Testing a CD-R After Nearly Three Decades. Will this disc created in the 90s still work?
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- Join me on a journey back in time as I unearth a CD-R from the depths of my storage, untouched for over 27 years. In this video, we’ll discover if this relic from the past can stand the test of time. Is optical media the reliable archive we once believed? Let’s find out together if it’s still operational after all these years and discuss the viability of CDs for long-term data preservation.
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Remember those guys in high school who sold burned CDs? It was pretty expensive to get a CD burner at first, then they got much cheaper, of course.
I still have 7" open reel tapes from the 1970s that play!
My oldest CD-R is 32 years old, from 1992, and still plays. I remember that when I made it, blanks cost about £30 each and the actual CD recorders cost about £3000. I worked at a radio station at the time; it wasn't a computer-based burner, it was a standalone device that was basically an oversized rack-mounted audio CD player with professional inputs and outputs.
I can beat that, my oldest are from 1991, printed from an external SCSI drive that recorded at an amazing 1X speed, LOL. They are stored in a humidity controlled cool basment and they still work. I just can't be bothered shredding and dumping them.
@@rjbook51that's literally as old as I am.
Domestic ones were crap and rarely worked properly. Why everyone is rosy eyed about them defeats me. IMHO it was crappest ever and worse: it promised much more and delivered zero. Unsurprised it died
@@rjbook51
I have no reason to doubt that you have some old CD-R discs, but I seriously doubt that you made them in 1991. Sounds like your timeline is off by about 5 or 6 years.
@@rjbook511x speed is about 35-45 mins to burn a full CD
I still pull out my dj cds from 2004,all play perfectly and they've been well bashed!
Thanks man
CD-Rs? You used good brands like Kodak, Taiyo or Mitsui then.
I have seven Memorex discs I burned in 1995. Still work. :-)
I have photos from a 1994 trip stored on a Kodak PhotoCD and it still reads like new.
I'd still save it somewhere else, just in case.
@@beartackle In 2016 I had begun the tedious process of converting all images from the special Kodak 16 bit format to JPEG (8 bit per channel) but a HD crash resulted in all my work getting lost. Nowadays HDR is becoming more popular and I am waiting for a new image standard supporting more than 8 bit to become the norm to do the conversion again.
Kodak and other companies indicate these discs are good for more than 100 years and it sure looks like it is true.
@@beartackle CD and DVD even Blu-Ray is more reliable than Cloud and or HDD, SSD storage space combined( as you have to have a backup of a backup of a backup of a backup) Recently to my own dismay backed up old photos from an old laptop onto a brand new 4TB HDD (without Backing them up to a DVD disk) did reset of the windows on the laptop as I was donating it to someone. two weeks later my sister phoned asked if I still had some of the old photos of my Niece and Nephew from a vacation we all were on as she had lost her drive, I said yeah I just backed them up a while ago and I would load them on a cloud service and she can download them that way,,,,, Well That was the plan, I plug in the BRAND NEW 4TB HDD and its DEAD, Used it only once to backup the photos nothing else and the next time its dead unrecoverable tried everything. even sent it back to SEAGATE and all they could do was send me a new one as it was still under warranty... The photos are gone... There is no HDD or cloud storage that is going to keep your stuff as safe as a CD or DVD will for longer than you will live.
My friend worked at a ISP and his boss had a CD-R Burner. Which took about 1 hour to burn an entire 650 MB - 700 MB CD-R. Back around this time in 97. I didn't get my first real PC until 2003. A DELL Dimension 8250 Custom Built. I still have old CD-R data, that still can be read and copied from, dating back to 2003. I still burn BD-R's for data archive. Discs are much better to store data, in the context of, they can't be tampered with, once burned. Unlike a Flash-Drive which people can put viruses on. Unless you physically destroy the disc. I use SSD's and HDD's for backup as well.
It may come down to the quality of the media itself. My old print shop had archive CDs from the late 90s to early 2000s that experience disc rot around the early to mid 2010s.
I've recently been using 20+ yr old discs to replay some retro games. I have not had any issues with the discs themselves. Mostly driver and OS problems. All the music 'came back' no problem. I realize they are not permanent backup solutions but they seem to be holding up.
My oldest CDR I have was burned in 1998 and is filled with MP3's and a copy of Winamp. Just tried it out last week and reads just fine. Media was made by HP.
Winamp winamp....it really whips the Lamas ass!
Winamp, now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time...
1:40 IIRC, CDs are conventionally read with an infrared laser, DVDs with a red laser, and Blu-rays with a blue laser. In a DVD drive, the red laser is typically used to read CDs "well enough". And in a Blu-ray drive, reading of DVDs/CDs is done by the inclusion of a red laser.
It confuses me how many say that a CD will only be properly read with an infrared laser, same with Laserdisc, but Laserdiscs in special started out with orange helium-neon lasers, then switched to IR ones, and CDs should be the same physical mechanism (meanwhile entirely different logically, Laserdisc being analog even).
Man when i tell you i saw your video in my recommended video's to watch i tried to find it when i wanted to initially and couldn't for nearly 10 minutes. Thank God i found it again.
Thanks for being persistent.
Does *planned obsolescence* involve all new devices? I mean at the rate we change our mobile phones, PCs and peripherals, most wouldn't even notice how fast they fail these days. For example, our TVs have been either "upgraded" to ones with better features or because a unit stopped working, whereas an ancient CRT TV and refrigerator my grandparents bought decades ago still work.....
Could making optical media deliberately less reliable than they used to be (I too have CD-Rs from the 90s that still work, whereas some recently burnt DVD-Rs from a "reputed" brand have become unreadable within 5years) force people to opt for cloud based storage or to buy M-Disks?
We had discs back in the day that would be dead within days. We discorvered how to read who the manufacturer was and the die type with Nero, never bought Chinese discs ever again. I think it was TAIYO YUDEN made disc that were the best, usually made in Japan stamped on the outter wrapper somewhere. I can't get my brain to give up the other info of what was good and bad. CMC chemicals seems to ring a bell too, I think they were the good Rytek discs. MCC, I think was Mitsubishi Chemical Corp... All good. But there was some really bad stinkers too. Glad I have nothing to do with any of that now.
I have 5 and 1/4" floppies from the early 1980's that still work and read just fine and they've been through 10+ moves and stored in and old basement for years, they are sturdier than many people think.
Hi. As I am 71. Now. It fun to find out old stuff still works.
I was an electrician. But I didn't want to be an old one.
So I became a co computer engineer through a Networking course.
Many moons ago. 😀
Started with Dos 1. And then window for work stuff. XP. Wow. A bit of CC and started on making computers and making networks.
It was fun. And all before the Great Year 2000 tirn over . One more big Wow.
That was fun learning how to check on company networks at Large Companies as well. Not saying any names but Wow again.
But to you Sir. Have a great time looking back. And safeguarding those memories.
I did a similar test a few weeks ago with my 5.25-inch floppy disk collection from 1984 through 1989, and my 3.5-inch collection from 1990 through 1995. Most disks from my collection of approximately 800 were fully readable, but I did encounter several that were either partially dead or completely dead. My entire CD-R and DVD-R collection from 1996 through 2006 are still fully readable (also in the hundreds), and same with my Blu-ray collection from 2007 onward.
Thanks for sharing, this is useful to know. I think optical media for long term storage is the way to go - obviously duplication and distribution is important as well.
I've seen old commodore floppy disc's that still read and work.
I have some 20+ yr CDs still, They ahve been hit or miss
My 8mm VHS tapes however did NOT make it
Our old Video 8 tapes with my childhood videos are still working well, sure some got a bit of mold on the edges, but the data is as good as it can be from all those years.
The camera that reads them tho did feel the years, but I managed to get them digitized at home at surprisingly good quality after much fiddling with the tape mechanism alignment that had fallen out of whack ages ago.
Those are near 30 year old tapes by now, my 2007 HP recovery discs also still work, crappy random brand CDs at that.
Our 8mm analog tapes still play but nearly half of the picture is gone, the digital ones have held up but require that the camera’s heads are squeaky clean to read correctly.
@@Alabaster335 If it's either top or bottom half, or maybe part of both but middle is OK-ish, it might just be misaligned heads, while the data can be fine.
Either get the machine checked, or get another one in good condition/use a transfer service, and you might still be able to recover it in surprisingly good quality.
@@Kalvinjj back then we made a VHS copy which still plays perfectly so I digitized that, the camera itself is fine it's the tapes that haven't aged well, pop used cheap tapes, Emerson branded from memory.
In the 2000s several people posted tests results of longevity with CDR drives, and some brands had read problems after only a few years, so the brand and chemistry mattered
Humidity kills CD-Rs. This is due to no protection on top of the metallic writing layer. The only CD-Rs I had that lasted were the ones that had polymer labels stuck to them. These were NOT COMMON. Paper labels and non-labeled ones crap within a few months to a couple of years. Good riddance to them!!!
My oldest CDr is about 22-24 years old and it still works fine. My oldest DVDr is probably maybe 16-18 years old and it still works as well. I did however have a problem reading one DVDr on a later system. I no longer had the drive that burned it, and neither the DVD drive in my computer, nor an external drive that someone had given me would read one fo the files. It would copy to about 50% and get stuck. I took the disc over a friend's house and his laptop had no trouble at all copying the file.
Well, Fable's original release was in 2004, and I am pretty sure those are DVD's in the original game case I have sitting on a shelf; and last time I tried using it about 3 years ago for a Linux install on Wine, the discs worked just fine. So, you might be somewhat correct about the 15 year remark for dvd.
Meanwhile, we have technologies like M-disc, which could potentially go on for centuries to accurately contain data and be readable still. But, solid state based storage has basically taken over as the 'good enough' solution for most people, and HDD's for the really important stuff that you don't want to risk losing from any reason other than a bad drive malfunction. Reason being that it's still possibly recoverable, unlike with SSD's, which... if they fail, they're basically done. Depends on how they fail, but when they fail, they fail hard. Technically true with HDD's of course as well, but with SSD's... well... the tech required to possibly recover data from them is a lot more specialized as I understand, where as with HDD's, you can literally just replace the platters or other compenents as needed to get it running again long enough to get the data off. Technically possible with SSD's as well, but... not without some extra difficulty, again, as I understand. One reason, is the fact that SSD's aren't completely permanent storage. Sure, they'll hold data for a long time, but depending on the technologies involved, you may want to plug that thing into some power every now and then to make sure each of the nand chips are able to keep their charges that make up that data.
Fun fact for those who don't know: If you keep an SSD unplugged for 1 year, there is a chance you may already be losing data to that problem. Might be fine. Might not be any issues when you plug it in that time. But then the next time, 1 year and ... 1 month later instead, you were too late. HDD's on the other hand can be cold storaged basically indefinitely, since they are literally just reading the data from micro-grooves on the platters. So long as everything else is working fine with that drive, the data should always be there in pristine condition, provided nothing unforeseeable has happened.
I include that part, because I found a while ago, that a lot of people really don't know that, even some who are pretty good with computers and electronics. Kind of curious they wouldn't know... but oh well. Just in case for those who didn't, there you go.
And so for those folk who wonder why HDD's still get used to this day by data centers and such... That's why. The storage capacity is a nice touch, but it's ultimately about the longevity of cold storage. Which is also why tape drives still exist too.
but those were pressed DVDs not DVD-R or CD-Rs. Totally different technology, pressed discs last much more longer than recordable ones.
@@net_news So, this is the first time I have ever come across the term 'pressed'. Can you elaborate? I mean, beyond the longevity aspect you already partially touch on.
@@ManuFortis commercial CDs not burned ones at home
I have pics from my wedding. 1998. The camera is long gone, but the files are just fine.
If you go on Google, type in "free online image upscaler" or "free ai image enhance" you will find a lot of websites that you can run your wedding photos from 1998 through, and you will be surprised how good they look after the process.
Good for if you want any printing off really big at a better resolution. It's also good for old photos that are a bit battered and dog-eared or have marks and tearing in them. It can fix all photos like that, and also, can very convincingly colourize old black and white photos too.
You could run all your wedding photos through this process, then burn the results on to a new CD to last another 25 or so years.
I'd say check the files or the pictures for errors. I have digital pictures, that parts of them got grayed out due to data errors. Ironically to me the best long term format to save anything on is the vinyl record. Unless it gets broken or melted. Hard drives can lock up or rust inside, Cd's are a hit or miss for saving data. Electronic storage is good until something goes haywire with the processor or the memory chips. I don't know of anyone storing data on a vinyl record, but they will play well even if old as long as it is taken care of, and if it is analog sound or voice you don't even need a player if you are in a pinch to play it.
I still have some bootlegs (don't judge me) from over 20 years ago that still play effortlessly, despite heavy scratches from my then 7-year-old self. I also have many original CD-ROMs from as early as 1993 (4 years before I was even born) that still read fine. And the oldest audio CD in my collection that is fully playable is from 1986. A disc nearly 40 years old, yet still sounds as crisp as the day it was recorded. A true testament to the old rule: "take care of it and it *will* last!" That is why I still buy blank physical media to this day. 😊
If you have a CD -R in a standard jewel case i think it helps if you dont have a paper sleeve/Cover.I'm sure it can attract disc rot.Just put a sticky label on the case itself with relevant info.
I remember making digital remixes of dance tracks. Some of them beat me some of them key mixed 🎉getting on 30 years old remember the old gold CDs back in the day they played perfectly. About 95%.
I just pulled out a couple of old discs (one looked like it came from a smoker), both with Win 95 stuff on them = OK.
I did have a disc with video (Colditz) on it, where the backing flaked off, making it unreadable.
Audio CD's were read as constant linear velocity, as they needed a constant data rate stream for audio, probably a lot of computer drives just used the same bits, so no speed up etc.
Ymmv with cd-r, I've had loads from around 2000 become unreadable after two decades. Bd-r are supposed to be more reliable long term storage and that's what i use for my backup of last resort
my oldest, not written by me, is golden looking premium cd-r with enternet 300 windows pppoe software from times when dsl wasn't a thing yet, from year ~2000. i haven't read it since forever? funny how they wrote them manually then. and dslam was just installed at co here. now it's all direct singlemode fibers to houses. it has been awesome 25 years, i'm 40.9yo now
Your lucky, those Gold CD-R were quite good, I had a lot of success with Kodak ones, However I had a lot of lesser brand CD's that have died, some with obviously discolouration on them.
absolutely!! Kodak, Taiyos and Mitsuis last decades... crappy generic CD-Rs do not.
All Taiyo-Yuden manufactured disk should work for a couple of decades still in the future. Of different mfgr makes I'm in doubt, but they are still salvagable with the right software.
Seems to be a 24k Gold CD they're back then 650mb and later 700mb Mitsui, Kodak brands... I have those too mp3 and even analog audio copy of originals ( created for travel walkman ) some even badly scratched ( dropped out at party's similarly I have Gold DVD same brands fully readable on data or Video DVD) and perfectly.... readable to copy or even play.... Writing speed in 1999-2000 was 2-4x.... They came out in ~ 45min pretty hot
I had a bunch from 20 years ago that had turned yellow and had little pin holes in the foil coating.
The acid test is if you can get the music to play. I had some DVD's a TV series, and one gave up the ghost after only 3 replays.
Generally speaking, the greater the information density, the worse the degradation.
I don't trust multi layer discs that much but I yearn to try a 128gb bdxl or even a 100gb bdrexl
The black discs, last forever.
Actually everything I have from the 90's work. Original music cd's. No issues at all.
pressed CDs and CD-R are different technologies. Pressed ones last much longer than recorded ones.
Absolutely none of my RW are readable, about half of my single recordable CD still play. 😔
Well CD-r s are volnerable to two thing . HEAT AND LIGHT , otherwise minus those conditions , you should go until the next century .
I feel like how you stored them could really affect them too. I’ve had some CD-R Advance Albums from record labels that have started to oxidise. I guess those weren’t really supposed to last, especially considering they were mainly created for the press to listen to an album before it came out and then either be returned or disposed of.
I did eztensive testing on CD-R media. The best was Black CD-R from Memorex. I jad some other tbat didnt last a day whem left in a car exposing it to UV sunlight.
So it totally depemds on the manifacturer. Same for DVDs
If you want lo g term archival, use M-Disc. They do not use organoc material and claim to last 1000 years. Maybe toufht to find a CD reader in even 100 years! You need to move your data along or lose it
20y old DVDs, still readable like burned yesterday (mostly Verbatim DVD-R)
i still have my old dvd p*rn i wonder if still works?
All mine work perfectly.
I wonder if higher end stuff like Taiyo-Yuden CDRs will last longer, I bought stacks of Taiyo-Yuden CDRs back in the day
That's all I used towards the end. The straight shiny all around discs :) man those were the days.
@@karlsimons8101 I'm still using them but I spend a lot of time with retro computers and hardware
I wonder if a 27 years old blank CD can still be burned. My oldest blank CD was only 13 years old and it burned perfectly.
most ofmy CDs from 1999-2000 read fine the other day, found one or two that refused to be read.
not counting some that cracked at some point for some reason.
Should pull out some of my old Taiyo Yudens and see if they are still good.
I actually still have VERBATIM CD-R's that look like old LP records that I burn music on, they literally even have the surface texture of an LP on the top side only of course. I prefer my music on disk and this way I know they are music CD's by the look of them.
I've seen them, but never used them.
Omg! It works... what a shocker :D Now, seriously... most of CDs work IF the were burned on a decent quality medium.
A few days ago I found a cd in my attic and it’s been up there for atleast 15 years and it worked fine in my pc
All mine seem to be working from 99 onward
I still stand by my thinking of disc's last longer than drives and I even think they will out last solid state drives..
And its sooo good that we dont need sleeves and washing machines to play it, year after year.
For such old outdated CDs, you may have to alter the variometer in the CD -RW at the laser. LG is better to read old CDs.
i had some from 2000, half of them dont work... i dont know why... no scratches or physical damage...
Try washing the data side in soapy water.
The big problem with these kind of disc based formats for long time storage is that there is no guarantee that you can find something that can read them after decades, disc based formates even bluray are more or less dead these days with streaming and all. I havent used a cd/dvd/bluray in years and i didnt even bother to replace the dvd burner in my desktop computer when it broke years ago and i havent missed it really.
I have a huge stack of DVD drives that I've picked up for next to nothing, even a few blu-ray drives. Hopefully SATA will still be a standard in 20 years time. A few of the drives are IDE, which I've had to get an adapter to use.
I ripped all of my PS2 game discs to my computer recently to use them on my emulator. No problems at all with them. Even my copied games mounted to CD and DVD-Rs ripped fine.
My first was a sound blaster cd-rw drive, expensive from circuit city. Cd-rw are variable on longevity. Latest is a plextor archive drive direct ordered from japan.. have a few other brands in storage. Many drives fail due to poor solder or more commonly plastic cogs losing teath plus rubber drive bands just disintegrating.. so keep a few drives spare esp a USB one. Many old discs still play on my retro 98 and xp boxes. Putting new stuff on dvd m-discs and spare HDDs. SSDs lose charge without power and its faster as density increases. But really my kids are not interested in my old music, films or photos.. somehow they cannot imagine a world without streaming.. and a power cut is board game time for me.. but for them, terror without online phone games.. i will still back up important docs to dvd.. just hope jpeg and pdf exist when people need to read later..
I had an old Plextor quad-speed SCSI reader for a while - no idea what happened to it.
Be warned! Those early expensive gold CD-Rs were said to probably last longer than even commercial pre-recorded regular CDs and so far this appears to be true. But later writeable optical discs, from when they ceased normally being gold, are close to useless and you'd be very lucky if they last just 10 years.
In over 25 years I've yet to find an example of a failed disc.
i have cdrs that i did in the early to mid 2000s still ok, at the mo, but i've had some recently done ones fail after short time, i think the discs were crap quality
Of course it works. What do you think the laser cutting vanished over time.
The laser does not cut anything. The laser discolours a dye layer. It's basically printing the data into a dye that stimulates marks that look like they are real pits as found on a CD-ROM.
The only type of disc that actually does get physically changed when burning is m-disc type DVD-R and BD-R which both use non-dye layers that actually physically change when heated by the laser. BD-R usually uses two metal layers that when heated by the laser permanently fuse into an alloy making a mark.
CD-R and DVD-R that use dyes are able to fade or be corrupted over time by being exposed to UV light or by the dye itself changing as it ages. Stable dyes last longer and modern ones are quite UV resistant. Some dyes are especially UV resistant such as AZO usually found on Verbatim discs.
Saving roms is a good idea
How come you dont have Delphi shortcut on desktop?
You were looking at my server via RDP, which doesn't have Delphi. On my desktop I have a permanent shortcut on the taskbar.
Nice to know people still use Delphi! I've been meaning to look into learning some pascal myself
My old phonographs still play, lacks bass though...😁
Should have played it so we can can hear it.
Do an OS next.
Copyright issues would prevent that... I am sure.
Wow... just wow
I have CDS that are older than that YES THEY WORK.. WHY WOULD IT NOT ???
I vaguely remember being warned that cd-rw data was not safe after 10 years.
If you used quality CD-R and burned it in low speed then it will be fine.
Assuming you dont touch it with your hands on data side and store each CD in its own case.
I have hundreds of CD/DVDs at home and each of them is working.
Earliest CD is from 2005
Now imagine your files on hard drives in 20 years.. no chance. You have to replace them every few years and transfer all those files. Optical media will outlive us
my tekken 5 copy for the ps2 from 2004 still works
To bad optical media is going out of style. Don't expect to archive your home photo's on flash drives and how much does 30 years of cloud storage cost?
I archive everything on BD-R and will do so for many years yet.
Invalid test. I have thousands of CDs which were recorded in the 90s and they remain readable. It should be noted that even some CD readers commonly available in the 90s couldn't read CDs written by various CD writers immediately after being written.
The old Yamaha 4x CD-RW (read/write) could read every CD written by any writer that functioned according to specifications. It could even read CDs with more than 720 MB recorded on a 640 MB disk. If my wife hadn't tossed out the CD caddy, then I'd have kept the Yamaha around indefinitely.
I certainly wouldn't say invalid, but certainly a sample of one is not sufficient.
i hope my bdxl mdisc 100gb at least a 10 year life, im worried a lot when is triple layered
that's called luck.
i had cd's back in the day that stopped working after 2 years, so...
sure, there's a few that still work today but i wouldn't bet my data on one.
I've yet to see a failed optical disc that wasn't physically damaged.
And the last time I found one that was damaged enough to have read issues, I simply resurfaced it.
i think the new chinese dvd are going to create more long turm storage ...
Thank You ! You have helped answer a MAJOR Question that I have had for many .. MANY YEARS. I have Far too numerous to count ... Video's, Pics & General data files etc .. that I want to preserve for-EVER. Most of which are on the same ( CD-R ) disk format. The problem is that to this day nobody has been able to provide me with a definitive answer as to what storage method is the best for preserving data Long-Term ? Though Logically I would think that a medium like a ( CD ) where the information is literally hard-etched on a piece of silicone, Which I am assuming is Very similar to a Vinyl record ?, would be MUCH more reliable than the same info. / file sitting inside of some memory chip comprised of a Gillion binary ( 0 & 1 ) transistors that are completely reliant on Logic Gates staying in their original configuration for the data to Not get corrupted.
Thank you again for your enlightening video. So far it appears that the physical hard-etching of silicone might be the best scenario.
Better get started on RIPPing those things. They won't last forever on that physical medium.
I can definitely tell you that optical media is the best long term storage. NIST and other testing bodies will also agree as unlike every other media except for data tape, optical media has actually been tested for longevity.
Nothing else has.
@@dlarge6502 Yeah ... Im definitely going that route. Though I am curious if there are better types of CD to use for long-term storage ? The CD-R's can be erased & recorded over correct ?
But aren't there CD's that we can burn that are NOT reusable / cannot be re-recorded over ? ie .. permanent etching ?
I think I remember a friend telling me that this would be the Best scenario for Long-Term. ? Which also makes sense since a medium that can be erased or recorded over must contain something that allows for the data to be removed ? -vs- Permanent ? Curious if you know anything in that area ?
Thx
I didnt think it wouldnt read.
I thought it probably would, but was still a bit surprised.
Early CD-Rs (early to mid 90s) were higher quality than late 90s and early 00s ones. That's why a 1994 CD-R is more likely to work than a crappy 2005 CD-R.
I have some cds from the 1990's
I have a CD with a virus... No literally... It looks like a worm ate all the shiny data area in different sections of the disc.
Of the 200 Discs I have, it's the ONLY one that has that issue.
Same thing, for me it was a bootleg album. The rest of the burnt mixtape CDs it was found with had it only mild
I am 27 years old 😂😂😂
I turn 23 soon
#metoo
I am 28
My first CD was vision of love Mariah Carey 1990 sill works no scratches ….
Napster Bad.
Not all CD's are good. Some are pretty bad quality and won't let 5 years. Others will clearly last longer. It depends a lot on the dye quality and how well they were sealed and where they were stored.
I have a lot of old CD-Rs, and they have all been fine.
*disc
Thanks, I've updated the title to say disc rather than disk
@@codegearguru cool, didn't wanna sound annoying btw
Domestic ones were crap and rarely worked properly. Why everyone is rosy eyed about them defeats me. IMHO it was crappest ever and worse: it promised much more and delivered zero. Unsurprised it died
So many jump cuts in this makes it dizzying to watch...
If I knew how many people would watch this video, I probably would have written a script!
Sadly disc media was either the crappest media EVER* or it was the BEST but b@stardised for mass marketing or longevity manipulation.
BBBC Tomorrow's World - online - shows you can over the original with honey and it still plays.
In my experience not ONE of my 20 or 30 players/recorders/computers could read the disks without fault . Even in pack of 20 CDs only one would actually record and even that one would go awry.
*IMHO the crappest. Tape better.
Annoying to listen to......dude make a sentence without pausing between every word.....
Those LG Writers are horrible.
why? i didn't have any problem (ns55).
@@yannisgk I’ve had absolute horrid luck with the entire line.
@@TroisDjinn what can i say...as i've told you, i have this lg writer at least for five years and no problem appeared....of course i use it quite rarely, but it is a first time i keep a "writer" for so long!!!
@@yannisgk I grew up in a time where readers were more common than writers, so I always felt compelled to give them that nickname because it was a big deal at the time. And it stuck with me, your DVD+-RW/DL-BR drive then, or whatever you’d like to call it.
@@yannisgk optical, whatever you want man. I was just giving you my opinion.
First song- Everyone Knows That 😂
I thought he was going to Rick Roll us.