It is a weird headphone and I love it. It really brings out the glory of bass light 80's pop and rock. She isn't the most sophisticated gal in the room but Wow, she has the curves and definitely knows how to have a good time. Zeos you done good.
Burn-in is very real. I got a pair of NightHawks years ago. Me and my brother listened to it out of the box: sounded very muddy and congested. We hated it. Did the 150 hours of burn-in suggested on the box. They are now one of my favorite pair: they sound like a small smoky jazz clubhouse, but inside that place, the treble and mids are silky smooth, musical and fun as hell. So the proof burn-in is real? My brother came back to my place a year or so after, listened to the NightHawk and heard the night and day difference. He couldnt believe how much they werent the same pair of headphones. Anyway great review man! It's spot-on, I got the same feels from the Eris, love'em!
Really loving how much fun you're having with these videos while still being very informative and helpful. As a basshead myself, these might actually be a pair of headphones I'll be getting in the future!
Great review. Eris has all I expected and so much more. Not only for electronic bass heavy music, but also for orchestra with string instruments. The soundstage is so wide and still its like you can feel the instruments warmth. When listening to “Hessel, Raymond K.”, from The Dust Brothers the bass went insane. Vibrating ears like sitting beside a subwoofer and still a clear soundstage. Watching movies alao is just fun with them. So much fun they are replacing my speakers.
Hey man first time see& hearing you ,i love your pressentation / review. That way you discribe everything & the analogy is spot on "to me" straight to point and at same time the "imagine" visualisations are sublime & funny ... Awsome video man ... Keep it up , a little side note i watched all the vidz " the making off/ birth " about the Eris headphones from the Z-revieuws on the Zeos 2channel & i did the do preorder , i found out a little late ( few days ago ) but still hope they make & ship them out .... i cant wait ! Thanks for great review & Take care...
I agree with almost everything you said. Mine creak when putting them on or moving the head around a bit. Great review. They give a nice break from the Tungstens.
That's my thinking too, although my Tungstens are only just being made (according to a not very accurate in his timings Ryan). I have the ZMF Bokeh and hopefully get a pair of DMS Project Omega. With these Z's I can't imagine much more I need............that's "Need" not "want" lol.
I think you're talking about pads squeak and not creaking. Take the pads off and rub the plastic it sits on. Basically there's a coating on there you need to remove. If that doesn't work from just rubbing it violently get some baby powder and apply it to the inside of the pad lip.
@joontech7715 to be forefront, I find the Signature Pulse a little strange, I don't particularly like the system that they use. But to try and answer, Eris is quite a bit more resolving than the Pulse across the board and handles lowend in a way that is more inpactful and powerful than the pulse, while also being more transparent and detailed.
Amazing review! I appreciate the hard work on the editing in this video lol. Just one enquiry, if the Argon is a 10/10 on detail/resolution…..what would the Erie be out of 10?
Been waiting for the right base headphones. I do have three decent ones (he560, DT 770 PRO, x Meze 99 Noir), but they are not hitting that base itch. Think I will bite the bullet on these. Good review.
If you ever manage to get a hold of one I HIGHLY recommend the Emu-Teaks in terms of a bass comparison. To this day I have never experienced bass like those deliever.
I'm about the bass. A headphone with bass "insanity" built in? I need these. What is great about headphones is the ability to change the listening experience on the fly. Myself my baseline go to (was/is) my Sennheiser 600s2 for their ability to make much of the crap (TH-cam, whatever) I listen to sound good. I love my Hifiman planars. Turns out I crank the bass way up on my HE1000se because they can take it while still producing detail. I introduced Sundara closed back into the mix because. . . why not. Seen the price lately? Those things have more slam that the regular Sundara. SO I admit. I'm a bass head. Something designed for bass and can still produce detail in other areas sounds a bit like what you get if planars and dynamic drivers from a 600 series popped out a baby. I NEED THESE. Let's chill with the bear.
If "fun" to you is thunderous bass, then Eris would be the winner here. X2HR is a lot more natural sounding in comparison. X2HR is like watching a movie in your home theater that you probably spent a good bit of time optimizing, while Eris is like going to iMax and those woofers are cranked UP.
Non Bassheads think that the Sony Z7M2 is bass heavy ? Uh nope but Sony did make the Sony MDR-XB1000 which absolutely was and the JVC HA-MR77X Definitely are then add to that the Black Death Headphones and you get the big three
You described burn in well, it does happen, it’s usually not measurable, but the reason it happens is like pistons firing in a car engine. You know they say the first 10K miles is ‘running in’ the engine? Well drivers are moving pistons, and the material bonding around the edges of the drive unit loosens off with movement and use, and as a result the amplifier is able to move it with less friction and therefore performs more optimally. Just like wearing in a pair of shoes, or even something like stretching your body. People deny it happens, even with all these other scientific examples from other areas of life, explaining constant movement helps loosen things off. I have personally experienced burn in on many products over the years - and it doesn’t happen on everything - but when it does, it’s strikingly noticeable. So in short, I was glad to see you have the same experience when burning in some pairs of headphones, and the conversation around this needs to be normalised more, because the cat is out of the bag now on the argument about whether or not it makes a difference. Highly enjoyable review.
@@balllovewow Eris has more bass extension than R9, and higher quality low and mid bass than the R9. Sony's and Beyers have more extension and higher quality sub-bass than the Eris, but the Eris still has commendable sub-bass. I know you're in search of a real bass cannon. I think you will be very happy with the Eris.
@@MasterMarslander oh hi yes ive conversed with you about soundstage before!... as we have seen , the Fiio have solved a lot for people like me (who dont buy,test,return, + no local audio shops).. Dan Clark will have to wait a few more years before i order the E3s!
@@MasterMarslander oh boyohboy how much fun for you....FT1vsE3?? sounds a bit mad consideringthe prices but somewhere I did actaully see E3 mentioned in an FT1 review somewhere. Maybe Fiio cut open a few E3,, 3dmapped and printed out the widget,, no no. Look forward to E3 review.
Out of the box and after burn in are very different. Yet another reason I dont care for charts and grafs. Tell me, how it sounds, not what it looks like it should sound. Ha!
@@TheVeganVicar GM 🤣 I was commenting on another video ..when this started playing … It could almost apply to this . DAKA ..in the 40k Universe the Ork Faction refers to ammunition as DAKA ..as in LOTS OF DAKA !…..could make the point about the bass😉
They may be awesome, may not be, but Zeos should have thought about hiring a professional logo designer. That cheesy logo that looks like he put it together in about 5 minutes makes these headphones look like something for kiddies.
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What you're describing re: burn in sounds like it may be "brain burn in" or acclimatization especially given it was happening over a short period of time while you were actively listening to the headphones. Maybe the bass is so strong that when you first put them on it's all you hear until you get used to it, then you start hearing more of the frequency response.
While I do agree the Brain Burn-in is happening with these. There is mechanical change in both the pads and driver from new. A few folks that had more then one even did A-B testing with Virgin and Used sets to confirm. Although Measuring doesn't show a large enough change to note.
it gets there. Takes time for the driver and also some brain tweak. That is one of the universal sentiments is that it isn't "sloppy" bass. What is your source chain?
@@MasterMarslander - After going through it for about a month, I don't think I like it. I value the mids and vocals above all else and after listening to the Eris, while I like bass, I realized I'm not a bass head. Bass is important to me, but to roundout the sound, not dominate it.
@@MasterMarslander - Trying the DCA Stealth. Still like the Sendy Peacocks and HD600 for my lower end headphones. I enjoy Sus, ZMF VC and Tungsten. Trying Stealth as it is a lighter closed back vs the VC. I was hoping I could replace the VC, but VC sounds good on everything, Stealth only on a couple of things.
Looks cool, I should get one!
I agree other Barry. You totally should.
My pad lore is catching on…
Naaahhh, you wouldn't like it - I don't think it would suit you IEM guys!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
perhaps look into Rinkos or the Jojos in stead???
@@ZReviews, or even a few, Steven. 😸
@@in-earfetish just for information, they have been on Amazon U.K. but now appear to be sold out again.
I like that the story in the cabin went on to even describe details like the colour of the ceramic cup. That was a nice tangent.
@RocketLauncherwithInfiniteAmmo haha, thank you. I let myself ramble sometimes.
It is a weird headphone and I love it. It really brings out the glory of bass light 80's pop and rock. She isn't the most sophisticated gal in the room but Wow, she has the curves and definitely knows how to have a good time. Zeos you done good.
@@matthewhilty4209 Eris - the Jessica Rabbit of headphones.
Gratzie
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Thank you! Slow steady growth.
This channel is going to rise quickly, the cream always rises
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Burn-in is very real. I got a pair of NightHawks years ago. Me and my brother listened to it out of the box: sounded very muddy and congested. We hated it. Did the 150 hours of burn-in suggested on the box. They are now one of my favorite pair: they sound like a small smoky jazz clubhouse, but inside that place, the treble and mids are silky smooth, musical and fun as hell. So the proof burn-in is real? My brother came back to my place a year or so after, listened to the NightHawk and heard the night and day difference. He couldnt believe how much they werent the same pair of headphones. Anyway great review man! It's spot-on, I got the same feels from the Eris, love'em!
Really loving how much fun you're having with these videos while still being very informative and helpful. As a basshead myself, these might actually be a pair of headphones I'll be getting in the future!
Great review. Eris has all I expected and so much more. Not only for electronic bass heavy music, but also for orchestra with string instruments. The soundstage is so wide and still its like you can feel the instruments warmth. When listening to “Hessel, Raymond K.”, from The Dust Brothers the bass went insane. Vibrating ears like sitting beside a subwoofer and still a clear soundstage. Watching movies alao is just fun with them. So much fun they are replacing my speakers.
I also found classical and orchestral to be surprisingly competent with the Eris.
Me too! I was also surprised by the dynamics for jazz and heard bass notes I never knew existed on some Dave Weckl songs. Very pleased with the Eris
Hey man first time see& hearing you ,i love your pressentation / review. That way you discribe everything & the analogy is spot on "to me" straight to point and at same time the "imagine" visualisations are sublime & funny ... Awsome video man ... Keep it up , a little side note i watched all the vidz " the making off/ birth " about the Eris headphones from the Z-revieuws on the Zeos 2channel & i did the do preorder , i found out a little late ( few days ago ) but still hope they make & ship them out .... i cant wait ! Thanks for great review & Take care...
Thank you for your kind words! I'm happy you enjoyed the video. Hope you get your Eris soon and start listening!
This headphone is making my $1000 ish cans collect dust. Finally something made for me.
heck yeah. i dont know if im gonna get one, but im just excited to hear someone talking about it
I feel that!
Just a reminder to change "violance" to violence
For crying out loud... thank you. 🙏
Played hell blade 2 with these .. they game super well... These headphones replace so many other sets
Excellent video as always
I agree with almost everything you said. Mine creak when putting them on or moving the head around a bit.
Great review. They give a nice break from the Tungstens.
I've heard that before, the creaking, but my set don't seem to have that problem - probably just some QA variation.
That's my thinking too, although my Tungstens are only just being made (according to a not very accurate in his timings Ryan).
I have the ZMF Bokeh and hopefully get a pair of DMS Project Omega. With these Z's I can't imagine much more I need............that's "Need" not "want" lol.
Zeos even says in one of his videos about the Eris how to get that creaking noise to go away…
@@False_Star Share it here so folks can get to fixing.
I think you're talking about pads squeak and not creaking. Take the pads off and rub the plastic it sits on. Basically there's a coating on there you need to remove. If that doesn't work from just rubbing it violently get some baby powder and apply it to the inside of the pad lip.
The longer I use them, the more I love them. Been really enjoying gaming with them too.
SO fun for gaming.
Listening to this review on my Eris. All hail Eris.
Thank you for the review! I really want to get one after watching your review. Just one question. How does these compare to Ultrasone signiture pulse?
@joontech7715 to be forefront, I find the Signature Pulse a little strange, I don't particularly like the system that they use. But to try and answer, Eris is quite a bit more resolving than the Pulse across the board and handles lowend in a way that is more inpactful and powerful than the pulse, while also being more transparent and detailed.
Amazing review! I appreciate the hard work on the editing in this video lol.
Just one enquiry, if the Argon is a 10/10 on detail/resolution…..what would the Erie be out of 10?
I'd give Eris like a 7 in that scenario, against the Argon MK3.
Been waiting for the right base headphones. I do have three decent ones (he560, DT 770 PRO, x Meze 99 Noir), but they are not hitting that base itch. Think I will bite the bullet on these. Good review.
These headphones NEED burn in more than any headphones I've ever tried. At least 50 hours for me.
Master, thank you for another wonderful headphone review! 👌
Reverend Dr. Thomas,
✝️ The Vegan Vicar 🌱
If you ever manage to get a hold of one I HIGHLY recommend the Emu-Teaks in terms of a bass comparison. To this day I have never experienced bass like those deliever.
@matthewwesley4320 oh man, I'd love to get my hands on the Teaks.
15:06 The classic Eris bear strikes again
@E_o_D give him a snickers and he turns out to be a pretty chill dude to hang out with.
Strickes? You mean a bunch of short ROPES? 🤔
@@TheVeganVicar Haha, Snickers, as in the candy bar. Word is they conquer angry hunger.
@@MasterMarslander, I was referring to the OP. ☝️☝️
I like my neutral stuff for the average stuff. But man are these fun for the right stuff
How the quality of the headband?
I had a drp+ultrasone signature X and it's terrible headband broke so quick.
This one's headband looks similar.
Headband is super comfortable. Adjustments for the headband are solid and well machined. Everything feels robust.
I'm about the bass. A headphone with bass "insanity" built in? I need these. What is great about headphones is the ability to change the listening experience on the fly. Myself my baseline go to (was/is) my Sennheiser 600s2 for their ability to make much of the crap (TH-cam, whatever) I listen to sound good. I love my Hifiman planars. Turns out I crank the bass way up on my HE1000se because they can take it while still producing detail. I introduced Sundara closed back into the mix because. . . why not. Seen the price lately? Those things have more slam that the regular Sundara. SO I admit. I'm a bass head. Something designed for bass and can still produce detail in other areas sounds a bit like what you get if planars and dynamic drivers from a 600 series popped out a baby. I NEED THESE. Let's chill with the bear.
Amen.
How does these compare to X2HR? Which is best and more fun for electronic music, movies and gaming?
If "fun" to you is thunderous bass, then Eris would be the winner here. X2HR is a lot more natural sounding in comparison. X2HR is like watching a movie in your home theater that you probably spent a good bit of time optimizing, while Eris is like going to iMax and those woofers are cranked UP.
@@MasterMarslander Thanks for the reply. What about fiio ft5, would they be better in this case scenario? Ive seen your review and some others.
@rickardronnqvist6176 I find the Eris to be a much more fun headphone to the FT5. I never felt very engaged with the FT5.
@@MasterMarslander Thanks man, probobly gonna buy and try the Eris in the near future. Think they gonna complement nicely with my Aune he5000 .
@rickardronnqvist6176 sweet. Hope you enjoy them!
listening to this video on the eris, my grizzly greets your grizzly
@@defu8592 a roar to you bear, and a clank to your latte.
Are you saying we get a Free Fireplace and Grizzly Bear with each Headphone? 🐻 Nice Production!
@@JTB-- I am proud to offer free analogies to everyone.
What’s the music you’re playing here? Very good.
At what point of the video?
🔥 god job Z Z
Ya probaste los Rinko?
@@Alcuauhpilli Yep, I've had a set of Rinkos for a little while now.
Non Bassheads think that the Sony Z7M2 is bass heavy ? Uh nope but Sony did make the Sony MDR-XB1000 which absolutely was and the JVC HA-MR77X
Definitely are then add to that the Black Death Headphones and you get the big three
I think you've mentioned this bass trifecta once before. Are any of them easy to get today?
Can you compare with the Fiio ft1?
Haven't heard the FT1 just yet, but its only my list.
You described burn in well, it does happen, it’s usually not measurable, but the reason it happens is like pistons firing in a car engine. You know they say the first 10K miles is ‘running in’ the engine? Well drivers are moving pistons, and the material bonding around the edges of the drive unit loosens off with movement and use, and as a result the amplifier is able to move it with less friction and therefore performs more optimally. Just like wearing in a pair of shoes, or even something like stretching your body. People deny it happens, even with all these other scientific examples from other areas of life, explaining constant movement helps loosen things off. I have personally experienced burn in on many products over the years - and it doesn’t happen on everything - but when it does, it’s strikingly noticeable. So in short, I was glad to see you have the same experience when burning in some pairs of headphones, and the conversation around this needs to be normalised more, because the cat is out of the bag now on the argument about whether or not it makes a difference. Highly enjoyable review.
@@RocketLauncherwithInfiniteAmmo engine pistons is a fantastic allegory for it!
Sony and Beyer more extended in subbass than these one.. Does it mean in term of quantity of subbass or how low they can reach ?
and how much different ? cuz I care so much about subbass, even HE-R9 cant satisfied me interm of subbass quantity.
but actually, base form HE-R9 graph they dont extended below 40hz so.. that's why
@@balllovewow Eris has more bass extension than R9, and higher quality low and mid bass than the R9. Sony's and Beyers have more extension and higher quality sub-bass than the Eris, but the Eris still has commendable sub-bass. I know you're in search of a real bass cannon. I think you will be very happy with the Eris.
alright whelp you got me
7:16 The only time holding something droopy is a good thing ;)
😎
#ErisGang
Purple Penguin approved. 😊
How do they get soundstage?.
It's semi open
?????????........
@Bootrosgali even full closed can have soundstage. Just harder to achieve than open back.
@@MasterMarslander oh hi yes ive conversed with you about soundstage before!... as we have seen , the Fiio have solved a lot for people like me (who dont buy,test,return, + no local audio shops).. Dan Clark will have to wait a few more years before i order the E3s!
@Bootrosgali just got in an E3, actually. Need to find time to get playing with it.
@@MasterMarslander oh boyohboy how much fun for you....FT1vsE3?? sounds a bit mad consideringthe prices but somewhere I did actaully see E3 mentioned in an FT1 review somewhere. Maybe Fiio cut open a few E3,, 3dmapped and printed out the widget,, no no. Look forward to E3 review.
Out of the box and after burn in are very different. Yet another reason I dont care for charts and grafs.
Tell me, how it sounds, not what it looks like it should sound. Ha!
Master Blaster!
(Yup, I sure did, mofo 😂)
You gotdang genius.
Nothing beats unlimited DAKA at point blank range 🤣
DAKA?
@@TheVeganVicar GM 🤣 I was commenting on another video ..when this started playing …
It could almost apply to this .
DAKA ..in the 40k Universe the Ork Faction refers to ammunition as DAKA ..as in LOTS OF DAKA !…..could make the point about the bass😉
@@carminedesanto6746 I see. 🤔
Good lord, thank you for explaining this! I have been trying to decipher your comment for weeks!
It's all about Meghan Trainor.
They may be awesome, may not be, but Zeos should have thought about hiring a professional logo designer. That cheesy logo that looks like he put it together in about 5 minutes makes these headphones look like something for kiddies.
@@larsman9169 I suppose you could always slap a sticker over it.
sound signature is for "kiddies"
How does kpop sound ? Female vocals?
Give me a band to look up and try and I'll let you know how I feel about it.
@@MasterMarslander These are just a few songs i listen too. My biggest concern is the bass veil the mids and vocals.
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They sound like boys 😂
What you're describing re: burn in sounds like it may be "brain burn in" or acclimatization especially given it was happening over a short period of time while you were actively listening to the headphones. Maybe the bass is so strong that when you first put them on it's all you hear until you get used to it, then you start hearing more of the frequency response.
While I do agree the Brain Burn-in is happening with these. There is mechanical change in both the pads and driver from new. A few folks that had more then one even did A-B testing with Virgin and Used sets to confirm. Although Measuring doesn't show a large enough change to note.
The bass is annoying and I like bass. Articulate bass.
it gets there. Takes time for the driver and also some brain tweak. That is one of the universal sentiments is that it isn't "sloppy" bass. What is your source chain?
Still can't say I like it. Your brain also needs to adjust as well.
It's certainly an acquired taste.
@@MasterMarslander - After going through it for about a month, I don't think I like it. I value the mids and vocals above all else and after listening to the Eris, while I like bass, I realized I'm not a bass head. Bass is important to me, but to roundout the sound, not dominate it.
@rogerhuston8287 that's the journey. What do you think you'll go back to?
@@MasterMarslander - Trying the DCA Stealth. Still like the Sendy Peacocks and HD600 for my lower end headphones. I enjoy Sus, ZMF VC and Tungsten. Trying Stealth as it is a lighter closed back vs the VC. I was hoping I could replace the VC, but VC sounds good on everything, Stealth only on a couple of things.
@@rogerhuston8287 VC is going to be tough to beat. So musical.
"Zeos" is cringe AF
So don’t buy em, highly doubt he cares what YOU think haha
@@False_StarI'm over here weeping.
Well we all know that 😅
Why is Mr. Pantera cringe-worthy?
No RGB. No interested.
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