Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 8: The Review
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This is the unboxing and first look at the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 8 by Andrew Marc David
#Lenovo #ThinkPad #X1Carbon
Video Index:
00:00 Intro
01:18 Specs and Price
01:59 Design, Build and Construction
02:46 Size Comparison
03:06 Ports
03:40 Display
05:08 Webcam and Fingerprint Scanner
05:47 Keyboard, Touchpad & TrackPoint
06:45 Audio
07:06 User Upgradeability
07:38 Wireless
08:00 Performance & Benchmarks
08:23 Gaming
08:41 Thermals
09:05 Battery Life & Charging
09:35 Pros & Cons
10:18 The Score
10:35 Final Thoughts
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Excellent review as always, Andrew. I bought a ThinkPad Extreme last month after I watch your review. Keep them coming!
Thank you! Exactly what I wanted to hear with regards to this laptop!
Yes! Been waiting for this as I’m strongly considering this laptop, but wanted to see what you had to say. Thanks for the fair and honest review. Strong work, as always. Keep it up!!
very informative review. thanks.
Thanks for a great review! I was on the fence deciding on a new business laptop, this helped me decide.
Great review.. thanks
Great Video! Amazing quality and care, KEEP IT UP!
Thanks really appreciate it 👊
Thank you so much for this review! Would you recomend it over macbook pro 13 2020?
"Take a licking and keep on ticking" LoL Andrew, the script being so accurate on the device and keeps cracking me up at the same time.
Glad you like it!
I just ordered this with i7 to replace my 6 year old Thinkpad Yoga.
I bought Gen8 myself a week ago. Great product but keep these in mind before you purchase.
1. If you are a Linux user, there is no fingertip driver support. Hopefully Lenovo will do something about it.
2. Speakers are really weak. Forget about cooking and listening to your favorite podcast :)
3. As Andrew said a case is touch-sensitive, at least you will wash your hands before touching it and stay safe from COVID.
4. Left Ctrl key placement...hard to get used to it.
5. With some extra brightness on the screen and the keyboard, I would say you will get 5 hours of battery life (on Linux Mint 19).
6. There is no point going from Gen 6&7 to 8. They are not significantly different.
Still very happy with my decision to buy it. I place it one inch above MBT and XPS.
Hope this helps. Cheers
For Linux: more recent kernels allow for everything including the fingerprint scanner. Ubuntu 20.04 works nicely, though i had to install the driver myself.
Guillaume M you should be able to get the fingerprint reader firmware using fwupd (build into the software updater in some distros)
@@afriendonline8564 It didnt work by itself last month, was it updated recently ?
Can i work a simple video editing on it ?
I received my Gen 8 2 week ago. Mine comes with the UHD(3840x2160) IPS Glare 500nits display and it is simply astounding display. You watch a TH-cam video and it's like you are there with them. The Dolby Atmos sound also is great.
Coming from my previous bulky T520. It is so thin and light. I'm so happy with my choice.
And how is the battery life with this Display?
No flickering issues ?
Hello Andrew, although X1 is one of its kind notebook, im more interested in 15 inch P line. Do you have any info when is lenovo releasing the P15 notebook?
Hi, thanks for a great review. Would the same screen with a touch display (low power FHD 400nits) significantly hit the battery life?
Great review!
Thanks Mahyar!
Hello Andrew. Thanks for the great review. I like that in a short review I get a lot of information!
Are you expecting to review the Thinkpad T14s? I'm anticipating to watch it soon.
Thanks! Yes but don't have date yet
The way he smiles just before saying "COMING UP" remembering how much the community loves his signature ❤️🔥
The elegant reviews with the blend of your style and personality are amazing, even though i might not be interested in all products still i am tempted to click just to hear him say "COMING UP"
One request from my side, I am looking for a budget tablet, so if you can suggest a good one or if possible make a video on the topic...thanks already
Now this is my dream laptop
Nice video! Can’t wait for your HP Envy 15 (normal version with 2060 graphics card) since its a great option to the zephyrus g14, the razer and alike
Damn, the intros👏🏻
As usual, another great laptop from Lenovo, another very good review from Andrew.
Thanks really appreciate it 👊
I returned my Macbook Air for the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 8. I couldn't waste more time on their faulty hardware. Initially, very hesitant as an avid Apple user... But damn, zero regrets.This product is beautiful. A lot of people talk about using this laptop for work but I use it recreationally and it works great.
I was surprised to find the sound quality to be better than the Air. The speakers underneath help maximize its potential. Macbook wins the display by color just a bit, but without comparing, there's nothing to complain about! The Air runs a lot slower, overheats and crashes. None of those issues here especially with actual vents.
Surprisingly, I did not find much of my fingerprints on the finish so I never found myself having to wipe it down. My experience with the battery is that it takes 1 hour to fully charge and will run out in 4 hours.
Bruh are you ok? I have one from work and while I like the form factor and the keyboard it’s way overpriced for what it is specially the 16GB one that used LPDDR3 my $50 rasberry pi has 8GB DDR4 lol. Let’s not forget runs windows that’s a big no no.
@@alexcipriani6003 then get a Linux or install the mackintosh
I so appreciate this comment. I just had a mbp 16 overheat and crash. I had to return but now I'm without a working laptop and utterly confused on what to get. I have to order something today as I've been dragging for weeks and came across this Lenovo video. I hesitated w Lenovo due to postpurchase customer service horror stories I've read. But all of the companies are like that I'm starting to think. Thank you for sharing your Lenovo experience .
Nsikakobong Eyakz I do have a Linux but sometimes there’s issues even with that due to not having certified hardware. I use Linux for embedded electronics work but use Mac for software development and most other stuff. Linux is not used/allowed in most corporate machines so that leaves you with Windows or MacOS
@@ifgodwz1ovus Lenovo is good, my first Lenovo lasted for about 4yrs I fried the board totally my fault..... But it served me well it was an entry level gaming system, but it played call of duty and PES 17, without issues.... Lenovo systems are good, and cheaper than Mac books or Dells
This is a nice machine no doubt. The web cam is not bad for this type of camera. The internal mic was slightly distorted but acceptable. Key board is very good. FYI: Look at my third comment on you unboxing video of the HP 15 in Spectre and also my comment on last week's live stream regarding the Thunderbolt ports on the Spectre. Their might be some confusion of how many thunderbolt ports are on this PC. Again great review.
I have a feeler out to HP for clarification. Stay tuned
Got the same specs. Super satisfied
Nice!!
You’re the man buddy
Hey, Andrew. Thanks for yet another excellent review. I think the UHD options in this size of laptops are overrated, esp without a dedicated GPU. This is a lovely editor's choice for the business professional. Btw, I have been thinking about the things that would make laptops even more secure and reliable. I think the addition of LTE and a hardware-based tracking device would make the systems harder to hack and harder to steal. Let's research on it and share what we come up with. Looking forward to the next livestream. Keep up the awesome work 👍🏾.
Hey Andrew, thanks for this review! I'm definitely planning on buying this laptop in the next weeks. However, I would have liked to hear a sample from this Gen 8's speakers, to see if they sound good. Do you think it is possible? :)
Hi,
Do you have any idea about the new FHD panel with privacy guard 500 nits and touch? Is the battery life same as UHD model? And does privacy guard affect the viewing angle or same as the other FHD panels?
Thanks
would this be a good choice for engineering applications like Catia design software or CFD work?
The description says "This is the unboxing and first look" video. But this isn't the unboxing video -- the video itself says so at 3:09. Anyone have a link?
Just received mine on Thursday. I find that it is good quality and good value for a business laptop.
Hi Andrew - love your content man! Would you recommend this, the X1 Yoga or the XPS 15? I know it’s not apples to apples per se but looking for a reliable laptop for business school mostly for Excel modeling and PowerPoint deck building thanks!!
Hey, Marco. If the spec-for-spec is the same, take the Yoga - better thermals, better keyboard, better price, better ports and is convertible. The XPS should have a better and more colour accurate display and a bigger trackpad.
PAUL KOIGI thank you
When will the UHD version review come out ? I really wanna know the lifespan on average use.
Very nice review. I was considering this laptop since you can no longer customize the 7th Gen. Would love to see a comparison video between X1 and the HP Envy x360 AMD Ryzen with similar specs.
Planes are packed, Time to travel and go get out in the world!. Live and be Safe, don't be afraid to be out in the world, it's fine out there, don't let people scare you. Andrew I don know what you use for Audio, but its SUPER Clear, the best I have heard. Some other channels' Audio are less than adequate....Almost to 100K Andrew!, climbing rapidly 👍👍👍
Thanks Fly Guy!! Safe travels!
Wear a mask, Happy Travels!
@@dervvy The Masks are over... They are virtually useless, as the Airline Pilots say. Masks are for bacteria, Viruses are much smaller [microscopic] THEY GO RIGHT THROUGH.. Thats the science... you can look it up if you don't understand these basics of science.
@@AA-flyguy 👏👏👏
Nice review
Thanks!
do you think it is worth it to upgrade to the x1 gen 9? From Spain
I am really looking forward to your possible review of the upcoming new Lenovo Workstation lineup, to be officially announced on 14 July 2020. I would not be surprised if you already had a P17 on one of your shelves, hidden from public view, ready be revealed when the Lenovo review embargo is lifted.
My lips are sealed 😉
Some upcoming E and L series thinkpads are getting Ryzen processors. That's exactly what they should be putting in the X and P series
Also needs a 4k-ips-touchscreen, hopefully the extreme gets it
I am in favor of 2k high quality displays rather than 4k
I have a question are this laptop hard to hack any system that protect diferente from the others or Wich laptop was a good antihack
I'm not a computer kind of guy and with my new job, they're asking me to buy my own laptop. The x1 gen 8 i5 16gb variant here brand new is 600usd. Is it worth it? I'm not planning to buy the latest and greatest since I will use it for work only. Please give me some insights.
Does it support external monitors via usb type C?
How's the audio quality from the headphone jack? I've had a few laptops surprise me with awful, crusty headphone audio
Sounds good
I was so hoping for a 10th Gen Ice lake processor and iris plus. :(
Getting this for online class
How this compare with Yoga C940? Which one would be your pick between the two? Thanks a lot!
i'm using uhd touchscreen version of c940. if you care long battery life, choose fhd non touchscreen. except battery life, it is amazing.
To me, I believe the Think Pad has the best keyboard on any laptop. I've been using them for years & they feel premium. The camera is also clear & the mic isn't half bad.
Agreed
Everyone’s gonna flame me but I spec’d out an E14 for a day to day and it does everything I need it to... even though the X1 is the business.. this’ll do for now
How good is battery life and is the display on the E14 bright enough? I also presume you have the 4700U version?
I can but other better laptops with this laptop's price but i am really attracted to thinkpads overall build quality.
YAY!! This was great Andrew... I just bought one [a 7th Gen -got a Super Deal] last week and it arrived Tuesday, then I ordered another [8th Gen] today👍👍👍
Nice!!!
My Gen 7 has the same position of the x1 logo, is it cause I got the refresh with 10th gen processor?
i have the 1oth gen processor to with 6 cores. i love this laptop my favorite of all time.. wen i got to like best buy and look at other laptop nutting comes close to the way this looks and feels.
@@809castro X1 Carbon 8th gen comes with 6 core option?
@@vulcanus9384 I didn't see 6 cores on the ThinkPads 🤷
@@809castro OH YOUR ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!! 👍👍👍
@@809castro Hey I'm actually looking to buy that laptop right now, how is the battery life on it?
That web cam to me is very clear for 720P
Soldered RAM? Non-standard Ethernet port (requires adapter dongle) ?
A good machine, maybe, but not for me.
@@David-vb8tg lol
@@David-vb8tg Hahaha yeah like checking out a laptop that weighs 1kg and complaining about soldered RAM
Nice review , good unit , but from my experience , just the display is the piece of resistance , and thats it with the X1 series . Maybe if they put some Ryzen 4700u with more cores , and 15" , that will make it a real deal , but for the moment I will not spend my money on it .
I think thermals are what's keeping Lenovo from putting the new Ryzen 4000U series in the X1 Carbon; I have the Ryzen 4750U in my T14s and it runs uncomfortably hot, which would only get worse with the even smaller X1 Carbon.
No laptop with an intel cpu is worth an upgrade now with how much better ryzen is in my opinion. Any updates on new laptops coming on with a ryzen chips and a 2060 gpu?
We R wating for the review of the envy 15t
when can you review X1 Yoga Gen 5?
Very soon. Stay tuned
So here’s the real question. Assuming they are not at the same price (let’s say G8 is +$400) is it worth it or better to just snag the gen 7.
Very nice laptop
Legendary Laptop. Love this business book in Pakistan 🎉
Low fan noise? I cannot stand the fan noise in my Dell Latitude laptop :/
Please review X1 yoga gen 5. Confused with C940 or X1 yoga
Go with x1 yoga man.
@@niravarora9887 @Nirav.. did you buy X1 Yoga gen 5 ... Pls let me know how is your experience or pls share a good review link as I need to buy one for my work. Unable to decide between X1 carbon Gen 8 and X1 Yoga Gen 5 . Thanks
@@RaC09 nope man, I went with C940, there were bunch of great things with C940 but I love Thinkpad.
I had some issues with C940, hence i asked them for different model and they sent me X1 carbon, i love it, it's not perfect but a great laptop and keyboard.
Nirav Arora thanks Nirav. How do you like X1 carbon.
@@RaC09 i like it more because i don't need yoga functionalities, i am obsessed with keyboard feel and this is some of the finest.
When i use with dock, the advantage of using carbon is, the side power button works even when lid is closed, that was not the case with c940, another thing i found was x1 carbon would charge at normal speed even when i am using it whereas c940 charging would slow down.
C940 had it's own advantage too, bigger battery, 10 nm processor and better graphics.
I hope i mentioned the points that you wouldn't get in reviews generally and i hope it helps you out.
Are you going to be getting the AMD Ryzen Renoir ThinkPads in the studio for review? Very nice machine, but if they made a Carbon model with Ryzen, that would be fantastic! Looking forward to the live tomorrow, and thank you for the superb review!
Yes, I will be reviewing them, I don't have the exact timetable just yet. Stay tuned and see you tomorrow.
My upstairs ac unit is not working so I may postpone the live stream at 10 am. They are coming to fix it tomorrow so we have to wait and see. It's 110 degrees in Las Vegas so couldn't come at a worse time lol
@@andrewmarcdavid Thanks for letting me know! Las Vegas is sure hot!
AC is sorted out and will go live at 12 noon Pacific Time. Hope you can make it
@@andrewmarcdavid I think I will be able to make it.
i love my laptop, thinkpad 7th generation. but it doesn't compatible with linux at all. mic didn't work for 3 month out of the box. vpn client 2ltp doesn't work.
Why it doesn't compatible with Linux? I wanted to buy it for my cybersecurity major
@@NoraAlfraidi coz everything is opensource, and in case of bugs you should wait for altruist fix)))
@@NoraAlfraidi but, it's amazing one
@@idubrovskyi Oh, good 👌🏻
Yes, I've read a lot of positive reviews about it, but the problem is that it's not available in my country and the keyboard isn't in Arabic, but I'll keep looking. Thanks anyway
This is how many ports ultrabooks should have (looking at you MacBook Air and Dell XPS 13)!
Word!
Brother plz review Dell Inspiron 13 7391 2-in-1 i7...
Coming up!!!!🤎
I am going to High School, and my parents want me to get a Mac, but I only know how to use Windows and don't want to switch. Do you think this is a good powerhouse for some video editing and school work?
For video editing on the windows side I would look at Dell XPS 15 or 17. Also consider the HP Spectre x360 15t
This is not really suited for that kind of workload. You'll wamt something with a discrete graphics card and at least 16gb of ram. Storage would also matter for video editing as raw footage takes up a ton of space!
Wish it had a 16 by 10 display, AMD 8 core U-series chips would have been the move they should have made with all of Intel's CPU security flaws that have been coming up these past few years. But I heard Lenovos T series has AMD options too so might be a better fit for me
I purchased a Lenovo Legion 5 15 "AMD a few days ago with a Ryzen 7 4800H and a graphics card. I am retired now so I hope to have time to play a few games. I took my first programming course in 1980. Laptop hasn't arrived yet but the reviews are exciting. Amd seems to have leaped ahead but I hope Intel can continue to innovate because we all need the competition.
Yeah T14s has you covered for AMD
Can somebody tell me if this laptop would be better for me for programming? I have a Macbook Pro M1 currently. I bought it to get familiar with MacOS, bu I didn't really like it. I want to switch back to Windows.
Should be fine, I'm using it for CS in university. But windows runs fine on Mac no?
sigh the Surfaces continue to have the best webcams, just sucks that they're unreliable and they've now closed the stores.
Imagine if this had a 4800U :'(
It could double as a space heater; the thermals of the new AMD Ryzen processors are already toasty in the T14s chassis, so they can only be that much worse in the even smaller X1 Carbon.
There is no security if you don't start with a Free BIOS (Coreboot being the alt option) then a trusty Linux OS.
We remember what is going on with the IME (AMD also have their version of it).
- Where's the kill-switch for the wireless?
- Removable batteries have the advantage to protect devices from static discharges and ensure privacy if you use the broadband chip. Ask RichardSnowden on that point.
- a dongle to use the basic ethernet really? at the time we're finally getting the fibre speeds.
Is it good for cybersecurity?
I've heard that thinkshield is pretty amazing.
if it comes with sd card reader would be perfect
X1 Gen 8 or T490s ?
Take my advice with a grain of salt. T490s is just the product that you get when you merge the qualities of the X1 Carbon and T490. X1 Remains superior, but the T490s is a good choice for a thin and light laptop with some power to go with it. But I highly suggest you do some research yourself since my advice is a little bit raw. T490s is also cheaper.
i have the 7 gen with and i7-10th gen processor and 6 cores, can i use an egpu , and can it handle video editing. thank you
Bruh he said in the video you can, it has 2 thunderbolt 3 ports. You will get a better bang for your buck if you go with the Legion 5 amd variant which you can get Ryzen 5 six cores 12 threads, 1650ti for less than $1,000. E-gpu docks can be finicky sometimes check out r/egpu on reddit
theceiling_ how heavy is the legion? Gaming laptops tend to be bulky
Yes you can. I have the same one. It's 4 lane which mean you can use external egpu.
Review the Thinkpad P1 please.
Your video is a bit unclear. Are the speakers improved compared to the Gen7 or not? I have tested the 7th Gen from my friend and I really hate the speakers. No matter the settings the top facing speakers didn’t even make sound 95% of the times and in the other 5% it was so quiet that it’s basically like there is no sound. So basically all of the sound comes from below which is absolutely abominable when trying to watch a video with the laptop on the lap. After googling it I found that many people had this issue. So is the 8th Gen better? It would be the perfect laptop for me but the speakers really could break the decision.
Much improved sound as I stated in the video. Can't be anymore clear.
@@andrewmarcdavid So I could confidently buy the Gen 8 as my main laptop? I'm planning to watch all of my Netflix shows and movies on it so the speakers can be a dealbreaker for me. And I tested out the ones of the Gen7 and these speakers are an abomination. Otherwise, this laptop would be really perfect for me.
Would be perfect if we could have a comparison of both speakers :)
I don't have issues with my X1 gen 7. But when working I prefer headphones because bass from the speakers rocks the laptop.
Celicius!
I know lol
Great for business but not future proof, always loved Thinkpads design
My ThinkPad T495s runs circles around this. I can't recommend a Intel cpu at this time when AMD is just killing the market with price per performance.
not really
Would be great with a ryzen
why?
@@dtb9165 ryzen offers equal (and sometimes, better) performance than intel, and also for a cheaper price tag.
DDR3?!! Omg
soldered RAM? non-Ethernet port? this ain't it chief.
Lovely machine but it's such a shame it uses Intel rather than the new faster and more efficient AMD Ryzen 4000 CPU's.
bcoz of TB3 port. ppl need it for eGPU
If anyone have second hand for this x carbon let me know
Lenovoz370 xarakterechiskiy
I always wondered whats with the stupid crooked thinkpad logo inside.. Is it not time to change that lenovo..
How to be a tech reviewer ?
A lot of hard work and dedication
Andrew, this keyboard is terrible. All of your viewers need to know this. The 7th and 8th generation have a keyboard with a different key shape and travel. There are many reviews that document this. I returned the 7th generation because of this.
The mouse software is now ELAN instead of Synaptics. Why, Lenovo???
If you value typing, don't get the 7th or 8th gen.
Thinks not discuss. You can under volt these suckers to get same performance, less heat, most importantly better battery life. Also not mention here is no bloatware stuff to remove ie norton antivirus. Keyboard typing only matters if you touch type though I prefer these over whatever Dell offered. Price already include quick charging so you won’t have to pay more money for faster charging. If you’re use to iPhone screens opt for qhd or 4K. The touch pad is responsive though not as big as Apple. If you’re a gamer and already have a dedicated pc game looking into streaming it to this laptop(message me if you’re interested). Sound is much better than 2 generations ago but MacBook is still the best. The debate of ddr3 and ddr4 isn’t a big of deal compare to the upgrade to newest intel chips. If you really need dedicated graphics look at either the extreme series or work bench series. Lastly the price seems more expensive than it competitors but anyone Lenovo fans know to wait for sales (which occurs frequently And shortly after the the product release). They are well built and very serviceable. People usually upgrade the hdd later on(oh Lenovo doesn’t cheap out on the type of hdd included). Even upgrade the screen and even the motherboard. Built for durability and even water splash on keyboard I would recommend this product for the sheer fact you could pass it down to your kids. If tight on budge I would consider the last generation. Overall a good product. They don’t do rapid changes but what you get is quality components that are easy to find if you need replace or upgrade.
No. great displays is an exaggeration!! 250 nits is low. Except one option with 400 nits
But its intel.
I don't think I would buy any laptop that is not using AMD
Intel is swallowing every laptop (for now), especially with Tiger Lake around the corner.
Junk. Too big and windows......
Too big? You're kidding right?
Go play with your 11 inch laptops LMAO.
I just ordered this with i7 to replace my 6 year old Thinkpad Yoga.