Amazing Karate Champion vs. Muay Thai Legend (Unexpected Ending)

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    One of the best kyokushin karate fighters, Michael Thompson, faced off against Muay Thai legend Changpuek Kiatsongrit. There are many lessons from this fight.
    Historically, Muay Thai has come out ahead very often against other martial arts. This is especially true in the lower weight classes where most Thai fighters are.
    Changpuek was an exception in that he's a bigger Thai. He was a natural middleweight facing heavyweights around the world. Representing the art of Muay Thai, he came out ahead against many legends, but lost several matches too against bigger opponents.
    In this fight he faced the elite Kyokushin Karateka and dominated the whole fight until he got spin kicked when the bell rang 3rd round.
    Not sure how I feel about this one.
    Seeing Chanpuek sad makes me sad, but it is war you do have to be ready at all times. So much lessons to learn from history. What are your thoughts?
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  • @LawrenceKenshin
    @LawrenceKenshin  5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    One of the best kyokushin karate fighters, Michael Thompson, faced off against Muay Thai legend Changpuek Kiatsongrit. There are many lessons from this fight.
    Historically, Muay Thai has come out ahead very often against other martial arts. This is especially true in the lower weight classes where most Thai fighters are.
    Changpuek was an exception in that he's a bigger Thai. He was a natural middleweight facing heavyweights around the world. Representing the art of Muay Thai, he came out ahead against many legends, but lost several matches too against bigger opponents.
    In this fight he faced the elite Kyokushin Karateka and dominated the whole fight until he got spin kicked when the bell rang 3rd round.
    Not sure how I feel about this one.
    Seeing Chanpuek sad makes me sad, but it is war you do have to be ready at all times. So much lessons to learn from history. What are your thoughts?
    If you enjoy my content, please consider checking out my free book preview on legendary technique (60 pages): www.LegendaryStriking.com
    I write about Changpuek's techniques at length in my book. He really showcased that Muay Thai is effective despite a big size difference in most fights.

    • @dazw3884
      @dazw3884 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Brilliant analysis as usual bruv

    • @deadarmd
      @deadarmd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You highlight one of the benefits of karate. Wonder if he had ever seen a spinning attack at the bell like that. I suppose you can list the downfalls of point fighting against a MT guy. (usually murder). It does sort of encapsulate karate's creativity and strike diversity. Even though it is a somewhat common kick it happened without punches to start it, and he times it perfectly. Timing. Karate's answer to "cheap"

    • @deadarmd
      @deadarmd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And this is just an add on. As I was writing this comment your video played again and I happened to blink while typing. I missed the kick and it looked like he just fell at the bell :0

    • @LawrenceKenshin
      @LawrenceKenshin  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dazw3884 thank you bro, have you checked out my book preview? would love to hear your thoughts

    • @LawrenceKenshin
      @LawrenceKenshin  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@deadarmd karate can be great

  • @jabeltre1
    @jabeltre1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Not every lesson need to be about striking, some lessons should be about being ready.

    • @LawrenceKenshin
      @LawrenceKenshin  5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      yes its true

    • @tonybuk70
      @tonybuk70 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lesson No 2.... everybody is sometimes blessed with luck (good and bad)

    • @xyaeiounn
      @xyaeiounn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The real lesson might be about confidence being a guess, humility being required because one well-placed blow can drop anyone.

    • @falconknowledgey
      @falconknowledgey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's not luck, he intended to kick and cause damage so it's not luck. It's what they call the element of surprise and it worked.

    • @tonybuk70
      @tonybuk70 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@falconknowledgey
      i tried to throw a double six and i threw a double six (on the 15th try). so i guess that wasnt luck either?

  • @mineutd
    @mineutd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    That's a fair fight and Congrat to Karate man........ From Thailand.

  • @schuletrip
    @schuletrip 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    All previous spinning kicks were from
    orthodox and the killer kick came from Southpaw.

    • @andrewbolen2100
      @andrewbolen2100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      thx, thought i'd be the only one to say anything. Not sure why he was even throwing the spinning back kick from orthodox when facing a southpaw, they never work cuz the angle. ALWAYS throw straight spin kicks towards the rear hand, you get so much more space and a much broader surface area of the sternum.

    • @TheOwlol
      @TheOwlol 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@andrewbolen2100
      Could it be to condition him to not expect coming from the left leg?

    • @andrewbolen2100
      @andrewbolen2100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheOwlol I don't think so tbh. I mean, which ever way you spin is the way the attack comes from, it's not exactly a question mark kick. If it was planned, that's a lot of risk to incur, showing your back frequently. A better example would be jon jones vs dc. Conditioned with a teap kicks and round kicks to the leg, relatively safe and it eventually got dc to drop his hands to set up the high kick, same side, same initial motion. I really do think it was a corner correction, coaches get pissed at southpaws and switch stance fighters cuz it messes up their classes. It's really hard to get people to train jab lead hook combos when the stances are opposed. They end up relying on pairing them with other southpaws and ask you not to switch stances so that way you can drill the class homogeneously. Most of the time opposed stances never get trained, It's thoroughly irritated me over the years XD

    • @TheOwlol
      @TheOwlol 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewbolen2100 I dont have personal experience with kyokushin, but in other karate styles I have trained in it's always practising both sides.

    • @andrewbolen2100
      @andrewbolen2100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheOwlol Then you are lucky :D, especially if you trained both stances against both stances. It's very common not to do so where I am from, that includes boxing, kick boxing, muay thai and seibukai karate. One exception that I've come across is taekwondo fighters tend to do better from their switch stance. (P.s. I'm assuming you meant both sides as in practicing your switch stance from your dominant hand i.e. there are "4" ways to throw a spinning back kick, lead leg from south paw, lead leg from orthodox, rear leg from south paw and rear leg from orthodox.) Almost all places I go to almost exclusively train rear leg from dominant stance and lead leg from dominant stance and typically don't have many opportunities to learn the dynamics of them when face with an opposed stance opponent.

  • @popacasian-vian6986
    @popacasian-vian6986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    After 7 years of Thai Box I understand that we have problems with covering long distances. Almost all forms of karate have this covered up very well. Thai Box makes you rugged and confrontational which is great for adults but not for children. I would prefer my children to practice Karate until 14-16 years old and after to get in to Thai Box. Also the high guard what is traditionally used in Thai Box is really inefficient against side kicks to the body. In Thai Box almost all kicks ( except front kick) are placed after a combination or when the opponent is very static.Karate is focused on more dynamic situations. I wouldn’t change Thai Box for Kyokushin because of the head punches....I had sparings with experienced kyokushin practitioneers and they were not used in getting punched in the head, most of the time they realized that this are two different sports....I also feelt out of my domain when i was not allowed to punch them in the head.

    • @yongjiean9980
      @yongjiean9980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Muaithai seems to have the impression that whoever has the stronger body wins or predominates.
      True - Kyokushin has no face punches but they condition their knuckles to punch in fights and not overrelying on gloves. Most K1 fighters are Kyokushin or Seidokaikan karate fighters. The key is adapt and calibrate! From body punch to face punches - that is all.

    • @radhinblitzahmed
      @radhinblitzahmed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol, Muay Thai has a defense for side kicks or any linear attacks. Just crunch your body back a bit or step back.

    • @popacasian-vian6986
      @popacasian-vian6986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yongjiean9980 but almost all K1 champions are coming from Muaythai or kickboxing. Kyokushin is very good, except they do not have head movement as a consequence of limited tehnicks for that.

    • @thesecretlibrary890
      @thesecretlibrary890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@popacasian-vian6986 What are you, a Greek?

    • @i.shavinda3547
      @i.shavinda3547 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yongjiean9980 kyokushin has head puches

  • @ChrisDeVera1982
    @ChrisDeVera1982 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    The karateka conditioned the Thai fighter w open stance BackKicks for 2 rounds, and then switched to a closed stance backKick

    • @LawrenceKenshin
      @LawrenceKenshin  5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      yes, attacking the open side

    • @ChrisDeVera1982
      @ChrisDeVera1982 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He planted on the bell n turn kicked a split second after. Looks n sounds like a fair kick in the vid. but it’s an older vid, maybe some acoustic drag, but still pretty inconsequential inside the ring, gta be ready at all times

    • @yourboyvic
      @yourboyvic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The conditioning is the key absolutely agree. The highlighted kicks in and 1 and 2 and right legged kicks. The stance change is noticed but the conditioning keeps the Thai moving forward. I might say the kick is a little low but the ref was a lot closer and deemed it okay. So deliberately giving confidence and then unleashing the left kick was the game plan and it worked. Good job karateka

  • @RespectEnVy
    @RespectEnVy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    1. No one is invinsible. It always only takes one strike by anyone to end a fight.
    2. Although there are the obvious more effective martial arts (Muay Thai, BJJ, etc.), most martial arts have something to offer. At minimal, one should learn how to defend against many multiple styles, if not actually learn the teqchniue itself.
    3. Always be ready, even if you are dominating.
    Mr. Lawrence...you are the man

    • @LawrenceKenshin
      @LawrenceKenshin  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      agreed.
      thank you for the support bro, have you gotten the chance to check out my new book preview at www.legendarystriking.com ? Would love to hear your thoughts.

    • @Xenamos
      @Xenamos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No one is invisible, youre right

    • @TwistedSoul2002
      @TwistedSoul2002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But to a blind man- everyone is invisible...

  • @zoze
    @zoze 5 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    The round started, Michael changed stance and caught Changpuek by surprise. Some say it's not fair play, but the bell rang, and that is all we need to justify it.

    • @LawrenceKenshin
      @LawrenceKenshin  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      i can see it from that perspective, what about honor ?

    • @bluedirtgreen
      @bluedirtgreen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@LawrenceKenshin this is a sport with rules. following the rules is not dishonorable.

    • @chungniem9494
      @chungniem9494 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@bluedirtgreen like when fighters go to touch gloves and get ko'd. It's dirty, but no rules were broken.

    • @bluedirtgreen
      @bluedirtgreen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@chungniem9494 the ref has the fighters touch gloves before the fight begins. fake glove touch or not, it is not dishonorable to follow the rules. being tricked isn't the same as being cheated. some people are just more competitive. that's not dishonorable.

    • @davydtaylor4151
      @davydtaylor4151 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lawrence Kenshin I wouldn’t want to win like that. He tried that kick multiple times before and had no joy. He then chose to drop it in behind a glove touch. Murthel Groenhart knocked Hariat Grigorian out from behind, he was within the rules but freely admitted it was not sportsmanlike. Turning your back because you are overwhelmed is obviously a different matter. Floyd knocked Ortiz out after an apology but most excepted his response because Ortiz instigated the whole thing with a head butt. The rules are a minimum requirement!!

  • @KruTerry
    @KruTerry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Like you said, seeing Changpuek loose was hard because I love him for the legend he is (and many thanks to you for helping spread that legend!) but that was a beautiful kick and while it may seem early, you always have to be ready. Thank you again for sharing a bit of history that should not be forgotten and, as with most of your videos I will be using it to watch fights I’ve never heard of before. :)

    • @LawrenceKenshin
      @LawrenceKenshin  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hanks so much for the support. I really do love changpuek. glad i can help people appreciate his history.
      have you gotten the chance to check out my new book preview at www.legendarystriking.com?

    • @KruTerry
      @KruTerry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lawrence Kenshin not yet, I saw your video while on break at work, but when I get home I’ll definitely give it a read!

  • @jettfuelfitness
    @jettfuelfitness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I appreciate you posting this because it really shows your transparency, willing to showcase times where Muay Thai didn’t come out on top. Very honest, excellent stuff

    • @johnboylan3832
      @johnboylan3832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well it was Changpeuk who didn't come out on top, not Muay Thai.

  • @lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop
    @lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When the bell goes so do you, the ding ding noise means go doesn't mean get ready to fight.
    The karateka being ready to go on the bell is not bad sportsmanship, runners for example specifically train their reaction time to the starting pistol to improve performance.
    It may not have fit how the Thai fighter expected the round to start, but that doesn't make speed or striking first unfair.

  • @Miguel-cc4gn
    @Miguel-cc4gn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sweet! He kept throwing the spinning kick to his opponents right side(leg, body) for two rounds, opened up the third with a spin kick that his opponent expected to go once again to the right side(opponent lifts his lead right leg to defend)but spin kick went to the left side this time, devastating body kick!! Nice!!!

  • @thuyhadao2548
    @thuyhadao2548 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Kenshi , I love your informative and genius breakdowns, keep up the good work. Can I ask you something, is there another way to buy the saenchai ebook besides using the Visa card because my Visa card has recently been hacked so I am avoiding at my best not to use the Visa card

  • @andreacampana4754
    @andreacampana4754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It was a surprise attack. Being smart and aware is a fundamental skill for a fighter, it was well executed and the timing was perfect. Great shot!

  • @superyaourth
    @superyaourth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The bell rings, the fight starts... nothing else to say. Perfect timing.

  • @naveennidhurshan6939
    @naveennidhurshan6939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Victory and loss should be tolerated. There is no shame in losing if you had done it with your best performance. Respect for both of them.

  • @Toulouse41000
    @Toulouse41000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think the Muay Thai fighter got overconfident after dominating the first 2 rounds, he rushed him thinking he's the best and got punished for it. Never underestimate your opponent is the lesson I think

  • @johndouglass3691
    @johndouglass3691 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That kick was early, but not illegally early...sneaky, but within the rules. A lucky shot, but a damn good one, and a win. There's no shame in winning, no matter how it's done.
    Was there a rematch?

    • @patmat7984
      @patmat7984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lucky kick? Ura yoko Geri is not about luck.....

  • @gritglory298
    @gritglory298 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best spin kicks I've seen..what precision and power

  • @TMJ21
    @TMJ21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Historically, karate fighters can pull this off. In this modern era where Muay Thai has immensely improved, karate fighters think twice before stepping into the ring with the Thais.

  • @hiphopheadspodcast
    @hiphopheadspodcast 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting video, both were coming in at the start of the round, now I could be wrong... But on the last spin kick did he spin opposite of the way he had been kicking prior?

    • @LawrenceKenshin
      @LawrenceKenshin  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you for the support bro. yes he came out southpaw to attack the bigger open side

    • @hiphopheadspodcast
      @hiphopheadspodcast 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LawrenceKenshin very genius move. Amazing breakdown as always.

  • @larissadequeiroz9280
    @larissadequeiroz9280 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    bom canal sempre lutas interessantes!

  • @JetEngine85
    @JetEngine85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "protect yourselves at all times"

  • @vosluc7991
    @vosluc7991 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So interesting how Thompson (possibly) set Kiatsongrit up. Even in these highlights, you can see Thompson using his spinning back kick to the right side 3-5 times. When the bell rings, you see Kiatsongrit lifts his right leg, presumably to check it and expecting the kick to come from the other side.

  • @user-rz7ih2vh1c
    @user-rz7ih2vh1c 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    He was not ready for those kind of strikes. I trained with MT guys and non of them are expecting that this can be fight ending strike. Thats just question of pattern recognition and threat recognition. They dont, they dont use it. If they will be taught this - 100% it will enter regular used kick. As karateka you learn to respect and fear ushiro geri, you never really can just suffer it. Yes they learned after one hit. But in that case - one hit was all that was needed. Previous spinning kicks are other strikes in technique - ushiro mawashi geri, round strikes.
    Head looking sideways during punches is legitiamte critique to kyokushin. Not used to boxing game at all. It isnt looking like Thompson was used to kickboxing at all at this time.
    There is no glove touch in kyokushin (and there is no gloves), once you go close, you fight. Instinct and survival reactions probably erased boxing etiquette. No kidding with who he faced.

  • @the_famous_reply_guy
    @the_famous_reply_guy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfectly timed intercept and stance change. Get these 2 right and you have a skill.

  • @getawayz1
    @getawayz1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have never seen a KO to the solar/mid section like that before. Timed impeccably.

  • @sincerechristine508
    @sincerechristine508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Defense yourself at all time and never underestimate the opponent, it's very true.

  • @streampunksheep
    @streampunksheep 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This didn't need to be 5 minutes, but the extensive clips are worth the watch.

  • @stalwartservant4063
    @stalwartservant4063 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two words come To mind, Perfect execution

  • @nvanguy6868
    @nvanguy6868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Michael
    Thompson is famous in kyokushin for his spin kicks, one of the best ever at this technique he scored many kos

  • @khalil4835
    @khalil4835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The conditioning in kyokushin is so hardcore it's beyond human,the clinch the elbows the knees are the best weapons in muay thai,from someone who do both I suggest you mix them together.

  • @agungmelania6576
    @agungmelania6576 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good timing...respect

  • @DiabloDon
    @DiabloDon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If there was a rematch, I am pretty sure that the Muay Thai fighter would have came out as a winner! But credit to the Katateka. He was concentrated on the spot.

  • @MrTxawjcoj
    @MrTxawjcoj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Protect yourself at all times! Enough said... fair and square win.

  • @mmatechniques2687
    @mmatechniques2687 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many pages has your new book got?

  • @Z4U3398
    @Z4U3398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think Changpuek wasn't alert but rather, he has already developed a preacquired notion that his opponent throws a spinning back kick with his right leg only, as evident in the first 2 rounds. And then? Suddenly, with an acute element of surprise just as the third round bell went off, out came a left leg spinning hook kick. That sent himself spinning like a top.
    Can't imagine how intense the pain must be to be on the receiving end of a full bodyweight spinning back kick like that. This time, long range kick wins. There's a fight between Kwonkicker & a muay thai fighter where the Thai fighter got knocked out in the same fashion. Never assume your opponent can't do Jack shit from afar.

  • @paulwilkinson8977
    @paulwilkinson8977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brutal. Poor dude. Must have felt HORRIBLE afterwards, knowing how close he was to a dominant win. Props to the karateka for utilizing his biggest advantage imo.

  • @theBartasTLP
    @theBartasTLP 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Missed spin kicks were with right leg to the outside, and the one that landed was left leg to the inside. Anyone also noticed?

  • @BDUB-vo6pl
    @BDUB-vo6pl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One other thing to note is all his previous spinning kick attacks were with his right where the third round body shot KO came from a left spinning kick...

  • @nocsm1701
    @nocsm1701 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    🌏 I really love your analyzis.

    • @LawrenceKenshin
      @LawrenceKenshin  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you for the support bro, have you gotten the chance to check out my new book preview at www.legendarystriking.com ? Would love to hear your thoughts.

    • @nocsm1701
      @nocsm1701 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not, yet, but I will when I'm free. I'm your big fan.

  • @johnnymathew3422
    @johnnymathew3422 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is long time ago!!!

  • @peterjeck5938
    @peterjeck5938 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Very smart I think his corner made this plan

  • @adolfo33
    @adolfo33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thompson adjusted his strategy, he used the ushiro geri from the southpaw stance, up until that moment at least from the footage shown the kick came from an orthodox stance, by changing the stance the body of kiatsongrit was exposed and there is also another important point , he attacked at the beginning of the round where a kick like that is less expected.

  • @timothymarshall2365
    @timothymarshall2365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I guess I trained at strange Karate dojos. We always had hand contact to the face. If you don't know how to get hit, you will never learn to react properly. Yes, it's been mostly traditional Okinawan karate (Shorin Ryu and Goju Ryu).
    Thoughts on the spinning back kick? It broke ribs, no way around it. That will always work!

  • @guruhsugiharto6600
    @guruhsugiharto6600 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    like mc gregor said, timing beats speed and precision beats power..

  • @MrJRW1
    @MrJRW1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This type of thing can be tough for a fighter to swallow. Losing always sucks. Someone is going to lose, one way, or another. There can only be one winner. Part of what makes martial arts so fun to watch is because you never know what might happen. The bell rang. The timing of that kick was perfect.

  • @6431arshad
    @6431arshad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to see that this channel is not biased only to the muay thai lmfao. Good one lawrence

    • @LawrenceKenshin
      @LawrenceKenshin  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got dropped 3 time by a featherweight lol cheers

  • @chonglekfoong5420
    @chonglekfoong5420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many of the karateka's spinning back kicks early in the fight were with the right leg, which the Muay Thai practitioner countered by raising right knee. But, the knock out kick was with the left leg, so the strike slipped by the defending right knee.

  • @amc9301
    @amc9301 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please makes breakdowns of more muay Thai used in MMA!!! There are strong kickers like Thiago Álvares, anderson Silva on earlly fights, José Aldo in WEC and you can also breakdown fighters of earlly years of UFC for a more pure muay Thai(not mixed). Thks

    • @LawrenceKenshin
      @LawrenceKenshin  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      André Martini Carpi will look into it

  • @carlbrewer4598
    @carlbrewer4598 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like it good timing

  • @kellyfrankie0331
    @kellyfrankie0331 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You must always be ready to protect yourself before and after the bell.

  • @utubeskreename9516
    @utubeskreename9516 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crazy to think that was AN ACTUAL KO BLOW DIRECTLY INTO THE STOMACH -- not the kidney/liver, ribs, or solar plexus. That's so extremely rare, at the top levels of full contact fighting I had to rewatch multiple times, to make sure.

  • @ingongoyama3995
    @ingongoyama3995 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    got him use to the orthodox stance then immediately went lefty in the thiird and attacked hard and quickly before he could adjust. Great plan and perfect execution.

  • @c.galindo9639
    @c.galindo9639 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Caught off guard pure and simple. He didn’t expect a quick start and especially from a kick like that. He took a split second off his guard and paid the price

  • @arnsho2606
    @arnsho2606 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was there a round 4? 😆
    Though a passionate fan of Muay Thai I nonetheless gave a like to this video because of your analysis. Kudos.

  • @purewoody1623
    @purewoody1623 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    protect yourselves at all times

  • @dychoi28
    @dychoi28 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a turning side kick. The power is delivered in a straight line after a turn. Spinning kicks deliver power in a circular motion. It's important to understand the difference between turning and spinning kicks and not use the terms interchangeably. They look similar but are different weapons.

  • @russdenshuick7622
    @russdenshuick7622 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    To all the people calling bias. You’re surprised that this channel is more in favor of muythai? That’s your fault. Opinions on styles are just that, opinions. I’m sure all of you saying this are fair and just and unbiased with all things.

  • @01adkm
    @01adkm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the ring never let ur eyes away from ur opponent. Never

  • @dpav7994
    @dpav7994 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's no rule that says "only light punches and kicks right at the bell", the reason it was a knock out is because he walked into it and absorbed the full impact. If he was waiting for the bell to finish he would have stood still. My point is, the bell rang and they were both engaging, Thompson was just faster.

  • @smokeclouds8
    @smokeclouds8 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the new text.

  • @antonioabel9870
    @antonioabel9870 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a matter of perfect timing and the right moment of execution.In this aspect,the kyokushin man has the upperhand. It also depends on who makes the fitst mistake.This is a good example of timing and precision.

  • @batsiepielen1077
    @batsiepielen1077 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    legit strat, muay thai guy got caught off guard.

  • @teoyap6827
    @teoyap6827 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It show that nor matter how tough and good you are as a martial artist, you just can't afforded not to be on guard when you are fighting in a world class championship.
    If it's not for that kick , the thai could have won the third round easily but like i say, it's just one good solid turning back kick that count! Thanks for this video! Appreciate it very much.

  • @TheHybridHunter307
    @TheHybridHunter307 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome turning back kick, great timing, even greater game plan!!!!

  • @jaketen2001
    @jaketen2001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marching forward like that has its risks. Sometimes you crowd out strikes. I think that spinning kick came from a different direction? Was a bit of a surprise. In a sport where you are throwing kicks, if you go inside that range right when the bell starts, well.

  • @jeanlucgatoh
    @jeanlucgatoh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    as john danaher said in joe rogans podcast, the spinning sidekick is one of the most effective techniques from the traditional matial arts

  • @TwistedSoul2002
    @TwistedSoul2002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Never take your eyes off your opponent- even when you bow.”

  • @steviefoster5512
    @steviefoster5512 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He switched stance before the Muay Thai guy had time to figure it out the spining back kick out right to solar plexus dropped him ... ive seen this guy Changpuek Kietsongrit break legs in the ring, look at what his low kicks did to Roufus' legs... is the guy in kickboxer that was kicking tree trunks and concrete blocks based off this fighter?

  • @VileScarMind
    @VileScarMind 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The back kicks that were defended against were all thrown with the right foot. This is sub-optimal against a southpaw as the kick is coming at the close side and less likely to land flush. As an orthodox fighter Thomson can throw that without switching. The KO kick was thrown with the left foot with Thomsom starting in a southpaw stance. That means the kick is entering the open side of the opponent, more likely to land flush and has more distance to land, helping prevent it being closed down. Throwing this off the bell helped avoid telegraphing it with a stance switch.

  • @faizalar8637
    @faizalar8637 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a good strike on perfect time, based on brilliance calculation

  • @dragb6281
    @dragb6281 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    MT need to learn something to deal with spin kick. Wangchalong ko by Tenshin and Singdam also.

  • @mickpreljevic6120
    @mickpreljevic6120 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    muay thai is my favourite. But this kyokushin karate is also brutal. I'll rather be watching than fighting.

  • @chaichao1986
    @chaichao1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did they ever had a rematch?

  • @driver3899
    @driver3899 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Protect yourself at all times.

  • @DennisAlexioAndyHug
    @DennisAlexioAndyHug 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fire Pro MMA ... CRITICAL ! that's what that reminded me of. Great game BTW first video game with MMA in it

  • @sincerechristine508
    @sincerechristine508 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's tricky but no illegal, still in the fight time, to win the stronger.

  • @Je_suis_Jefe
    @Je_suis_Jefe 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lucky hit. As a kickboxer and thai boxer practitioner i can say that the traditional Thai stance is a little square and static. That is why love Sanchai style, he is unpredictable and dynamic.

  • @WanluandhisPuppets
    @WanluandhisPuppets 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well timed kick that caught the Thai fighter off guard. It does not make MuayThai less effective than Karate. Even the best fighters in the world lose... only to fight again another day and try to redeem themselves... and they often do

  • @glentight
    @glentight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Changpuek seemed not to catch the switch in stance to commence the round, he reacted with the same lead knee raise that defended the spinning attack easily, as showcased in this edit.
    If the referee was positioned on th opposite side of the fighters, forcing Thompson to spin in the opposite direction, the lead knee would have been inside, and diffused the attack.
    Changpuek did defend, as he had been all fight..
    My opinion is that was either an underestimation of opponent by Changpuek, as he was dominating, Or an exceptional tactic by Thompson, showing the same spinning attack mutiple times to condition a response, then playing into the conditioned response with a variation.
    The timing is significant, although this could have come at any time, the stance switch was obscured by both the referee and the fighters closing distance.

  • @AABradyKK
    @AABradyKK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if he was planning on touching gloves?
    But yea, he blocked with the wrong leg. It was a left spinning kick rather than the right spinning kick he'd been throwing the whole match. Got em auto-pilot mode methinks.

  • @miketyson5249
    @miketyson5249 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Lawrence,
    I heared about a fighter out there, threating the lifes of his opponents. He might be the best fighter to ever step into the ring/octagon. Could you make a video about him? His name is Artem 'THE GOAT' Lobov.

  • @bradbuckinghamhandsomeprin6027
    @bradbuckinghamhandsomeprin6027 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the spinning back kick or the spinning heel kick are great if timed for a counter as the other guy is coming in. However if the other guy isn't coming in with something when you throw it, it's just a waste of energy and your lucky if you don't get hit after your opponent dodges your fancy kick.

  • @unlimitedwealth1
    @unlimitedwealth1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did they ever have a rematch

  • @bochanduanya58
    @bochanduanya58 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Defend yourself at all times

  • @pierrebattermann3747
    @pierrebattermann3747 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a in between rounds advice from the corner that made it possible. It seems you didn't point out the fact that he changed guard and throw the left spinning back kick instead of the right one? The thai fighter was blocking the kicks because against a south paw a right spinning back kick will very often miss the target. His corner must have noticed that he is blocking with his knee and shin, which left him open for a southpaw to southpaw spinning back kick (the trajectory of the kick will go around the lifted leg). That kick is really powerful and when landed clean, often results to a TKO. In between the rounds, I think his corner told him to start off switching stance and do a spinning back kick (it is harder to do in the middle of the fight if the fighter isn't able to fight both stances) so he changed gard, kicked, landed and won :) If i am right and it indeed was a corner advice, it was a genious one!

  • @akeefe72
    @akeefe72 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That era also had a lot of fixed fights in Japan. Curious that one spinning back kick could take out such a tough fighter. Often a heavy turn back kick has the fighter crumpling and crouched forward, with broken ribs your natural instinct is usually not to flop up and open. Took a dive...?

    • @LawrenceKenshin
      @LawrenceKenshin  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh it def landed very hard tho.

    • @kimkatsu1453
      @kimkatsu1453 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had the same thought. That is just not how you react to the kick. In fact i had to watch first seconds of the video several times because i thought he got kicked in the head and i just couldn't see the strike. More so, he wasn't swept away with the power of the kick, you can see him being in balance and standing longer than it would be otherwise. And then falling on his own.
      Yeah, he pretty much took a dive. Hope the money is worth it.

  • @mythbuster1483
    @mythbuster1483 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big fan of Lawrence's videos! On this technique, although I love the spinning back kick (and have a sharp one myself!), this looks like a lucky shot. Any decent striker has a 'puncher's chance' of knocking out an opponent, but if these guys fought 10 times it looks like the Thai would've easily won 9 out of 10. Taking 10 leg kicks to deliver one spinning back kick is generally a really bad idea. In this case he won, and good for him, but it's not a good long-term strategy.

    • @jb9006
      @jb9006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Myth Buster Wasn’t exactly lucky, he switched stances right before the kick to throw the spinning back kick with the opposite foot that he had used the rest of the fight. The Muay Thai guy had no idea it was coming from that side.

    • @kesenaememere8520
      @kesenaememere8520 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jb9006 facts

  • @peterbenjaminmusic
    @peterbenjaminmusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my experience, and in watching the masters in MMA and kickboxing, the spinning back is best thrown when the opponent is closing distance- exactly when the leg that normally defends against it is being used to step forward. In this sense, it may take a few rounds to get such an exact timing execution to land cleanly- although I'm not sure that's what accounts for this particular knockout. Valentina Shevchenko is perhaps the best spinning side/back kicker right now in terms of her ability to throw it without telegraph, although Barboza and MacGregor (among some others) are very good.

  • @datguy9408
    @datguy9408 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Having a legit spinning back kick is no joke, I used to have one myself and it was the most feared attack anyone would come across.
    Especially if you know how to use it at the right moments.
    Wish I learned Muay Thai more later after Karate honestly, but being great at that later in life is a young kids game along with boxing.

    • @LawrenceKenshin
      @LawrenceKenshin  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      spin kick is great

    • @datguy9408
      @datguy9408 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lawrence Kenshin most definitely, a lot of style points too.

    • @lizyaboi._7652
      @lizyaboi._7652 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the move that once made me lose on my first kickboxing match

  • @brianscraper7433
    @brianscraper7433 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t think there’s a grey area on this. The round had begun. It wasn’t like offering to touch gloves, then kick instead. He just took advantage of his opponent’s lazy approach. I’ve seen a lot of Thais fight this way. I think it is to impress upon the judges how effortless the fight is for them. The highlight of Thompson’s head kick is a good example. The Thai reaches to catch it from his cross-hand, but a touch too slow and the kick partially lands. On a side note, those ropes are dangerously slack! They shouldn’t be flying through them that easily. Where did this fight take place?

  • @dandavies5100
    @dandavies5100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't see a problem, protect yourself at all times

  • @guugoal1943
    @guugoal1943 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He took a dive. If you’ve watched enough MMA fights and ever seen someone go down from a KO body shot, the typical response is usually to clutch / cover the injury since it’s very painful and drop in a protective fetal position. From what I can see it looks like Kiatsongrit copied Bald Bull’s KO animation from Punch Out.

    • @mikethomas6051
      @mikethomas6051 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      My thought aswell, fake as fuck k.o

  • @AhesTheDre
    @AhesTheDre 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    worth of a rematch... :)

  • @garymartin557
    @garymartin557 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    it was an intelligent move. he had been dominated throughout the fight, he tried spinning kicks in the traditional karate sense, but due to the length of time they are in the air, an elite fighter easily defends them. when the bell rang the unorthodox technique used by spinning and then extending the leg into a straight strike worked. after two rounds of being conditioned to traditional spinning kicks the strike which ended the fight was unexpected. maybe you could argue that touching gloves before the final round should have happened as a mark of respect for your opponent, but you should also protect yourself at all times as when the bell rings competition is started.

    • @LawrenceKenshin
      @LawrenceKenshin  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for the thoughtful comment bro

  • @welcometophysicalfitnessho4671
    @welcometophysicalfitnessho4671 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Karate player in 1st&2nd round trying to spin kicks by using only right leg,but no use..but in the 3rd round he used left spin kick that is success

  • @bijukalita5949
    @bijukalita5949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good kick and

  • @lachezarkrastev7123
    @lachezarkrastev7123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This spin kick was started in the exact moment of the bell...

  • @baraths.p6181
    @baraths.p6181 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    As I am a karate fighter it was a nice kick