I have one very similar to this one, I got a 1 inch thick, closed cell foam pad to sit on, big difference. I use yellow foam practice golf balls for scupper drain plugs, works great, very dry boat.
Mine came with a seat bottom , and scupper plugs I payed all said and done 235 after tax at tractor supply. I Love it I go 240 lbs and everyone said it wasn’t the right kayak for me do to my weight .but so far so good .
Me and my friend just bought that exact kayak the lady we got it from had those back plugs cocked up and the front plugs open. We took them out on the Huron River and they did pretty good every now and then the wind would blow us around but we got the hang of it and our middle compartment right between the legs didn't get any water in I have no idea why yours did and we didn't have no water around their butt. I would definitely get those plugs you were talking about and seal up the holes where you sitand to be on the safe side get some plugs for the front but have them removable in case water gets in it can drain out easier.
Thank you for doing this honest review. I was considering buying one of these but unfortunately getting ass soaked is not my idea of enjoying spending time on the water in this kayak.
I had done alot of research and today I pulled the trigger, brought home 2 of these kayaks. The local TSC was running a sell, $100 off so I got them for $200 a piece, feeling pretty good about it. Gonna take one out on my buddys pond tomorrow. The foam golf balls are a great idea to plug the holes, I hadn't thought of that. So they came with a title waiting to be filled out, I was curious about the drain plugs on the top in the very front and the very back, do those holes double for navigation lights? I think they would fit but idk. I bought one for me, for sure, and the other for any friend I can drag along. Planning on customizing mine, have seen alot of cool mods on TH-cam
Iv’e read so many reviews on the instability, bad tracking and that it does not stay straight when you stop paddling But i’m watching this and seeing that it appears to be operator problems or the quality of the molds are not consistent when being built. Quite often when a test model is sent to someone to demonstrate, they put more effort in the quality and focus on that specific one and test it. This is in any product ever made. That particular one HAS TO BE PERFECT. The one you are using looks like it performs very well. Great video.
I paddle one of these in the gulf of Mexico, stability has been just fine. As for staying straight when stopped, kinda sound like a pipe dream, if you aren't directing the kayak, the wind and current will.
I sealed the storage areas on mine. The one in front of the seat fills with water even after plugging the rear scuppers. I think the lid is the issue. Just got a dry box instead.
The marine sealant is a good idea. However, you will need to do the same for everything screwed onto the hull such as the rod holders, shock cord cleats, drain plugs, etc. This will go far to keep the water out of the hull. I also got tired of sitting on the scupper holes, so I got a stadium seat and mounted it such that my bum is now about 3 inches above the scupper holes allowing the water to flow in and out as needed. Enjoy. If you want to use scupper plugs, the best are those from Sun Dolphin.
Rodney Hamilton ..Thanks for the info Rodney. I'm currently working on adding a seat to mine. I found a solution to the scupper holes. I used some foam golf practice balls to plug the holes and is working great.
I mounted a stadium seat to a small plastic foot stool that a cut down to about 3 inches in height. I then counted the stool to the kayak. Here are some pics in my google account: plus.google.com/u/0/photos/103327074932058268146/album/6312206411649585665/6312206410032808962?authkey=COr2yYvs-6DVWg
Great video! I've been looking at getting a smaller sit on top kayak than my ascend 12 footer which is a great fishing kayak, very stable for a 6'2 person like myself, but loading it on top of my jeep isn't all that fun. But this kayak you reviewed and tried out, I'm thinking it might be what I've been looking for. Thanks again!
If you tuck that string in on the dry storage in between your legs = no water.. make sure your cap is on correctly. Never ever had a problem with that compartment.
Thanks. I have been on the fence, but for what I will do with it, I think it will be perfect for the value. Hopefully will pick mine up tomorrow after work and put it in the water Sat. morning!
It is awesome! Took it on a lake first, cause I am 6'2". Great day, then the Middle Oconee RIver, which was awesome, then on the Broad river with some decent rapids, 4-5' drops. Hell of a lot of fun! Could not be more pleased!
That's great ! ! I did add a cheap seat with a high back that I bought at academy sports. It was $7 and has a high back. It actually fits perfectly and I didn't have to screw it into the kayak. I did however have to cut an oval cut in the front part of the seat so I could still have access to the small storage compartment in the front of the seat. I will probably do another vid to show people how I did that. I also plugged the holes with foam golf balls which worked so much better than the scupper plugs the sporting goods sell. I also added some tie off anchor points to it for my anchor. I plan on a few more modifications... Glad you like the kayak
I wish they would totally skip the tow compartment. No one uses it so they could put that wasted money back into the Kayak. For instance they could use more rivets on it instead of wood screws or an umbrella holder or a better seat or just about anything instead of that useless compartment
I just bought this kayak as my third, my first two being sit in kayaks. I took it out Sunday - not as stable as my sit in fishing kayaks - narrower and you sit higher up on the water. I was a little disappointed in how it tracked, as it would turn shortly after I quit paddling - and this was on a smooth as glass lake. The wet rear bothered me too, so I will definitely be getting plugs and some sort of seat. I want to like it, but it is making it very hard. Any encouragement is welcomed.
See I also have 2 sit in kayaks but I found this one to be more stable than my other 2. Maybe because those have more of a v bottom. I did buy some scupper plugs but they didn't work. I then saw a youtube video where a guy used some practice golf balls to plug the holes. I actually had some in my garage so I tried them and they worked great. Don't buy the light foamy ones, buy the others that are made out of the harder foam. I had to get a screw driver and push down on them on the edges but they work so much better than the plugs, and cheaper. I hope your experience gets better.
@@countryboyoutdoors7963 same..... I received mine for free from a friend so I can't complain but I would never pay money for one of these after having tried it
My first time Kayaking and this Kayak held strong. th-cam.com/users/postUgkx4k5UrhC3v_Y4hIEaXLGvHcN5a5aBmZNB The water got pretty rough as a speed boat zipped by me, and the Kayak withstood it (I expected to be capsized). The Ores are very easy to put together, the pump worked beautifully. the seats are a bit hard to sit in after a while (I recommend sitting on the floor). after reading the reviews I was very scared it'd get a hole in it, the material is very strong and durable. The Air valve may need a small Phillips head screwdriver to adjust, other than that, it's well worth the money!(update)I've gone Kayaking in 3 Lakes and 2 rivers totaling about 40 miles. the kayak had two holes and they patched easily and no other problems can't wait for kayaking season this year!
the water comes in through the holes. you can buy scupper plugs to fill the holes. I actually bought some practice foam golf balls and plugged the holes with them. They worked great. I've never had water come over the top and I've been in some rapids and in some rough waters already.
I'm 5''8 and about 115 lbs. I don't have any major issues with it. Now again it's not going to be as stable or have the features a $1000 kayak will have. So for the price I'm really happy with it.
I had this for less than 3 hours before I returned to Walmart. It was terrible. I would paddle left and it would go right. Every wake made it want to roll a lot and the nose sat very low so would I would call small wakes crashed over the top.
bigduke6702 I doubt he’ll reply so I’ll give you my take on it , I used scupper plugs to keep the water out and then it works well as just a regular kayak but if you’re a serious angler and you like to bring tackle the storage for that does not work to well , hard to tip , very light
No I find it pretty stable. I have 2 sit in kayaks and it is more stable than those. I'm 5'10 and 215 lbs and dont have any issues with the stability. Now I can't stand in it, it's definitely not that stable.
tony pogue I've been wanting to pull the trigger on this one but everyone says they flip and I'm a complete novice at yakking. lol thanks for the help.
So I bought one and tried it out on a relatively calm lake. It feels flippy until you get used to it. Overall I'd give it an 8/10...for full disclosure I am as rookie as it gets but I was able to hook up with and land a few fish in it without sinking it and I was also able to reenter it. For the money it isn't bad at all!
Sorry, I just saw your comment. I live in southern Missouri. This is a lake called Lake Girardeau, its close to my house. I usually fish the rivers around the area like the St Francis river, Current river and Black river. It is a very pretty area with great fishing.
Im 6'1, 275 pounds, i don't have one but was playing around on a friends, you won't be able to fully extend your legs, but it isn't an uncomfortable ride
I found it to be pretty stable. I have two sit iin kayaks and this one is definitely more stable than those. Now my two sit in kayaks have a v bottom to them so they are a little wobbly. Now if you compare it to a $1000 kayak it's not going to compare but for the cost I think it's a great buy. I'm about 210 lbs and I have had no issues with it.
"The stability of it is really, really good." All credibility lost right there. I took mine back. I couldn't keep it from flipping. If I had been in deep water, even if I could have gotten back into it, I could not have continued on as it filled with water quickly. Most of my kayak fishing is done in gator infested waters. Falling out and making a commotion trying to get back in to shore is not ideal in that situation. A word to the wise: try this thing out before you waste your money. And before you say it; I have a Lifetime Tamarack that I can't flip no matter how hard I try to make it flip. So, I do know how to handle a kayak.
Im new to kayak fishing and just wondering, would something like this be suitable for use in the ocean, say a mile or so out? If not, would outriggers make it more "sea worthy"? If not this kayak, can anyone recommend a stable kayak for ocean fishing (Preferably under $700). Stability is most important to me over tracking or looks or weight. Thanks! :)
Just ordered mine and can't wait to get it in the water. Thanks for the review!
I have one very similar to this one, I got a 1 inch thick, closed cell foam pad to sit on, big difference. I use yellow foam practice golf balls for scupper drain plugs, works great, very dry boat.
Mine came with a seat bottom , and scupper plugs I payed all said and done 235 after tax at tractor supply. I Love it I go 240 lbs and everyone said it wasn’t the right kayak for me do to my weight .but so far so good .
Me and my friend just bought that exact kayak the lady we got it from had those back plugs cocked up and the front plugs open. We took them out on the Huron River and they did pretty good every now and then the wind would blow us around but we got the hang of it and our middle compartment right between the legs didn't get any water in I have no idea why yours did and we didn't have no water around their butt. I would definitely get those plugs you were talking about and seal up the holes where you sitand to be on the safe side get some plugs for the front but have them removable in case water gets in it can drain out easier.
I have one of these. Great kayak. I installed a fixed rudder in it and now it tracks like an arrow. Definitely one improvement I highly recommended.
i will have to try that, thanks
Eagle View HD can you please tell me where you got your fixed rudder?
Can you send me a picture of what you done to your kayak
Thank you for doing this honest review. I was considering buying one of these but unfortunately getting ass soaked is not my idea of enjoying spending time on the water in this kayak.
Hey just wanted to let you know that a rubber scupper holder would work fine
With plugs in the drain holes, it should be dry as a bone
Did the scupper plugs work on this ?
It comes with 2 plugs for the holes. Stays dry inside.
I have one of these yes Skag is a must, doesn't track the best for a big guy. also some cheap DIY outriggers make this a great fishing yak enjoy
Great demo! My first kayak, and it served me well.
I had done alot of research and today I pulled the trigger, brought home 2 of these kayaks. The local TSC was running a sell, $100 off so I got them for $200 a piece, feeling pretty good about it. Gonna take one out on my buddys pond tomorrow. The foam golf balls are a great idea to plug the holes, I hadn't thought of that. So they came with a title waiting to be filled out, I was curious about the drain plugs on the top in the very front and the very back, do those holes double for navigation lights? I think they would fit but idk. I bought one for me, for sure, and the other for any friend I can drag along. Planning on customizing mine, have seen alot of cool mods on TH-cam
Iv’e read so many reviews on the instability, bad tracking and that it does not stay straight when you stop paddling But i’m watching this and seeing that it appears to be operator problems or the quality of the molds are not consistent when being built. Quite often when a test model is sent to someone to demonstrate, they put more effort in the quality and focus on that specific one and test it. This is in any product ever made. That particular one HAS TO BE PERFECT. The one you are using looks like it performs very well. Great video.
I paddle one of these in the gulf of Mexico, stability has been just fine. As for staying straight when stopped, kinda sound like a pipe dream, if you aren't directing the kayak, the wind and current will.
I just ordered mine!! I hope I fit in it too lol
I sealed the storage areas on mine. The one in front of the seat fills with water even after plugging the rear scuppers. I think the lid is the issue. Just got a dry box instead.
Nice & thorough video. 🤗. Looking to purchase my own, and this video popped up. Thank you. It helped.
I just bought this kayak, I fixed the issue of your butt being wet by adding a stadium seat wich makes the kayak more comfortable and keeps your dry
How well dose the stadium seat fits.
@@TRUUUKING perfect fit
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My journey doesn’t fill with that much water what am I doing wrong?
This is my first kayak and it’s amazing. Def buying a skeg for it though
The marine sealant is a good idea. However, you will need to do the same for everything screwed onto the hull such as the rod holders, shock cord cleats, drain plugs, etc. This will go far to keep the water out of the hull. I also got tired of sitting on the scupper holes, so I got a stadium seat and mounted it such that my bum is now about 3 inches above the scupper holes allowing the water to flow in and out as needed. Enjoy. If you want to use scupper plugs, the best are those from Sun Dolphin.
Rodney Hamilton ..Thanks for the info Rodney. I'm currently working on adding a seat to mine. I found a solution to the scupper holes. I used some foam golf practice balls to plug the holes and is working great.
Rodney Hamilton please let me know what you come up with as far as a seat.
I mounted a stadium seat to a small plastic foot stool that a cut down to about 3 inches in height. I then counted the stool to the kayak. Here are some pics in my google account:
plus.google.com/u/0/photos/103327074932058268146/album/6312206411649585665/6312206410032808962?authkey=COr2yYvs-6DVWg
Great video! I've been looking at getting a smaller sit on top kayak than my ascend 12 footer which is a great fishing kayak, very stable for a 6'2 person like myself, but loading it on top of my jeep isn't all that fun. But this kayak you reviewed and tried out, I'm thinking it might be what I've been looking for. Thanks again!
If you tuck that string in on the dry storage in between your legs = no water.. make sure your cap is on correctly. Never ever had a problem with that compartment.
Got mine for 150 bucks on black Friday at menards first fishing kayak ever and I love ot
Man I wish we got box store deals like that in Canada!
Even on black Friday we don't get deals like that
It's a good starter kayak just need to upgrade the seat cause in the first two hours your back will be sore
Is it still a good kayak? Do you recommend purchasing?
we bought one I really like it as well...taking it down the river next next week
I have a sit inside kayak but thinking of investing in this one for fishing. Thanks for the video
That kayak comes with plugs. I got mine on Christmas
Yeah it does . I got one a few days ago and it had plugs for the holes .
Mine didn't also didn't have the cap for the dry box
Thanks. I have been on the fence, but for what I will do with it, I think it will be perfect for the value. Hopefully will pick mine up tomorrow after work and put it in the water Sat. morning!
Let me know what you think of it. Again I have modified mine quite a bit. But for what I paid for it I really don't have any complaints.
It is awesome! Took it on a lake first, cause I am 6'2". Great day, then the Middle Oconee RIver, which was awesome, then on the Broad river with some decent rapids, 4-5' drops. Hell of a lot of fun! Could not be more pleased!
That's great ! ! I did add a cheap seat with a high back that I bought at academy sports. It was $7 and has a high back. It actually fits perfectly and I didn't have to screw it into the kayak. I did however have to cut an oval cut in the front part of the seat so I could still have access to the small storage compartment in the front of the seat. I will probably do another vid to show people how I did that. I also plugged the holes with foam golf balls which worked so much better than the scupper plugs the sporting goods sell. I also added some tie off anchor points to it for my anchor. I plan on a few more modifications... Glad you like the kayak
Not 100% sure but I think they sell plugs for those holes
Thanks so much for sharing man I have the same kayak shipping to my house right now
How do you like the kayak since you have had it a year.
I wish they would totally skip the tow compartment. No one uses it so they could put that wasted money back into the Kayak. For instance they could use more rivets on it instead of wood screws or an umbrella holder or a better seat or just about anything instead of that useless compartment
It is extra space and is to be used as a trailer
I'm getting this one from Wal-Mart next Saturday. My 1st kayak. Don't want to pay 1000 for no damn kayak
How do you like it since you have had it almost a year?
i guess its a good buy if you live in the US here in canada they sell it for 600$ canadian which is 480$ us
I just bought this kayak as my third, my first two being sit in kayaks. I took it out Sunday - not as stable as my sit in fishing kayaks - narrower and you sit higher up on the water. I was a little disappointed in how it tracked, as it would turn shortly after I quit paddling - and this was on a smooth as glass lake. The wet rear bothered me too, so I will definitely be getting plugs and some sort of seat. I want to like it, but it is making it very hard. Any encouragement is welcomed.
See I also have 2 sit in kayaks but I found this one to be more stable than my other 2. Maybe because those have more of a v bottom. I did buy some scupper plugs but they didn't work. I then saw a youtube video where a guy used some practice golf balls to plug the holes. I actually had some in my garage so I tried them and they worked great. Don't buy the light foamy ones, buy the others that are made out of the harder foam. I had to get a screw driver and push down on them on the edges but they work so much better than the plugs, and cheaper. I hope your experience gets better.
I'm not giving up yet on it. I'm going to get some of those balls like you've said.
mine has a padded seat on it
It may not be for standing but has anybody tried standing on it and casting tia.
So is the warter coming from the live well or the wholes under the seat I can't find out where it takes warter on
I bought this and I don’t like it much because it has a hard time balancing and turns weird
It constantly tracks hard left too.
@@countryboyoutdoors7963 same..... I received mine for free from a friend so I can't complain but I would never pay money for one of these after having tried it
let me know how well that sealant works ..
Amazing video about to go buy one at Academy tomorrow thank you so much
How do you like it? I’m purchasing mine tomorrow. Thanks in advance for any info
What's the brand of your watch?
If by any chance would you have the name of the music track?
I tried the plugs, they wouldn't stay in so i just used foam ear plugs in the holes. Works great, no more wet butt
Its a good kayak other than the stock paddle, you dont get very much water
You gotta insert the scupper plugs
If your but gets wet, grab one of those orange floatation devices and use it as a seat cushion.
Quick fix are those squishy ear plugs from walmart... just roll between fingers and stick them in works great on my ss 10
Didn't know a kayak review was going to turn into a fishing highlights video....geez!
I bought two of these today, April 26th 2018. After I got it home I noticed the left knee pad and rod holder was missing.
David Hefner just got two today, do you like the kayak?
Why didnt you look before you bought it?
Dont scuffer plug them it makes the boat float up and not track well. Get a staduim seat so you are above the water without making it not track well
I bought on f these. While on the water on a hot day they like to melt. The plastic gets very soft.
Hey i noticed the goat island sticker are u from charleston
Thank u for the review
My first time Kayaking and this Kayak held strong. th-cam.com/users/postUgkx4k5UrhC3v_Y4hIEaXLGvHcN5a5aBmZNB The water got pretty rough as a speed boat zipped by me, and the Kayak withstood it (I expected to be capsized). The Ores are very easy to put together, the pump worked beautifully. the seats are a bit hard to sit in after a while (I recommend sitting on the floor). after reading the reviews I was very scared it'd get a hole in it, the material is very strong and durable. The Air valve may need a small Phillips head screwdriver to adjust, other than that, it's well worth the money!(update)I've gone Kayaking in 3 Lakes and 2 rivers totaling about 40 miles. the kayak had two holes and they patched easily and no other problems can't wait for kayaking season this year!
Does water Come in from underneath through those holes? Or coming over the top of the kayak?
the water comes in through the holes. you can buy scupper plugs to fill the holes. I actually bought some practice foam golf balls and plugged the holes with them. They worked great. I've never had water come over the top and I've been in some rapids and in some rough waters already.
Will Wright yes
I use the yellow foam gold balls too, works great
thanks for the info
Where can I get the plugs to keep water out
How much do you weigh? I'm about 5'11 210 pounds wondering if this will still be a good fit for me
I'm 5''8 and about 115 lbs. I don't have any major issues with it. Now again it's not going to be as stable or have the features a $1000 kayak will have. So for the price I'm really happy with it.
Sorry, no I meant to say I'm 215 lbs.
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I had this for less than 3 hours before I returned to Walmart. It was terrible. I would paddle left and it would go right. Every wake made it want to roll a lot and the nose sat very low so would I would call small wakes crashed over the top.
Are you still enjoying this? There is a used one for sale in my area for 200 bucks.
bigduke6702 I doubt he’ll reply so I’ll give you my take on it , I used scupper plugs to keep the water out and then it works well as just a regular kayak but if you’re a serious angler and you like to bring tackle the storage for that does not work to well , hard to tip , very light
Restricted IQ Thanks, yeah doesn’t look like easy access to gear.
How did all that water get in?
Poor rowing lol mine doesnt get like that
Pleaseee fix the eyes of that rod😂
Dude, is this thing flippy?
No I find it pretty stable. I have 2 sit in kayaks and it is more stable than those. I'm 5'10 and 215 lbs and dont have any issues with the stability. Now I can't stand in it, it's definitely not that stable.
tony pogue I've been wanting to pull the trigger on this one but everyone says they flip and I'm a complete novice at yakking. lol thanks for the help.
MountainManThan same here man! I'm not shre
So I bought one and tried it out on a relatively calm lake. It feels flippy until you get used to it. Overall I'd give it an 8/10...for full disclosure I am as rookie as it gets but I was able to hook up with and land a few fish in it without sinking it and I was also able to reenter it. For the money it isn't bad at all!
Wow, that spot is beautiful. Where are you fishing at?
Sorry, I just saw your comment. I live in southern Missouri. This is a lake called Lake Girardeau, its close to my house. I usually fish the rivers around the area like the St Francis river, Current river and Black river. It is a very pretty area with great fishing.
What about addi ng a fish finder to it
Don Noble fishing , I added a fish finder to mine - check my video out . It works great and the set up does not hinder the performance of the kayak .
Hey guy. I lost my foot insert pedal ..where can I buy the replacement one. Thanks
Hey guy, have you tried the manufacturer’s website?
Great review, thanks
I'm 6'1" will it be long enough for me?
Jon Ellex I'm 6'2" slight bend in the legs on the furthest setting but it's not bad
Im 6'1, 275 pounds, i don't have one but was playing around on a friends, you won't be able to fully extend your legs, but it isn't an uncomfortable ride
Take the footrest out and it’s good. I’m 6’2 and have a journey 10 and journey 12. Love them both.
Does it come with paddal
Hello, does the water get in the two holes on the seat and get your butt wet? Or just drain only..
no your butt will get wet unless you plug them up with scupper plugs or use some foam practice golf balls, they qork better than the scupper plugs.
is the kayak stable?
I found it to be pretty stable. I have two sit iin kayaks and this one is definitely more stable than those. Now my two sit in kayaks have a v bottom to them so they are a little wobbly. Now if you compare it to a $1000 kayak it's not going to compare but for the cost I think it's a great buy. I'm about 210 lbs and I have had no issues with it.
I have a fish finder on mine I mount it on the front
nice sundolphin 10sss kayak boat
Has anyone tried this in the ocean?
jun rolndo don’t do that.
karAchi main is ki koi scheme nikalo
Did your butt get wet because you didn’t have your scupper plugs in?
"The stability of it is really, really good." All credibility lost right there. I took mine back. I couldn't keep it from flipping. If I had been in deep water, even if I could have gotten back into it, I could not have continued on as it filled with water quickly. Most of my kayak fishing is done in gator infested waters. Falling out and making a commotion trying to get back in to shore is not ideal in that situation. A word to the wise: try this thing out before you waste your money. And before you say it; I have a Lifetime Tamarack that I can't flip no matter how hard I try to make it flip. So, I do know how to handle a kayak.
Maybe you should consider something like this for your particular need. th-cam.com/video/4Jl_6N_7M00/w-d-xo.html
@@walden6272 Looks like a cool idea. My luck, though, I'd be out in the middle of the lake and fetch a hook in it.
Get a boat
C&R is stupid and inhumane. Otherwise great video. Been looking at getting this one but they're sold out everywhere.
Im new to kayak fishing and just wondering, would something like this be suitable for use in the ocean, say a mile or so out? If not, would outriggers make it more "sea worthy"? If not this kayak, can anyone recommend a stable kayak for ocean fishing (Preferably under $700). Stability is most important to me over tracking or looks or weight. Thanks! :)
Check out the boss 12 ss
Nice vid
thanks, it was my first review vid.
Nice yak
Looks like he is catching the same fish over and over again. Ha ha
Would sell mine to just about anybody. Not a good kayak. $400 to a new home
NEVER BUY THIS KAYAK ITS THE WORST..