Ian at a glance. Amazing work. Ian has a more... Watery look than the actor but still wonderful
That guy was born to be Ian lol
I was Ian's final nutt
Joey Dangerfield is he secretly reborn?
Sydney O'Bier - I thought Sean Harris was a lot better as Ian.
Sean was shit, he couldnt even dance like Ian
@@Tomokohusband1998 what how can u say that... He has it down to a tee... He great.
Sam really did his homework
This is the only music film I’ve seen where I truly felt I was watching the original band. All of the actors were incredible in their on stage performances.
Sam Riley must have studied his arse off to get Ian so bang on. I've got the DVD but the scenes edited together give a good example to anyone who hasn't seen the film, and for those of us around at the time, it can bring back the feeling of just how intense and tortured Ian was. Great editing BTW.
thank you! :)
What do you mean “tortured” ?
Roxas Castillo Epilepsy, the plethora of perscripson barbiturates he was on, was clearly severely depressed as well
I notice some here saying things like "you can't do Ian" etc. This is grossly unfair, these guys have done a truly amazing job - and they have done so much to demonstrate the talent of not just Ian, but the band as a whole. I am eternally grateful to the work of these guys for keeping the memory of Joy Division strong (especially in this hollow musically empty time we live in now).
I became of fan of the band after the movie. I knew nothing before and after the movie I was in love! :)
I was a fan in '79. I thought they would fade away in my mind after a while. But seem more relevant today than ever.
"hollow musical time"? You must be blind, there's plenty of great bands and artists out there, don't listen to what's on the radio, look for it on Internet
People that say music is hollow and empty now don't put any effort into looking.
@@ComradeLavender I was a fan of Joy Division before the film, as were many of my friends, and we were all of us amazed at just what an authentic and convincing job was done for the film. Fair play to Sam, usually "biopics" of people are awful - they don't look like them, they don't sound like them, but Sam really got it right.
Nobody can portray Ian`s EYES! When I first saw the TV performance of Control I was flattened just by his magic eyes!
the morning ian died, debbie dreamt of the song The End, specifically the part "ill never look into your eyes again". she woke up, drove home, and found ian dead. gives me goosebumps every time i think about it
@@DafneMarchesan where did you read that? it's interesting
Look i made 444 likes LOL
@@exhumation.666 Touching from a Distance by Deborah Curtis, towards the end of the book
@@DafneMarchesan oh wow thanks u mate
they did an absolutely amazing job w this film and the actor has an uncanny resemblance to ian
PIIMAN he looks a lot like him. It's amazing. The only thing missing is the sadness in his eyes. But that can't be faked, or acted out. That's genuine. The actor did great.
Lulu Lu I was literally going to say the same thing. When Ian performed, you could look into his eyes and see the pain he was in.
This is wonderful! The only thing that I found about his portrayal of dear Ian is that he was a bit too confident, Ian always struck me as someone not too comfortable in his own skin - and was a bit unsure of himself. He just screamed it while on stage, he'd lose control of himself and let it all out while on the mic. Whereas with the actor that wasn't fully embodied, I feel. Still an amazing film & a great portrayal nonetheless!
Thats an interesting note. I can definitely see it. I would attribute it to the fact that its a movie: so probably the director / writers / movie studio made that conscious choice since they're the ones in control usually.
The accent was wrong too - Ian Curtis did not have a Yorkshire accent.
Sam Riley is now married to Alexandra Maria Lara, who played Ian's love interest Annik Honore in the movie. Annik Honore sadly died in 2014.
That's quite eerie... 😨
Jeff Walker lucky bastard lol..
Lara played Hitler's secretary Traudl Junge in Downfall (2004).
She’s not dead. They are still married and they have a son called Ben
@@thumbsuckered Annik Honore, the journalist/photographer portrayed by Alexandra Maria Lara played in Control died in 2014. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annik_Honor%C3%A9
Sam Riley's a legend, it really feels like he *is* Ian sometimes
i keep needing to remind myself that it's an actor, i remember the first time i really dug into this movie i ended up searching all over for behind the scenes footage just because i wanted to see Sam, and all you can see in the movie is Ian
i guess i just wanted confirmation that Sam existed, really
I was totally bought into it too. He did a phenomenal job. I felt I was watching Joy Division.
Probably missed by many, but I really appreciated how you split the audio between the two sequences - left & right.
Actually one of the best movies I had ever seen
Right? It's amazing when you consider that it's the directors debut movie.
Franz Müller well Citizen Kane was orson wells debut film as well and is considered the best film ever
I feel the same! Best wishes for you from russia. I still miss Ian, he was a big artist!
As a bass player, I appreciate when actors really study what their characters played and how they did it. All of them look like they really play their parts, but there is just no way of faking how Stephen Morris made those 16ths on the hi-hat look like 64ths, lol Great recreation of a great band.
What is a 16th and 64th?
the guy who made Control is the same guy that made the video for Atmosphere, Anton Corbijn, dutch guy and a massive fan of JD
He also photographed the band and is responsible for many of the most famous portraits of Ian.
Corbjin is just one of the greatest photographers still alive...
Oh damn! Didn't know this. I assume you mean the originsl video from the 80s right? the one with the jawa/kkk looking ppl?
I've always said he was like Ian but watching both at the same time .it's so eerie to 👍 but amazing his similarities he deserved to play Ian it's like he's reincarnated . God bless ian watching anything with him always brings a tear to my eye. My brother killed himself 5 years ago. And my dad died in 1983 .in an epileptic fit . I'm just glad now it's been made more aware the illness . Xx rip 40 years on we LOVE you .
You can really see the sickness Ian’s face, I think that’s part of the beauty of his performance is you can see someone despite their struggle creating beautiful art.
Loved this film it brought me to tears. RIP Ian Curtis ❤
Just seeing this movie first time. I am old enough to have been a fan when Ian was alive. Obviously you can’t reproduce exactly but this is one hell of a good job, i do see the emotional aspects in his eyes, you can’t reproduce everything. I always had the sense Ian would take his own life. Sadly I have known other, true friends that were great artist, but something inside them lead them to take their lives.
I know we've had some 'great' music biopics this last few years but 'Control' was really on the ball for me.
I'd really like such an honest view of Nirvana and Prince's life
Saw this film tonight for the first time. Brilliant film and the acting was out of this world.
thank you for making this! so cool that the band actually learned the songs, and sam riley acts exactly like ian. one of the best films i've ever seen.
This movie was phenomenal, they nailed Joy Division's whole vibe & aesthetic. Attention to detail was amazing. Sam Riley was incredible as Ian Curtis, he deserved an Oscar imo
Really impressive! How do you find four lookalikes who are simultaneously soundalikes and great actors as well?! Incredible!
I've listened to every Joy Division song thousands of times and it still makes me emotional. Time to rewatch Control now!
Unbelievable. Never seen an actor capture the accuracy like sam.
Really enjoyed this movie. Very well done. If the actors ever toured as a Joy Division tribute band I would definitely go.
I would sometimes, going back and forth between the versions, get mixed up on who was the real Joy Division. I am not a fan who has seen all these videos a hundred times. And they really took the time to get people that looked so much like them. Some movies the people behind them don't seem to care about that, or think it matters, but it does make it more powerful when you really forget that you are not watching the actual people,
It's when you're watching Control, get to the end, then suddenly they're talking to an alive-and-well Sam Riley and you think, "Wow, he's still alive!"
De longe a melhor retratação de Ian Curtis....perfeito Sam Riley, merece muitos elogios pela obra prima realizada!!!! Uma banda que em 4 anos de atividade influenciou e continua influenciando muitos músicos... músicos mesmo, não enganações!! O melhor sem dúvidas!!
One of my all time favorite bands. Ian Curtis passed a few years before I was born but he had a way with words. I’m happy some of the members were able to move on and still have success, they were all so talented.
Fantastic film. The guy that played Ian was brilliant. He did him justice and that is saying something.
You know you've done something right when the only things separating the clips from the movie and the old footage is Peter using a genuine Rick instead of his cheap copy Hondo Rick, and the guitarist playing the same chords but on different strings.
This movie must've been very well researched!
Control had one minor mistake. When transmission in played, in the actual tv recording, they are supposed to play shadowplay. Granada TV actually
Amazing editing. I went from being convinced I heard Ian in my left ear and Sam in my right, then it dawned on me after a while it was the other way around.
brilliant reconstruction!
even in 2021 they still sound like they could of come out this year! Its like they are the blueprint for all indie music.
The guy who played Ian deserve d an oscar
Unfortunately, popularity determines oscars :/. Not that I'm saying Sam Riley doesn't deserve an oscar, but wish this movie and Joy Division in general was more well known.
Sam Riley totally nailed it as Ian Curtis and he could truly sing 👏👏
this is what a biopic should be like. this film was amazing
I saw the film in the cinema as part of an audience of three. I remember thinking they couldn't have picked a better actor for the role of Ian. I also remember that I couldn't keep my feet still as the music was so superb.
What a fantastic editing job, matching the movie to archive footage is genius level.
thanks
It was an amazing film. It didn't need to capture every scene perfectly, we already have the footage. By god, it captured the energy of the band. I thought all four members of Joy Division were excellent, particularly Peter Hook.
He was so beautiful🖤✨ I can’t believe they found someone that looked just like him.
he played him really well but they shouldve emphasised his eyes and exhausted expression to match ians
You are very severe!
Fantastic movie however
they glossed over his condition and the toll it took. The medications did as much damage as the illness. The side effects alone were enough to emotionally cripple anyone. Let alone a 23 year old with a wife, a child and on the verge of super stardom. Kudos to Deborah for not focusing on all the agony she must have endured. Loving someone who is incapable of loving you back is a very heavy weight to carry.
She certainly had every right to be upset with him at the time but it was a bit of a surprise to read her book and hear how much ill will she harbors towards him.
His portrayal is so much better than the guy who plays him in 24 hour party people . I never really knew the story behind the band, the lead singer or their story in music. I knew of one song. Watched control and now I'm obsessed by the whole story and rise of the band.
Riley captured Ian in opposite ways off and onstage but at the same time expressing his sadness and pain in scenes where he's either giving it all on stage or suffering seizures. Control is an amazing and heartbreaking story of a British music legend. Gone too soon for so many reasons . Forever remembered by millions more.
Jesus Christ Sam Riley is beyond amazing !
The original "" Something Else" programme that also had the jam on it was a kids TV show "Something else for young teens" named after the Sid Vicious (cover)..song , crazy to think Joy Division were on kids TV and why that was neve r shown in the film,I saw then twice as Wasaw supporting other bands and then in 1979 as joy Division and they were amazing!! Along with Magazine the best bands I saw at Eric's punk club in Liverpool in 1978/79 (I was 14/15) if I remember right it cost 1pound twenty to get in ..Lol we also saw the Clash,Damned 999 X-ray spex,suicide,the slits,Magazine,the buzzcocks,adverts,999,Rezilloes,Souxsie and the banshees the Fall John Cooper clarke,gang of 4,the cure, the strangers,steel pulse,Elvis Costello reckless eric,Ian dury and the blockheads, I was so lucky to be in the right place at the right time the under 21s on a Sat afternoon ( one of the great things punk gave us! ..under21 gigs with no booze( we got our own on the way ..lol )
Love that movie. I just wish they had a in color version. I do understand however why they did it in black and white to catch the era at that time. My favorite band and movie.
Yeah, because movies were in black n white in 1979/1980. :>)
this is a clear document of how an great Actor take seriously the role. simply amazing.
Yeah absolutely!!! - so glad you made this vid. - Big thumbs up!! - I thought the movie was a bit of a generalised cartoon of what really happened, BUT - the acting of Ian Curtis on the mic was truly amazing: and totally indistinguishable - he must have been channeling Ians spirit - no doubt! - thanks again, great work! 👍👍👍👍 !!
The actor did a bang up job portraying Ian Curtis according to these clips, i haven't seen the movie just these but he's well on point.
Also, what a great front man, everything you want for a guy to take centre stage.
Amassing truly you see often Elvis impersonators and you think hum but this guy who takes Ian Curtis is just amazing what a tribute to the man who was a true great and sadly will never see again, rest in peace you are living again through someone else .
Thank you so much for making this
you welcome
Always thought the Bernard Sumner casting was spot on
The Transmission comparison made me feel really weird
It is astounding watching the side by side comparison. The actors/musicians in Control are a reincarnation of Joy Division. The cast should tour as a Joy Division tribute band. People would flock to see them!
that drummer in the movie when transmission, just like see steph young again. the gesture omg
Wow this gave me head chills thanks for making this
This is incredibly hard to do! Amazing work from the crew who recreated the shots (with more of a cinematic look of course) but got to give it to the actors my gosh the accuracy of the moves even the stance of the them just playing their instruments, but you know the dude playing Ian rehearsed shot by shot how to move
2019 and still have goose bumps
First 3 words i heard uttered in that awsome rift...."Radio...........live transmi-sion. that was it, i was hooked.
This movie introduced me to JD. And it is such a beautiful movie too. RIP Ian
same here
This movie is amazing the comparison and likeness is mindblowing
The actor fucking nailed it
This was well put together. Excellent.
There is no comparison, Ian's dancing was pure nervous tension and anxiety and also purely natural and unforced
Ian's dancing was nor pure nervous tension and anxiety . He was channeling something from another dimension, and it has not died.
Are you dumb ? Do you know what acting even mean ?
He-Mans Furry Trunks lmao what else was he meant to do he’s fucking acting
Lmao, like others mentioned, the guys an actor in the film...
I have watched Control tons of time i wish i could find a store bought copy but ill be afraid ill watch it too much lol its a very impressive movie Sam Riley did a good job at sounding like Ian
Shipped from England via Ebay. Find a vendor with a good rep. Got mine.
This guy did a great job being Ian 👍
found this dvd at a pawn shop.. had no idea who joy division were..
If ever an Oscar was deserved it should go to Sam Riley. I watched Control last weekend for the first time and felt like I was witnessing real footage it was so well done. I’m awestruck. And disturbed. Phenomenal film.
awesome edition dude !! well done , thanx .
And What a mindblowing job of those guys who played the joy division roles
Underrated film even outside the Joy Division fandom.
Sam Riley was amazing but it's impossible for any living human to have that ghostly look Ian did
The whole band of actors nailed it
i am depressed, i have been listening to a few Joy Division songs for a couple of years now and i never knew the sad story about the lead singer :(
Great mannerism, only thing he wasn't able to mimic was the hopelessness and sorrow in Ian's eyes.
Sam Riley did such a good job in this roll, but I think it would be impossible for anyone to replicate the anguish in Ians eyes.
Some of these are a little bit different.
When tony talked at the beginning of "transmission" in control, this is the "intro" of "Shadowplay" which they also played at "something else"
And where they playing "leaders of men" its actually "at a later date", because Bernhard says at the beginning "does anybody remind rudolf hess?" and at the live show of "at a later date" it was the same.
Anyway, i fucking love this movie!
I once watched Control, 24 Hour Party People, and Joy Division (the documentary) back to back. The differences were very interesting.
Such a good actor.
3:49 the Synare2 analog electronic drum! I've got the same one.
Lucky!
this is really sad he always looks in danger
Naaa it the creater of raw power if he wasn't born no more raw power
Seriously, hats the fuck off to Sam Riley, he absolutely killed it in this role
Un magnífico actor que interpreta una performance espectacular... Bravo!!!
Buenísimo
I picked a good time to discover this video. Today would've been Ian's *66th* birthday!
Movies about someone that you've listened to or watched for your whole life never do what you hope they will.
CONTROL wasn't one of those movies. Sam really channeled Ian . Its not perfect but much better than I ever expected
agreed
best music biopic in my opinion
Sam Riley's performance was superb. Few musical biopics really capture the artist but his did, and maybe Rami Malek's performance of Freddie Mercury.
Please, compare Phineas and Ferb: Star Wars with A New Hope.
So perfect, perfectly perfect
I would prefer the actor instead of the real Ian...
Good job
Joy Division Forever!
I love the double track of the orig and the film it sounds more full