One thing that bothers me is that all these people were drinking and driving and ALLOWING and KNOWING everyone was drinking and driving-there is something inherently wrong about that…..
You know what’s sad about this case? If you say “the John O’Keefe” case so many people will have no idea what you are talking about, but if you say “the Karen Read” case, almost everyone knows the case (at least in the TC world). I thought of that when Coff said “the John O’Keefe” case in the beginning of the video. Good on you Coff for always remembering and fighting for the victims 🤍🙌🏽 So many people, especially TH-camrs focus on the suspects, so it’s refreshing to hear the opposite here ♥️
Karen Read has been idolized by some people. Exactly what happened to Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman in 1996. The free oj movement back in 1996. Now, it is 'free Karen Read'.
My son was attacked by a dog when he was 4 yr old. And sadly, the bites looked exactly like Officer O’Keefe’s arm. Not to mention, your opinion is based primarily on statements by witnesses. If the pictures alone do not dispute a hit and run, explain why the homeowners never came out of their house when EMS/LE were responding to finding Officer O’keefe on their lawn? Why didn’t they investigate the home? How is there a hair on the bumper but no blood? How did no one who left that night see him in the snow?
And the clothing was riding around in the back of someone’s car for 3 weeks before it was tested, so it’s useless as evidence. That’s my problem with this case…all the evidence has been mishandled from the start. It’s now a case of he said she said and the victim and victims family will never receive justice or even know for sure what happened. No one can be convicted from this unravelled ball of yarn
Brian Albert retired shortly after the murder. Higgins is now unemployed and looking for work. His Federal Grand Jury testimony has quoted him talking about his federal proffer, and getting the OK from Morrissey to destroy his phone despite a preservation order.
@@Leela879Albert wasn't on duty. Albert, like everyone else knows you can't enter a crime scene, but they were probably SLEEPING until 3 police officers entered the home,; Lank, Goode, and Gallagher I think are their names. They entered the Albert home while O'Keefe was being transported to the hospital.
Hmm, it seems Jen ran in screaming and woke them up. If cops went in that house, but never thought to question, search, interview the people inside?? Never even crossed their mind to look for his other shoe, shirt and hat inaide the reaidence of the scene. guess the Alberts slept through all of that
Yes, seems Jennifer Coffindaffer has a dog in this fight!?? I wonder, did SHE adopt the Alberts dog who attacked John O'Keefe? 👀 She is spreading misinformation, and she knows it too!
@@CountessKitten I don' know if she got the dog, but it sure seems evident that she got *something* from the Alberts - would explain her blind allegiance to them, for sure.
The examiner stated the cause of death was undete. Conversely, the FBI investigation stated it wasn't a car hit ; thus, there are conflicting opinions. Next week begin all evidence.
Scratches on his right arm could have been human fingernails, probably not very long or the scratches would’ve been deeper. I don’t know. Did anyone check her fingernails that day or around that time? The were in the car for several minutes, apparently they were in an argument, KR was very angry. His injuries were mainly on his face and head region. Weren’t severe enough as if he was punched in the face in a fight with a strong man. There were no major bruises on his body, the kind he would’ve gotten in a brawl with an equally strong man like officer Albert. Blunt force bruises on head and face could have been Karen Read hitting him, punching him a car closed space. No one would hear their loud voices in the car rom outside or inside the house. He got out of car to walk to the house, she also got out, picked up blunt object from car, walked behind struck him on back of his head in an uncontrollable rage in her drunkenness- not with intent to kill him, not realizing how hard she hit him. Caused a concussion and bleeding in his brain knocked him out completely never woke up died in the cold from hypothermia. She drove off in car, leaving angry voicemails or texts - can’t remember- she was angry all the to her home. Sound recorded in the home she went right to bed. Woke up next morning frantic remembered what happened, drove to the house found his body on the front yard where she left him, thought he was dead, panicked, came up with she accidentally backed into him with her car, didn’t remember what happened. Took out an object, smashed her taillights, picked up the pieces planted them on his body before she left the scene. Called her friends, asked her taillights were broken, then did she hit him? She started the narrative. She knew where his body was in the snow her friends couldn’t see. Continue to seed narrative she backed into him. She was ready to be charged misdemeanor until defense came up with conspiracy theory cop in house did it, she pleads not guilty. Better story she went with, pretty evil. She had motive and opportunity. Problem is she got rid of hthe blunt object she hit him with -crucial evidence tied her to the crime harder prove the case. Bruises focused on the head could prove caused in the car with weaker female,she scratched on his right arm - he was the drive or got in front seat some point, she went around to his side scratched his arm trying to pull him out. Something like that. She had more to hurt him. No one in the house did, drag his body to front yard frame KR, hoping she was too drunk to remember, hoped she may have hit him. Too risky. Why leave body on front yard. Cover a crime, move body far away as possible can’t link to the body and crime. Obviously. If she did this - she is 100% guilty. Hard to prove w/o weapon. She will never confess. So sad for JO family. Looks worn get justice for JO in human court of law. Maybe some other way divine arrangement. Have to wait and see, and pray for his family.
Where did the ME say they’re not dog bites? She said not a fight She should have mentioned no dog bite No train wreck Didn’t jump from a bridge Didn’t what ever else Its very peculiar especially as proctor was standing over her
I saw the photo during the trial on Friday. My capture is much brighter and clearer than yours. The scratches are totally puncture type wounds as if from claws. The EMT even called them furrows and demonstrated with a claw-like scratch gesture. Also I saw the vehicle and all smooth rounded surface. No sharp jagged metal edges. We already know how the tail light was damaged. Not buying what you’re selling.
This is either a cover up or gross negligence on part of the investigation. Terrible job gathering evidence. Where's the officers belt and shoes. You have to go in the house and investigate before the dog gets lost and they change all the bloody floors
Actually you’re wrong!!! She left a VM saying that. Couples argue and say nasty things, that’s not motive for murder. Since it seems you’re trying to say that Karen wanted to be with Higgins and John and Karen were about to break up - why would she kill him??? He gave her an out, if she wanted to see someone else, she could have just agreed and broke up with him. The way you exaggerate the facts is just unbelievable. Why didn’t Brian Albert come outside? Why did Higgins destroy his SIM card and phone, change his number and phone provider???? What the hell did John hit his head on to cause the laceration?? How the hell is it possible for a man who’s 6’2” not have once bruise anywhere below his neck??? Not have any internal injuries?? What about the fact that the specialist the FBI hired made it clear in his report and sworn affidavit that it is not possible that John was hit by Karen’s vehicle - are you just going to ignore all of that???
Sorry, disagreeing with you on this case. The video of her backing up and hitting John's car clearly shows an INTACT passenger side taillight. Siding with the "conspirators" on this one!
I thought this initially too, but when I watched it on Court TV, I put it on slow mode and took screenshots so I could zoom in, there def looks to be pieces already missing. I currently am undecided on this case and am waiting to see all the evidence., but I encourage you to take another look at thar video. What is clear so far is that the investigators have done a substandard job with so many conflicts of interest leaving so much room for criticism.
I am curious if anyone knows. Was Chloe, the dog, a K-9 officer or a pet? Either way, I don't believe those are bite marks. I am just assuming K-9 officer would be trained to latch on & subdue until called off. A pet protecting, I think, would bite once & retreat unless the threat continued. Either way, it would be punctures, not scratches, because that is what causes animal bites to be so dangerous; the breaking of the skin & allowing saliva to enter causing infection.
#Paula-FunnyFarm I have seen dog bites that actually look similar to John's marks. When trying to pull the dog off the arm, it causes deep rows of lacerations as the teeth are being dragged down from the arm.
I mean no disrespect but please address the larger questions. I look forward to your next video with the hopes that you do. What about the google search on jennifers phone "how long to die in the cold"? The missing footage from a building that would show the state of the taillight? Doesnt it look guilty to liquidate your assets and move that quickly? Ill be the first ti admit that all i know are what these videos and articles keep saying. What about the lead investigator being close friends of the owner of that house and possible suspect? (I forget his name) I feel bad for the dog. Im a animal lover and id fight tooth and nail to keep them even if they had an issue with another dog. Poor thing
She can't explain it. Once the 2 netural highly qualified guys testify it's over, it's over anyway but you're right soooo much suspicious behaviour and she can't explain it. Deleted calls, throwing phones, sallport and library footage missing, search, tailight, no injuries from waist down, laughable testimony from trooper paul about flying 30 foot holding glass and scratches from smooth tailight, missing ring footag after being in trooper Proctors hands, missing dog, selling house, snow plough driver not seeing a body and ford edge blocking path, collusion with each other, Proctor himself from beginning having it in for Karen, no one comimg in or out of house, so much more, anyway all that aside and so much more once those guys testify it's over ❤
@@BreakTheCase He was 6'2 and he only got hit on his head by her tail light ? Not his legs or torso? Come on, you're an fbi agent? Use your common sense! How fast was she going in reverse 100 miles and hour? On a drive way? Tail lights don't break into thousand pieces by just hitting a human head. If it's a metal piece, then it might. Dogs do scratch when you're holding them back from biting someone and their paws reach out the other person. That's what it looks like on that arm picture.
@@LimeInTheCoconuts common sense??😄 If you're behind an suv and they reverse at 1 mile per hour, are your legs 0r torso getting hit first 0r your head, if you're 6'2 ?
With all due respect, how the glass could cause the damage on the arm without damaging the shirt? Where did the jacket come from that paramedics testified about? The scenario with car would be the most rational one if the traumatic injury were adequate. Where is the point of contact with the car? Accident could have happened in the house. Fell on the basement stairs, hit the head on the exercise equipment. The scratches could be from the dog. No one talks about when that dog disappeared. No German shepherd would sleep through yelling and 4 cars with flashing lights accumulation in-front of the master’s house. Maybe prosecutors will show the evidence later, I hope. For society is better to have one drunk driver than a corrupt police department and a family of psychopaths.
I disagree! Although you have many insightful thoughts, I believe the evidence proves otherwise. I love the critical thinking! Thank you for taking the time to comment and show your support here at Break The Case! Keep watching! ⚖️🔍
She can't debunk anything. No evidence, wait for 2 guys that were hired by fbi previously who are netural who are going to say not consistent with car crash.
Then why was officer O'Keefe not treated with the same level of respect? Regardless of inoocent or guilt... why so many lies? Too many family connections. Look at Auntie Bev saving Higgens from a federal crime yesterday!
I have been a nurse practitioner for over 20 years and an ER/trauma RN before that. You can not conclude that those "lacerations" are not dog bites, Jennifer, and you know that. I also heard you say that you are not a dog bite expert, so, making this statement seem even more absurd. I am really trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here but I'm struggling.
@@BreakTheCaseIt's not actually full stop. Lack of evidence is not evidence. Afaik they sent a couple of swabs from OJO's shirt to be analyzed. They didn't preserve the clothes themselves. They didn't take swabs from his wounds. An actual objective person would consider the DNA test (and what it shows ) and the experience of professionals who have dealt with dog bites.
I’m sure all the evidence will come out and the jury will decide Read’s fate from an unbiased perspective. And I am sure a dog expert will testify to the claim he was bitten by the dog and can finally put this to rest instead of amateur internet sleuths making uninformed guesses.
Evidence on that one is now in and she was hammered. Doesn’t make her guilty of murder though. Could have been guilty of manslaughter but they over charged her and screwed up the chain of evidence and investigation, plus there is something really fishy about all the butt dials, google search, and so many conflicts of interest. This case is scrambled egg all over everyone’s faces. It’s done, and we’re just watching them go through the motions now.
2 highly qualified NETURAL guys who arent on defence side or prosecution side that were hired by the FBI in the other case and took more than a math class like trooper Paul, they are going to say injuries were not consistent with a car crash and the evidence on car also not consistent. The way trooper paul TRIED to describe what happened how the smooth tailight broke on Johns arm was ridiculous and outrageous and disrespectful to John. Flying 30 feet, or 'projected' in his words, absolutely AWFUL testimony, scripted, unbelievable and not credible. NO way with overwhelming evidence of a cover up and when its all tied up in a bow NOT GUILTY. Loads of misinformation being spread around
Where's the dog now, why would they rehoused the dog because it got the taste of blood, why did the Albert stay in the house if they were friends and there's dead guy on there lawn wow sounds like guilty to me nice so called friend ah ya you all guilty that's right well being left out in the snow could help get rid DNA besides why did they not check the Albert house it was a crime scene but we all know why it wasn't
If one wants to get the publics vote, blame law enforcement. I would believe that Johns niece and nephew would be able to tell everyone exactly what Karen and Johns relationship was like when they lived together. Justice for John O'Keefe ❤💔❤
Look lady I’m not saying Karen is innocent or guilty till all the evidence is out at jury. You say on court tv that all the Karen supports are wrong because the evidence isn’t all in but yet you turn around and try to debunk what little the defense has stated saying it’s wrong. You’re going below the belt as you say the supporters are so why not take the high road and leave it alone instead of trying to seek attention. As FBI agent former or not you’re fighting fire with fire which isn’t a good look. If she gets convicted(she is innocent right now by law) then you can have the last laugh.
I appreciate her videos because social media has been dominated by Turtle Boy's narrative, which is confusing and doesn't make any sense. So it is helpful to hear some of the issues from the Prosecution side, or, other people who believe she is guilty. I definitely believe she is guilty.
Not many views, not many likes, and comments not so adoring of you, Jen. When this is all over, the next big case I vow to follow will be the defamation case of Read vs. Coffindaffer. I think you'll hear the term 'with malice' somewhere in the suit.
@@BreakTheCase There wasn’t an investigation. The home of lawn in which he was found was never searched. The deleted videos of the sally port and library. JO’s clothing not turned in to evidence for weeks. The phony time on vehicle search warrant. The actual text message ‘he’s a Boston Cop too.’ It’s pathetic and embarrassing that an “FBI” agent thinks this was an investigation.
I find it interesting that federal investigators found the need to investigate this investigation and the investigators, and all the conflicts surrounding the investigation. You are ex-FBI, and yet you are ignoring the very results of your fellow colleagues’ investigation, including cell phone records, specialist accident reconstruction undertaken by the FBI (three PHDs) and other facts that only became known as a result of the federal investigation, not because of the county investigation. You also don’t know all the facts in evidence, the only parties who know that are the prosecution and defense; so with respect, how are you not speculating? You are merely quoting pre-trial motions, which are only a fraction of the case. My question to you is, if someone is found dead on the lawn outside a house, regardless of what is assumed to be the cause, would you not still obtain a warrant to search the inside of the property/house to rule out any possibility of foul play? That’s common sense. I’m afraid you’ve debunked nothing; the only thing that will debunk any allegations from either side is a trial, not your opinions, nor anyone else’s. And because you are also merely speculating and relying on your own opinions, and presenting them as facts, you have lost credibility with me. You can stick to the facts and still inform, and it’s for this reason I have unsubscribed, as conjecture and insulting other people’s opinions is not what this case needs more of, sadly you are placing yourself in the same cesspool, whether you like it or not.
The problem stemmed from those involved being wasted! If these people were not partying like irresponsible teens, this wouldn't have happened in the first place!
Appreciate Your Educated and Experience and sharing with us ...Thanks Jen.. We will see in trial the ME autopsy reports by a educated expert.... And all evidence ‼️ Just for John O'Keefe 🇺🇸
Thanks Jen .. Justice For John O'Keefe 🇺🇸 I believe in facts, and digital evidence will reveal something hopefully to get justice for this Law Enforcement Officer. I don't understand all the circus & attention on the defendant❓ It's really strange to me... Justice will come🙏
I am late into this video but I hope you see my question. If it was for example glass or metal that scratched Johns arm is that something they saw on his shirt? Wouldn't it penetrate the fabric? I am looking forward to seeing his shirt. Thank you for covering the case. 🙂
Before they were tested the clothes rode around in back of someone’s car- who apparently forgot they were there - for three weeks. Another piece of evidence mishandled carelessly…or purposefully. We’ll never know. All we know is that the investigation is severely botched and the truth (whatever that is) will probably never be known
I believe John's injuries were from a pallet that was lying in front of the flagpole in the yard. Google maps, street view, April 2022 it was laying down in front of the flagpole. I believe this was a missed piece of evidence in this case. When viewing the pallet when zooming in, shows jagged edges and two near broken boards by the flag pole. My belief is he was hit at an angle he was thrown hit the pallet and hit the back of his head on the base of the flagpole. Love your channel .
@@mdub6779 Yes he did. A very sad day. The pallet was there April 2022 which was 3 months after the incident. It was under the snow. Pig DNA, no dog DNA, could it be from a pallet? Maybe I am way off, Google maps show the pallet under the flagpole. Something caused Pig DNA. Pallets come from farms. People make things out of them. I do. Scratches with no canine DNA, but pig DNA. You tell me? Be nice about it
I think I know who you are talking about, and she won't hear a single point that goes against her premature conclusion. I tried and she fought me hard.
Thank you so much for your commentary, I regretfully admit that I was totally on the Karen side. Shame on me for not being more diligent open-minded and look at the whole case.
The harassment and intimidation of the witnesses are absolutely disgusting. I have even shed tears for the level of abuse that they have endured, that has been orchestrated by the defense. Jen, thanks for such a logical take on the case.
How was she an FBI gun instructor and make a channel to LIE.. read the documents people and you will see the truth. Karen Read is innocent. Look at the evidence and the corruption from the DA. Higgens has a PROFFER
15:00 😂 I’m giggling because you are pretending to disclose the dogs attack history when you are hiding another attack and minimizing the fact that she attacked the human in the incident you disclosed. Why is it hard to believe the dog wouldn’t attack someone fighting with its owner? 😅 Why is it so hard to understand that there was a shirt between the skin and the dog’s teeth/claws, changing the depth of penetration and the pattern of which specific tooth’s would make contact/marks on skin
The person got bit trying to break up a fight between two dogs. Of course the person got bit. There is no way the wounds on his arm are from a dog. There different lengths apart. A dogs teeth would make the same length marks on every bite and there would be puncture wounds. There would also be wounds on the other side of the arm from the bottom teeth.
@@alanhinkel420 the problem with this statement Alan is that you are assuming every single dog latch is firmly attached on both sides.. which is not true. So your assumptions just fall apart in a second of actual analysis. 🧐
@@alanhinkel420 go search any photo of a German Shepard grabbing an arm with clothing. The top two teeth are longer and therefore have a much greater chance of reaching skin than the much shorter bottom teeth. But hey, you have your opinion even if it requires absolute ignorance to hold it. It is yours to have 🙏🏽
Love your takes on this Coff. You are SO spot on…. Why would so many risk their lively hood to frame Karen Read?! Makes no sense. I am with you Coff!! PS thanks for sticking up for Chloe!
They’re not actively covering up, they just didn’t do their jobs properly so they can’t provide solid evidence. If they had done their jobs by the book, there would be a lot more reliable evidence available. Instead, they all just assumed Karen was responsible, or worse that no one else could possibly be responsible. They would have done better by all innocent parties if they had followed procedures exactly. If the McCabes and Albert’s are innocent, they needed 100% by the book and zero conflicts of interest to back them up. They have neither leg to stand on. And the evidence that Karen is guilty is not reliable so she can’t reliably be found guilty. Even if she is, it would easy get overturned in an appeal.
Thanks Jen for being a voice of reason for these cases. A lot of people so caught up in the speculation that those of us that watch true crime stories really don’t know what reports are true or what is imaginary or just a theory. It’s nice to have a channel to watch that I feel is truthful and doesn’t feed into speculation. 😊
@Kray-og6qv Why would you be watching this then? Is it just so you could “suggest” what others should watch? Melanie Little is a lawyer. Lawyers are trained to push agendas. But thanks for “suggestion” but I’m good.
@Kray-og6qv Why do you think you need to tell me what to think or watch. I “suggest” you consider not assuming my opinion needs changing. Also, attorney’s pick and choose what to share as most do, but are much better at it than the average person.
I don’t believe that’s a dogs bite either. A bite is more round like a bite that’s glass or heavy scratching like sliced. Not a dog bite. Getting pathetic the full case is looking guilty as.
She didn't 'debunk' the dog involvement at all. She failed miserably at that. She just parroted the false BS of the same players in this framing of Karen Read. Attorney Melanie Little had a lifelong master police K9 dog expert on her channel, who clearly showed that the marks on John Okeefe's right arm are identical to the marks a dog would leave on a person. He has 25+ years of intense experience with dogs & dog bites. Which is monumentally more experience than any medical examiner, as how many ppl does a coroner/medical examiner see where dog bites would be their cause of death. Likely zero, whereas the master K9 trainer said that he's seen far too many dogbites to even guess at a total number. I challenge Coffindafer to a far deeper test/analysis of the dog bite mark experience of the medical examiner versus the Master Police K9 trainer that Ms Melanie Little had interviewed, along with the actual displays he provided. Also challenging the total number of dog bite cases the medical examiner has seen versus the number the Master Police K9 trainer has seen. Coffindafer provided practically zero of the needed details relative to why this family dog was re-homed instead of going thru whatever would be necessary for the family dog to remain in that home, with her original 'parents'. No date of when this alleged dogfight/dogbite happened, nor what was involved in the legal & pet keeping processes after that occurred. Zero 'debunking'... she's just repeating very flawed info because of her heavy (and wrongful) bias in this case.
I believe she hit him. And those scratches, are human. Not a dog. Go look at your own dogs nails. They are VERY close together. Those scratches are from a human. I was a Firefighter/Rescue for several years, I've been on many calls for dog bites, maulings, etc, and I've seen scratches from both dogs and humans. I believe the cops are corrupt, and they are not well respected there. But. I do think they got this right.
I have been confused about the state of his arm. Wouldn’t he have been wearing bulky clothing items in January ahead of a winter storm? Since you mentioned they are superficial I can’t fathom how they look like they do. Hope that makes sense. PS love your channel
Ok Jennifer. I’m hooked, Karen Read supporters may be wearing something more dark and sinister vs pink after the trial. Have a beautiful Sunday! God Bless!
Well, unlike Brian Albert & Brian Higgins, we don't destroy our phones before investigators can get them. We also don't make a call talking about John Okeefe''s dead body over an hour BEFORE Karen Read discovers it. We also don't pull up Google at 2:27 AM and do a search on "hos long to die in cold". (Hint: It wasn't Karen that Googled that) We also don't delete massive amounts of calls, screenshots, texts, etc in the middle of the night like Jenn McCabe and others did. We also don't go into a Proffer with the Feds when we are innocent of the event. The only ones deserving of dark/sinister clothing is the ones that support the real killers, the Albert/McCabe cartel.
@Kray-og6qv Yes, I agree. What a mess. I do know about the chain of custody and the collection of evidence. All I can say is wow... It was a botched investigation.
@Kray-og6qv Yes that heap of clothing on the floor. Hopefully there is more from just the clothing that can be analized in this case. I know the chain of custody protocol within departments.
@@debrapavelski5291 You obviously know nothing about evidence if you can't even realize it's not credible or evidence at all if it has been that compromised. No chain of custody and no logging = easily could have been washed, de-haired, contaminated, or tampered with to any degree. 100% not credible.
This is actually a good debunking. 👍 I wish you and good debunkers would help to STOP the Witness Harrassment and Victim Makers in the "true crime" criminals and exploiters community community. That would actually make a difference in society
I would not recommend anyone listen to this former FBI agent, incredible dumb commentator when she was on Court TV, " Those are not dog bites mark"!!! Are you kidding? What FBI training facilities did you went through? You shouldn't have any podcasts at all.
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One thing that bothers me is that all these people were drinking and driving and ALLOWING and KNOWING everyone was drinking and driving-there is something inherently wrong about that…..
Not when you’re from Boston & all the cops & small towns are corrupt they all do it daily
I will be waiting for your debunking proof...I will wait
Still waiting 😂😂.. Oh, that's right. She can't debunk shit. Pitiful she is!
You know what’s sad about this case? If you say “the John O’Keefe” case so many people will have no idea what you are talking about, but if you say “the Karen Read” case, almost everyone knows the case (at least in the TC world). I thought of that when Coff said “the John O’Keefe” case in the beginning of the video. Good on you Coff for always remembering and fighting for the victims 🤍🙌🏽
So many people, especially TH-camrs focus on the suspects, so it’s refreshing to hear the opposite here ♥️
Karen Read has been idolized by some people. Exactly what happened to Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman in 1996. The free oj movement back in 1996. Now, it is 'free Karen Read'.
@@phatt8970 yes so true
The suspect is playing the victim, will the real victim get justice?????
My son was attacked by a dog when he was 4 yr old. And sadly, the bites looked exactly like Officer O’Keefe’s arm. Not to mention, your opinion is based primarily on statements by witnesses. If the pictures alone do not dispute a hit and run, explain why the homeowners never came out of their house when EMS/LE were responding to finding Officer O’keefe on their lawn? Why didn’t they investigate the home? How is there a hair on the bumper but no blood? How did no one who left that night see him in the snow?
And the clothing was riding around in the back of someone’s car for 3 weeks before it was tested, so it’s useless as evidence. That’s my problem with this case…all the evidence has been mishandled from the start. It’s now a case of he said she said and the victim and victims family will never receive justice or even know for sure what happened. No one can be convicted from this unravelled ball of yarn
Brian Albert retired shortly after the murder. Higgins is now unemployed and looking for work. His Federal Grand Jury testimony has quoted him talking about his federal proffer, and getting the OK from Morrissey to destroy his phone despite a preservation order.
Can you debunk this conspiracy about the destroying of phones ?
@@Leela879Albert wasn't on duty. Albert, like everyone else knows you can't enter a crime scene, but they were probably SLEEPING until 3 police officers entered the home,; Lank, Goode, and Gallagher I think are their names. They entered the Albert home while O'Keefe was being transported to the hospital.
Hmm, it seems Jen ran in screaming and woke them up. If cops went in that house, but never thought to question, search, interview the people inside?? Never even crossed their mind to look for his other shoe, shirt and hat inaide the reaidence of the scene.
guess the Alberts slept through all of that
I’m sorry… but I really didn’t hear any factual debunking on here… you are simply just stating the prosecutions side of the case…
Yes, seems Jennifer Coffindaffer has a dog in this fight!?? I wonder, did SHE adopt the Alberts dog who attacked John O'Keefe? 👀
She is spreading misinformation, and she knows it too!
No factual debunking? Are you joking?
You aren't letting yourself actually hear what was said because youve already made your mind up.
@@CountessKitten I don' know if she got the dog, but it sure seems evident that she got *something* from the Alberts - would explain her blind allegiance to them, for sure.
100 percent
The examiner stated the cause of death was undete. Conversely, the FBI investigation stated it wasn't a car hit ; thus, there are conflicting opinions. Next week begin all evidence.
Scratches on his right arm could have been human fingernails, probably not very long or the scratches would’ve been deeper. I don’t know. Did anyone check her fingernails that day or around that time? The were in the car for several minutes, apparently they were in an argument, KR was very angry. His injuries were mainly on his face and head region. Weren’t severe enough as if he was punched in the face in a fight with a strong man. There were no major bruises on his body, the kind he would’ve gotten in a brawl with an equally strong man like officer Albert. Blunt force bruises on head and face could have been Karen Read hitting him, punching him a car closed space. No one would hear their loud voices in the car rom outside or inside the house. He got out of car to walk to the house, she also got out, picked up blunt object from car, walked behind struck him on back of his head in an uncontrollable rage in her drunkenness- not with intent to kill him, not realizing how hard she hit him. Caused a concussion and bleeding in his brain knocked him out completely never woke up died in the cold from hypothermia. She drove off in car, leaving angry voicemails or texts - can’t remember- she was angry all the to her home. Sound recorded in the home she went right to bed. Woke up next morning frantic remembered what happened, drove to the house found his body on the front yard where she left him, thought he was dead, panicked, came up with she accidentally backed into him with her car, didn’t remember what happened. Took out an object, smashed her taillights, picked up the pieces planted them on his body before she left the scene. Called her friends, asked her taillights were broken, then did she hit him? She started the narrative. She knew where his body was in the snow her friends couldn’t see. Continue to seed narrative she backed into him. She was ready to be charged misdemeanor until defense came up with conspiracy theory cop in house did it, she pleads not guilty. Better story she went with, pretty evil. She had motive and opportunity. Problem is she got rid of hthe blunt object she hit him with -crucial evidence tied her to the crime harder prove the case. Bruises focused on the head could prove caused in the car with weaker female,she scratched on his right arm - he was the drive or got in front seat some point, she went around to his side scratched his arm trying to pull him out. Something like that. She had more to hurt him. No one in the house did, drag his body to front yard frame KR, hoping she was too drunk to remember, hoped she may have hit him. Too risky. Why leave body on front yard. Cover a crime, move body far away as possible can’t link to the body and crime. Obviously. If she did this - she is 100% guilty. Hard to prove w/o weapon. She will never confess. So sad for JO family. Looks worn get justice for JO in human court of law. Maybe some other way divine arrangement. Have to wait and see, and pray for his family.
I don’t allow the photo
But I’m showing it here
Unfortunately the dog has bitten
It’s a dangerous dog
And has been given the green dream
No, she doesn't allow the rest of the autopsy photos to be shown but I'm sure you had that already figured out genius.
@@nunyabizness573 go back and listen again that’s not what she said. She said she doesn’t show this photo.
@@louisejeffries7155 No that's not what she was saying and you know it.
@@nunyabizness573 last comment again I will say go back and listen to it
OFFICER. Why is it so difficult to call him by Officer!
Btian Albert has been retired since last year 🤦♀️
@Kray-og6qv The Canton police chief did.
@@ThomasJones-ij6hv no she didn't. She's still there, and as corrupt as all of the other cops.
Where did the ME say they’re not dog bites?
She said not a fight
She should have mentioned no dog bite
No train wreck
Didn’t jump from a bridge
Didn’t what ever else
Its very peculiar especially as proctor was standing over her
Yea ME’s don’t make it a habit to put what a person DIDN’T die from, which is coincidentally exactly what the defense is claiming happened.
I saw the photo during the trial on Friday. My capture is much brighter and clearer than yours. The scratches are totally puncture type wounds as if from claws. The EMT even called them furrows and demonstrated with a claw-like scratch gesture. Also I saw the vehicle and all smooth rounded surface. No sharp jagged metal edges. We already know how the tail light was damaged. Not buying what you’re selling.
This is either a cover up or gross negligence on part of the investigation. Terrible job gathering evidence. Where's the officers belt and shoes. You have to go in the house and investigate before the dog gets lost and they change all the bloody floors
Actually you’re wrong!!! She left a VM saying that. Couples argue and say nasty things, that’s not motive for murder. Since it seems you’re trying to say that Karen wanted to be with Higgins and John and Karen were about to break up - why would she kill him??? He gave her an out, if she wanted to see someone else, she could have just agreed and broke up with him. The way you exaggerate the facts is just unbelievable. Why didn’t Brian Albert come outside? Why did Higgins destroy his SIM card and phone, change his number and phone provider???? What the hell did John hit his head on to cause the laceration?? How the hell is it possible for a man who’s 6’2” not have once bruise anywhere below his neck??? Not have any internal injuries?? What about the fact that the specialist the FBI hired made it clear in his report and sworn affidavit that it is not possible that John was hit by Karen’s vehicle - are you just going to ignore all of that???
Yes... yes she is going to ignore anything that isn't on the side of the state
And the first day of testimony has Officer O'Keefe's sister in law saying they were planning another vacation before the Albert's murdered him.
Three independent reports provided by the FBI to the defence.
Was Colin there?? At the party?? 20 mph? No way! What about the DOG BITES!?!?!?!
Sorry, disagreeing with you on this case. The video of her backing up and hitting John's car clearly shows an INTACT passenger side taillight. Siding with the "conspirators" on this one!
I thought this initially too, but when I watched it on Court TV, I put it on slow mode and took screenshots so I could zoom in, there def looks to be pieces already missing. I currently am undecided on this case and am waiting to see all the evidence., but I encourage you to take another look at thar video. What is clear so far is that the investigators have done a substandard job with so many conflicts of interest leaving so much room for criticism.
Did David Traub give you these points?
I am curious if anyone knows. Was Chloe, the dog, a K-9 officer or a pet? Either way, I don't believe those are bite marks. I am just assuming K-9 officer would be trained to latch on & subdue until called off. A pet protecting, I think, would bite once & retreat unless the threat continued. Either way, it would be punctures, not scratches, because that is what causes animal bites to be so dangerous; the breaking of the skin & allowing saliva to enter causing infection.
#Paula-FunnyFarm I have seen dog bites that actually look similar to John's marks. When trying to pull the dog off the arm, it causes deep rows of lacerations as the teeth are being dragged down from the arm.
I mean no disrespect but please address the larger questions. I look forward to your next video with the hopes that you do.
What about the google search on jennifers phone "how long to die in the cold"? The missing footage from a building that would show the state of the taillight? Doesnt it look guilty to liquidate your assets and move that quickly? Ill be the first ti admit that all i know are what these videos and articles keep saying. What about the lead investigator being close friends of the owner of that house and possible suspect? (I forget his name)
I feel bad for the dog. Im a animal lover and id fight tooth and nail to keep them even if they had an issue with another dog. Poor thing
She can't explain it. Once the 2 netural highly qualified guys testify it's over, it's over anyway but you're right soooo much suspicious behaviour and she can't explain it. Deleted calls, throwing phones, sallport and library footage missing, search, tailight, no injuries from waist down, laughable testimony from trooper paul about flying 30 foot holding glass and scratches from smooth tailight, missing ring footag after being in trooper Proctors hands, missing dog, selling house, snow plough driver not seeing a body and ford edge blocking path, collusion with each other, Proctor himself from beginning having it in for Karen, no one comimg in or out of house, so much more, anyway all that aside and so much more once those guys testify it's over ❤
Why can’t you say Officer John O’Keefe?
I do usually :)
@@BreakTheCaseusually?
But you didn’t
@@BreakTheCase He was 6'2 and he only got hit on his head by her tail light ?
Not his legs or torso?
Come on, you're an fbi agent?
Use your common sense!
How fast was she going in reverse 100 miles and hour?
On a drive way?
Tail lights don't break into thousand pieces by just hitting a human head.
If it's a metal piece, then it might.
Dogs do scratch when you're holding them back from biting someone and their paws reach out the other person.
That's what it looks like on that arm picture.
@@LimeInTheCoconuts common sense??😄
If you're behind an suv and they reverse at 1 mile per hour, are your legs 0r torso getting hit first 0r your head, if you're 6'2 ?
@@jessecars2406 your arm and your face, but only in this alternate reality
With all due respect, how the glass could cause the damage on the arm without damaging the shirt?
Where did the jacket come from that paramedics testified about?
The scenario with car would be the most rational one if the traumatic injury were adequate. Where is the point of contact with the car?
Accident could have happened in the house. Fell on the basement stairs, hit the head on the exercise equipment. The scratches could be from the dog. No one talks about when that dog disappeared.
No German shepherd would sleep through yelling and 4 cars with flashing lights accumulation in-front of the master’s house.
Maybe prosecutors will show the evidence later, I hope.
For society is better to have one drunk driver than a corrupt police department and a family of psychopaths.
I disagree! Although you have many insightful thoughts, I believe the evidence proves otherwise. I love the critical thinking! Thank you for taking the time to comment and show your support here at Break The Case! Keep watching! ⚖️🔍
She can't debunk anything. No evidence, wait for 2 guys that were hired by fbi previously who are netural who are going to say not consistent with car crash.
I'm glad you are not my judge...j/s
Copslaining the Canton Conspiracy!#BLUELINEGANG❤️💙❤️💙
Then why was officer O'Keefe not treated with the same level of respect?
Regardless of inoocent or guilt... why so many lies? Too many family connections. Look at Auntie Bev saving Higgens from a federal crime yesterday!
Oh Jenny Clapendaffy what are you on
I have been a nurse practitioner for over 20 years and an ER/trauma RN before that. You can not conclude that those "lacerations" are not dog bites, Jennifer, and you know that. I also heard you say that you are not a dog bite expert, so, making this statement seem even more absurd. I am really trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here but I'm struggling.
No dog DNA. Full stop.
@@BreakTheCase Why sneak up to 34 Fairview rd. harassing the new owners (on their video) to take pictures then run. You are disgraceful.
@@BreakTheCaseIt's not actually full stop. Lack of evidence is not evidence.
Afaik they sent a couple of swabs from OJO's shirt to be analyzed. They didn't preserve the clothes themselves. They didn't take swabs from his wounds.
An actual objective person would consider the DNA test (and what it shows ) and the experience of professionals who have dealt with dog bites.
@@99vargass💯
@@mygirls_710💯
Glass is blunt????
😂 Right
And are we not gonna talk about how torn O'Keefe shirt was?? That's not from a car🤦♀️
Long break ups are never good. Better to make a clean break, or stay together and be happy.
Karen needs a restraining order on this crazy lady
I’m sure all the evidence will come out and the jury will decide Read’s fate from an unbiased perspective. And I am sure a dog expert will testify to the claim he was bitten by the dog and can finally put this to rest instead of amateur internet sleuths making uninformed guesses.
But, there was no dog DNA of John's shirtsleeve.
@@dawnmills6755 exactly.
Still waiting for the evidence of her 9 drinks. Unless it was 9 drinks of the 1 drink that she had.
Evidence on that one is now in and she was hammered. Doesn’t make her guilty of murder though. Could have been guilty of manslaughter but they over charged her and screwed up the chain of evidence and investigation, plus there is something really fishy about all the butt dials, google search, and so many conflicts of interest. This case is scrambled egg all over everyone’s faces. It’s done, and we’re just watching them go through the motions now.
If you watched the trial, they showed video of her ordering and receiving nine drinks.
The fact you're "debunking" the case before the evidence is in an decided shows your bias.
You shouldn’t be trashing other people on X. It’s not a good look for you.
2 highly qualified NETURAL guys who arent on defence side or prosecution side that were hired by the FBI in the other case and took more than a math class like trooper Paul, they are going to say injuries were not consistent with a car crash and the evidence on car also not consistent. The way trooper paul TRIED to describe what happened how the smooth tailight broke on Johns arm was ridiculous and outrageous and disrespectful to John. Flying 30 feet, or 'projected' in his words, absolutely AWFUL testimony, scripted, unbelievable and not credible. NO way with overwhelming evidence of a cover up and when its all tied up in a bow NOT GUILTY. Loads of misinformation being spread around
WHY were you creeping around property.? Seen on door camera.
Where's the dog now, why would they rehoused the dog because it got the taste of blood, why did the Albert stay in the house if they were friends and there's dead guy on there lawn wow sounds like guilty to me nice so called friend ah ya you all guilty that's right well being left out in the snow could help get rid DNA besides why did they not check the Albert house it was a crime scene but we all know why it wasn't
If one wants to get the publics vote, blame law enforcement. I would believe that Johns niece and nephew would be able to tell everyone exactly what Karen and Johns relationship was like when they lived together. Justice for John O'Keefe ❤💔❤
No he said she was innocent!
Look lady I’m not saying Karen is innocent or guilty till all the evidence is out at jury. You say on court tv that all the Karen supports are wrong because the evidence isn’t all in but yet you turn around and try to debunk what little the defense has stated saying it’s wrong. You’re going below the belt as you say the supporters are so why not take the high road and leave it alone instead of trying to seek attention. As FBI agent former or not you’re fighting fire with fire which isn’t a good look. If she gets convicted(she is innocent right now by law) then you can have the last laugh.
I appreciate her videos because social media has been dominated by Turtle Boy's narrative, which is confusing and doesn't make any sense. So it is helpful to hear some of the issues from the Prosecution side, or, other people who believe she is guilty. I definitely believe she is guilty.
@nunyabizness573 do you believe the feds are investigating everyone involved, and more importantly ATF Agent Higgins proffered with the U.S Attorney?
Still??? @@nunyabizness573
Not many views, not many likes, and comments not so adoring of you, Jen. When this is all over, the next big case I vow to follow will be the defamation case of Read vs. Coffindaffer. I think you'll hear the term 'with malice' somewhere in the suit.
This is definitely a cover up
Not a perfect investigation but no coverup.
The FBI couldn’t even uncover a cover up. Cut it out
@@BreakTheCase There wasn’t an investigation. The home of lawn in which he was found was never searched. The deleted videos of the sally port and library. JO’s clothing not turned in to evidence for weeks. The phony time on vehicle search warrant. The actual text message ‘he’s a Boston Cop too.’ It’s pathetic and embarrassing that an “FBI” agent thinks this was an investigation.
Good morning everyone may God bless you all and keep you safe.
Thank you Jen for all you do ❤
Yes thank you Jen! You’re so awesome ! Thanks for taking time to break this case down! Yay mini series - TY❤🎉
I find it interesting that federal investigators found the need to investigate this investigation and the investigators, and all the conflicts surrounding the investigation. You are ex-FBI, and yet you are ignoring the very results of your fellow colleagues’ investigation, including cell phone records, specialist accident reconstruction undertaken by the FBI (three PHDs) and other facts that only became known as a result of the federal investigation, not because of the county investigation. You also don’t know all the facts in evidence, the only parties who know that are the prosecution and defense; so with respect, how are you not speculating? You are merely quoting pre-trial motions, which are only a fraction of the case. My question to you is, if someone is found dead on the lawn outside a house, regardless of what is assumed to be the cause, would you not still obtain a warrant to search the inside of the property/house to rule out any possibility of foul play? That’s common sense. I’m afraid you’ve debunked nothing; the only thing that will debunk any allegations from either side is a trial, not your opinions, nor anyone else’s. And because you are also merely speculating and relying on your own opinions, and presenting them as facts, you have lost credibility with me. You can stick to the facts and still inform, and it’s for this reason I have unsubscribed, as conjecture and insulting other people’s opinions is not what this case needs more of, sadly you are placing yourself in the same cesspool, whether you like it or not.
This lady needs her meds changed 🤦🏻♂️
Ooohhhhh I’ve been waiting for this 👏🏻 👏🏻 Ty - you’re amazing !
The problem stemmed from those involved being wasted! If these people were not partying like irresponsible teens, this wouldn't have happened in the first place!
You really are biased.
We have not see the autopsy report yet, but the ME has cited other injuries to Officer O'Keefe which are in court documents.
Appreciate Your Educated and Experience and sharing with us ...Thanks Jen..
We will see in trial the ME autopsy reports by a educated expert....
And all evidence ‼️
Just for John O'Keefe 🇺🇸
@SlabCityNews see what the jury says ...
@SlabCityNews see what evidence shows
What happened to tomorrow?
You are painful to watch 🙈
I have a question about the scratches. Was he wearing a jacket at the time of his death?
Perfect!
Thanks Jen ..
Justice For John O'Keefe 🇺🇸
I believe in facts, and digital evidence will reveal something hopefully to get justice for this Law Enforcement Officer.
I don't understand all the circus & attention on the defendant❓
It's really strange to me...
Justice will come🙏
This has been a campaign of innocence fraud. She has great lawyers and money. That’s the reason it’s a circus. It’s sad for the TRUE victims.
Did she shed a tear for O'Keefe?
I am late into this video but I hope you see my question.
If it was for example glass or metal that scratched Johns arm is that something they saw on his shirt? Wouldn't it penetrate the fabric? I am looking forward to seeing his shirt. Thank you for covering the case. 🙂
There are more experts to come! Stay tuned!
Before they were tested the clothes rode around in back of someone’s car- who apparently forgot they were there - for three weeks. Another piece of evidence mishandled carelessly…or purposefully. We’ll never know. All we know is that the investigation is severely botched and the truth (whatever that is) will probably never be known
You are on top of this case. Love that you tell truth & facts- much respect Jen
I believe John's injuries were from a pallet that was lying in front of the flagpole in the yard. Google maps, street view, April 2022 it was laying down in front of the flagpole. I believe this was a missed piece of evidence in this case. When viewing the pallet when zooming in, shows jagged edges and two near broken boards by the flag pole. My belief is he was hit at an angle he was thrown hit the pallet and hit the back of his head on the base of the flagpole. Love your channel .
Google maps isn't real time photos. They can be years old.
@@cryptid726 The date is time stamped as taken on April 2022. I saw this and it made sense.
@@debrapavelski5291John died Jan 29, 2022. wtf are you talking about.
@@mdub6779 Yes he did. A very sad day. The pallet was there April 2022 which was 3 months after the incident. It was under the snow. Pig DNA, no dog DNA, could it be from a pallet? Maybe I am way off, Google maps show the pallet under the flagpole. Something caused Pig DNA. Pallets come from farms. People make things out of them. I do. Scratches with no canine DNA, but pig DNA. You tell me? Be nice about it
Very good episode!! Can’t wait for the next one.
Thank you Jen. I’m going to continue to listen. 💕
Jen, thanks for your great insight. You simplify the case so everyone can understand. Good work... I love your TH-cam Page!!
Bar hopping? Going fr 1 bar to another almost across street to meet up w/ other ppl is nt bar hopping!
thank you for making this so clear. Another utuber is all out in favor of Karen and believing all the crap being put out there. I hope she sees this.
I think I know who you are talking about, and she won't hear a single point that goes against her premature conclusion. I tried and she fought me hard.
There is not denying the factual evidence that Karen read is innocent
@@Jaedeej420 The trial just started so the "factual evidence" hasn't even been presented yet.
Thank you so much for your commentary, I regretfully admit that I was totally on the Karen side. Shame on me for not being more diligent open-minded and look at the whole case.
So glad you have kept and open mind. Justice for John
Thank you!! Justice for John O’Keefe and his actual loved ones ⚖️
Why do you lie all the time?
Not a werewolf?? ???😂
Thank you for explaining this case it does make more sense. I really enjoy your videos Thank you for being on TH-cam, God bless
The harassment and intimidation of the witnesses are absolutely disgusting. I have even shed tears for the level of abuse that they have endured, that has been orchestrated by the defense. Jen, thanks for such a logical take on the case.
🤣🤣😂😂 do you need a safe space 🙄😂
There has been no harassment
Listen to the tapes
It will give you new insight and perhaps make you feel better
All of the evidence hasn't been released yet. You won't know all of the evidence until trial.
Other way around…
How was she an FBI gun instructor and make a channel to LIE.. read the documents people and you will see the truth. Karen Read is innocent. Look at the evidence and the corruption from the DA.
Higgens has a PROFFER
Very nice intro Jennifer!
I thought the same. So well done
Can’t wait for this trial ! Praying for Justice for Officer O’Keefe . I don’t believe her story .
15:00 😂 I’m giggling because you are pretending to disclose the dogs attack history when you are hiding another attack and minimizing the fact that she attacked the human in the incident you disclosed. Why is it hard to believe the dog wouldn’t attack someone fighting with its owner? 😅 Why is it so hard to understand that there was a shirt between the skin and the dog’s teeth/claws, changing the depth of penetration and the pattern of which specific tooth’s would make contact/marks on skin
The person got bit trying to break up a fight between two dogs. Of course the person got bit. There is no way the wounds on his arm are from a dog. There different lengths apart. A dogs teeth would make the same length marks on every bite and there would be puncture wounds. There would also be wounds on the other side of the arm from the bottom teeth.
@@alanhinkel420 the problem with this statement Alan is that you are assuming every single dog latch is firmly attached on both sides.. which is not true. So your assumptions just fall apart in a second of actual analysis. 🧐
@@alanhinkel420 go search any photo of a German Shepard grabbing an arm with clothing. The top two teeth are longer and therefore have a much greater chance of reaching skin than the much shorter bottom teeth. But hey, you have your opinion even if it requires absolute ignorance to hold it. It is yours to have 🙏🏽
Jen, you don’t look old enough to have all that experience!! (Not questioning you, just saying you look young!)
good analysis! thanks jen
Finally, some common sense. Thank you, Jen.☀️☀️☀️
Excellent job on explaining this crazy case. I agree when I saw the so-called dog bites! Thank you!
God morning all ❤
Good Morning
Love your takes on this Coff. You are SO spot on….
Why would so many risk their lively hood to frame Karen Read?! Makes no sense. I am with you Coff!!
PS thanks for sticking up for Chloe!
Thank you!
They’re not actively covering up, they just didn’t do their jobs properly so they can’t provide solid evidence. If they had done their jobs by the book, there would be a lot more reliable evidence available. Instead, they all just assumed Karen was responsible, or worse that no one else could possibly be responsible.
They would have done better by all innocent parties if they had followed procedures exactly. If the McCabes and Albert’s are innocent, they needed 100% by the book and zero conflicts of interest to back them up. They have neither leg to stand on. And the evidence that Karen is guilty is not reliable so she can’t reliably be found guilty. Even if she is, it would easy get overturned in an appeal.
Cloe Albert the innocent dog 🐕 🐾👏👏👏👏👏
Turtle boy is a slime ball for leaking those photos . He’s gone to far ..
Agree
Thank you Jen. I have been waiting for someone trustworthy to do this series. Praying the truth will prevail.
Great perspective @Jennifer. I believe the commonwealth states there are over 50 'pages' of texts between Higgins and Read (not 50 texts). Thanks
Thanks Jen for being a voice of reason for these cases. A lot of people so caught up in the speculation that those of us that watch true crime stories really don’t know what reports are true or what is imaginary or just a theory. It’s nice to have a channel to watch that I feel is truthful and doesn’t feed into speculation. 😊
@Kray-og6qv Why would you be watching this then? Is it just so you could “suggest” what others should watch?
Melanie Little is a lawyer. Lawyers are trained to push agendas. But thanks for “suggestion” but I’m good.
@Kray-og6qv Why do you think you need to tell me what to think or watch. I “suggest” you consider not assuming my opinion needs changing. Also, attorney’s pick and choose what to share as most do, but are much better at it than the average person.
This was very informative, thank you 😊
#agreed 100%
I don’t believe that’s a dogs bite either. A bite is more round like a bite that’s glass or heavy scratching like sliced. Not a dog bite. Getting pathetic the full case is looking guilty as.
What a very sad case! This poor man😢 & his family. I am a dog Lover too ..TY for debunking the dog’s involvement 🙏🙏🙏
She didn't 'debunk' the dog involvement at all. She failed miserably at that. She just parroted the false BS of the same players in this framing of Karen Read. Attorney Melanie Little had a lifelong master police K9 dog expert on her channel, who clearly showed that the marks on John Okeefe's right arm are identical to the marks a dog would leave on a person. He has 25+ years of intense experience with dogs & dog bites.
Which is monumentally more experience than any medical examiner, as how many ppl does a coroner/medical examiner see where dog bites would be their cause of death. Likely zero, whereas the master K9 trainer said that he's seen far too many dogbites to even guess at a total number. I challenge Coffindafer to a far deeper test/analysis of the dog bite mark experience of the medical examiner versus the Master Police K9 trainer that Ms Melanie Little had interviewed, along with the actual displays he provided. Also challenging the total number of dog bite cases the medical examiner has seen versus the number the Master Police K9 trainer has seen.
Coffindafer provided practically zero of the needed details relative to why this family dog was re-homed instead of going thru whatever would be necessary for the family dog to remain in that home, with her original 'parents'. No date of when this alleged dogfight/dogbite happened, nor what was involved in the legal & pet keeping processes after that occurred.
Zero 'debunking'... she's just repeating very flawed info because of her heavy (and wrongful) bias in this case.
She’s guilty as sin
thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
Excellent point Jen! Where are the lower dog teeth marks? Those are not dog bites.
Thank you for taking this on. I'm looking forward to part 2. 💛
I believe she hit him. And those scratches, are human. Not a dog. Go look at your own dogs nails. They are VERY close together.
Those scratches are from a human.
I was a Firefighter/Rescue for several years, I've been on many calls for dog bites, maulings, etc, and I've seen scratches from both dogs and humans.
I believe the cops are corrupt, and they are not well respected there.
But. I do think they got this right.
Great insight! Welcome to Break The Case! ⚖️🔍
Do the Alberts have a cat? Defense needs a new suspect.
Try reading the court documents instead of this lady..She has shown no proof of anything yet and I will be waiting for proof to debunk
@Kray-og6qv Going to jail for what? Have another drink.
I have been confused about the state of his arm. Wouldn’t he have been wearing bulky clothing items in January ahead of a winter storm? Since you mentioned they are superficial I can’t fathom how they look like they do. Hope that makes sense.
PS love your channel
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Ok Jennifer. I’m hooked, Karen Read supporters may be wearing something more dark and sinister vs pink after the trial. Have a beautiful Sunday! God Bless!
Well, unlike Brian Albert & Brian Higgins, we don't destroy our phones before investigators can get them.
We also don't make a call talking about John Okeefe''s dead body over an hour BEFORE Karen Read discovers it.
We also don't pull up Google at 2:27 AM and do a search on "hos long to die in cold". (Hint: It wasn't Karen that Googled that)
We also don't delete massive amounts of calls, screenshots, texts, etc in the middle of the night like Jenn McCabe and others did.
We also don't go into a Proffer with the Feds when we are innocent of the event.
The only ones deserving of dark/sinister clothing is the ones that support the real killers, the Albert/McCabe cartel.
Proven no dog bites. There would be dog hair on the clothing. Poor Chloe. Not her fault.
@Kray-og6qv Yes, I agree. What a mess. I do know about the chain of custody and the collection of evidence. All I can say is wow... It was a botched investigation.
@Kray-og6qv Yes that heap of clothing on the floor. Hopefully there is more from just the clothing that can be analized in this case. I know the chain of custody protocol within departments.
@@debrapavelski5291 You obviously know nothing about evidence if you can't even realize it's not credible or evidence at all if it has been that compromised. No chain of custody and no logging = easily could have been washed, de-haired, contaminated, or tampered with to any degree. 100% not credible.
This is actually a good debunking. 👍
I wish you and good debunkers would help to STOP the Witness Harrassment and Victim Makers in the "true crime" criminals and exploiters community community. That would actually make a difference in society
Finally!!! I love the facts from you @JennCoffindafer! I respect your FBI training for so many years! 💙❤️💯
Well done intro
3:05 Wait, have you read any of Higgins texts? 😂
I would not recommend anyone listen to this former FBI agent, incredible dumb commentator when she was on Court TV, " Those are not dog bites mark"!!! Are you kidding? What FBI training facilities did you went through? You shouldn't have any podcasts at all.