CRITs need to come up with something like this. Nobody likes driving 4+ hours to a CAT 4/5 race only to get pulled within 7 minutes....I'm not saying that has ever happened to me in my very first crit...LOL but yeah it did.
I like the mindset of the promoter. Its very smart to look at other events outside of cycling and take what works and bring it to gravel ( or other cycling events ) well done. Its good of you to cover this!
It’s a great idea until you come to a huge hill. I’m a heavy rider and it’s a challenge to find flattish rides in Colorado. Everything has huge elevation gains
Hills are part of most gravel races. This one had plenty of hills too. We re-grouped at the top of some of the bigger climbs but overall my riders kept a good pace throughout. The key is choosing the right pace group for your speed.
@@TroyOnTrails aha, so you did regroup. honestly, it would even benefit the good climbers if they could sit in with a big group in the flats. I raced road for years and it's crazy - I can hardly ever find gravel groups willing to work together. roadies know how to sit in!
I was there and rode in no man’s land for most of the race. I averaged 16mph. Not fast enough for the lead group and faster than most so I just ate headwind for hours solo
Gravel bike racing... providing an opportunity for those 'athletes' who aren't fast enough to compete in road or mtb races... Sigh, adding 'racing' to gravel events just kills all the fun. Gravel races should all be 'grand fondo' style EVENTS. Sure, we'll give you a time. But no categories, podiums, or prizes. Just hundreds of riders out having a good time. That's what gravel is MEANT to be... - Since this video is about an event in Oregon, I'll point everyone to the Vicious Cycle gravel series. It's the best gravel series on the planet. 4/5 of the events are truly epic. Several of them hit the 80-90+ mile distance, and 10,000+ of climbing mark. If you finish, you have a sense of accomplishment. Oh, and the bulk of the riding is in the middle of nowhere, on roads you'd never find on your own, with some specactular scenery.
And pace groups would really help gran fondo type events as well. The intimidation factor is the distance and the isolation. And it's fun to have a group of people to ride with. Jake's gran fondos are definitely great events.
@@TroyOnTrails Naaa... I mean, if you need a pace group, do you need a pacifier? Someone to hold your had? A blanky? Or maybe we should just have events called "snowflake rides"...
@@bikebudha01 By your logic, elite marathon runners (Boston, NYC, Chicago, London, etc.) are babies as well. If you don't like the idea of racing with the aid of a pace group, there's no rule saying you have to. This is just a race organizer attempting to bring more people into the sport, so what's wrong with that? And to your previous comment about people who ride gravel aren't fast enough to compete in road or mtb - I completed my first gravel race last month and I've previously been on the podium for 3 different road races.
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Segment races work well like this too...ride with your friends, race the segment and rejoin your friends until the next one.
That could be a fun thing to do too. I do that on group rides with friends but could be fun in a real race scenario for sure.
CRITs need to come up with something like this. Nobody likes driving 4+ hours to a CAT 4/5 race only to get pulled within 7 minutes....I'm not saying that has ever happened to me in my very first crit...LOL but yeah it did.
Crits are brutal.
I like the mindset of the promoter. Its very smart to look at other events outside of cycling and take what works and bring it to gravel ( or other cycling events ) well done. Its good of you to cover this!
Well said! And Thank you.
Good stuff...this is a great approach to the whole thing.
Thanks. I love the idea of welcoming more to the sport.
Great idea to offer a way for folks to try out their first race that feels within their reach. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks. I hope other races adopt this.
Thx. Good inclusive idea!
Glad it was like it!
Asking people to subscribe and like, before getting to the point. I like your bravery.
No risk it, no biscuit! 😜
Hey that’s me! Thanks again Troy!
It was great meeting you and riding a bit with you.
Fantastic idea!
Glad you think so! Thank you.
the only reason ive entered gravel races is to have people around when you ride 300ks. its just a long day to do solo unsupported.
And food stops really help too.
It’s a great idea until you come to a huge hill. I’m a heavy rider and it’s a challenge to find flattish rides in Colorado. Everything has huge elevation gains
Hills are part of most gravel races. This one had plenty of hills too. We re-grouped at the top of some of the bigger climbs but overall my riders kept a good pace throughout. The key is choosing the right pace group for your speed.
@@TroyOnTrails aha, so you did regroup. honestly, it would even benefit the good climbers if they could sit in with a big group in the flats. I raced road for years and it's crazy - I can hardly ever find gravel groups willing to work together. roadies know how to sit in!
Wow, that's a great idea and sounds like fun.
It was!
Love is idea, if you come solo you know you are going to have group to ride with the entire time.
Yeah. As an experienced racer, I kind of like the idea for that. I always end up in no-mans land riding solo.
Pretty neat concept!
Right!?
Fantastic idea!
Glad you think so!
I was there and rode in no man’s land for most of the race. I averaged 16mph. Not fast enough for the lead group and faster than most so I just ate headwind for hours solo
Story of all my gravel races. Leading the pace group was fun as I was never alone (though I led out in the wind all the time)
Great idea
Glad you think so!
Fun idea.
Indeed. Thx.
Not a bad idea how many people took advantage of it .
I think they're were around 40 people.
definitely promotes inclusivity...i know they do this for running events, why not cycling?!
Exactly. Pretty cool that they adopted what works in running and applied it to cycling.
I can't stand videos that bury the lede
Well, I appreciate you clicking through to the video anyway. Thank you.
go to 2:16 for the good stuff. ;-)
Excellent idea btw. Makes me want to be a pace group leader, and propose this to the races in my region.
Thanks. Being a pace leader was a fun experience for sure.
Gravel bike racing... providing an opportunity for those 'athletes' who aren't fast enough to compete in road or mtb races... Sigh, adding 'racing' to gravel events just kills all the fun. Gravel races should all be 'grand fondo' style EVENTS. Sure, we'll give you a time. But no categories, podiums, or prizes. Just hundreds of riders out having a good time. That's what gravel is MEANT to be...
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Since this video is about an event in Oregon, I'll point everyone to the Vicious Cycle gravel series. It's the best gravel series on the planet. 4/5 of the events are truly epic. Several of them hit the 80-90+ mile distance, and 10,000+ of climbing mark. If you finish, you have a sense of accomplishment. Oh, and the bulk of the riding is in the middle of nowhere, on roads you'd never find on your own, with some specactular scenery.
And pace groups would really help gran fondo type events as well. The intimidation factor is the distance and the isolation. And it's fun to have a group of people to ride with. Jake's gran fondos are definitely great events.
@@TroyOnTrails Naaa... I mean, if you need a pace group, do you need a pacifier? Someone to hold your had? A blanky? Or maybe we should just have events called "snowflake rides"...
@@bikebudha01Pace groups sound like a great idea to me! Especially in a new environment, with unfamiliar surroundings.
@@Chipbullit CRYBABY... that's what course markings are for...
@@bikebudha01 By your logic, elite marathon runners (Boston, NYC, Chicago, London, etc.) are babies as well. If you don't like the idea of racing with the aid of a pace group, there's no rule saying you have to. This is just a race organizer attempting to bring more people into the sport, so what's wrong with that? And to your previous comment about people who ride gravel aren't fast enough to compete in road or mtb - I completed my first gravel race last month and I've previously been on the podium for 3 different road races.
Pace groups... dumb. Just drop the 'racing' entirely... (or you know, bring some FRIENDS to do the ride with... like normal people...)
Or as a race promoter, be inclusive and try to grow the sport.
@@TroyOnTrails um, take out the 'racing', more people will show. No race, no pressure, just fun.
@@bikebudha01 racing is fun.
@@tomhughes8472 meh... Not for gravel events.
This is a really awesome idea
I hope it catches on. Thanks for watching.