Mao should have won. They did everything possible to deflate her score through harsh tech calls like the negative GOE and full downgrades on jumps at a time when the triple axel was already undervalued, while ignoring the spiral mistake in Miki Ando's program and the ur on her back end triple loop. This set the stage for Mao's perpetual underscoring.
Gente fiquei arrepiada Como essa menina patina E eletrizante Pena que já se aposentou Mas estou sempre vendo os grandes feitos que essa atleta deixou marcado Parabéns ! MAO !
I love this performance, well-choreographed with good musical sense of rythm. I like 1:54 spin sequence with quick-slow-quick movement! Very comfortable to look. :)
Hye Kang, Her choreography was exceptional. She has enormous musical potentials. You never know what Mao did when she's not skating on the ice. I imagined her to be a ballet dancer in her other life. She's not just some figure skater doing a typical lutz jump.
lol. it's not two foot landing. you can check it in other video such as ESPN. very clean and clear. in this video it's no ice flies and well fluid movement.
This was the first time I saw Mao skate and it was the best performance I had ever seen with an amazing combination of sophisticated and intricate beauty, prima ballerina flexibility, elegance and lightness with an underlying power in the great skating skills and the triple axel. In my opinion, Mao won this competition especially since she was scored more harshly than Miki was. First of all, the triple axel was not a true two foot landing because the flow of the skate did not stop and it was not visible by most people in real time, but even with the deflated scoring of the triple axel Mao should have won. First, the triple axel here was too undervalued at only 7.5 points. If it were what it is now, 8.5 points, Mao would have won. Miki skated well overall. But in the LP, she had a ur on her backend triple lutz / triple loop wth a wobble and hook on the landing and she bent over quite a bit to hold on. Yet, the combination received +1.1 GOE and full base value. The proper ur call which were all downgrades at that time I believe would have given Mao the victory by at least 4 points, and even without the ur / downgrade call Mao still should have won, since the GOE should have been a lot lower on Miki's combo. Third, Miki Ando lost her balance and wobbled twice during her spiral sequence with positions that were less flexible than Mao's who did not lose her balance and had superior positions, yet they received almost exactly the same score, so Mao's score was also relatively deflated in the spiral sequence. Fourth, Mao received a full downgrade for her ur on the double axel / triple toe because I believe there were no ur calls at the time, while today this would have been only a ur and again Mao would have won. I am not sure about the downgrade / ur ruling but Mao lost like half the base value of her 2A / 3 T not 30 percent as it is today with a ur. The thing with COP is the scores are released and then you have to wait for the protocols and then people rarely go over the jumps to see if the jump calls are consistent between competitors because many assume ur and edge calls are objective, which they are often aren't. Plus, the scoring is so complicated that it requires a lot of due diligence to catch the mistakes especially on tech calls, which in my opinion has made figure skating too focused on things that are barely and often invisible in real time and to me takes away from the overall beauty of a performance. besides calls being made that often favor one skater over another.
4:02에 나오는 레이백스핀하는 중에 허리를 피고 다리를 위로 쭉올리는 자세를 비엘만 자세라고 부릅니다. 다리를 완전히 올린후에 최소 4바퀴를 돌아야 레이백스핀 레벨4을 받을수있는데 아사다마오가 너무 흥분한 나머지 2.5바퀴정도 돌아 최고레벨을 챙기지 못하는바람에 0.6점차이로 안도미키한테 밀려 금메달을 놓쳐버려서 통곡의 비엘만스핀이라고 부르는겁니다 ㅋㅋ
vistaprime two foot landing.. how much do you know about Figure skating ⛸.. that was incredible triple axels by Mao Asada .. 180 degree edges position take off the ice and flew into the air and deep edges landing perfectly.. read more about Jumps textbooks 📚 .. Mao Asada is legend but her components scored very low, she should got higher than that she is an artist..
>> valkyrie275 ”two footed but high score” She was down-graded on two foot landing, of course. Sounds like you have never seen tripple axel before.. You know how difficult 3A is, right? Mao did ”difficult in” to 3A, she added ”steps” right before 3A, which has been done by anyone else. That's why. But not only that, well.. it's gonna be very long so I stop here. lol
このプログラム本当に大好き。チャルダッシュ聞くだけで真央ちゃんの演技思い出して、元気になれる。
So cute Mao! So light! Delightful to watch.
真央ちゃんの笑顔と泣き顔…つられちゃうんですよね～！
What a fantastic program!
Mao is No.1 figure skater no matter what anyone says.
確かこのとき、真央ちゃんは手の小指を大会直前に骨折だったかヒビが入る怪我をしていたはずです。
ショートで失敗しても言い訳せずに真っ向から勝負して、トリプルアクセルで両足になろうがバランスを崩そうが、16歳で日本のアイドル的存在になって大変なプレッシャーでよく頑張りました。
フリーの日、お母さんに、優勝してくるね！と言ってホテルを出て行ったそうです！お母さんは会場には行かずホテルで見守ったとか。。。
それを思うとあの涙はもらい泣きしちゃうわ。。。
あぁ、すごい…
こういうふうに、我を忘れて興奮している真央ちゃんがもう一度見たい…
よく浅田選手は日本のマスコミに「表現力が無い」と言われていましたが、むしろ某ライバル選手より表現力があり、逆に「難易度は別として技術力があった」のは某選手だったと思う。
チャルダッシュとノクターンとラベンダーとやって、鐘を演技できる表現力はえげつないんだよな。このチャルダッシュ見た後に鐘やラフマニノフみたらよくわかると思う。なぜチャルダッシュ可愛くカッコよく演技した浅田選手が、恐ろしい鐘という演技が出来たのか。天才。そして技術力は努力に努力を重ねた。
いつみても真央ちゃんは素敵。 みていて一緒に涙が出てきます。 我が家は皆ファンです。
wonderful performance!!
この試合でのフリーでの感動を、ソチでもう一度見たい。このときも、ショートは大きなミスがあって出遅れたため優勝に届きませんでしたが、当時のフリー歴代最高点でした。
皆んなに愛される真央ちゃん、理由が良くわかる。ジャルダッシュ、仮面舞踏会、本当に好きなプログラム。
いつまでも、見ていたい❣️
アイスショーで一杯ジャンプ、スピン見たいです。これからもずーっと応援しています。❤
真央ちゃんのステップからのトリプルアクセル好き♡
wunderbar! wundaber! Mao ist ein Schatz von Japan. 真央ちゃんの演技をみると、いつも魂がゆさぶられる。いつも涙が出る。
A Japanese Beauty of a Champion on ice to never forget!
ステップからの3Aなんて…
すご過ぎる
ホントにジャンプ、スケーティング、表現力、スター性、容姿全て兼ね備えたこんな選手今後出てこないような気がする
ああ、いつ見ても感動で、圧巻ですね 何で低評価がこんなにつくのか、、、やっかみってキモいですね。一生真央ちゃんが大好きです。全てにおいてパーフェクトなのに、性格も根性も素晴らしく、それなのに今だに妖精、、、稀有な存在です。
懐かしいな、、、ミキティと真央ちゃんが争ってたときの時代ですよね、、、セカンドループ、、、女子の技術発展を阻んだものって何だったんでしょうね。
新採点システム。(^^;)
Mao should have won. They did everything possible to deflate her score through harsh tech calls like the negative GOE and full downgrades on jumps at a time when the triple axel was already undervalued, while ignoring the spiral mistake in Miki Ando's program and the ur on her back end triple loop. This set the stage for Mao's perpetual underscoring.
Agreed!
16歳の真央ちゃん。ちょーかわいい。やっぱりチャルダッシュは最高。
2007つったら自分5歳なのに真央ちゃんといえばこの衣装が強く浮かぶ、、なんでだろう刷り込み…、？すごく似合ってるからかな
この頃はミスをすれば点数が下がってミスをしなければ点数が上がった。分かりやすくハッキリしていた。だからショートで大きなミスをしてしまった真央ちゃんはショートの点数が下がってフリーで大きなミスをしてしまったキム・ヨナはフリーの点数が下がった。そしてショートフリー共にミスなく高難度のコンビネーションを決めた安藤美姫が優勝した。
この次の年くらいからだよね。訳分からなくなったの。
この動画から10年以上経ってようやくステップから3Aを跳ぶ女子が出てきましたよ
時代を先取りしすぎですよ真央さん！
誰ですか
真央ちゃんは最強
Wow! Just amazing!
長い手足を生かしたステップ、musicに乗って颯爽と踊る
真央ちゃん、圧巻ですね…まるで 御伽の国から出てきた
お人形さんの様…素晴らしい、貴方は日本の誇りです👍
ちょちょちょ、うま過ぎですよ！！これはこの年の子がやれることじゃないです！天才だ！！！！
16歳頃が一番上手でしょ。年齢が高くなると体型変化で跳べなくなったりするし。(;´∀｀)
綺麗な涙と演技
やばい！すごい！
真央ちゃんの嬉しくて涙が浮かぶ笑顔。私まで泣けてきちゃいます。ソチでも今までの苦しかったことも、それでも負けずに前を見つめ健全さを貫いた真央ちゃん。心から尊敬してます。最後のオリンピック、真央ちゃんの志すスケートが晴れ晴れとできますように...応援してます！(^O^)
ジャンプの質としてはアルトゥニアンコーチが指導してたこの頃が一番高かったと思うな。
She. Looks so sweets,and beautiful,girls,
무대를 즐기는게 눈에 보인다ㅋㅋ in this video, she is so adorable. She is enjoying this program.
Maravilhosa nessa época... super segura e feliz
this is absolutely lovely
Gente fiquei arrepiada
Como essa menina patina
E eletrizante
Pena que já se aposentou
Mas estou sempre vendo os grandes feitos que essa atleta deixou marcado
Parabéns ! MAO !
3Aのは２フット（両足着氷）じゃなくタッチダウンだけどな
可愛らしい真央ちゃん(,,>
brava!
Simply beautiful
The Queen
Mao You are the real princess on the ice. We will watch and protect you transforming from princess to queen in 2014 at Sochi!!
Хочется смотреть и смотреть. Щедевр!!!!
amazing program.
Perfection.
One of THE BEST PERFORMANCE I'VE EVER SEEN!!! AMAZING, FLAWLESS. Mao is my fav skater and artist
回転早すぎて、一瞬２つ目のジャンプ3A3Tかと思った。
ステップからの3Aにセカンドループ、スケーティングも当時から滑らかだし。
メディアが必死に浅田真央の後継者作ろうとしてるけど、これはでてこねーわ。
she looks gorgeous here!
me encanta este programa de mao.
she is very good!
これ...涙でる
ジャンプの後の溌剌としたガッツポーズと得点発表後の驚きの涙
これ以降の試合だって本当はこの笑顔がたくさん見られるはずの演技と実力だった
浅田選手のオリンピックシーズン世界選手権の演技→キム・ヨナのオリンピック演技→この動画の順に見ました。
この演技はジャンプ前の漕ぎの多さやシットスピン(？)があったのならばきちんとしゃがめていなかったり、少しスピンのブレがあったり、オリンピックのキム・ヨナに近い演技に見えたけど、逆にバンクーバーやソチでどれだけ努力してレベルアップを図ったかがよく分かりました
※ただスパイラルはこのころから凄い！
キム・ヨナはずっとこのシーズンのレベルのまま成長しなかったのですね。
キム・ヨナはこのシーズンはまだジュニアだったのかもしれないけれど、この時の真央ちゃんと互角であったのであれば、バンクーバー・ソチでもジャンプ前に漕ぎが多く、シットスピンも腰と膝が同じ高さだった。
当時はスタミナ不足でフリーは必ずミスして他選手に挽回させられていたから、レベルアップよりもミスなく無難な演技にシフトしたんでしょうね
きちんと判定してあげていたらキム・ヨナだってレベルアップしただろうけど、そのままでも加点を付けて優勝させてくれたからな...
浅田選手を潰したのはもちろん、キム・ヨナ自身も周りに成長を信じてもらえなくて潰された犠牲者のひとりかも
ありがと、まお-ちゃ🎉
このコーチのままやったら金メダル取れてたんちゃうん
メダルとることが、全てではないから。
審判が買収されているからどんなコーチがついても同じことだったよ
ジャンプは ちゃんと飛んでも 回転不足を取られたり
スピン ステップも 素人目から見ても 優れているのに 下手くそな 韓国の選手 とほぼ同一 だったり
本当に最悪な時代です
スタイルが良くて 海外選手と対抗出来る娘さんが出て来た‼️って思って 釘付けになりました。
安藤美姫との対決で楽しかったのになーーーー😢
just SUPER !!!!!
Hiralyいおかん ㅋㅋㅋnext,,,,
I love this performance, well-choreographed with good musical sense of rythm. I like 1:54 spin sequence with quick-slow-quick movement! Very comfortable to look. :)
Hye Kang, Her choreography was exceptional. She has enormous musical potentials. You never know what Mao did when she's not skating on the ice. I imagined her to be a ballet dancer in her other life. She's not just some figure skater doing a typical lutz jump.
마오예쁘고넘최고잘한다 행복해*^^^^*
two foot two footってうるさいわ！ ステップからのアクセルやってみな！他の選手は絶対できないね！
Then World Record!
triple axel is very difficult after a step.
Mao is a genius!!
triple axel judged downgrade and deduct points.
She landed two foot.
장건희 another one korean who are blind and dont watch it. 3A in this program is not 2 foot and no UR. it is a correct 3A with step and yes +GOE.
I want to know that you have eyes. If you watch the video that you can find two foot landing.,,
lol. it's not two foot landing. you can check it in other video such as ESPN. very clean and clear. in this video it's no ice flies and well fluid movement.
lf you want to know the truth go to this website. blog.naver.com/korksn/100195878456
About time the broadcaster is speaking in my native ancestrial language(other than the other being Irish)-German.
Wow had no idea Rafael was her coach. She should have stuck with him.
she is truly something special : )
가벼움으로 팡팡 뛸때 ❤ 마오도 잘했죠 연아선수는 더더더더 잘했지만...
트위즐도 좋았고 통곡의 비엘만(.. 이지만
전 이때 비엘만 마오 포지션 좋아했어요 여성스러운 느낌 소녀와 여자의 사이.. 딱
스텝도 참 팡팡 ㅎㅎ..
Mao's jump components are higher than Yuna's at this championships
This was the first time I saw Mao skate and it was the best performance I had ever seen with an amazing combination of sophisticated and intricate beauty, prima ballerina flexibility, elegance and lightness with an underlying power in the great skating skills and the triple axel. In my opinion, Mao won this competition especially since she was scored more harshly than Miki was. First of all, the triple axel was not a true two foot landing because the flow of the skate did not stop and it was not visible by most people in real time, but even with the deflated scoring of the triple axel Mao should have won. First, the triple axel here was too undervalued at only 7.5 points. If it were what it is now, 8.5 points, Mao would have won. Miki skated well overall. But in the LP, she had a ur on her backend triple lutz / triple loop wth a wobble and hook on the landing and she bent over quite a bit to hold on. Yet, the combination received +1.1 GOE and full base value. The proper ur call which were all downgrades at that time I believe would have given Mao the victory by at least 4 points, and even without the ur / downgrade call Mao still should have won, since the GOE should have been a lot lower on Miki's combo. Third, Miki Ando lost her balance and wobbled twice during her spiral sequence with positions that were less flexible than Mao's who did not lose her balance and had superior positions, yet they received almost exactly the same score, so Mao's score was also relatively deflated in the spiral sequence. Fourth, Mao received a full downgrade for her ur on the double axel / triple toe because I believe there were no ur calls at the time, while today this would have been only a ur and again Mao would have won. I am not sure about the downgrade / ur ruling but Mao lost like half the base value of her 2A / 3 T not 30 percent as it is today with a ur. The thing with COP is the scores are released and then you have to wait for the protocols and then people rarely go over the jumps to see if the jump calls are consistent between competitors because many assume ur and edge calls are objective, which they are often aren't. Plus, the scoring is so complicated that it requires a lot of due diligence to catch the mistakes especially on tech calls, which in my opinion has made figure skating too focused on things that are barely and often invisible in real time and to me takes away from the overall beauty of a performance. besides calls being made that often favor one skater over another.
Could not have said it any better, I don't know wtf those judges r smokin'.
Its 12 years already
이때 더 잘한다.의상도 이쁘구.
nice work...
wonderfull..you are the top..you are the best..
Oh my god what is this music!
Henry Shen bitch don't u dare insult this beautiful piece and it's called CZARDAS
For the people who says she has no speed, were you watching the program? I mean, I understand you are running out of insults, but that is ridiculous.
パガニーニかんぺき。
I want that dress.......
韓国語のコメント多いけど読めない。日本語で書いて欲しい。でも真央ちゃんの悪口なら要らないです！韓国のユ・ヨン選手？トリプルアクセル飛びましたね～！綺麗でした。韓国の方も楽しみ増えましたね。
韓国語のコメント、一年以内の新しいのが多いですね。浅田真央さんのかつての珠玉の動画たちにも同じことが言えます。
그러나 이후 연아는 전설이 되었다
Rosa Min ヨナヨナしつこいぞい！
真央ちゃんの動画まできていちいち、キムチの名前をだすな！
まつざか梅 すいません 両選手とも立派だが、このような愚かな人々ため、各国のファンたちが怒ってないば良いと思います。 私は韓国人だが、真央、金妍兒、二人ともとても好きです。 代わりに謝罪します。
제발 마오 동영상까지 와서 이런 댓글 남기지 마세요. 부끄러워요..
연아 동영상 와서 남기는애들은..
xxxibgdrgn _ 니네 원숭이나 잘 관리해
솔직히 인정하자 이때만큼은 마오가 몸이가벼운시절이라 제일 전성기였던것을ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
真央ちゃん凄いです。
이제보니 아사다마오 잘했네!김연아 절정기에 마오는 침체기 ㅠ
チャーリーダッシュｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ
이것이 그 유명한 통곡의 비엘만스핀이군요
宝 宝 그게 모에유
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
4:02에 나오는 레이백스핀하는 중에 허리를 피고 다리를 위로 쭉올리는 자세를 비엘만 자세라고 부릅니다. 다리를 완전히 올린후에 최소 4바퀴를 돌아야 레이백스핀 레벨4을 받을수있는데 아사다마오가 너무 흥분한 나머지 2.5바퀴정도 돌아 최고레벨을 챙기지 못하는바람에 0.6점차이로 안도미키한테 밀려 금메달을 놓쳐버려서 통곡의 비엘만스핀이라고 부르는겁니다 ㅋㅋ
nsjsns jdjdd ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 상세한 설명 감사함다
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
was the triple axel two footed. might explain why she didn't win this championship.
vistaprime two foot landing.. how much do you know about Figure skating ⛸.. that was incredible triple axels by Mao Asada .. 180 degree edges position take off the ice and flew into the air and deep edges landing perfectly.. read more about Jumps textbooks 📚 .. Mao Asada is legend but her components scored very low, she should got higher than that she is an artist..
얘 마지막에 우는게 연아가 앞선무대에서 실수를 해서 자기가 이겼다고 확신해서 우는거임ㅋㅋ김칫국드링킹이 쟤네 종특인가보네
@エーリッヒハルトマン 그럼 아사다 마오 러츠는 어디갔나요?
エーリッヒハルトマン 나 번역기 돌리기 기찮다 고대 문명같은 쉬운 한글로 니가 번역기 돌려서 한국어로 댓적어봐라 뭐라 씨부리는지 보자 이놈아
エーリッヒハルトマン 뭐랰ㅋㅋ
@@k331 ugly fat pig mao! Vancouver silver sochi no medal hahaha 걍 연아 연느님이랑 비교상대가안되는데 어디서 덤비냐 ㅉㅉ wrong edge unrotated jump
@@k331 느그거품마오 안사요^^
이때가 몸 도 가볍고 긴장도 덜해서 잘한다
연아가 바로 앞에서 실수 많이해서 긴장 풀림 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 연아가 클린했으면 멘탈 나감 항상 마오
Miki Ando.
Mao was on 2 place. -.-
:)
그 유명한 통곡의 비엘만.... 그릇이 간장종지보다 작았던 그녀.. 리얼 복발차........
>> valkyrie275
”two footed but high score”
She was down-graded on two foot landing, of course.
Sounds like you have never seen tripple axel before..
You know how difficult 3A is, right?
Mao did ”difficult in” to 3A, she added ”steps” right before 3A, which has been done by anyone else.
That's why.
But not only that, well.. it's gonna be very long so I stop here. lol
형광 나방보다 훨 낫다
2007
Здесь есть русские? Или я одна? Отзовитесь!!!!!
Не одна
relatives to Aung san suu kyi isn't she?
구성 대박이네요. 3A에 3F3L, 2A3T 라니.
수호 문제는 회전이 모자름
이기영 ㅇㅈ 비비기 실화!
3A은 회전수 채웠는데 두발착지같아보이네요ㅋㅋ 연결룹은 확실히 언더 ㅋㅋ
Did you see the take of of 3T before 2A? (2A+3T) The topick hits full blade!
two footed triple axel
안무 이쁘다
설마 두번째점프 트악 트토에요??
아뇨 마오눈 트악트토 뛴 적 없어요
마오도 주변사람들 잘 만났으면 멘탈 관리잘하고 몸안무너졌으면 최소 연아가 없을때 세계 제패할 그릇이었는데...롱엣지며 회전수며 연아가 잘해서 그런거지 요즘 스케이터들도 마오보다 못하는 애들이 포디움이더라
마오보다 못하다고? 애초에 저때 규정이 느슨해서 점프 비비기가 가능했던거지 지금 마오보다 기본이 탄탄한 애들이 널렸다 자기 멘탈관리며 몸 관리는 선수 본인의 숙명이거늘!
누굴탓하오?
화이 22222
아는척하지마 요즘선우 후려치는 인간아 요즘선수가 더잘하지
최고 전성기시절
4:24 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
잘한다
이때 귀여웠구나.
연아는 이때 이미 커있었고 마오는 아직 덜큰티가 나서 애기같다.
greentea latte 아닌데요. 누가 커있어요... ㅠㅠ 김연아도 애기였어요
얘는 맨날 넘어지고 하는데도 1등아니면 2등, 이해불가임!