City Grip is the best overall scooter tire I have ever rode on. I have tried the Diablo, Diablo Rosso and Angel. The city grip is most agile feeling and comfortable over bumps. I hope the CG2 rides the same.
Feedback on these 2nd generation michelins: Fantastic. My honda scooter has the generation 1 or the rear and gen 2 on the front. I ride year-round in the mountains in Austria. The gen 2 in the front is always predictable and communicative, even in heavy rain or light snow. Gen 2 is M+S rated (Mud and Snow), meaning it is approved for all season use. The gen 1 (Not M+S) in the rear does not like wet roads, especially the painted lines. Medium acceleration with a slight lean can lose grip and kick the rear of the bike sideways when roads are wet and riding over the painted lines or steel from sewer covers or tram rails. Not fun. By contrast, the gen 2 tire holds its line over all terrain and conditions. When it is pushed beyond its limits, it releases grip progressively and in a predictable way, allowing the rider to correct and stay safe. Wear on the gen 2 is great, but are somewhat noisy when carving corners in the dry. Rubber compound on the gen 2 is fantastic in the dry and my scoot drags hard parts in good corners. Braking grip is stellar, even in wet. I find them to give excellent precision and maneuverability. Just ordered gen 2 for the rear of my scoot which will go on before winter. My partner just got her first scoot, which came with pirellis, and we will mount up these gen 2 michelins at the end of summer season. For just a few euros extra, I see these City Grip 2's as the only viable option for our use, especially when considering the penalty for losing traction on 2 wheels. These are only my observations, every rider makes their own individual choices.
I just mounted a set of City Grip 2 on my Burgman 400, was previously using Bridgestone Hoop. The Hoops actually did a really good job, I haven't had much riding time with the City Grip 2 as of yet
@madhatterentmt6146 overall I prefer the Hoops, City Grip 2 is a really good tire but I had issues when leaning into a turn, felt like the bike was slipping.
@@rico-989 thank hopefully I'll give em a try been having problems finding city grips in the size I need anyways so hopefully they got them in the hoops
The City Grip 2’s have a silicon compound tire for enhanced traction in the wet. Unfortunately from what I have seen they are almost twice the price of the regular City Grip.
my bv500 had diablos, i already put a city grip 1 on the front, just got a city grip 2 to put on the back, after riding the diablo down to the air inside it.
I have been riding GTS 300's since 2014 and only tried one other rear tyre brand than Michelin. It wasn't 't much cheaper and the tyre fitter persuaded me to try it. It didn't wear as well as Michelin. So guess what I will be sticking with, the Michelin man of course. I find that they seem to last really well and grip well too. Next time I will try city grip 2, looking forward to your next vid Robot, cheers
James, your last name is quite interesting from an ancestry perspective. Are you having german ancestors? My last name is Kroell (ger. Kröll) and I know some of my ancestors relatives moved to the USA several 100 years ago and changed their last name from Kröll to Krell.
2007 GTS250ie, 6800miles, I'm the original owner, Just swapped out the original Sava tires for City Grips. Professionally balanced and installed. Now I have a front end wobble at 30mph. Only obvious when single-hand riding, but still rather disconcerting all the same.
Thanks as always Robot! You hit on a subject that I'm passionate about. Michelins! When ever I buy a new vehicle (old or new) it HAS to have Michelins immediatley or I just don't want to drive it. My dilemma now is that I have 3 Helix, and a number of motorcycles. I want Michelins for the Heli and started looking about a month ago for them. I was so disappointed in that I could not seem to find Michelins in the correct size. Fronts for the Helix are: 110/100-12 and Rears: 120/90-10. I still think I'm out of luck. I'll have to visit your store and see if you have the Bridgestones that came from the factoy so I can support you and your channel. I LOVE this channel and love it when my "notification" bell goes off. Thanks for all you do my friend. You're one of a kind!
I have a Honda Monkey (previously had Honda Grom). Had City Grip on the Grom. I used City Grip 2 on my Monkey (unfortunately Michelin do not make these in an 80 (eg 120x12-80) so bit disappointed but went with what was on offer. In my opinion these are the BEST tyres in the wet (and dry). I had V rubbers on it before which were good too but when I had to change couldn't get them and went for the stock size Pirelli SI60 (they were awful in the wet) so changed as soon as I could to Michelin. Couldn't be happier!!
Thanks for the weight clarification, I'm trying to get the lightest tires I can on my aerox 155, the best scooter ever that the US didn't get haha I want better acceleration, top speed, and fuel economy so weight is crucial. RB sp811 rims save 1kg per rim of rotating mass and saving .5kg per tire going with the 1's not the city grip 2's will net a total in 1.5kg weight savings per wheel, a massive performance increase!
Hi Robot! Definitely interested in purchasing Citygrips for my GT200. Want to be sure though its time for my old tires to go. How do you tell when Pirelli GTS 24 are past the wear mark? Thanks!
The original City grips really helped on bumpy roads, were a nice soft compound, absorbed the bumps better than most tyres and made the ride much better. Are the City Grip 2`s still soft and good at helping with comfort as much anyone. Thanks.
I agree with you about the city grip's comfort. I was a Pirelli fan and now I am converted to Michelin. The City Grip is the softest and most comfortable tire while being the most agile and easiest to lean over. Online stores are running out of stock on the 1st city grip. I was hoping to stock up. The only tire that comes close to city grip comfort is the 1st Diablo but that has been discontinued.
I be getting Brand New Scooter and I checking on the tires for it! I am put it on myself because cost to much for motorcycle dealer put on the tires for Piaggio mp3 200cc Mr. Robot
Would this also be a good tire for a 125 or should I run something softer? I figured with the lower speeds of a 125 a softer tire will still last pretty long.
I was buying City Grip as spares just as we went to UK lock down - I found the same sizes were available in different ratings, not just one for each size. Also some are declared as Rear Only or Front Only...I was careful to order the correct ones and not be lead by price!
Tyres indeed is a copletely subjective theme...For the first time i will disagre with you. For example i prefer Pireli angels which are maybe the most popular scooter tyre in my country. Michelins have the reputation of rapid decrease in their performance after very few months. I don' t know if you have pireli, metzeler etc available at the States but it would be nice idea to make a comparation video of various scooter tyres. Thank you once again for the nice content.
What is the best street legal scooter tire in terms of grip for use in dry, warm, tropical weather (20-35C), in speeds up to 60-70 km/h? I don't care about price and durability. I want the tire to warm fast and maintain performance during its life span. I am not riding in wet conditions.
@@gumonthepants Diablos are very good types. More sporty than angels. Check if there is available the new metzeler roadtech for your scooter's wheel dimensions. It is the newest scooter type, and maybe is better than angels.
@@orfeas92 Well, the only reason I asked is because for my Kymco Like 150i the Diablos are the only ones available to me right now in my size from RevZilla. They look awesome, and my sportbike friends all have them on their bikes and love them.
Joseph Marton I use to ride the Angel now have city grip. Extreme Lean angles are easier with Angels but it is a stiff tire. I find the city grip to be much more comfortable and easier quick turns.
i have the Road 4s on my yamaha tmax. thinking of this new city grip 2 for my front tire...if its nicer than my road 4s. sounds like its not quite as nice. what do you think....are these as nice as the road 4s?
City Grip is the best overall scooter tire I have ever rode on. I have tried the Diablo, Diablo Rosso and Angel. The city grip is most agile feeling and comfortable over bumps. I hope the CG2 rides the same.
Feedback on these 2nd generation michelins: Fantastic. My honda scooter has the generation 1 or the rear and gen 2 on the front. I ride year-round in the mountains in Austria. The gen 2 in the front is always predictable and communicative, even in heavy rain or light snow. Gen 2 is M+S rated (Mud and Snow), meaning it is approved for all season use. The gen 1 (Not M+S) in the rear does not like wet roads, especially the painted lines. Medium acceleration with a slight lean can lose grip and kick the rear of the bike sideways when roads are wet and riding over the painted lines or steel from sewer covers or tram rails. Not fun. By contrast, the gen 2 tire holds its line over all terrain and conditions. When it is pushed beyond its limits, it releases grip progressively and in a predictable way, allowing the rider to correct and stay safe. Wear on the gen 2 is great, but are somewhat noisy when carving corners in the dry. Rubber compound on the gen 2 is fantastic in the dry and my scoot drags hard parts in good corners. Braking grip is stellar, even in wet. I find them to give excellent precision and maneuverability. Just ordered gen 2 for the rear of my scoot which will go on before winter. My partner just got her first scoot, which came with pirellis, and we will mount up these gen 2 michelins at the end of summer season. For just a few euros extra, I see these City Grip 2's as the only viable option for our use, especially when considering the penalty for losing traction on 2 wheels. These are only my observations, every rider makes their own individual choices.
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I just mounted a set of City Grip 2 on my Burgman 400, was previously using Bridgestone Hoop.
The Hoops actually did a really good job, I haven't had much riding time with the City Grip 2 as of yet
which ones did you prefer
@madhatterentmt6146 overall I prefer the Hoops, City Grip 2 is a really good tire but I had issues when leaning into a turn, felt like the bike was slipping.
@@rico-989 thank hopefully I'll give em a try been having problems finding city grips in the size I need anyways so hopefully they got them in the hoops
@madhatterentmt6146 when I ordered my City Grips the back tire was on back order, had to wait 3 weeks
The City Grip 2’s have a silicon compound tire for enhanced traction in the wet. Unfortunately from what I have seen they are almost twice the price of the regular City Grip.
my bv500 had diablos, i already put a city grip 1 on the front, just got a city grip 2 to put on the back, after riding the diablo down to the air inside it.
I have been riding GTS 300's since 2014 and only tried one other rear tyre brand than Michelin. It wasn't 't much cheaper and the tyre fitter persuaded me to try it. It didn't wear as well as Michelin. So guess what I will be sticking with, the Michelin man of course. I find that they seem to last really well and grip well too. Next time I will try city grip 2, looking forward to your next vid Robot, cheers
Thanks for the input!
James, your last name is quite interesting from an ancestry perspective. Are you having german ancestors? My last name is Kroell (ger. Kröll) and I know some of my ancestors relatives moved to the USA several 100 years ago and changed their last name from Kröll to Krell.
2007 GTS250ie, 6800miles, I'm the original owner, Just swapped out the original Sava tires for City Grips. Professionally balanced and installed. Now I have a front end wobble at 30mph. Only obvious when single-hand riding, but still rather disconcerting all the same.
Thanks as always Robot! You hit on a subject that I'm passionate about. Michelins! When ever I buy a new vehicle (old or new) it HAS to have Michelins immediatley or I just don't want to drive it. My dilemma now is that I have 3 Helix, and a number of motorcycles. I want Michelins for the Heli and started looking about a month ago for them. I was so disappointed in that I could not seem to find Michelins in the correct size. Fronts for the Helix are: 110/100-12 and Rears: 120/90-10. I still think I'm out of luck. I'll have to visit your store and see if you have the Bridgestones that came from the factoy so I can support you and your channel. I LOVE this channel and love it when my "notification" bell goes off. Thanks for all you do my friend. You're one of a kind!
Thanks so much for the support! Stop by the shop sometime or give us a call, hopefully we can help you out.
Wonderfull video. What's be best combination for a Vespa GTS300 on 13" wheels? 120/70 with 140/60? or 130/70 with 130/70? Or waht else? Help needed!
Good day Mr. Robot, can you show more repair videos for piaggio mp3 500......
thank you
I have a Honda Monkey (previously had Honda Grom). Had City Grip on the Grom. I used City Grip 2 on my Monkey (unfortunately Michelin do not make these in an 80 (eg 120x12-80) so bit disappointed but went with what was on offer. In my opinion these are the BEST tyres in the wet (and dry). I had V rubbers on it before which were good too but when I had to change couldn't get them and went for the stock size Pirelli SI60 (they were awful in the wet) so changed as soon as I could to Michelin. Couldn't be happier!!
Hey Robot, I see a lot of people mounting the front tire backwards when using the city grip 2s. Can you do a video on proper mounting direction ?
Bought city grip 2 120/70/12 for my scooter but they are the same arrow rotation, can injust reverse the rear? Thanks.
Can you give up an update on these tires? I am thinking of using them on a grom.
Thanks for the weight clarification, I'm trying to get the lightest tires I can on my aerox 155, the best scooter ever that the US didn't get haha I want better acceleration, top speed, and fuel economy so weight is crucial. RB sp811 rims save 1kg per rim of rotating mass and saving .5kg per tire going with the 1's not the city grip 2's will net a total in 1.5kg weight savings per wheel, a massive performance increase!
The city grips are OK, they took me a while to scrub them in. I prefer Pirelli Diablo.
Hi Robot! Definitely interested in purchasing Citygrips for my GT200. Want to be sure though its time for my old tires to go. How do you tell when Pirelli GTS 24 are past the wear mark? Thanks!
he city grip 2 is the best tire that is being made nowadays.
Very helpful. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
The original City grips really helped on bumpy roads, were a nice soft compound, absorbed the bumps better than most tyres and made the ride much better. Are the City Grip 2`s still soft and good at helping with comfort as much anyone. Thanks.
I agree with you about the city grip's comfort. I was a Pirelli fan and now I am converted to Michelin. The City Grip is the softest and most comfortable tire while being the most agile and easiest to lean over. Online stores are running out of stock on the 1st city grip. I was hoping to stock up. The only tire that comes close to city grip comfort is the 1st Diablo but that has been discontinued.
You guys have to make a video with scooter tyres!!!
Thank you for information, just purchased 120/70 14 for Peugeot Satelis 250, I think it will be a very good tyre.
I be getting Brand New Scooter and I checking on the tires for it! I am put it on myself because cost to much for motorcycle dealer put on the tires for Piaggio mp3 200cc Mr. Robot
Kipping doing with the good work . I am learning a lot. Thank you
Glad to hear it
Would this also be a good tire for a 125 or should I run something softer? I figured with the lower speeds of a 125 a softer tire will still last pretty long.
I wanna get these tires for my Fly E-Bike electric motorcycle 2022 Z6. I was looking at these somewhere.
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I was buying City Grip as spares just as we went to UK lock down - I found the same sizes were available in different ratings, not just one for each size. Also some are declared as Rear Only or Front Only...I was careful to order the correct ones and not be lead by price!
Thanks for sharing that info...
The wife has aerox 155
She put city grips 2 on it
Is it normal to feel rougher ride with it since it's all season tire
Tyres indeed is a copletely subjective theme...For the first time i will disagre with you. For example i prefer Pireli angels which are maybe the most popular scooter tyre in my country. Michelins have the reputation of rapid decrease in their performance after very few months. I don' t know if you have pireli, metzeler etc available at the States but it would be nice idea to make a comparation video of various scooter tyres. Thank you once again for the nice content.
What is the best street legal scooter tire in terms of grip for use in dry, warm, tropical weather (20-35C), in speeds up to 60-70 km/h? I don't care about price and durability. I want the tire to warm fast and maintain performance during its life span. I am not riding in wet conditions.
@@peter572 I think that pireli angel will fit you very well!
How do you guys like the Pirelli Diablo Rossi?
@@gumonthepants Diablos are very good types. More sporty than angels. Check if there is available the new metzeler roadtech for your scooter's wheel dimensions. It is the newest scooter type, and maybe is better than angels.
@@orfeas92 Well, the only reason I asked is because for my Kymco Like 150i the Diablos are the only ones available to me right now in my size from RevZilla. They look awesome, and my sportbike friends all have them on their bikes and love them.
Will a 130/60-13 fit on the front of a 2020 GTS 300 and a 140/60-13 fit the rear? Is that a good option for 13" wheels?
Any ideas why Michelin no longer DOT mark their tires as i can't see how they could manufacture a tire that's perfectly 360 balanced ?
Please do a tire removal feom the scooter ❤
Does it rain there? And does the scooter rider go out in the rail?
What are your takes on the Pirelli Angel?
Joseph Marton I use to ride the Angel now have city grip. Extreme Lean angles are easier with Angels but it is a stiff tire. I find the city grip to be much more comfortable and easier quick turns.
What PSI on the back tire?
I love my Pirelli Angel Scooter..
Care to share its weight? I'm trying to compile a list of scooter tire weights.
@@RyanRyan can you share your knowledge on scooter tire weights? Looking for lighter tires with great longevity ang grip
Do you have size 120/70 10?
Do they make a size 80/100/10
i have the Road 4s on my yamaha tmax. thinking of this new city grip 2 for my front tire...if its nicer than my road 4s. sounds like its not quite as nice. what do you think....are these as nice as the road 4s?
I’ve been driving a flat tire all summer
Going for the original city grip. I will be placing an order soon, after I sell of my mountain bikes :(
Thanks for the support!
Hi, can you recommend best comfort scooter tyres ?
For bumpy roads . thanks
Scipe ! Soften the tire better grip !maybe skipe?
Skuuter
120/70 on the front? that's huge
I dont know,i love my Pirelli Angel Scooters..
I'm on Angels, too.
I hope I can compare the tyres against eachother in the tyre shop. 🛵🏍️
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Thats a Pilot Pen.
poor tyre on the Bv 400 hpe.very poor
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