@@Thaddius0 same. i really thought that lord baelish was gonna square off against brann the boring. especially since, as glidus points out in other videos, petyr was made aware of brann's maphacks. so, littlefinger could use his own strategy and experience to outwit the guy who literally knows everything. or at least put up a good fight. have some critical piece of info petyr is unaware of be his undoing, or vice versa, be the crux of his success. he couldnt have known said piece of info, yet he acts as if he does, bc he had thought of all the possibilities, etc... the downward spiral that petyr's character suffered throughout the later half of the series is just unforgiveable. its like if the chicago bulls released michael jordan in 1993. why squander such a resource? i get it, he plays families against each other. but look, catelyn stark (CAAATTTT) was married to ned AND his brother (i think?) and petyr loved her. THAT DIDNT MEAN HE BECAME A TOTAL NITWIT. no, he built himself, his brothels, and his influence in spite of being spurned. thats what baelish does. he gets rejected, punched, throttled, but then recovers and surges. sansa should have been no different, i mean he didnt put all his chips on the table for catelyn, why would he do it for sansa in a much sketchier situation. and yes, petyr likes sketchy situations, but with jon and brann there, its just too hot for him to try to turn these two sisters against each other, using a means in which he knows a maphacker (that he meets) could totally decimate and expose him. which would and did (in the show) mean death. he likes to gamble, sure. but he's not jon snow when it comes to his own life. he's protective of his own skin. thats why he left kings landing and secured the vale for himself. marrying sansa to bolton made no sense, i'll totally agree with that. the gambling angle just doesnt cut it for me. either he loves her enough to sacrifice his own selfish desires, or he doesnt. you cant have him throw away the greatest opportunity he will ever have to be with her and mold her to his ambitions, just to have him do EXACTLY THAT, later in winterfell, after sansa hates him. no master manipulator/sociopath would do that. thats literally what a scrub ex would do. an inept simp. which littlefinger wasnt. we saw that much in kings landing, he might not get the girl, but he aims higher, and hits that mark. they reduced him to a warning to other writers: let characters drive the plot, and not plot drive the characters. especially if your plot directly contradicts what the characters would do. anyways i love glidus, dude packs so much into every vid i find myself pausing frequently, and to me thats a good thing.
Maybe the Harpies initially intended to kill Tyrion, but then they saw how dumb he was after Season 5 so they decided to let him stay with Dany in the hopes of inadvertently ruining all her plans.
21:35 Not to mention how utterly offensive that line is to Oberyn's memory. "He was BUTCHERED." He volonteered to defend an innocent man from an unfair accusation, and to simultaneously to avenge the death of Ellia. And he succeeded. Yes, he got carried away and died. But they both had to know it was a very real possibility before he went in. And he still managed to defeat Gregor! He went out in the blaze of glory! And this is how his lover honors him.
@@void_wyrm I assume you mean Ellaria, and yeah I agree. The idea that revenge is a vicious cycle and needs to be broken is such a strong theme in the books, it's nice that she fully embraces the idea... Shame her show counterpart killed all the Martells so she could pursue a revenge war isn't it? Edit: and also I forgot, "themes are for 8th grade book reports" smh
I'm rereading the books and I came to the moment where Ellaria is like, not to her own daughters (who are practically babies in the book), but Oberyn's other children because she is not the mother of all his children, for the love of the gods give it a rest he's dead lets just move on with our lives and then I think of how the show handled it, sigh
Wait, wasn't Elaria the one who said to the sand snakes in the books "vengeance cannot bring back my oberyn"? That's worse character assassination than her assassination of Doran
Bruh... I never noticed the parallels between "Ramsay, a stranger, saving Theon in S3" and "Brienne and Podrick, strangers, saving Theon and Sansa in S6" and I am SHOOK! You are so right! This was never adressed, he never reacted to this, this would have been such an opportunity! Woah, I am not even half through the video and it's only getting better.
Imagine if the writers just paid a little more attention, just small small things like this would have drastically improved the seasons, even if it ended up where it ended up
@@MagicalnoraThiis makes me think that D&D didn't simply "figure out" Jon's parentage, they found speculation and theory online, realized how likely it could be and went with it. If GRRM was maybe younger he might not have put so much weight on that knowledge. He GoT played and I wouldn't be surprised if he's taking this long to try and incorporate new characters resembling D&D.
Doran Martell is such a strong character in the books. His actions may seem weak at times, but the reader quickly learns he is much more cunning and aware than it seems. That coupled with the fact that he's constantly living with almost unbearable pain makes him one of the toughest characters in the series. And here in the show, we hear "Weak men will never rule Dorne again" and are supposed to believe Doran really was a weak-willed ruler.
He's such an ambiguous character too. Protecting the children of Dorne but putting his own children in danger. Afraid of war but committed to the utter destruction of the Lannisters.
@@conormurphy4328 I wouldn't describe it as "not working at all" but more like he's faced some unexpected events. Even though everything isn't playing out his way, saying he's weak willed is just a lie and an insult to the complexity of his book counterpart
@@sarwatarannya8786 perhaps, I wouldn’t say he’s weak willed, just fairly ineffective in putting any plans in effect to the point that he’s already lost before he’s started
I have to say that Brienne waiting the whole of season 5 for a goddamn candle (Brienne from the books would've stormed the castle on her own by that point - "no chance and no choice", that's her whole thing in the books!) and *then* choosing revenge over Sansa is so extremely out of character, it made me so mad. They wrote Brienne so wrong from the start, portraying her as this battle machine, when in fact she is one of the most sensitive characters in the books and would do anything to keep her oaths and for the people she loves, who she swore her oaths to.
i agree. that dilemma should've been a defining moment that cemented brienne's dedication to her honour and her oaths. for them to deny her that moment, use her to exact murderous revenge, and then feel no remorse about it, is devastating to the character.
@@Glidus Exactly. Especially as Brienne is all "I killed Stannis. Meh." later on. I remember a Brienne from AFFC who hated to kill and used Oathkeeper very rarely. It's like...you wanna tell D&D to decide with which version of Brienne they wanna go with. Her character from season 5 - 8 is all over the place.
Upon trying to re-write Season 7, I tried to solve her arc by having her being punished for her action of killing Stannis. Devos reveals to Jon that Brienne killed Stannis(she revealed it to him at Castle Black remember). It's important for Jon cause he respected Stannis a lot and Jon's father declared Stannis as the One True King. So what she did was treason by killing the King. And so there's a trial at Winterfell. Sansa pleads for Brienne cause she saved her. But then it is revealed that the moment when Sansa was waiting for being saved by lighting the candle was the time she left her post to kill Stannis. Choosing revenge over oaths. So the verdict will be guilty and death(in my story I also had Baelish get a trial but he wins it and after Brienne loses hers, he propose to the court lead by Jon that Brienne needs one more chance and Baelish will send her on a mission of his own design)
Oh, look! It's funny Australian man yelling at bad dragon show. My favourite thing on TH-cam. Edit: He got Princess Shireen, rightful heir apparent to the Iron Throne, to tell people to subscribe to his channel. What a madlad.
22:48 it isn't a plot hole, there is a simple explanation: Dorne has access to the only surviving speedboat. They should have included speedboat sound effects to make it clearer.
The fact that over 2 years later people are still making critical analysis videos of how Game of Thrones fucked up so bad is a testament to just exactly how big of a colossal fuckup the show actually was. It is STILL a hot topic to pick apart.
Glad I’m not the only one who saw the missed potential of a Sansa-Pod relationship. After all that she’d been through, Sansa deserved to have someone in her life who was literally the exact opposite of a psychopathic monster. It would have probably helped stop her from being such a jaded and unlikeable character in later seasons. Plus it would show that Sansa had progressed from her dream of marrying a prince or high lord. And from Pod’s side, he was genuinely the kindest and purest character in the show, and it’s a shame that in the end he was only used as comic relief.
TO FURTHER THE SANPOD AGENDA! Sansa is born in 286 AC, Podrick born that same year or in 287AC - they're the same age, something that [pretty much a princess] Sansa would NEVER have expected from marriage. The only people her own age Sansa has gotten to hang out with, thus far (in GoT), are Jeyne Poole and Margaery. Pod has had Brienne, but she's closer to book!Theon's age and acts as Designated Adult for the entire series. Age aside, there is the! Very! Interesting! "Podrick's from a cadet branch of House Payne, as in ILYN PAYNE, as in THE DUDE WHO EXECUTED NED STARK". Ser Ilyn is on Arya's comfort!hitlist. In the show, Ilyn is depicted as Evil but, in the books, Ilyn is one of Jaime's friends - they served & suffered together under Aerys. Post Jaime's unhanding, he bonds with Ilyn and SER ILYN! SPARS! WITH! JAIME! JAIME TRUSTS ILYN WITH SEEING HIS BAD SWORDING. But, like, Sansa & Pod don't KNOW that but the whole Stark/Payne thing WOULD be decidedly awkward - and they could bond over how Awful living in the Red Keep was, and their respective relationships with The Lannisters. But. Nope. Pod is a walking joke, Sansa's trauma is twisted to be "TORTURED INTO BEING GIRLBOSS, THX PETYR COPING VIA ACTING EMOTIONALLY DEAD MADE ME TOTS BADASS". ):
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@Alexander Kerensky as all lorebuffs know, such men usually do not keep said vows.
Can we all get over the idea of Pod the RodGod? Y'all really think an inexperienced, maybe virgin, boy is going to have something going on that impresses professional sex workers. And it's not just that they had sex with him for free, they would have been paying Petyr Baelish out of their own pockets, because he's not going to forego his share because the women who work for him enjoyed themselves. And they wouldn't risk trying to hide their activities from Baelish, this is the man who has threatened Ros, who was mourning the death of one of the other brothel.employee's babies (murdered as one of Robert Baratheon's bastards) for being unhappy and putting off customers, telling he about someone he let a client kill because she wasn't smiling (and indeed, when Ros starts spying on Baelish for Varys, he sells her to Joffrey for target practice.). I like the fan theory that Baelish tells them to take on Pod for free (and pays out of HIS pocket) so they can share any Tyrion secrets Pod might slip up when mention, it seems to be one of the things D&D "kinda forgot." That would actually be far less stupid than the idea that whores are impressed by someone's literal BDE or who is nice to them (a lot of clients want to believe sex workers really care about them) or who has some sexual prowess (it's not like he'd be the first, but hardly any sex workers are in it because it's fun for them, it's more efficient to get 'em in, get 'em out, quit kickin' about!)
Can’t believe how badly they butchered Stannis’ story, Stephen Dillane beautifully portrayed his stoicism and lack of empathy throughout the series, and to die the way he did was un-just. Parts of season 5 really highlighted the decline in Game of Thrones, at least he’s still rocking about in the books
@@0912sooli and yet IN THE SHOW it was Selyse (his wife) who could give Shireen to the Red woman in the sake of the Lord of Light, but Stannis defended his daughter and even showed empathy towards her. Burning Shireen for Melisandre's tits and promises she even admitted are not always true (oh how could I forget - the snow melted away, definetly was worth it) is just ridiculous and forced (just to kill off Stannis and make Melisandre leave him and go to Castle Black because jOn SnoW dEaD). And I'm not talking about Selyse suddenly feeling for her daughter and committing suicide
@@potatosgrace5941 Honestly Stannis burning Shireen is a horrible but extremely believable step for his character. From the beginning he was a hard man willing to do terrible things for what he saw as the greater good. From having Renly killed to burning idols of the Seven and weirwoods to even burning unbelievers. Stannis was a fanatic, just not a religious fanatic like others. Shireen was always his lifeiine, the one part of his life he loved outside of his ambition. That final sacrifice, while terrible and heartbreaking, is a natural escalation of what he has been willing to do. The real dumb parts are what led to it. Like fucking Ramsay somehow being able to get the better of a skilled snd seasoned commander like Stannis with a few dozen men. Just because they are in the north doesn't make southerners totally incompetent damnit.
@@adamvialpando106 I agree with you that Ramsay being able to outmaneuver Stannis was nonsensical. Stannis was supposed to be one of Westeros' greatest commanders yet did not defend his armies' supplies. The show conveniently does not show us how Ramsay and his men were able to reach and destroy Stannis' supplies. However I disagree that Stannis' burning of his daughter made any sense for his character. It's true that Stannis burnt people but none of them were his daughter whom the show made very clear that he loved dearly. His love for his daughter is what separated him from the villains of the show, the burning scene destroyed that completely. Furthermore his decision made no tactical or strategic sense either. Any commander with half a brain( and Stannis was one of the best commanders in Westeros) would have known that burning one's own daughter and heir would disgust his troops and lead to desertions. Not to mention that she was his heir and there was no guarantee that he would have had any more children to succeed him. Furthermore Selyse was valuable because as his heir he could have married her off to a future military ally. My point is by having him burn his own daughter the producers turned his character into an idiot which made no sense.
He's still rocking about, in theory, because the books never got to this point. It seems *very* likely at this point that if things go different for him in the books (making a *huge* assumption that the next book will ever be written) it will be because of the reaction to the show, which would go a long way towards explaining the five or so years between GRRM failing to turn his manuscript in on the deadline he had committed to and today, where said manuscript still doesn't exist.
I find it hilarious that D&D’s solution for the horrible Dorne plot was to have the worst characters in that plot kill off the best characters in Dorne. Morons.
Plus another horrendous move they did with the Dorne plot was change everything about it. For example TV Ellaria was the exact opposite of her Book version. An Doran Martell was way smarter as his the kind of guy playing the long game too exact revenge. Jesus, they cut out a lot of potentially good content that deals with conspiracies & plots with Dorne alone.
anyone else watch the season 6 pisstakes like, dozens of times at this point? i dont even mind waiting for a new one b/c these are so flippin rewatchable.
To be fair, all Pisstakes and GoT Reviews are super-rewatchable. What with the unique combination of astute criticism, slapstick, memes and written bits. The Pisstakes are also super-cathartic.
Kinda seems like being told to "go on and do your duty" would've worked better as a stannis line to brienne if it reminded her of her actual duty to Sansa like I kinda thought would happen when I first watched the show Especially with the cut away thing as a potential fake out It's so logical that most people thought stannis wasn't dead until they were literally told he was by the show runners between seasons
Would’ve been cool to instead have him survive and help Brienne and have him become this redemption-seeking atoner after the horrid shit he did in the name of taking the throne. I mean, they set him up as basically losing all of his support, thereby shaking him once-stalwart faith in his destiny, and then he dies. But D&D hated Stannis the Mannis, so fuck him. *eyeroll*
If I remember correctly the actor that played Stannis had some beef with the showrunners so I feared Stannis death really was permanent even with the cut away.
I'd like us to take a moment of silence out of respect for the departed Karl Fookin' Tanner. A despicable villain who "lived in high school" so to speak that I would've loved to have seen more of. Although it makes no sense to keep him in the story after the mutiny, logic and reasoning don't seem to be a factor in D&D's method of storytelling so fuck it, should've put him in control of the Iron Fleet lol.
I remember when the Mountain took an entire spear point in the chest cavity, and still had enough fight left in him to grapple Oberon to the ground and crush his head like a water melon filled with blood. That guy is pretty scary though, so maybe he gets a pass.
@@notareptilianiswear.6600 the mountain likely couldn't feel pain given the massive amounts of milk of the poppy in his system. (At least book mountain). Show mountain is just an ass book mountain is constantly suffering in severe pain and that pain causes his violent outbursts. The show essentially makes the mountain 1 dimensional even before he's zombified, he's got more character after.
It was Season 6 where I officially fell out of love with the series. Whenever I hear people say it's their favorite season I want to go out to my local fight club and destroy something beautiful.
I just liked that season because fanservice and because they didnt butchered Jon yet. But after the whole Stannis fiasco and how they killed Sir Barristan and the black fish im legitimately confused about what kind of mental gimnastics i did to like this shitstorm
I remember how badly the Dorne plot hit me especially because I talked about it to my co-workers in a temp job in the summer, and my Boss called me in and I was sure she was gonna scold me for talking about GoT instead of working but instead she wanted me to talk to her about the books because she had also read them 💀 that's the only positive experience I have with the Dorne plot in the show.
In vengeance of house Martell, they kill every Martell. Love it. To protect the citizens of kings Landing from Cerci's tyranny, let's turn them into ashes. Danny always wanted to queen of the ashes
it’s also worth pointing out that when Melisandre removes the necklace here, she’s fine aside from being old, whereas when she does it in season 8, she ages into death and disappears, which feels even worse than her being unaffected by not wearing the necklace in season 4 because back then they hadn’t set up the old reveal, but the moment in season 8 is *literally* a response to that season 6 episode and yet the consequences are completely different. It’s these kinds of continuity errors that are demonstrative of truly uninspired writing, because if you can’t maintain consistency with the most important elements of the plot you clearly aren’t very invested in what you’re writing or haven’t thought about it very much
I just realized that they totally could have gone with the book version of Arya overcoming her blindness through skinchanging. Sure, they never established in the show that any of the Starks besides Bran is a skinchanger. But Bran gained his skinchanger abilities after his fall and being paralyzed, right? Just have the 3-eyed Raven explain in an extra scene that skinchangers often awaken their abilities after a traumatic event such as an injury or disability. Or say that it takes prolonged time in darkness to develop the ability of skinchanging (Bran was in a coma for weeks after all). It would explain Arya's dormant abilities suddenly awakening and would make her a bit more special which might help a bit with the whole killing the Night King bit later on. It‘s a shame they seemingly didn‘t even consider the idea.
@@jaimelannister1797 true, but that's because I actually dropped got halfway through season 6, so before Euron became super relevant and the show went to complete shit. And Ellaria's speech over Gregor Clegane's skull happens to be one of my absolute favorite scenes from the books! That's why the way she's portrayed in the show annoys me /that/ much haha
@@viinaart How do you feel about Robb marrying for love instead of duty and looking like an idiot for it or Theon saying Ned (the man who took him hostage) was like a father to him or Petyr, Roose and Sansa being absolute morons for agreeing for the plot of season 5? Considering these all happend earlier than this mess.
Its the complete mischaracterisation of Jamie for me. Hes the best book character but you’re better of by skipping every single scene hes in after season 3
@@TemariNaraannaschatz robb choosing love over honour wasn't mischaracterisation. It was a very important moment in his arc, and was somewhat what caused his death
@@aemonblackfyre4159 remember to keep your eyes on the plot once you have taken it down. That thing is big, nasty and perfectly happy to crush your skull, even as it dies.
Little known fact but Dorne was quite progressive for women in every aspect imaginable, including footwear, even allowing highborn women to wear something that would only come back into fashion centuries later: high heels.
I, a Dutch Scot, was over the moon at you mentioning Dunfermline and swiftly brought back to earth by how you said Michiel Huisman, en emotional journey akin to watching game of thrones in it’s entirety. Overall, though - the return of the King!
@@michielmanders9766 it's just because, when i earnestly tried my hardest at properly pronouncing his name in another video, a few dutch people still mocked me. so out of spite, i will henceforth be butchering the man's name.
@@Glidus Mocking someone for not knowing how to pronounce our irrelevant language? That sounds like us lol. Just call him Michael Houseman, that's pretty much a direct translation.
i always wished that instead of "do your duty", Stannis would have said "explain how my younger brother could be the true King, you supposedly honorable giant".
Just as Brienne can see plot markers, Jon's corpse clearly had a big ol' exclamation mark to summon all those Loyal Brothers who, being in a shared guild, also saw their guild leader's distress ping earlier & are thus Savvy - Mister Alister's bros, on the other hand, had assumed that Jon's death would result in Sick Loot that would conveniently take his corpse's place.
I finally realized what that scene of Ellaria's throwing her tissue into the wind reminded me of... Gob trying to throw an envelope into the ocean in Arrested Development only to have it keep blowing back at him. Only in that show it was supposed to be funny, not a sad metaphor for the show itself.
I'm so glad you're making this series. Season 6 is so many people's favourite season but it let me down on so many levels. Better than S7 and S8 for sure, but still bad on too many levels. This is the season that made me certain that the ending of the show would be terrible. When my knowledge of the lore of this world is enough for literally every episode to rub me the wrong way at some point, I know the writers are either incapable or can't be bothered to try, and that's not to mention the other issues with it. The scenes I enjoyed the most were actually the ones lifted from the books (funny that), like the siege of Riverrun... although the kingsmoot was a let-down. I can't wait until you get onto Arya's plot this season - the play was the only good bit, the rest was irritatingly nonsensical at every turn.
they fucked up some plotlines like in s5 (s6 is superior to s5) but I still found it really fun, btw ep. 9 and 10 were some of the best in the series for me. They didn't have the quality of writing of first 4 season but it was still really good.
@@MyPrideFlag I can respect the view that season 6 is better than S5. I can understand why, but for me I didn't think so, and with all the problems I had with S6 I did not find it enjoyable overall. The action was much more fun in S6 than S5 but that doesn't do it for me personally, I need more than that. Because so many people think S6 is the best season (and I guess that doesn't include you as you say 1-4 had better quality writing), I decided to write down every issue I have with S6 (as well as things I thought were fair enough or even good as well - I am trying to be balanced!) in a scene by scene bulletpoint fashion, kinda similar to what this video series will hope to achieve I guess haha: so far I've written 4 pages about the first four episodes and it highlights to me just how problematic it is as a season. My biggest complaint, as I said in my original comment, is how much they took liberties with the lore, and the things that don't make sense or are just too coincidental or just for the sake of the plot and make no logical sense that it seems insulting to anyone who puts any thought or love into this world. It's true that in places I'm nit-picking, but in a lot of cases there are fundamental problems with S6 which makes it so much lower quality than even S5 for me because so much of it is contrived and doesn't make any sense. And I'm not being too unfair, the standard I'm holding it to is just equivalent to the previous seasons of this same show (S1-4 specifically because S5 wasn't great as you say). It's true that episode 9 was exceptional in terms of cinematography/choreography etc, great action, but that's not enough. I felt no emotion in that episode because literally everything that happened I had expected since they eluded to the fact the battle would happen, it was so predictable, I felt no tension. I knew Jon would win, I knew he'd survive, I knew Sansa would be fine, I knew the Vale would save the day, I knew Ramsay would lose, I even expected him to die. And there was basically no other story in this episode other than those predictable events. The biggest thing I didn't expect was Wun-Wun dying, but I didn't care all that much, and the fact Ramsay didn't just shoot Jon undermined his death scene because it made it just dumb. A major issue is that the one twist in the plot (i.e. the arrival of the knights of the Vale) was super predictable episodes before the battle, but also that it made absolutely no sense for Sansa not to tell Jon about it! The whole battle was contrived. Also, the pile of bodies was just unrealistic and absurd - I'm aware that the battle was inspired by the Battle of Cannae where the bodies were reported to be "an obstacle on the battlefield", but I am certain it didn't look like three metre high piles like in the Battle of the Bastards, that's just ridiculous and implausible. I will give credit to episode 10 for being the best in the season because it surprised me twice - once for the sept and once for Tommen's death. But as a conclusion to a broken season, I could not come out the other side of it with too many praises, especially with the nonsensical coronations of both Jon and Cersei in episode 10: there is no way whatsoever that Cersei could claim Tommen's throne with no blood-right and as a woman and have absolutely no political repercussions and resistance from her lords, and there is no way Jon Snow would randomly be declared king as a bastard and deserter of the Night's Watch. The entire time in S6 I was completely taken out of this world, trying to account for and justify all the missteps when in reality the truth is the writers just stopped caring about the lore and continuity as much as I did, and that completely devalues the show for me. How can I, just some nerd fan, know and care more than the rich professional writers? Just disappointing imo.
@@sam_c95 I 100% agree with you about there’s no way the other lords would just let Cersei take the throne given that she just committed mass murder. My only question is then who would take the crown now that Tommen is dead? I don’t really see another option
@@TheValk777 Sorry, long reply haha. I am passionate about these asoiaf topics! The TL;DR is we don't actually know who show Tommen's legal heir would be (I wish I had a better answer), but there would certainly be someone out there and it certainly wouldn't be Cersei. . I was basing my argument only on the line of succession legalities and the attitudes of the court towards those values/laws/rules. But yes you're right, it's also true that Cersei committed not just mass murder but also sacrilege, equivalent to destroying the Vatican and killing the Pope, an attack on the gods themselves. Again, an action with no repercussions. It is a valid question though: who is Tommen's heir? In the books Tommen still lives, but Stannis would be his legal heir by blood (obviously assuming Tommen is a Baratheon as the court believes he is), although Stannis' claim would very likely be disputed by the court due to his rebellion against Joffrey/Tommen. But Myrcella is also still alive in the books, and then there is Shireen after both of them so there would be an argument for her claim too. But in the show all of those characters are dead, by S6. Unfortunately, the Baratheon family tree has not been fleshed out enough for us to determine Tommen's legal heir beyond that so it's hard to say, but it's certain that there would be _someone_ out there that carries Baratheon blood if you fully knew and tracked the family tree (get that book Ned was reading in season 1!). As an aside, following the family trees can get quite wild and unexpected results - for example, did you know that when King Aerys II Targaryen ruled, Robert Baratheon was legally the sixth in line to the throne already, even before his rebellion (after Rhaegar, Viserys, Aegon, Rhaenys and Rhaella - Dany wasn't born yet)? In fact, once the Arryn's, Starks and Baratheons had rebelled, the reason they chose Robert to be the next king over Ned or Jon Arryn was _because_ Robert had the better claim to the throne, that it couldn't be as easily disputed by the lords of the court - that's how much the lords care about having a legal heir, conquest and hate for Aerys alone wouldn't have gained as much support as it did combined with his blood claim: Robert has Targaryen blood from his paternal grandmother. During Robert's Rebellion, Aerys, Rhaegar, Aegon, Rhaenys and Rhaella all died, and if Robert had killed Viserys too (and Dany if she was born already), he would have been the legal heir to the Targaryen throne! (This just adds to why he was so bitter that Viserys escaped.) My point with this aside into Targaryen lineage is that we don't know the Baratheon family tree well enough to know who Tommen's heir would be once Stannis, Myrcella and Shireen are dead, but there would certainly be _someone_ alive with Baratheon blood if you trace it back far enough, and it wouldn't be Cersei. On top of that, they have a precedent in Westeros that a female line is not considered over a male line unless there is no other option, and this is partly why there has never been a queen of the Seven Kingdoms, because it's quite unlikely to not have a male line heir (or failing that, a male descended via a female line, which is how Robert became sixth in line to the throne - he's a male via a female line, his Targaryen grandmother). They're pretty sexist in the Seven Kingdoms, it would be hard for Cersei not to have objection to her rule even if she had a strong legal claim (which she absolutely doesn't), it's completely implausible that she could just crown herself like that... and all that is not even to mention how the crowning legally has to be done by the High Septon who she had just blown up, basically declaring war on the Faith! As another example, if you look into how Lord Robert (Robin) Arryn's heir is Ser Harrold Hardyng you can see how there is always an heir somewhere, and how it would never have been Lysa Arryn who was considered Robin's heir because she is not an Arryn by blood like Cersei isn't a Baratheon by blood: Harry is Robin's first cousin once removed.
I just want to point out how bad ass they painted the new Khal to be in one of the season 6 trailers "Millionth of your name, Queen of nothing." With a gruff and intimidating voice, which was clearly altered in post and what we got was an idiot who dies right away.
20:50 Also, good luck getting another Maester from the Citadel, meaning these broads have robbed themselves of all medical care, bookkeeping, communication... I think what happened is that Dipshit&Dogbreath honest to god forgot that this was supposed to be a maester and what that meant. It was just "he's some guy, he's for Doran, he might do... something bad, so it makes sense for them to kill him too!"
of course they did, they belong to the small hat tribe, that's what they do, there's reasons they have been kicked out of over 100 countries through the centuries
@@tsarofshadows1347 think about it, you have surprised pikachu face because you are totally unaware of reality. The Characters of Game of Thrones which control the world through centuries of deception are combinations of the Lannisters, Daenerys and the Boltons. You think this pandemic has been real? The Ultimate "villain" in history which you have been falsely taught is actually Ned Stark, try and guess who I am talking about
I like the subtle difference between "Ser Alliser Thorne" and "Mr AllisTer" haha. To answer Arya's question, my favourite Bionicle has always been Axon. Even though we're looking at Blind Beth, I chose to assume the "small Mercy" line about the Arya scene was no coincidence, and I approve.
@@benl2140 Other than the first and third movies, I never really followed the story. I just learnt the characters' names and abilities and collected the models to play with haha, so I liked Axon just because I thought he looked cool! I had to Google to remind myself who Nuparu was (I would have once known, all that lost knowledge makes me sad), and I never realised he was also the little guy with the punching machine, what a character progression.
@@sam_c95 I was really in to the books and comic books when I was a kid (well, I kind of still am). They're actually pretty good for stories that were, at the end of the day, intended to sell toys (and I'm not just saying that because of nostalgia; there are other things from my childhood which I don't think hold up nearly as well).
The disappearing dogs during Sansa's escape isn't nitpicking, it's a massive oversight on the shows part. I noticed it right away watching the episode live, and I'm surprised it didn't bother more people.
16:53 I mean Catelyn was reciting the oath, one that is often given between sworn swords and their lords...and Sansa was reciting what she could remember of it...and Podrick, being a squire and wannabe sworn sword in his future, knows the pledge. These are all Nobles...they'd know this kind of etiquette or at the very least trained in it. Sansa out of the bunch is the most likely to have forgotten parts of it because she hasn't been trained as a lady since she basically left Winterfell.
Glidus once again saving the day. Absolute maniac. The editing is outrageously good once again, the humor is on point, everything you do gets better and better. So proud to be a fan of Glidus honestly Well done you mad lad
Glidus I've literally watched every video on your channel including both the hours long Best to worst GOT episodes video waiting for Season 6 pisstakes/GOT Review.... so Plz don't ever make me wait this long again I'm already going to die waiting on TWOW.
Idk how people thought this season was so good, literally upon watching this first episode I could immediately tell the writers were going their own way with the plot ugh...
Having Brienne choose Sansa over Stannis would have had a clear and powerful ripple effect that could better almost every related plotline. Firstly, Brienne chooses to save the innocent rather than punish the guilty, she overcomes her need for revenge and instead focuses on doing good. It makes us like her more, she sacrifices her desires for doing the right thing. And so she is there able to rescue Sansa and Theon after they jump. Secondly, Stannis can be captured by the Boltons. In their camp, it would allow some nice meaty scenes between Stannis and Roose or Stannis and Ramsey, and can grant House Bolton leverage over House Lannister. If they kill Stannis, the Lannisters would move on, but if they keep him alive, he will always be a threat, which can make the Lannisters offer more for his head while also creating tension between them (since the creators want to hint towards some kind of Bolton scheme against the Iron Throne). It would also give more reasons for Jon to attack Winterfell, since he saved the Night's Watch and the Wildlings (though, he also killed many Wildlings and much of the Night's Watch didn't like him, causing more tension). Jon could attack in an attempt to save Stannis as well as Rickon. And, after the Battle of the Bastards, all these plot points converge into one very tense situation. The Trial of Stannis. He killed a child, he killed his daughter, he killed Shireen, and he must answer for that. We get to see Davos grapple with that and maybe abandon him, we get to see Brienne grapple with her own desire to see him dead (Sansa would probably want him alive, since he has Storm's End and is a rival claimant to the Iron Throne that she can support, and so Brienne's loyalties are once again tested), and Jon would have to grapple with his own sin of killing a child earlier this season. The outcome could still be Stannis's death and the naming of Jon as the King in the North, but there would not be a political and interpersonal element to it, as the allies of Stannis would not support Jon and relationships may be changed (Brienne and Davos may be able to work out their differences, but Jon and Sansa may not be a bit more at odds, helping set the status quo for the next season), also Jon executing the man who attacked Dragonstone when Dany was born (and indirectly being responsible for her mother's death) could be used to endear Dany to him when she first hears about him. And that's not even mentioning Theon, who could be present this whole time and would also present a character with a history of child-killing. Three men who have killed kids to satisfy their own desires in one way or another, all in the same plotline that explores that very thing. It would be so interesting. And Jon would know Bran was alive, but would also know that two other innocent children were killed, and so there is still tension there. AND THEON KNOWS HOW TO TAKE WINTERFELL, AND THE BOLTONS HAVE RICKON! The plot perfectly sets up the middle of Theon's redemption arc. He rescues Sansa, he fights to save Rickon, and at the end he will die protecting Bran. Theon could use his skills to infiltrate Winterfell and open the gates for them after the battle (and so they expect a siege and Theon to save Rickon, but then Ramsey takes his army outside the castle along with Rickon, so Theon fails, but he becomes instrumental in taking Winterfell, so it's this grey area). There's just so much meat in this potential plotline. Stannis's Trial could also happen alongside Theon's trial, the resolution after the climax. Hell, in the scene where they go to Deepwood Motte before the battle, they could parlay with Yara who turns down their offer of an alliance. They say they have her brother captured but she doesn't care, she thinks he is broken beyond repair, and then she goes off to the Kingsmoot. After the Kingsmoot, she flees and realises it can be nullified since Theon, a serious claimant, was alive but wasn't present, and so she returns and at the trial of Theon she arrives to present an alliance going forward, turning the tides in his trial and saving his life. Victarion or whoever the hell can be the one to go to Meereen and bring Dany back, creating tension between the Jon and Dany camps. It's crazy how the Brienne plotline really just fucks up a bunch of other ones in a butterfly effect of shit. Having Brienne choose Sansa over Stannis just enhances all these different plotlines, but the writers sought instant gratification rather than any kind of long-term plan. It was the writers, not just Brienne, who wanted to have their cake and eat it too.
The thing I didn't get is how did it take Dorne so long to find out that Myrcella was killed? She died literally 10 metres offshore, surely they would have rowed back and told the prince that Ellaria killed her
I imagine the captain being like a strict parent on a trip: "No, I don't care that the princess is dead, we are not turning around, you can have your vengence the next time you see Ellaria."
@@TemariNaraannaschatz They could send boat. Problem is that if they won all these guards. they could kill Jaime Lannister already. By the way, They lost all possible allies by killing former Prince, his young son and Lannister's guest young girl Myrcella. I don't believe how Tyrion settle with his niece's murderers.
I was going to waste hundreds of hours of my life rewatching but instead I'm just watching your videos on the last 3 seasons and its gonna make me so much happier thank you
I'm actually fine with Brienne finding and saving Sansa at the start of this season, that's the kind of contrivance stories like these are built around (although there probably should be a scene of Brienne and Pod hearing the hounds as they ride though the forest and deciding to check it out to make it seem like a little less of a deus ex machina), but it should've been much later in the episode, maybe even only in Episode 2 to heighten the consequences of their actions (that way it also makes much more sense for the hounds to find them in the mean time). Because as it stands Sansa just jumped off a castle wall, paddled through a freezing river and then ran track and field through a snowy forest for what must've been hours and didn't even have hoarse throat to show for it. Brienne finding Sansa as she lays seriously wounded, dying of hypothermia and about to be recaptured by the Boltons, would've made it so much more obvious to her how much she fucked up by going after Stannis first while still keeping the progression largely as is except Brienne now isn't just completely off the hook for abandoning her sworn duty. In fact Brienne getting Sansa to safety while she is injured and being pursued by the Boltons should've been a neat one episode conflict. I suspect that the reason for why this didn't happen was due to the early symptoms of Sansa's transformation into a #girlboss and as such depicting her as vulnerable wasn't in the writer's interest.
Shame they dropped the bit where Melissandre burned Rattleshirt and kept Mance Raydar alive but under glamour. It would have been a good time to reintroduce glamours, he could have been sent to wait for Sansa since having her in Baratheon custody would be extremely helpful in rallying the forces of the North who loathed the Boltons. Of course that would require competence and we can't have that.
This episode totally killed the series for. That having Jon come back to life with absolutely no consequences for either himself or the person who revived him completely broke all the rules of the world. For the entire series, death was clearly established as being a permanent condition. The perfect way to get rid of your enemies. Granted they already broke that rule with Berric, but at least he was only a minor character and he didn't have much effect on the plot. To do that with Jon simply because they didn't want to lose him as a character completely destroyed the rules of the show and there was no hope it would ever recover.
@@facundogonzalez5453 Yeah basically the writers wrote themselves into a corner. They wanted to get Jon out of the Night's Watch, but they couldn't think of any way to do it without killing him and reviving him. Sadly, this wasn't necessary. They already gave him a way out by having Stannis offer to relieve him of his duties (In GOT, a king can release a Night's Watchman from his vows) But they had Jon reject him, probably because they figured Jon is so honorable he would never turn his back on the Night's Watch even if he had a legal way out of it. While this is understandable, I still think it would have made a lot more sense to have Jon accept Stannis' offer. Considering how badly weakened the Night's Watch is after the battle for the wall, it would be perfectly logical for Jon to realize he could do a lot more to aid the Night's Watch as king in the North then he could as an actual Night's Watch member, and simply accept Stannis offer based on that. That would certainly be a lot more reasonable then having Jon die and come back to life. Plus it would have been a lot more interesting to see Jon as King of the North having to work with Allister Thorne as commander of the night's watch even though they both hate each other. It would have made for a much better story.
@@TheStapleGunKid Not so sure. I mean the Books ARE meant for this to happen that way, since Jon dies at the end of Dance With Dragons. But Martin was probably going to write a good.... lets call it "penalty" for Jon. Maybe loosing part of his heroic personality. Or emotions. Or Worse, forget about Arya.
@@facundogonzalez5453 I haven't read the books, so I didn't know that. Still, if it is necessary to get Jon Snow out of the Night's Watch and have him still be alive for the rest of the series, then I think my idea is the best means to accomplish that.
@@TheStapleGunKid So so. Because doing that would actually be a problem. The Night Watch is more ancient than any king. And its laws are more important than the words of a landless and powerless kings. People would probably hate Jon more if he took Stannis words. He is a bastard, a Night Watch's desserter and what not. So going with Stannis offer WAS a bad idea.
My favorite post season 5 GoT moment was... when all my friends realized, that the writing has gone to shit and I was like "Have you not seen Season 6 or 7? The writing has been garbage for years, you just ignored it..." Also: Someone might finally mention the biggest plothole of all time: That Kingslanding should already be burning in Season 7, because Cersei literally sets it on fire at the end of Season 6. And yes, there is no way you control that kind of Wildfire burning in an overcrowded city as a medieval society. so at least half the City burns to the gound.
You know I work all day but when I saw your video I was so excited I went outside and bought some Chocolatine and some milk. Then I came home, sat down on my desk, turned on my computer, and now I start watching your video. You don't realize how much I love your videos sir
I don't get how people can still defend season 6 as one of the better ones. Season 6 was the season where I finally realized that the show was going down the drain for good.
I love everything you said, except the thing about both Catelyn and Sansa responding to Brienne’s oath with what I assumed was just a standard response when a Lord or Lady accepts an oath in Westeros. Sansa probably learned it when she was still in Winterfell, during the lessons with her Septa. Catelyn probably learned it when she was young, too. Podrick likely learned it from Brienne or Tyrion or Bronn. It just really seemed like the standard, well-known Westerosi response when a Lady or Lord accepts an oath. 🤷🏻♀️
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The one thing that bothered me above all other poor writing problems is how Dorn was handled. In the book, the prince was a superior intellect and always one step ahead of everyone. Plus his bodyguard was a major badass that would never be taken by such a weak attack. I would have preferred that they left Dorn out of the show. But I know GRRM was with them when they wrote it in and not there when they changed it all. Probably to allow for the reduced number of seasons that nobody wanted except the two writers.
Spot on with the Brianne thing and theon. You're insanely good at this, keep pumping out the content, im sure these take forever to make but how you don't have way more subs is beyond me, if they're are other series or game series your interested in you should look at trying to do this with more stuff, that being said I think you will have 6 figure subs soon enough, just have to get some more of the asoiaf channels veiwers as they're is obviously overlap, maybe reach out. I guess I dont know a ton about how all that works but awesome video.
It upsets me how obsessed Dorne is with honor and rightful rule in the books, and then the show has the prince die like a pansy and no plots or plans to put Dorne on the throne were even hinted at. But Misella is cute.
i love these videos. that said, i Did always assume caitlyn and brienne's oath was like a standardized one that's always used for knights swearing service to a lord or lady, and it would make sense that a squire/former squire like pod would know it.
The thing about Sansa falling in love with Podrick cracked me up. And then I thought that’s actually quite the grrm thing to happen: Sansa falling in love with the cousin of the man who beheaded her father
This is the third time I've watched your pisstakes, and I just can't understand why you don't have more subs. I'd stan for you any day. Please keep creating. Love from Ireland.
In regards to the vow sansa said to Brienne, no, Catelyn did not make it up on the spot. Those words (place at my hearth, meat and mead at my table) are used in various forms through the whole series, made obvious by the fact pod knows them too
So basically to honor her deceased lover, Ellaria decides to kill her deceased lover's brother and nephew. Oberyn is probably so proud of her.
I just choked and snorted and I'm in pain from laughing. Send help 😂
*smiles in Ramsay*
no
Season 8 Oberyn: You know, I never really cared for my siblings...
@@AurainmakerINoCeNt oR oThErWiSe
Also killing the innocent girl after Oberyn explicitly and proudly told Cersei they would never kill innocent girls in Dorne, unlike the Lannisters…
"Petyr's brain can't work in cold" is my new head canon.
He gets to remain as Azor Ahai in my brain until Winds of Winter releases... so forever :)
@@Thaddius0 same. i really thought that lord baelish was gonna square off against brann the boring. especially since, as glidus points out in other videos, petyr was made aware of brann's maphacks. so, littlefinger could use his own strategy and experience to outwit the guy who literally knows everything. or at least put up a good fight. have some critical piece of info petyr is unaware of be his undoing, or vice versa, be the crux of his success. he couldnt have known said piece of info, yet he acts as if he does, bc he had thought of all the possibilities, etc...
the downward spiral that petyr's character suffered throughout the later half of the series is just unforgiveable. its like if the chicago bulls released michael jordan in 1993. why squander such a resource?
i get it, he plays families against each other. but look, catelyn stark (CAAATTTT) was married to ned AND his brother (i think?) and petyr loved her. THAT DIDNT MEAN HE BECAME A TOTAL NITWIT. no, he built himself, his brothels, and his influence in spite of being spurned. thats what baelish does. he gets rejected, punched, throttled, but then recovers and surges. sansa should have been no different, i mean he didnt put all his chips on the table for catelyn, why would he do it for sansa in a much sketchier situation. and yes, petyr likes sketchy situations, but with jon and brann there, its just too hot for him to try to turn these two sisters against each other, using a means in which he knows a maphacker (that he meets) could totally decimate and expose him. which would and did (in the show) mean death.
he likes to gamble, sure. but he's not jon snow when it comes to his own life. he's protective of his own skin. thats why he left kings landing and secured the vale for himself. marrying sansa to bolton made no sense, i'll totally agree with that. the gambling angle just doesnt cut it for me. either he loves her enough to sacrifice his own selfish desires, or he doesnt. you cant have him throw away the greatest opportunity he will ever have to be with her and mold her to his ambitions, just to have him do EXACTLY THAT, later in winterfell, after sansa hates him. no master manipulator/sociopath would do that. thats literally what a scrub ex would do. an inept simp. which littlefinger wasnt. we saw that much in kings landing, he might not get the girl, but he aims higher, and hits that mark.
they reduced him to a warning to other writers: let characters drive the plot, and not plot drive the characters. especially if your plot directly contradicts what the characters would do.
anyways i love glidus, dude packs so much into every vid i find myself pausing frequently, and to me thats a good thing.
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Which is hilarious since his home is pretty much the the closest the Vale is to the North and is also cold.
He was just not used to the dehydration due to the dry Northern air. He grew up in Riverlands.
Maybe the Harpies initially intended to kill Tyrion, but then they saw how dumb he was after Season 5 so they decided to let him stay with Dany in the hopes of inadvertently ruining all her plans.
And it worked!
I hope this is explored in a spinoff series
@@leonoraekaterina5838 best response
They were the most brilliant characters in the entire show
Nailed It!
I REALLY HATE when the guy yells "It's a bloody woman!" When Brienne rides toward him, like he could tell
yeah pretty stupid
He has a woman detector
@@Qwerty-yp3jq the Boobie Radar
21:35 Not to mention how utterly offensive that line is to Oberyn's memory. "He was BUTCHERED." He volonteered to defend an innocent man from an unfair accusation, and to simultaneously to avenge the death of Ellia. And he succeeded. Yes, he got carried away and died. But they both had to know it was a very real possibility before he went in. And he still managed to defeat Gregor! He went out in the blaze of glory! And this is how his lover honors him.
Remember how great Ellaria was in the fat man's books 😔 her whole speech was amazing
@@void_wyrm I assume you mean Ellaria, and yeah I agree. The idea that revenge is a vicious cycle and needs to be broken is such a strong theme in the books, it's nice that she fully embraces the idea... Shame her show counterpart killed all the Martells so she could pursue a revenge war isn't it?
Edit: and also I forgot, "themes are for 8th grade book reports" smh
No the scene is hear 21:30
At least the books are more consistent.
I'm rereading the books and I came to the moment where Ellaria is like, not to her own daughters (who are practically babies in the book), but Oberyn's other children because she is not the mother of all his children, for the love of the gods give it a rest he's dead lets just move on with our lives and then I think of how the show handled it, sigh
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I once had a Beta Fish that I think had a stroke because would only swim left
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Wait, wasn't Elaria the one who said to the sand snakes in the books "vengeance cannot bring back my oberyn"? That's worse character assassination than her assassination of Doran
Bruh... I never noticed the parallels between "Ramsay, a stranger, saving Theon in S3" and "Brienne and Podrick, strangers, saving Theon and Sansa in S6" and I am SHOOK! You are so right! This was never adressed, he never reacted to this, this would have been such an opportunity! Woah, I am not even half through the video and it's only getting better.
Imagine if the writers just paid a little more attention, just small small things like this would have drastically improved the seasons, even if it ended up where it ended up
And
When his sister came to rescue him he chose not to go with her because he thought it was a trap
@@jamesleiper6399 Wow exactly
@@MagicalnoraThiis makes me think that D&D didn't simply "figure out" Jon's parentage, they found speculation and theory online, realized how likely it could be and went with it. If GRRM was maybe younger he might not have put so much weight on that knowledge. He GoT played and I wouldn't be surprised if he's taking this long to try and incorporate new characters resembling D&D.
Doran Martell is such a strong character in the books. His actions may seem weak at times, but the reader quickly learns he is much more cunning and aware than it seems. That coupled with the fact that he's constantly living with almost unbearable pain makes him one of the toughest characters in the series.
And here in the show, we hear "Weak men will never rule Dorne again" and are supposed to believe Doran really was a weak-willed ruler.
He's such an ambiguous character too.
Protecting the children of Dorne but putting his own children in danger.
Afraid of war but committed to the utter destruction of the Lannisters.
But isn’t all his supposed brilliant scheming basically just not working at all in the books?
Also that line was delivered by the most peace wanting character.
@@conormurphy4328 I wouldn't describe it as "not working at all" but more like he's faced some unexpected events. Even though everything isn't playing out his way, saying he's weak willed is just a lie and an insult to the complexity of his book counterpart
@@sarwatarannya8786 perhaps, I wouldn’t say he’s weak willed, just fairly ineffective in putting any plans in effect to the point that he’s already lost before he’s started
Ellaria Sand:" We did it Patrick! We saved House Martell!"
I needed this more than you know
Please continue doing this series.
Same. Glidus is the hero we asked for
Fuck off checkmark
We needed this more than he knows
@@reidacjrobinson a
I have to say that Brienne waiting the whole of season 5 for a goddamn candle (Brienne from the books would've stormed the castle on her own by that point - "no chance and no choice", that's her whole thing in the books!) and *then* choosing revenge over Sansa is so extremely out of character, it made me so mad. They wrote Brienne so wrong from the start, portraying her as this battle machine, when in fact she is one of the most sensitive characters in the books and would do anything to keep her oaths and for the people she loves, who she swore her oaths to.
i agree. that dilemma should've been a defining moment that cemented brienne's dedication to her honour and her oaths. for them to deny her that moment, use her to exact murderous revenge, and then feel no remorse about it, is devastating to the character.
@@Glidus Exactly. Especially as Brienne is all "I killed Stannis. Meh." later on. I remember a Brienne from AFFC who hated to kill and used Oathkeeper very rarely. It's like...you wanna tell D&D to decide with which version of Brienne they wanna go with. Her character from season 5 - 8 is all over the place.
@@Romy-90 it's almost as though these two asshats of writers don't understand the characters and especially what makes the female characters so good
What you don't realize is there's a scene that got cut for time wherein Brienne swings by Ye Olde MacDonald's just after executing Stannis.
Upon trying to re-write Season 7, I tried to solve her arc by having her being punished for her action of killing Stannis. Devos reveals to Jon that Brienne killed Stannis(she revealed it to him at Castle Black remember). It's important for Jon cause he respected Stannis a lot and Jon's father declared Stannis as the One True King. So what she did was treason by killing the King. And so there's a trial at Winterfell. Sansa pleads for Brienne cause she saved her. But then it is revealed that the moment when Sansa was waiting for being saved by lighting the candle was the time she left her post to kill Stannis. Choosing revenge over oaths. So the verdict will be guilty and death(in my story I also had Baelish get a trial but he wins it and after Brienne loses hers, he propose to the court lead by Jon that Brienne needs one more chance and Baelish will send her on a mission of his own design)
Oh, look!
It's funny Australian man yelling at bad dragon show.
My favourite thing on TH-cam.
Edit: He got Princess Shireen, rightful heir apparent to the Iron Throne, to tell people to subscribe to his channel. What a madlad.
🐙i know, i know, oh oh oh 🦑
I mean, it's probably a Cameo. You pay the person to say something.
@@mechanomics2649 Did the word Cameo on the screen give that away, eh? Nothing gets by you!
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He sounds kiwi to these ears, what say you lord glidus?
I love Arya's Bionicle obsession so much. She is finally relatable to me.
I love bionicles they're dope af
My favorite is the white Inika. Matoro I think
I wish she had a digimon obsession too than me and her could talk for hours on our favorite digimon!
22:48 it isn't a plot hole, there is a simple explanation: Dorne has access to the only surviving speedboat. They should have included speedboat sound effects to make it clearer.
The fact that over 2 years later people are still making critical analysis videos of how Game of Thrones fucked up so bad is a testament to just exactly how big of a colossal fuckup the show actually was. It is STILL a hot topic to pick apart.
Glad I’m not the only one who saw the missed potential of a Sansa-Pod relationship. After all that she’d been through, Sansa deserved to have someone in her life who was literally the exact opposite of a psychopathic monster. It would have probably helped stop her from being such a jaded and unlikeable character in later seasons. Plus it would show that Sansa had progressed from her dream of marrying a prince or high lord. And from Pod’s side, he was genuinely the kindest and purest character in the show, and it’s a shame that in the end he was only used as comic relief.
Nah, Pod the RodGod deserves better than Sansa's lame ass.
TO FURTHER THE SANPOD AGENDA!
Sansa is born in 286 AC, Podrick born that same year or in 287AC - they're the same age, something that [pretty much a princess] Sansa would NEVER have expected from marriage. The only people her own age Sansa has gotten to hang out with, thus far (in GoT), are Jeyne Poole and Margaery. Pod has had Brienne, but she's closer to book!Theon's age and acts as Designated Adult for the entire series.
Age aside, there is the! Very! Interesting! "Podrick's from a cadet branch of House Payne, as in ILYN PAYNE, as in THE DUDE WHO EXECUTED NED STARK". Ser Ilyn is on Arya's comfort!hitlist. In the show, Ilyn is depicted as Evil but, in the books, Ilyn is one of Jaime's friends - they served & suffered together under Aerys. Post Jaime's unhanding, he bonds with Ilyn and SER ILYN! SPARS! WITH! JAIME! JAIME TRUSTS ILYN WITH SEEING HIS BAD SWORDING.
But, like, Sansa & Pod don't KNOW that but the whole Stark/Payne thing WOULD be decidedly awkward - and they could bond over how Awful living in the Red Keep was, and their respective relationships with The Lannisters.
But. Nope. Pod is a walking joke, Sansa's trauma is twisted to be "TORTURED INTO BEING GIRLBOSS, THX PETYR COPING VIA ACTING EMOTIONALLY DEAD MADE ME TOTS BADASS". ):
@Alexander Kerensky as all lorebuffs know, such men usually do not keep said vows.
Can we all get over the idea of Pod the RodGod? Y'all really think an inexperienced, maybe virgin, boy is going to have something going on that impresses professional sex workers. And it's not just that they had sex with him for free, they would have been paying Petyr Baelish out of their own pockets, because he's not going to forego his share because the women who work for him enjoyed themselves.
And they wouldn't risk trying to hide their activities from Baelish, this is the man who has threatened Ros, who was mourning the death of one of the other brothel.employee's babies (murdered as one of Robert Baratheon's bastards) for being unhappy and putting off customers, telling he about someone he let a client kill because she wasn't smiling (and indeed, when Ros starts spying on Baelish for Varys, he sells her to Joffrey for target practice.).
I like the fan theory that Baelish tells them to take on Pod for free (and pays out of HIS pocket) so they can share any Tyrion secrets Pod might slip up when mention, it seems to be one of the things D&D "kinda forgot." That would actually be far less stupid than the idea that whores are impressed by someone's literal BDE or who is nice to them (a lot of clients want to believe sex workers really care about them) or who has some sexual prowess (it's not like he'd be the first, but hardly any sex workers are in it because it's fun for them, it's more efficient to get 'em in, get 'em out, quit kickin' about!)
@@kidlitfanful there's the much more wholesome "bard!Pod" theory, which came up in Glidus's first GoT Theory stream.
Can’t believe how badly they butchered Stannis’ story, Stephen Dillane beautifully portrayed his stoicism and lack of empathy throughout the series, and to die the way he did was un-just. Parts of season 5 really highlighted the decline in Game of Thrones, at least he’s still rocking about in the books
Tbh the whole show he seemed like ambitius prick and then after he killed his own only daughter he deserved it all
@@0912sooli and yet IN THE SHOW it was Selyse (his wife) who could give Shireen to the Red woman in the sake of the Lord of Light, but Stannis defended his daughter and even showed empathy towards her. Burning Shireen for Melisandre's tits and promises she even admitted are not always true (oh how could I forget - the snow melted away, definetly was worth it) is just ridiculous and forced (just to kill off Stannis and make Melisandre leave him and go to Castle Black because jOn SnoW dEaD). And I'm not talking about Selyse suddenly feeling for her daughter and committing suicide
@@potatosgrace5941 Honestly Stannis burning Shireen is a horrible but extremely believable step for his character. From the beginning he was a hard man willing to do terrible things for what he saw as the greater good. From having Renly killed to burning idols of the Seven and weirwoods to even burning unbelievers.
Stannis was a fanatic, just not a religious fanatic like others. Shireen was always his lifeiine, the one part of his life he loved outside of his ambition. That final sacrifice, while terrible and heartbreaking, is a natural escalation of what he has been willing to do.
The real dumb parts are what led to it. Like fucking Ramsay somehow being able to get the better of a skilled snd seasoned commander like Stannis with a few dozen men. Just because they are in the north doesn't make southerners totally incompetent damnit.
@@adamvialpando106 I agree with you that Ramsay being able to outmaneuver Stannis was nonsensical. Stannis was supposed to be one of Westeros' greatest commanders yet did not defend his armies' supplies. The show conveniently does not show us how Ramsay and his men were able to reach and destroy Stannis' supplies.
However I disagree that Stannis' burning of his daughter made any sense for his character. It's true that Stannis burnt people but none of them were his daughter whom the show made very clear that he loved dearly. His love for his daughter is what separated him from the villains of the show, the burning scene destroyed that completely.
Furthermore his decision made no tactical or strategic sense either. Any commander with half a brain( and Stannis was one of the best commanders in Westeros) would have known that burning one's own daughter and heir would disgust his troops and lead to desertions. Not to mention that she was his heir and there was no guarantee that he would have had any more children to succeed him. Furthermore Selyse was valuable because as his heir he could have married her off to a future military ally.
My point is by having him burn his own daughter the producers turned his character into an idiot which made no sense.
He's still rocking about, in theory, because the books never got to this point. It seems *very* likely at this point that if things go different for him in the books (making a *huge* assumption that the next book will ever be written) it will be because of the reaction to the show, which would go a long way towards explaining the five or so years between GRRM failing to turn his manuscript in on the deadline he had committed to and today, where said manuscript still doesn't exist.
I find it hilarious that D&D’s solution for the horrible Dorne plot was to have the worst characters in that plot kill off the best characters in Dorne. Morons.
Plus another horrendous move they did with the Dorne plot was change everything about it. For example TV Ellaria was the exact opposite of her Book version. An Doran Martell was way smarter as his the kind of guy playing the long game too exact revenge. Jesus, they cut out a lot of potentially good content that deals with conspiracies & plots with Dorne alone.
@@silentecho92able it just shows that they are not able to plan long term.
anyone else watch the season 6 pisstakes like, dozens of times at this point?
i dont even mind waiting for a new one b/c these are so flippin rewatchable.
To be fair, all Pisstakes and GoT Reviews are super-rewatchable. What with the unique combination of astute criticism, slapstick, memes and written bits.
The Pisstakes are also super-cathartic.
Yeah. Is there something wrong with us?
yup me
i don’t understand how you keep making better and better content every time but somehow you do!!! amazing video glidus :D
Don’t you mean Lord Glidus
Kinda seems like being told to "go on and do your duty" would've worked better as a stannis line to brienne if it reminded her of her actual duty to Sansa like I kinda thought would happen when I first watched the show
Especially with the cut away thing as a potential fake out
It's so logical that most people thought stannis wasn't dead until they were literally told he was by the show runners between seasons
yes
@@Glidus thanks for doing a pisstake of this season btw, it's the last one I watched before giving up on this show (even to hate watch it)
Would’ve been cool to instead have him survive and help Brienne and have him become this redemption-seeking atoner after the horrid shit he did in the name of taking the throne. I mean, they set him up as basically losing all of his support, thereby shaking him once-stalwart faith in his destiny, and then he dies.
But D&D hated Stannis the Mannis, so fuck him. *eyeroll*
If I remember correctly the actor that played Stannis had some beef with the showrunners so I feared Stannis death really was permanent even with the cut away.
From what I heard, that was the original idea but Stephen Dillane got so fed up with all the bullshit that he left the series
The sand snakes should be deemed as kin slayers for murdering their cousin one of the worst Taboos in all of Westeros but it is just glossed over
never mentioned again
Literally everyone just started murdering their family members, Ramsay (ok he's a psycho but still), Euron, the Snakes, even Jon murdered his aunt.
@@itisiahuman2482 cersei murdered her uncle and cousin
@@Glidus
Twas the kinslaying season right enough.
Hey remember when Jeor Mormont took a knife in a back from Rast during the mutiny at Craster's and still almost choked Rast to death?
Oh well
Thanks for reminding me how much I liked the Old Bear.
I'd like us to take a moment of silence out of respect for the departed Karl Fookin' Tanner. A despicable villain who "lived in high school" so to speak that I would've loved to have seen more of. Although it makes no sense to keep him in the story after the mutiny, logic and reasoning don't seem to be a factor in D&D's method of storytelling so fuck it, should've put him in control of the Iron Fleet lol.
I remember when the Mountain took an entire spear point in the chest cavity, and still had enough fight left in him to grapple Oberon to the ground and crush his head like a water melon filled with blood. That guy is pretty scary though, so maybe he gets a pass.
@@notareptilianiswear.6600 the mountain likely couldn't feel pain given the massive amounts of milk of the poppy in his system. (At least book mountain). Show mountain is just an ass book mountain is constantly suffering in severe pain and that pain causes his violent outbursts. The show essentially makes the mountain 1 dimensional even before he's zombified, he's got more character after.
HAVE YOU SEEN GAME OF THRONES!?
It was Season 6 where I officially fell out of love with the series.
Whenever I hear people say it's their favorite season I want to go out to my local fight club and destroy something beautiful.
I refuse to believe those people exist
The big dumb battle and the Sept explosion aren't even that great
@@Rannos22 Some people really like fantasy battles and CGI, enough to overlook plot, characters and setting.
@@Rannos22 Well why do you think Marvel movies are doing so well?
@@auranewaters9574 Unlike Game of Thrones, Marvel movies actually have coherent plots. Some of them are even legitimately great.
I just liked that season because fanservice and because they didnt butchered Jon yet. But after the whole Stannis fiasco and how they killed Sir Barristan and the black fish im legitimately confused about what kind of mental gimnastics i did to like this shitstorm
The mhysa rant melted my linguist heart, and thanks for book recommendation! So happy to have you back Glidus, great video as always
Season 5 & 6 are totally worthy of a PISSTAKE. Go for it, bro.
I remember how badly the Dorne plot hit me especially because I talked about it to my co-workers in a temp job in the summer, and my Boss called me in and I was sure she was gonna scold me for talking about GoT instead of working but instead she wanted me to talk to her about the books because she had also read them 💀 that's the only positive experience I have with the Dorne plot in the show.
In vengeance of house Martell, they kill every Martell. Love it.
To protect the citizens of kings Landing from Cerci's tyranny, let's turn them into ashes. Danny always wanted to queen of the ashes
#Lemongate confirmed - Dany is Dornish as she too acts idiotically, like her half-sisters.
it’s also worth pointing out that when Melisandre removes the necklace here, she’s fine aside from being old, whereas when she does it in season 8, she ages into death and disappears, which feels even worse than her being unaffected by not wearing the necklace in season 4 because back then they hadn’t set up the old reveal, but the moment in season 8 is *literally* a response to that season 6 episode and yet the consequences are completely different. It’s these kinds of continuity errors that are demonstrative of truly uninspired writing, because if you can’t maintain consistency with the most important elements of the plot you clearly aren’t very invested in what you’re writing or haven’t thought about it very much
I just realized that they totally could have gone with the book version of Arya overcoming her blindness through skinchanging. Sure, they never established in the show that any of the Starks besides Bran is a skinchanger. But Bran gained his skinchanger abilities after his fall and being paralyzed, right? Just have the 3-eyed Raven explain in an extra scene that skinchangers often awaken their abilities after a traumatic event such as an injury or disability. Or say that it takes prolonged time in darkness to develop the ability of skinchanging (Bran was in a coma for weeks after all). It would explain Arya's dormant abilities suddenly awakening and would make her a bit more special which might help a bit with the whole killing the Night King bit later on. It‘s a shame they seemingly didn‘t even consider the idea.
The complete mischaracterisation of Ellaria might just be my least favorite thing about got
Interesting, cause there’s so many more significant characters with just as bad mischaracterization (cough cough Euron cough cough)
@@jaimelannister1797 true, but that's because I actually dropped got halfway through season 6, so before Euron became super relevant and the show went to complete shit. And Ellaria's speech over Gregor Clegane's skull happens to be one of my absolute favorite scenes from the books! That's why the way she's portrayed in the show annoys me /that/ much haha
@@viinaart How do you feel about Robb marrying for love instead of duty and looking like an idiot for it or Theon saying Ned (the man who took him hostage) was like a father to him or Petyr, Roose and Sansa being absolute morons for agreeing for the plot of season 5? Considering these all happend earlier than this mess.
Its the complete mischaracterisation of Jamie for me. Hes the best book character but you’re better of by skipping every single scene hes in after season 3
@@TemariNaraannaschatz robb choosing love over honour wasn't mischaracterisation. It was a very important moment in his arc, and was somewhat what caused his death
Imagine how annihilated Davos would be that Stannis and Shireen were both dead, like actually
The worst crime of GoT was Stanis’s character assassination
Yeah season 5 was absolute poison
2022 Season 5 Pisstake
You raped them you murderer them you killed the plotlines!
@@aemonblackfyre4159 remember to keep your eyes on the plot once you have taken it down. That thing is big, nasty and perfectly happy to crush your skull, even as it dies.
@@JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL Season 8 was this very thing happening all while confirming that it did, in fact, rape them, murder them, and killed the plotlines.
Tyene... wasn't even tall enough to stab Areo Hotah in the neck. Yet he died in a second.
You can one-shot any character of peripheral or lower level.
Little known fact but Dorne was quite progressive for women in every aspect imaginable, including footwear, even allowing highborn women to wear something that would only come back into fashion centuries later: high heels.
She’s a level 10 Assassin Rogue. Her surprise attacks deal critical hits.
She had the hornet ring
I, a Dutch Scot, was over the moon at you mentioning Dunfermline and swiftly brought back to earth by how you said Michiel Huisman, en emotional journey akin to watching game of thrones in it’s entirety. Overall, though - the return of the King!
As a Michiel myself, I am beyond offended and will be writing a lengthy Twitter post to express my disapproval.
@@michielmanders9766 it's just because, when i earnestly tried my hardest at properly pronouncing his name in another video, a few dutch people still mocked me. so out of spite, i will henceforth be butchering the man's name.
@@Glidus Mocking someone for not knowing how to pronounce our irrelevant language? That sounds like us lol. Just call him Michael Houseman, that's pretty much a direct translation.
mhysa means mother in valyrian...
@@s.muller7645 Thanks for the trivia but nobody here was talking about the word 'Mhysa'.
Good day Lord Glidus,
Terrific video once again.
Yours sincerely,
Lord Aglahir
i always wished that instead of "do your duty", Stannis would have said "explain how my younger brother could be the true King, you supposedly honorable giant".
"he was nice to me one time :'("
I would have preferred "bend the knee or I'll destroy you", but this is much funnier!
I mean she did swear oath's to protect him when she joined his psudo-kingsguard.
Seeing Jon laying on the ground made me giggle. It was like watching a high-school play.
Just as Brienne can see plot markers, Jon's corpse clearly had a big ol' exclamation mark to summon all those Loyal Brothers who, being in a shared guild, also saw their guild leader's distress ping earlier & are thus Savvy - Mister Alister's bros, on the other hand, had assumed that Jon's death would result in Sick Loot that would conveniently take his corpse's place.
I finally realized what that scene of Ellaria's throwing her tissue into the wind reminded me of... Gob trying to throw an envelope into the ocean in Arrested Development only to have it keep blowing back at him. Only in that show it was supposed to be funny, not a sad metaphor for the show itself.
The "i did" clip gets me every time, something about the way he says it, his voice or something is just too good
I'm so glad you're making this series. Season 6 is so many people's favourite season but it let me down on so many levels. Better than S7 and S8 for sure, but still bad on too many levels. This is the season that made me certain that the ending of the show would be terrible. When my knowledge of the lore of this world is enough for literally every episode to rub me the wrong way at some point, I know the writers are either incapable or can't be bothered to try, and that's not to mention the other issues with it. The scenes I enjoyed the most were actually the ones lifted from the books (funny that), like the siege of Riverrun... although the kingsmoot was a let-down. I can't wait until you get onto Arya's plot this season - the play was the only good bit, the rest was irritatingly nonsensical at every turn.
they fucked up some plotlines like in s5 (s6 is superior to s5) but I still found it really fun, btw ep. 9 and 10 were some of the best in the series for me.
They didn't have the quality of writing of first 4 season but it was still really good.
@@MyPrideFlag I can respect the view that season 6 is better than S5. I can understand why, but for me I didn't think so, and with all the problems I had with S6 I did not find it enjoyable overall.
The action was much more fun in S6 than S5 but that doesn't do it for me personally, I need more than that.
Because so many people think S6 is the best season (and I guess that doesn't include you as you say 1-4 had better quality writing), I decided to write down every issue I have with S6 (as well as things I thought were fair enough or even good as well - I am trying to be balanced!) in a scene by scene bulletpoint fashion, kinda similar to what this video series will hope to achieve I guess haha: so far I've written 4 pages about the first four episodes and it highlights to me just how problematic it is as a season. My biggest complaint, as I said in my original comment, is how much they took liberties with the lore, and the things that don't make sense or are just too coincidental or just for the sake of the plot and make no logical sense that it seems insulting to anyone who puts any thought or love into this world. It's true that in places I'm nit-picking, but in a lot of cases there are fundamental problems with S6 which makes it so much lower quality than even S5 for me because so much of it is contrived and doesn't make any sense. And I'm not being too unfair, the standard I'm holding it to is just equivalent to the previous seasons of this same show (S1-4 specifically because S5 wasn't great as you say).
It's true that episode 9 was exceptional in terms of cinematography/choreography etc, great action, but that's not enough. I felt no emotion in that episode because literally everything that happened I had expected since they eluded to the fact the battle would happen, it was so predictable, I felt no tension. I knew Jon would win, I knew he'd survive, I knew Sansa would be fine, I knew the Vale would save the day, I knew Ramsay would lose, I even expected him to die. And there was basically no other story in this episode other than those predictable events. The biggest thing I didn't expect was Wun-Wun dying, but I didn't care all that much, and the fact Ramsay didn't just shoot Jon undermined his death scene because it made it just dumb. A major issue is that the one twist in the plot (i.e. the arrival of the knights of the Vale) was super predictable episodes before the battle, but also that it made absolutely no sense for Sansa not to tell Jon about it! The whole battle was contrived. Also, the pile of bodies was just unrealistic and absurd - I'm aware that the battle was inspired by the Battle of Cannae where the bodies were reported to be "an obstacle on the battlefield", but I am certain it didn't look like three metre high piles like in the Battle of the Bastards, that's just ridiculous and implausible.
I will give credit to episode 10 for being the best in the season because it surprised me twice - once for the sept and once for Tommen's death. But as a conclusion to a broken season, I could not come out the other side of it with too many praises, especially with the nonsensical coronations of both Jon and Cersei in episode 10: there is no way whatsoever that Cersei could claim Tommen's throne with no blood-right and as a woman and have absolutely no political repercussions and resistance from her lords, and there is no way Jon Snow would randomly be declared king as a bastard and deserter of the Night's Watch. The entire time in S6 I was completely taken out of this world, trying to account for and justify all the missteps when in reality the truth is the writers just stopped caring about the lore and continuity as much as I did, and that completely devalues the show for me. How can I, just some nerd fan, know and care more than the rich professional writers? Just disappointing imo.
@@sam_c95 I 100% agree with you about there’s no way the other lords would just let Cersei take the throne given that she just committed mass murder. My only question is then who would take the crown now that Tommen is dead? I don’t really see another option
@@TheValk777 Sorry, long reply haha. I am passionate about these asoiaf topics!
The TL;DR is we don't actually know who show Tommen's legal heir would be (I wish I had a better answer), but there would certainly be someone out there and it certainly wouldn't be Cersei.
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I was basing my argument only on the line of succession legalities and the attitudes of the court towards those values/laws/rules. But yes you're right, it's also true that Cersei committed not just mass murder but also sacrilege, equivalent to destroying the Vatican and killing the Pope, an attack on the gods themselves. Again, an action with no repercussions.
It is a valid question though: who is Tommen's heir? In the books Tommen still lives, but Stannis would be his legal heir by blood (obviously assuming Tommen is a Baratheon as the court believes he is), although Stannis' claim would very likely be disputed by the court due to his rebellion against Joffrey/Tommen. But Myrcella is also still alive in the books, and then there is Shireen after both of them so there would be an argument for her claim too.
But in the show all of those characters are dead, by S6. Unfortunately, the Baratheon family tree has not been fleshed out enough for us to determine Tommen's legal heir beyond that so it's hard to say, but it's certain that there would be _someone_ out there that carries Baratheon blood if you fully knew and tracked the family tree (get that book Ned was reading in season 1!).
As an aside, following the family trees can get quite wild and unexpected results - for example, did you know that when King Aerys II Targaryen ruled, Robert Baratheon was legally the sixth in line to the throne already, even before his rebellion (after Rhaegar, Viserys, Aegon, Rhaenys and Rhaella - Dany wasn't born yet)? In fact, once the Arryn's, Starks and Baratheons had rebelled, the reason they chose Robert to be the next king over Ned or Jon Arryn was _because_ Robert had the better claim to the throne, that it couldn't be as easily disputed by the lords of the court - that's how much the lords care about having a legal heir, conquest and hate for Aerys alone wouldn't have gained as much support as it did combined with his blood claim: Robert has Targaryen blood from his paternal grandmother. During Robert's Rebellion, Aerys, Rhaegar, Aegon, Rhaenys and Rhaella all died, and if Robert had killed Viserys too (and Dany if she was born already), he would have been the legal heir to the Targaryen throne! (This just adds to why he was so bitter that Viserys escaped.)
My point with this aside into Targaryen lineage is that we don't know the Baratheon family tree well enough to know who Tommen's heir would be once Stannis, Myrcella and Shireen are dead, but there would certainly be _someone_ alive with Baratheon blood if you trace it back far enough, and it wouldn't be Cersei.
On top of that, they have a precedent in Westeros that a female line is not considered over a male line unless there is no other option, and this is partly why there has never been a queen of the Seven Kingdoms, because it's quite unlikely to not have a male line heir (or failing that, a male descended via a female line, which is how Robert became sixth in line to the throne - he's a male via a female line, his Targaryen grandmother). They're pretty sexist in the Seven Kingdoms, it would be hard for Cersei not to have objection to her rule even if she had a strong legal claim (which she absolutely doesn't), it's completely implausible that she could just crown herself like that... and all that is not even to mention how the crowning legally has to be done by the High Septon who she had just blown up, basically declaring war on the Faith!
As another example, if you look into how Lord Robert (Robin) Arryn's heir is Ser Harrold Hardyng you can see how there is always an heir somewhere, and how it would never have been Lysa Arryn who was considered Robin's heir because she is not an Arryn by blood like Cersei isn't a Baratheon by blood: Harry is Robin's first cousin once removed.
I think season six probably has some the best moments of the series, but start to finish; I’ll concede, it isn’t the best season.
I just want to point out how bad ass they painted the new Khal to be in one of the season 6 trailers "Millionth of your name, Queen of nothing." With a gruff and intimidating voice, which was clearly altered in post and what we got was an idiot who dies right away.
Pretty much everything after season 4 was a fall from grace. Those early seasons were some of the best television ever.
“Nitpicks are real and they do matter. You don’t want nits do you? If left unattended, they’re going to hatch into lice. StoryLice!!” … That was EPIC.
What you don’t realize is that just out of frame of the sand snake dock shot, there’s Ellaria’s jet ski which she graciously lent to Barb and Catwoman
20:50 Also, good luck getting another Maester from the Citadel, meaning these broads have robbed themselves of all medical care, bookkeeping, communication... I think what happened is that Dipshit&Dogbreath honest to god forgot that this was supposed to be a maester and what that meant. It was just "he's some guy, he's for Doran, he might do... something bad, so it makes sense for them to kill him too!"
“Little deer overcooked” made me laugh much more than it should have XD
I see you already got your likes. Now where's this form? I really want to talk about my "Dan and Dave ruined the series on purpose" theory.
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of course they did, they belong to the small hat tribe, that's what they do, there's reasons they have been kicked out of over 100 countries through the centuries
@@smallhatshatethetruth7933 dude, what the fuck
@@smallhatshatethetruth7933 you aren't smart.
@@tsarofshadows1347 think about it, you have surprised pikachu face because you are totally unaware of reality. The Characters of Game of Thrones which control the world through centuries of deception are combinations of the Lannisters, Daenerys and the Boltons. You think this pandemic has been real? The Ultimate "villain" in history which you have been falsely taught is actually Ned Stark, try and guess who I am talking about
"weak men will never rule dorne again"
*cut to season 8*
I like the subtle difference between "Ser Alliser Thorne" and "Mr AllisTer" haha.
To answer Arya's question, my favourite Bionicle has always been Axon.
Even though we're looking at Blind Beth, I chose to assume the "small Mercy" line about the Arya scene was no coincidence, and I approve.
Axon, I can respect that. My favourite is Nuparu.
@@benl2140 Other than the first and third movies, I never really followed the story. I just learnt the characters' names and abilities and collected the models to play with haha, so I liked Axon just because I thought he looked cool! I had to Google to remind myself who Nuparu was (I would have once known, all that lost knowledge makes me sad), and I never realised he was also the little guy with the punching machine, what a character progression.
@@sam_c95 I was really in to the books and comic books when I was a kid (well, I kind of still am). They're actually pretty good for stories that were, at the end of the day, intended to sell toys (and I'm not just saying that because of nostalgia; there are other things from my childhood which I don't think hold up nearly as well).
I’ve been watching the past pisstakes on loop when I do my homework. I love that I’ve got some new ones now
The disappearing dogs during Sansa's escape isn't nitpicking, it's a massive oversight on the shows part. I noticed it right away watching the episode live, and I'm surprised it didn't bother more people.
16:53 I mean Catelyn was reciting the oath, one that is often given between sworn swords and their lords...and Sansa was reciting what she could remember of it...and Podrick, being a squire and wannabe sworn sword in his future, knows the pledge. These are all Nobles...they'd know this kind of etiquette or at the very least trained in it. Sansa out of the bunch is the most likely to have forgotten parts of it because she hasn't been trained as a lady since she basically left Winterfell.
Glidus once again saving the day. Absolute maniac. The editing is outrageously good once again, the humor is on point, everything you do gets better and better.
So proud to be a fan of Glidus honestly
Well done you mad lad
These videos have one of the highest replaying value. I often listen to them when I cook
Glidus I've literally watched every video on your channel including both the hours long Best to worst GOT episodes video waiting for Season 6 pisstakes/GOT Review.... so Plz don't ever make me wait this long again I'm already going to die waiting on TWOW.
See you in 6 months.
Idk how people thought this season was so good, literally upon watching this first episode I could immediately tell the writers were going their own way with the plot ugh...
Having Brienne choose Sansa over Stannis would have had a clear and powerful ripple effect that could better almost every related plotline.
Firstly, Brienne chooses to save the innocent rather than punish the guilty, she overcomes her need for revenge and instead focuses on doing good. It makes us like her more, she sacrifices her desires for doing the right thing. And so she is there able to rescue Sansa and Theon after they jump.
Secondly, Stannis can be captured by the Boltons. In their camp, it would allow some nice meaty scenes between Stannis and Roose or Stannis and Ramsey, and can grant House Bolton leverage over House Lannister. If they kill Stannis, the Lannisters would move on, but if they keep him alive, he will always be a threat, which can make the Lannisters offer more for his head while also creating tension between them (since the creators want to hint towards some kind of Bolton scheme against the Iron Throne). It would also give more reasons for Jon to attack Winterfell, since he saved the Night's Watch and the Wildlings (though, he also killed many Wildlings and much of the Night's Watch didn't like him, causing more tension). Jon could attack in an attempt to save Stannis as well as Rickon.
And, after the Battle of the Bastards, all these plot points converge into one very tense situation. The Trial of Stannis. He killed a child, he killed his daughter, he killed Shireen, and he must answer for that. We get to see Davos grapple with that and maybe abandon him, we get to see Brienne grapple with her own desire to see him dead (Sansa would probably want him alive, since he has Storm's End and is a rival claimant to the Iron Throne that she can support, and so Brienne's loyalties are once again tested), and Jon would have to grapple with his own sin of killing a child earlier this season. The outcome could still be Stannis's death and the naming of Jon as the King in the North, but there would not be a political and interpersonal element to it, as the allies of Stannis would not support Jon and relationships may be changed (Brienne and Davos may be able to work out their differences, but Jon and Sansa may not be a bit more at odds, helping set the status quo for the next season), also Jon executing the man who attacked Dragonstone when Dany was born (and indirectly being responsible for her mother's death) could be used to endear Dany to him when she first hears about him.
And that's not even mentioning Theon, who could be present this whole time and would also present a character with a history of child-killing. Three men who have killed kids to satisfy their own desires in one way or another, all in the same plotline that explores that very thing. It would be so interesting. And Jon would know Bran was alive, but would also know that two other innocent children were killed, and so there is still tension there. AND THEON KNOWS HOW TO TAKE WINTERFELL, AND THE BOLTONS HAVE RICKON! The plot perfectly sets up the middle of Theon's redemption arc. He rescues Sansa, he fights to save Rickon, and at the end he will die protecting Bran. Theon could use his skills to infiltrate Winterfell and open the gates for them after the battle (and so they expect a siege and Theon to save Rickon, but then Ramsey takes his army outside the castle along with Rickon, so Theon fails, but he becomes instrumental in taking Winterfell, so it's this grey area). There's just so much meat in this potential plotline. Stannis's Trial could also happen alongside Theon's trial, the resolution after the climax.
Hell, in the scene where they go to Deepwood Motte before the battle, they could parlay with Yara who turns down their offer of an alliance. They say they have her brother captured but she doesn't care, she thinks he is broken beyond repair, and then she goes off to the Kingsmoot. After the Kingsmoot, she flees and realises it can be nullified since Theon, a serious claimant, was alive but wasn't present, and so she returns and at the trial of Theon she arrives to present an alliance going forward, turning the tides in his trial and saving his life. Victarion or whoever the hell can be the one to go to Meereen and bring Dany back, creating tension between the Jon and Dany camps.
It's crazy how the Brienne plotline really just fucks up a bunch of other ones in a butterfly effect of shit.
Having Brienne choose Sansa over Stannis just enhances all these different plotlines, but the writers sought instant gratification rather than any kind of long-term plan. It was the writers, not just Brienne, who wanted to have their cake and eat it too.
"a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one"
- me whenever a glidus vid drops
2 minutes in and our boy Glidus is straight up spitting hot fire in such quantities that he burned down King's Landing a second time
The thing I didn't get is how did it take Dorne so long to find out that Myrcella was killed?
She died literally 10 metres offshore, surely they would have rowed back and told the prince that Ellaria killed her
I imagine the captain being like a strict parent on a trip: "No, I don't care that the princess is dead, we are not turning around, you can have your vengence the next time you see Ellaria."
@@TemariNaraannaschatz They could send boat. Problem is that if they won all these guards. they could kill Jaime Lannister already. By the way, They lost all possible allies by killing former Prince, his young son and Lannister's guest young girl Myrcella. I don't believe how Tyrion settle with his niece's murderers.
@@Asterix958 It was a joke.
But I think we agree that Dorne in the show was a complete mess.
Oh boy, here i go, rewatching all pisstakes again
These poems get better and better omfg. I'm pretty obsessed with the rhyme patterns.
More invested in your relationship with Straw Man than I ever was with Jon's with Dany. Keep love alive
I was going to waste hundreds of hours of my life rewatching but instead I'm just watching your videos on the last 3 seasons and its gonna make me so much happier thank you
I'm actually fine with Brienne finding and saving Sansa at the start of this season, that's the kind of contrivance stories like these are built around (although there probably should be a scene of Brienne and Pod hearing the hounds as they ride though the forest and deciding to check it out to make it seem like a little less of a deus ex machina), but it should've been much later in the episode, maybe even only in Episode 2 to heighten the consequences of their actions (that way it also makes much more sense for the hounds to find them in the mean time).
Because as it stands Sansa just jumped off a castle wall, paddled through a freezing river and then ran track and field through a snowy forest for what must've been hours and didn't even have hoarse throat to show for it.
Brienne finding Sansa as she lays seriously wounded, dying of hypothermia and about to be recaptured by the Boltons, would've made it so much more obvious to her how much she fucked up by going after Stannis first while still keeping the progression largely as is except Brienne now isn't just completely off the hook for abandoning her sworn duty. In fact Brienne getting Sansa to safety while she is injured and being pursued by the Boltons should've been a neat one episode conflict.
I suspect that the reason for why this didn't happen was due to the early symptoms of Sansa's transformation into a #girlboss and as such depicting her as vulnerable wasn't in the writer's interest.
Shame they dropped the bit where Melissandre burned Rattleshirt and kept Mance Raydar alive but under glamour. It would have been a good time to reintroduce glamours, he could have been sent to wait for Sansa since having her in Baratheon custody would be extremely helpful in rallying the forces of the North who loathed the Boltons.
Of course that would require competence and we can't have that.
Hah, that last line describes so many writers that it's sad and hilarious
This episode totally killed the series for. That having Jon come back to life with absolutely no consequences for either himself or the person who revived him completely broke all the rules of the world. For the entire series, death was clearly established as being a permanent condition. The perfect way to get rid of your enemies. Granted they already broke that rule with Berric, but at least he was only a minor character and he didn't have much effect on the plot. To do that with Jon simply because they didn't want to lose him as a character completely destroyed the rules of the show and there was no hope it would ever recover.
You are wrong. There were consequences. Jon lost his vocabulary. He can only say "You are my queen" :P Joking, you are right.
@@facundogonzalez5453 Yeah basically the writers wrote themselves into a corner. They wanted to get Jon out of the Night's Watch, but they couldn't think of any way to do it without killing him and reviving him. Sadly, this wasn't necessary. They already gave him a way out by having Stannis offer to relieve him of his duties (In GOT, a king can release a Night's Watchman from his vows) But they had Jon reject him, probably because they figured Jon is so honorable he would never turn his back on the Night's Watch even if he had a legal way out of it.
While this is understandable, I still think it would have made a lot more sense to have Jon accept Stannis' offer. Considering how badly weakened the Night's Watch is after the battle for the wall, it would be perfectly logical for Jon to realize he could do a lot more to aid the Night's Watch as king in the North then he could as an actual Night's Watch member, and simply accept Stannis offer based on that. That would certainly be a lot more reasonable then having Jon die and come back to life. Plus it would have been a lot more interesting to see Jon as King of the North having to work with Allister Thorne as commander of the night's watch even though they both hate each other. It would have made for a much better story.
@@TheStapleGunKid Not so sure. I mean the Books ARE meant for this to happen that way, since Jon dies at the end of Dance With Dragons. But Martin was probably going to write a good.... lets call it "penalty" for Jon. Maybe loosing part of his heroic personality. Or emotions. Or Worse, forget about Arya.
@@facundogonzalez5453 I haven't read the books, so I didn't know that. Still, if it is necessary to get Jon Snow out of the Night's Watch and have him still be alive for the rest of the series, then I think my idea is the best means to accomplish that.
@@TheStapleGunKid So so. Because doing that would actually be a problem. The Night Watch is more ancient than any king. And its laws are more important than the words of a landless and powerless kings. People would probably hate Jon more if he took Stannis words. He is a bastard, a Night Watch's desserter and what not. So going with Stannis offer WAS a bad idea.
Finally... he has returned to glory.
My favorite post season 5 GoT moment was... when all my friends realized, that the writing has gone to shit and I was like "Have you not seen Season 6 or 7? The writing has been garbage for years, you just ignored it..."
Also: Someone might finally mention the biggest plothole of all time: That Kingslanding should already be burning in Season 7, because Cersei literally sets it on fire at the end of Season 6. And yes, there is no way you control that kind of Wildfire burning in an overcrowded city as a medieval society. so at least half the City burns to the gound.
One minute in and I’m smiling constantly, you’re a f%cking genius
You know I work all day but when I saw your video I was so excited I went outside and bought some Chocolatine and some milk. Then I came home, sat down on my desk, turned on my computer, and now I start watching your video. You don't realize how much I love your videos sir
I don't get how people can still defend season 6 as one of the better ones. Season 6 was the season where I finally realized that the show was going down the drain for good.
It's been a year since you posted this Glidus, and I've watched it several times, and STILL, I LOVE listening to your review Poems! You are the BEST!
When we needed him most... He returned :)
Ok, 99% of the time I skip sponsored ads, but your segway earned my full viewing.
I love everything you said, except the thing about both Catelyn and Sansa responding to Brienne’s oath with what I assumed was just a standard response when a Lord or Lady accepts an oath in Westeros.
Sansa probably learned it when she was still in Winterfell, during the lessons with her Septa. Catelyn probably learned it when she was young, too. Podrick likely learned it from Brienne or Tyrion or Bronn.
It just really seemed like the standard, well-known Westerosi response when a Lady or Lord accepts an oath. 🤷🏻♀️
i had a pizza hut ad that ended with "no one out pizzas the hut" and it cut strait back to "i did"
haven't watched this yet but already know it's gonna be a classic. thanks Glimbus.
Mate, i just need you to know that your piss takes have helped bring peace to me and got me out of my own head on countless occasions and i cannot thank you enough for that. love you my guy!
That introductory poem was better written than the last 3 seasons of GoT
The one thing that bothered me above all other poor writing problems is how Dorn was handled. In the book, the prince was a superior intellect and always one step ahead of everyone. Plus his bodyguard was a major badass that would never be taken by such a weak attack. I would have preferred that they left Dorn out of the show. But I know GRRM was with them when they wrote it in and not there when they changed it all. Probably to allow for the reduced number of seasons that nobody wanted except the two writers.
I cried about Tyristans death. He had a beautiful name...
Have a nice Day
Yours sincerely Tristan
When the world needed him most, he returned!
Spot on with the Brianne thing and theon. You're insanely good at this, keep pumping out the content, im sure these take forever to make but how you don't have way more subs is beyond me, if they're are other series or game series your interested in you should look at trying to do this with more stuff, that being said I think you will have 6 figure subs soon enough, just have to get some more of the asoiaf channels veiwers as they're is obviously overlap, maybe reach out. I guess I dont know a ton about how all that works but awesome video.
In his ranking of every GOT episode, it was a brilliant idea to have some episodes discussed by other ASOIAF TH-camrs
He could've put in like 5 more Aliser "I DID" jokes and I would've laughed literally every time
19:10 Dude's got a wheelchair. Tell me again why Bran's a genius for copying a wheelchair by browsing the internet for a Targaryen invention?
the intro to this video is still one of the best written pieces of media i've ever seen in my life
It upsets me how obsessed Dorne is with honor and rightful rule in the books, and then the show has the prince die like a pansy and no plots or plans to put Dorne on the throne were even hinted at. But Misella is cute.
i love these videos. that said, i Did always assume caitlyn and brienne's oath was like a standardized one that's always used for knights swearing service to a lord or lady, and it would make sense that a squire/former squire like pod would know it.
The thing about Sansa falling in love with Podrick cracked me up. And then I thought that’s actually quite the grrm thing to happen: Sansa falling in love with the cousin of the man who beheaded her father
This is the third time I've watched your pisstakes, and I just can't understand why you don't have more subs. I'd stan for you any day. Please keep creating. Love from Ireland.
I love how the editing and rhyming just gets more and more insane as the episodes continue xD
I'm so glad someone is still talking abt Game of Thrones even after so long
I can’t believe I never noticed they called Sunspear Dorne in the opening. What the fuck.
In regards to the vow sansa said to Brienne, no, Catelyn did not make it up on the spot. Those words (place at my hearth, meat and mead at my table) are used in various forms through the whole series, made obvious by the fact pod knows them too
A new Glidus video? Didn't know today was both my birthday and Christmas.
Theory: The children of the forest are reference to the Mi-Go in The whisperer in darkness by HP Lovecraft and the 3 eyed crow might be Nyarlothetep
Years after the episode aired, 2 years after this video dropped, and on my second watching I am just now learning that Dr Bashir plays Doran Martell
Actually the ginger in the room with Jon's corpse is Brian the ginger from season 5, he's a well known character.