Holographic Projections - Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 มี.ค. 2018
- Are holographic projections a thing? How are they done - if they even exist?
The holographic projection of a 3D body on stage (or in a cave in a far away universe) is nothing that can be achieved with ordinary video projectors and the means of classical theatre. But there is an agreement between audience and creator that an elaborate arrangement of layers on stage and a convincing 3D like lit projected content could be accepted as a „hologram“.
Have a look at the Gerriets Hologauze: www.gerriets.com/de/spezialtu...
Semitransparent mirrors @ seco sign: goo.gl/2kuXWq
Or the classical Tüll: www.gerriets.com/de/produkte/...
Swanlake @ Theater Basel: goo.gl/pvFb81
Marilyn @ Staatsoper Hannover: goo.gl/7kWYRJ
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Just discovered your chanel! incredible content. can't believe i have not discovered it earlier amazing :)
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wow this helps a lot. Trying to find the best material for projection that could mix with the actors on stage.
Hey! Your're video was exactly what I was looking for. :D
For a play in my school I thought of trying something simelar in cheap and small - if possible. It would be an experiment. :D
Maybe you could give me some advice: During the play smartphone videos (which the actors watch at some points) should be displayed as a hologramm instead of a basic projection, visible for the audience. That would allows us to play out the videos integrated in a cool way, without needing a disturbing screen next to the stage.
I thought of using basic Tüll to keep the costs at a minimum. Do you think that could work for us and what color(black/white) would recommend?
Just wanted to ask you as an expert, whether that might be too ambitious before spending time and money. Thanks a lot. :)
Hey Luis! Thanks for watching!
Sounds like a very cool idea to have this kind of footage appearing in a less "flat" manor.
It highly depends on the lighting. No light should touch the Tüll. Otherwise you see it and the illusion is void. So, the Tüll in the front, actors behind lit from the sides and then the projection (if possible the projector shoots either from very low or from the sides so it doesn't light the actors too much. Or very high, touching the ground.) But playing around with the lights You'll find a good mixture.
The color depends highly on the strength of the projector. Of course a black Tüll will not pick up too much ambient light and thus remain "invisible". But a less strong projector might benefit from a brighter Tüll.
Often the best solution is a grey Tüll - a compromise between visibility and projection strength.
If the Audience is very close, a Feintüll (like this one www.gerriets.com/at/figaro-feintuell) is great. If the stage and the projected surface is larger a classic pee tulle (www.gerriets.com/at/parsifal-erbstuell) or Gobelin Tüll (www.gerriets.com/at/gobelintuell) looks more graphical and has a stronger contrast.
Those links lead You to Gerriets. There are many more manufacturers. But I like to work with Gerriets a lot. I'm not being payed to promote their stuff. But my opinion is highly biased.
Good luck with Your project and do share a video or two of the work.
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Thanks for your quick answer! :D
I appreciate your detailed feedback and further insides in how to achieve such an effect.
Sadly I doubt that our school is willing to fund the Tüll you recomended. It's just too expensive. Maybe we try to use normal Tüll (acctually used for clothes) which is a lot cheaper but probably not good enough.
If we do so, I will let you know whether we were successful. Thanks for your help. ;)
Hey Luis! Sure, it's a little pricy because it's a flameproof theatre material. (Keep in Mind that those prizes are per meter, but the pieces a several meters wide.)
If You like just head over to www.7pc.de and mail me some details.
Nice. Thank you for the info.
Hej Philipp,
very nice work. Can you tell me the Name of the first Materail again? With the reflecting Surface?
Greets,
Mathias.
You're talking about the Holo Gauze? www.gerriets.com/de/spezialtuell-holo-gauze-fuer-3d-projektionen
Hit me up on mail if You plan on buying some. ;] Might get You a special deal.
The mirror thing before is a semitransparent film mirror by /seco-sign.de/ and an Optiblack behind it.
Came for the content and stayed for the content but your oddly mesmerizing eyes kept my attention, good sellers those peepers. Idk what they’re selling but I’m buying
Thanks so much for this video! so helpful. and entertaining too!
I've learned a lot from this, very inspiring!
Just can't get the staff anymore :)
@TheWiseMonkey8888 The staff? Give us a call. We can provide contact to able people all over the world. ;]
hello , thanks a lot for the video. I am exhibiting a video art work and wanna use for that the pepper ghost effect . have been searching for a long time for a glass (106x125 cm) which don t reflect two images and is payable. just failed to find something. I appreciate a lot if you have any suggestion for that?
Thanks for watching! And another one. I see why I have "peppers ghost tutorial" written in my note pad. Try Gerriets pepper's ghost effect film in the meantime. I'll do a tutorial ASAP ... when I'm done with the other ones.
thanks for your reply ;)
Hey Philip,
Your video has inspired me to create my first holographic dance theatre storytelling show. I have been scouring your work and trying to understand how this style of holography works and I wanted to ask, how do I create a holograph that is essentially an outline of my body that I dance with? I want to know if the actual holograph can be something like electrical impulses as opposed to trying to recreate an exact mirror image copy of myself? any help will be greatly appreciated.
I just wanted to also know what sort've equipment I should look into purchasing :)
If you plan to do this live an infra red camera and touchdesigner would be my first choice to buy.
The image can be anything that only uses parts of the canvas. Lines and curves are certainly fine.
@@philipp7pc amazing thank you
@@Samaterahmed hey, let me know if you ended up doing this! I'm a dancer and trying to get into vfx so this would be cool to know about it
Hi! Thanks for u explaination! I wondering know what's the difference between black tul and white tul. Ibhope to use black tul to generate a false curtain to mask the transition of caracters on stage. Thank you again
Hi. Thanks for watching.
Black might pick up too little light to really cover the actions behind. While white might pick up too much light from the ambient and destroys the illusion. I like grey.
And then it hugely depends on the material and how much it covers. Gobelin Tulle might be best.
But also have a look at voile. Holographic Projections - Part 2
th-cam.com/video/uQezKfD558s/w-d-xo.html
Thanks, I had thought it was a type of one way glass, but I couldn’t see any - now I know it’s a mesh 🙂
In love with the video content! I’m extremely interested in learning these type of things and wanted to ask what course do I have to enrol in university to learn about it?
(Digital media arts?/ visual effects?)
Well, there are not too many places to learn mapping. Either YT or maybe enroll at the Düsseldorf University of applied sciences (HSD) where I'm teaching at the moment.
Also im planning to offer more knowledge and 1-0-1 on some platform. (Recommendations are welcome. )
@@philipp7pc Udemy?
I found that construction netting is the cheapest option at £30 for 3m x 50m although trampoline knit mesh light is more like what you're showing but that's £13 a meter
thanks for this video man!
Thanks for watching.
Here in Germany they like to call it mesh. It’s what those huge posters on walls are printed on, no?
It’s kind of glossy. So keep that in mind.
Tüll by the way isn’t that expensive. But of course also not that cheap.
Definitely will look into that trampoline net.
Thanks for this information. I am looking for an easy transportable mesh for projection lighting - can you recommend a material where I don't have to sell the car to buy it?!
Dale Foulser Thanks for watching. The tulles I'm using here are not that expensive (depends on the car). If you don't exceed a certain size the unconfectioned material is pretty ok in prize.
@@philipp7pc Can you tell me where you purchased this mesh screen?
Thanks.
Depending on the size and the region you can access them directly at the shop of Gerriets www.gerriets.com/de/produkte/buehnentextilien/tuelle-und-netze there are different stores for the different regions. If you have any difficulty obtaining one in your region pm me and I'll forward it to the guys to find a solution.
@@philipp7pc is that different than 2D image projected on a mirror then reflected to form 3D looking image on stage as they did with tupac? Whats the difference then , thank u friend
Hi. Thank You for video. Magnificent
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching.
I came to the Channel with the Intensive trying to figure out, For the Love of it, how to maybe project a tornado on stage for The Wizard of Oz using holographs. The shot though that you did with the fog and the material and the image almost looked like it was a real storm on stage. I would love to see how to explore that more
Hi, thanks for watching!
Well, I suppose you watched this one Holographic Projections - Part 2
th-cam.com/video/uQezKfD558s/w-d-xo.html but I'm planning on a mir tutorial like clip about the tech soon.
Great video! Is there any way to make a hologram part of a self-produced show, meaning on a small budget? I have tons of ideas but still, need guidance and tips on how to go about it! Thanks!
If you're on a budget try to cut corners with cheap material. Holographic Projections - Part 2
th-cam.com/video/uQezKfD558s/w-d-xo.html
Would tulle be the fabric used to fill dresses?
Kind of. You might want to chose something more fire resistant and larger in scale for theatre use: www.gerriets.com/us/catalogsearch/result/?q=t%C3%BCll
If we use the scrim and the audience is “in the round,” Would it work as a double hologram, both in front and behind with a projector in front and behind the screen?
Tricky, if you want to avoid double images.
@@philipp7pc thank you, does the light seep through to the other side of the screen then? Could that be the issue? Unless theres a material that’s not opaque but still thin and reflective.
Sorry my brain is just running through some thought processes.
Miror and cmera, and MRI and gravity (hydraulic array)
Is there a way to make an interactive holographic projection?
There is. Thanks for the request. I put it on the list.
Thanks !!!
You're welcome. I'm glad to help. Share if you like.
Nice,we have less thicker one and high gain better effect mesh I think 😊
Do you have a brand or name?
thank you so much i couln't find anything on youtube aobut his wich wasn't startwars stuff
Genius
Sound. And light echo interferennce from pytamid like surface
Rival Particle Board Extrude Bilk Touch
he looks like Ryan
Rainbow is the first hologram
Miku
obviously you have not heard of light field lab
Nope. But I'm open to all new technologies if someone can provide me with a person who wants to explain and answer questions. It looks a bit similar to the early 3D screens we saw at FMX 2008
@@philipp7pc i did not expect you to reply ... i'm so please. I'm consulting for a new theme park.
i also like circus roncalli from germany
Didn't Circus Knie have a show with projections?
@@philipp7pc not sure ill check them out
That trumpet intro that hammers channels is soo terribly assembled that it is literally abusive. Its nauseating and I cannot begin to tell you how unappreciative I am of it. I hope I never hear it again.
There's a far worse one at the start of this one: th-cam.com/video/UjF8vHD0f2o/w-d-xo.html ;]
Very good but please asign more time to objects and content than yourself in your videos! You said for example this is camera, this is miror, surface! Projector! Only in 2-3 seconds! Didn't stop on them! Very fast! Then you filmm8ng yourself in almost 80-90% of your videos! Thank you for your work anyway.
Thanks for watching and for this observation. I'm still trying out different formats.
not holographic juste reflect on glass... stop to use this name!!
As I say in the video: There are no holograms. But it's also not necessarily reflection on glass.
Learned nothing from this video! It was very un-cohesive.
Still, thanks for watching.
I agree, it would need a more straight forward tutorial. But what was it You wished to learn?
@@philipp7pc was simply looking to see a clear example of projecting onto a transparent screen and where to source such screens. Saw an example in person many years ago in a tapas bar in Atlanta. Never paid a lot of attention to it, but remember it looking very cool. It seemed to have been a simple ball chain curtain. Now I have a need to get more details and can't find a clear example online. Everything I've seen online is vague and from entities that seem to be startups. Rosebrand & Shimmerscreen are the closest I've come to sources. Working with a very small budget and not looking to break the bank. Thx
@@mmedia2678 Semitransparent materials like Voile, Tulle, and thin pvc are a very frequently used projection ground. Voile (like here: th-cam.com/video/4wVNzwr77NY/w-d-xo.html) is by far the cheapest option www.gerriets.com/de/trevira-cs-voile-300-eventtextilien
Right now I'm working on a piece about Voile and "holographic" illusions using it.
This here th-cam.com/video/GioVQi0pQ14/w-d-xo.html (minute 8:30) is a Bobbinet Tulle www.gerriets.com/us/parsifal-bobbinet lit from the other side.
And this here: th-cam.com/video/5KZABhAKlZ8/w-d-xo.html is so called fine tulle.
I should point out that I order most of my stuff at Gerriets because then I can be sure it's ok to use in a theatre.
@@philipp7pc Thanks for this info
This is painful to watch.
And still You did. Thanks for watching. ;]
@@philipp7pc TRUE DAT!
This must have been the most boring, uninformative whatever on holographic projection ever made. It is less than nothing, really.
Sorry You didn't find the information You were looking for.