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- You have a PS5 and XBOX Series X/S? PC and Console? Monitor and Projector? Television and Monitor? Your problem has been SOLVED!
The OREI BK202A 2x2 HDMI 2.1 Matrix is the answer. Now you can have it all with both PS5 and XBOX Series X and NO CABLE SWAPPING!
The BK-202A is one of the first affordable HDMI 2.1 matrix options that supports all modes available in HDMI 2.1 specifications, has configurable EDID management, and provides audio extraction over optical SPDIF and analog 3.5mm jack.
This matrix works with 8K, 4K 120Hz, VRR, and uses EDID and Audio Extraction to make sound bar work over optical connection even when your display doesn't support it. This is not an upscaler or downscaler, so displays or capture cards with mixed resolution / refresh rate specs will default to the lower spec when the displays are mirrored using the matrix.
My review includes:
- Unboxing
- Side-by-side video comparison
- Color scopes
- Audio tests with HDMI, Optical SPDIF, and analog 2 channel
- 4K120 and VRR tests
- Full overview of features, controls, and build quality
Product Specifications, Pricing, and to Purchase:
Amazon: amzn.to/3stAkiX
OREI Website: www.orei.com/products/2x2-hdm...
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:58 Unboxing - What's in the box
01:42 Video Comparison Direct vs Through BK-202A
03:17 Audio Tests - HDMI and Optical / Analog Extraction
05:12 Video Tests - 4K120 and VRR
05:46 Controls, Features, and Build Quality - What it Does and Does Not Do
08:49 Who should use the BK-202A
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It is finally here, an affordable HDMI 2.1 matrix.
If you have a combination of two TVs/Monitors/Projectors that support 4K120 and you want to use both with two consoles, PCs, or a combination - THIS IS THE ANSWER!
This 2x2 matrix allows you to show one input on both displays or mix and match your two inputs on both displays. No more cable swapping!
This matrix does not upscale or downscale, so if you want to mirror a source on both displays and they both do not support the same resolutions / refresh rates, the signal passed to both will be the lowest standard supported on both. (It will not pass 4k120 to a television and 4K60 to another display or capture card.)
PS5 / XBOX Series X S - VRR, 4K120, ATMOS, DTS....
Excellent video!!!
Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
I’m glad it works with the elgato 4k60 .mk2. I purchase the hd fury 4k VRROOM early on. And I’ll be getting this.
Thanks for informing that it works with the 4k60pro. Are u displaying it to a 1440p display?
@@Metaflux317 I haven’t gotten around to buying it unfortunately so I haven’t tested it. I’m currently still using the Hd Fury 4k VRROOM still. Im using it with a triple monitor configuration, 2 4k 144hz displays and one 1440p 144hz display.
Fantastic and thorough review of this unit. Appreciate it.
Thanks! I'm glad to help out!
Hi!
Sorry for the long post!
I have a Samsung Q95T. I also have a Samsung HW-Q960A soundbar. I want to use my PS5 and Xbox Series X in the HDMI 2.1 port (for 4K 120Hz support, and 4K 40fps support on PS5). The audio would go through eARC to the soundbar. An HDMI switch would be the obvious solution. However, selecting Dolby or DTS as audio output on either console adds a delay and only LPCM is without delay.
Unfortunately, Samsung TV's down mix multi-channel LPCM to stereo before passing it on to the soundbar. And since the soundbar doesn't have 4K 120Hz support, it's not an option (though the soundbar supports multi-channel LPCM so there's no audio delay when connected directly, but instead you get minimized VRR window, no 40fps support and no 4K120 support).
So in order to get latency-free audio and 4K 120Hz for both consoles I would need a product that does the following:
- Have two 48Gbit HDMI inputs (40Gbit might be OK for XSX and PS5)
- Have a 48Gbit HDMI output for image
- Have an HDMI audio output
- Support automatic switching between the two devices
- Support 4K 120Hz at the same time as HDMI audio output (I've seen ones that are limited to optical when using 4K 120Hz)
- Support HDR
- Support VRR
- Support CEC
These are very specific requirements but they are all important in order for everything to properly work.
You seem very knowledgable so I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask. Maybe even the BK-202A has everything I need, but I'd like to have that confirmed before ordering one to the other side of the Atlantic.
Thanks for your time!
Edit: I just read on their Amazon page that it doesn't extract audio via HDMI at all, so it won't work for me. That's very unfortunate!
Hi there! I have a different television and sound bar, but this is how I was able to get 4K120 and VRR on my display and ATMOS on my sound bar using HDMI. XBOX to input 1 (could also connect PS5 to the other input). Display connected to output 1 and sound bar connected to output 2. Now the key, I set the EDID on the BK-202A to the 8K/4K120/HDR/7.1 mode instead of “copy” mode and set both outputs to "input 1.". This way the XBOX doesn’t read the output options from the display or sound bar but instead from the BK-202A. All options (4K120, HDR, VRR and ATMOS) are available on the XBOX menu and audio/video are in sync without added latency. Auto input switching will not be available with both XBOX and PS5 connected. Optical extraction works as well, but is not required in my case. This is my experience and I have tried a few displays and sound bars - all working, but I can’t be certain every combination will work. There should be a good chance though as EDID is coming from the BK-202A and not the display or sound bar. I hope this helps out.
@@askdrtk hi can you help me with this , it worked i did the same mode edid to 000 but i lost dolby vision and it only works with optical but got all 4k 120 hz and dts digital surround then tried default 111 got dolby vision back but lost the audio options sorry for the long post😅
la salida de audio optical extrae el audio 5.1 de la playstation o del dispositivo conectado para que yo pueda conectarlo a mi receptor o sistema de audio?
Is there a trick to being able to switch between a Series X and a PS5 on the same display? For whatever reason it's not detecting the Xbox when the PS5 is connected. When I unplug the PS5, it will detect it. I don't get it. My monitor and cables are all up to snuff for the record (display is a Sony Inzone M9, which does 4K/144/HDR/VRR/etc.). Thanks.
What does this do better or different from the BK-22?
I am using a BK-22 to split my Apple 4k TV output into dedicated HDMI outputs into a Sony 95k TV and a Audio Processor. Everything seems to work great with default audio switches. What am I lacking. Other than the remote control (which is not in the box)?
The only difference is the BK-202A allows you to individually assign either input to either output (matrix instead of a switch and splitter combo). This would be useful if you wanted to add a second source (game console, PC, etc), but otherwise there is no reason for you move to the 202A. Hope this helps out!
I have a 1440p 144hz monitor . Will I be able to use the 144hz with this switcher? I have a switcher now but it's stuck at 60hz
I have a question for Xbox and this device, does this help with at all with the audio delay that Xbox and Samsung TVs have with Dolby Digital?
I know it's a big problem and I've been trying to find a fix. Some people say audio extractors help massively reduce the issue(not fully fix) so I'm interested to see Orei devices to see if they help.
I don't see anyone talking about these devices for Series X, so I was wondering if you can help.
PS5 doesn't have this issue, but I enjoy playing on my Series X more.
Great question! Yes, extractors have their own “decode’ chip which essentially replaces the need for the TV to deal with the decode. Depending on how they are built, some TVs decode the audio coming in and then re-encode it going back out - they causes audio delay. I cannot be certain, but I believe audio bitrate could be the difference between Series X and PS5. Not all extractors are the same, but I find the decoder in the 202A to be very fast and I don’t have audio lag issues with my Series X, Q70T, and Denon receiver. Hope this helps out!
Hi, I've bought the UltraHD 8K 2x2 HDMI Splitter : 2-In 2-Out, EDID (BK-22) for my Xbox series X and works fine with 4k 120fps. When I go to Netflix titles that should be in 4k are not and it's only when I have the hdmi's plugged in to the UltraHD 8K 2x2 HDMI Splitter : 2-In 2-Out, EDID (BK-22) because 4k works fine with Netfix when I plug the hdmi directly into the xbox
Hi, can I ask if you have more than one display / audio device connected to the outputs and also have you tried a difference cable (the extra one required when not connected directly to the XBOX. I have found many cables that are supposed to support 4K do not, especially if they are on the longer side. Let me know if this makes and difference and if not let me know what TV you and using and which input on it you have connected to.
@@askdrtk It's my Xbox plugged into the splitter and int to two displays one is my monitor and the other is a tcl tv. No audio devices. I also tried different cables
Do both your monitor and TV support 4K? When using the BK-22, both displays will automatically drop to the lowest common supported resolution (the BK-22 is not a scaler, splits same EDID to both displays).
@@askdrtk sorry for the late reply, It was the hdmi's cables so I orderd all of the same ones (hdmi 2.1) and it fixed all the issues
Thanks for the follow up. Glad to hear you have things working!
Hey so I got this product and I noticed a slight issue and was curious if you had any insight on why this might be occuring.
Input 1 = PS5
Input 2 = Nintendo Switch
Output 1 = TV (S95B)
Output 2 = 4k60Pro MKII
EDID is 111
When I have Output 1 running Input 1 everything is fine as long as output 2 is also running input 1
But when I switch output 2 to input 2, Output 1 starts having white flickering. The flickering even occurs when there is nothing plugged into Output 2.
However when I switch the outputs around by making the TV output 2 and the 4k60pro Output 1 the problem is resolved.
I was curious why this is happening. It's not a big deal since I resolved it by swapping the cables around but should I return the product and get a new one due to this possibly being defective?
Sorry for the delay in responding, but I wanted to try to replicate what is happening with my 4k60Pro mkii and Q70T. I did not have the same issue. I would recommend first trying EDID set to 011 and 000 in the configurations where you are getting the flickering. If that does not make a difference, try a different cable between the matrix and TV when using Output 1 only. If neither of these works, you may have a defective matrix.
I need one that passes through DTSX , Atmos and VRR LLLM. Ihave a samsung 75 inch tv that supports Atmos and dolby vison but NO DTSx passtrough with eArc to my Denon x2600h receiver. I need a workaround to get DTSX sound quality to my receiver without loss of ALLM and VRR from xbox to tv. Any Advice?
I have the answer, it is the brand new OREI HDA-939 and my review is going live on Monday December 12th. I have tested it specifically with my Samsung Q70T and Denon receiver (some coincidence...) Let me know if you have any questions after you check it out.
@@askdrtk it is 2.0 not 2.1 which more and more equipment is using.
Hello I want to use this as a hdmi switch is this the right product for it? I use the ps5 I have 4k 60hz tv and a 4K 120hz monitor I want to switch back and forth, every hdmi switch I got make my 4k 120hz monitor have a black screen for a sec and then it comes back I want to know is this solves it
p.s the audio extractor is also need for my Astro a50 headset that why I’m looking at this product
This is exact reason I watched this video, I’ve searched everywhere
Dose this work with 1440p @ 120hz with vrr and 5.1 dts on the Xbox series X when outputting to a HDMI 2.0 monitor. Im asking because I seen some matrix's not retain VRR over a 2.0 display.
Yes, while I couldn’t test all combinations, I was able to use 1440p120 vrr and dts over HDMI 2.0 with a monitor / soundbar that support it over HDMI 2.0. Generally, if it works without the matrix, it will work with this matrix.
@@askdrtk thank you for the info
I’m wondering if you could help me with a question before buying this:
I have 2 arcade game cabinets that each have its own speakers amp with 3.5mm audio input. So if I get this unit and want two split the audio between both 2 3.5mm audio inputs can this do that? Would I need a optical splitter?
What would happen if my 1st output has input 1 and 2nd output has input 2. Would the audio come in correctly for each?
Sorry if this didn’t make sense.
Thank you!
The L and R analog output is decoded and downmixed from the source being sent to output 1. There is no way to split the two sources between the two analog audio output channels that I have found. I believe this is what you are looking for, but let me know if I got it mixed up.
@@askdrtk so I guess I answered my own question. I recently bought this unit. But what’s odd is when I keep the edid to 111 I get video but no sound and when I move the edid to 110 “1080p 60hz which my monitor is” I get audio but no video. Do you think this might be do to me using dvi to hdmi on my output?
@@askdrtk thank you for the response btw!
All good! EDID does not play nicely with DVI to HDMI...I would say that is most likely the issue.
Hey there I've got a question and I'm wondering if you can help me with a work around.
My setup is a
55" 1080p Samsung UN50J6300 (2015)
32" 4K 144hz Dell G3223Q (2022)
Xbox Series X
14" 120Hz Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 (2020)
I purchased the BK-202A to replace my Orei UHD-PRO102 because I upgraded to a new 4K monitor and wanted to play in 4k 120hz.
I didn't realize that the BK-202A doesn't have auto scaling like my UHD-PRO102 does. This allowed me to have one monitor at 4k 60hz and one at 1080p 60hz.
Is there a way for me to use this BK-202A so I can have 4K 120hz on my one monitor and 1080p on my TV still? Or am I out of luck since there is no scaling? Thanks in advance, cheers brother
Unfortunately scaling with HDMI 2.1 specs (4K120) is not yet widely available…the 202A is not going to be able to get that down. The only reliable option I am currently aware of is the HDFury VRRoom (which is around $500 usd last time I checked). The same issue happened with HDMI 2.0 a few years ago, so I believe we will begin to see a few more affordable options this year that support 4k120 and scaling. Hope this helps out!
hey i have two gaming monitors from samsung and msi which i want to connect to my Acer Nitro 5 AN517-51-52QJ gaming laptop . the samsung monitor is 1080p 240hz and the msi one is 1080p 144hz. does the orei bk-202a support both?
- the laptop is 120hz btw
The 202a supports all modes you have mentioned for both monitors but it is not a scaler and therefore will output the lower common available resolution and refresh rate of the two when both are connected. So you will get 1080p144 as long as your laptop’s graphics card supports 144 on HDMI out when you use both at the same time, whereas you could go up to 240 when using only the Samsung as long as that is supported by your laptop’s graphics card. Hope this helps out!
Greetings. If I connect two consoles with different resolution. One console is 4K and the other is 1080p. This device will allow each console to present the images in their respective resolutions without one affecting the other? I want to connect both consoles to the same TV.
Hello. Yes, when you switch inputs each console communicates directly with the TV (reads EDID) and send the appropriate resolution regardless of what the other input (console) has available. The inputs are independent of each other.
Thank you so much for your reply. This product would be excellent for me. I already bought two of them. Thank you again, and success in your channel.
it works with Hue Sync?
If i output 4k VRR to go to my Oled TV , can i downgrade one of the outputs to 1080p60 to go to my old elgato card?
no. you can't get either output to go to any currently available capture device in such an instance. thus, this device solves nothing.
This is incorrect, you can in fact accomplish this, Not with the BK-202A, but you can with either the AVPro Edge AC-SC-1X HDMI 2.1 downscaler form AVPro Edge. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1730084-REG/avpro_edge_ac_sc_1x_40gbps_8k_hdmi.html or the AVPro Edge AC-MX-42X 4x2 HDMI 2.1 matrix with upscaling and downscaling. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1660468-REG/avpro_edge_ac_mx_42x_40gbps_8k60_4x2_hdmi.html Both however are more expensive options.
@@askdrtk so if the PS5 is sending 4K VRR, can one of these boxes normalize the framerate to 60 fps? cuz non of the elgato cards can handle VRR. only 4k60 or 1080p60
Yes, I have the same issue. I have a 4k60 mkii and Cam Link Pro. The AC-MX-42X will do exactly that. Input 4K VRR, Output 1 - 4K VRR and Output 2 - 1080p60 (or even 4K60). This issue is that HDMI 2.1 scalers have been slow in coming and so anything available that actually works is expensive (this solution is $1200usd). We had similar issues when HDMI 2.0 was released and now scalers and switches are affordable. I have a friend that has one of these in a high end gaming "theatre" and does what we are talking about, but I can't recommend this unless cost is not important (I would wait a bit longer as affordable options will likely appear in the next six months). The only remotely affordable option right now to game in VRR and capture would be the Avermedia Live Gamer Extreme 3, and maxing out at 1440p120 VRR, it isn't what we are looking for, but it is VRR play at 1440p120 and capture at 1440p or 1080p60 for $130USD... Hope this helps out. For now, I will be waiting for a more affordable solution to 4K VRR and 4K60 capture.
Can this do 1440p at 120 fps with HDMI 2.1 monitor?
Yes, but it is not a scaler so if you ever want to use two monitors from the same source both will need to support 1440p 120.
how quickly does it switch?
This is not for live video production. Switching time depends on both the resolution and display(s) being used. Expect 1-3 seconds from this box.
how much delay while switching?
It depends on resolution, but around 1 to 1.5 seconds...not meant as a live switcher for recording or streaming.
@@askdrtk ok ... Hope it is not more, Thanks for help
Waiting for 2x4 or 4x4 =(
Definitely would love a 4x4 with audio extraction as well…I think we will see these in 2023 if timelines play out the way HDMI 2.0 rolled out…
NOT SOLVED! it doesn't convert 4K120 or VRRR to 4K60 for capture while gaming at 4K120. How can you say "SOLVED!" ? What does this solve that the HDFury VRROOM didn't already do?
As I indicated in the description, it solves the need for an affordable option to share two 4k120 displays (TV and projector in my case) with two consoles/PCs without having to swap cables allowing either input to be displayed on both outputs or any combination of each input on either output (matrix). The VRROOM is a more capable device, but it is also 4x the price of the BK-202A. Beyond the VRROOM, another option to solve 4K120 on one display while downscaling a second output to 4K60 (and other resolutions) is the AC-SC-1X form AVPro Edge. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1730084-REG/avpro_edge_ac_sc_1x_40gbps_8k_hdmi.html If we want to take things a step further with a 4x2 matrix that supports independent upscaling and downscaling across all HDMI 2.1 supported resolutions including VRR and audio formats on each output from multiple input sources plus audio extraction, the AC-MX-42X from AVPro Edge at $1200 USD is an option www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1660468-REG/avpro_edge_ac_mx_42x_40gbps_8k60_4x2_hdmi.html Hopefully more options with up and downscaling plus audio extraction will be available soon. As with HDMI 2.0, it is taking some time.
Yeah this is exactly what I have been waiting years now to do. I still have to game at 4K60 when I should be gaming at 4K120 VRR just because my capture card needs 4K60.