A carpenter on a TH-cam video once said that anytime you can just scribe something, just do it. Don't worry about measuring, or finding the angle, scribe it. This is another example and it works perfectly. Scott just used a piece of stock that was the same thickness as the gap.
10 million videos on youtube about how to cut birdsmouth 99.999% are pure bullshit, making it harder to DIY'ers to do a simple job. This is by far THE BEST Video on youtube on this subject - Absolutely No BS Scott, you're fantastic
I watch a lot of vids on how to do this type of cut, and yours is the best and the one we used to do our shed. Man everyone of them are bang on. Thanks for keeping simple for people like me who do not do this things every day.
Good grief--thank you!! I've been racking my brain on tutorials on using a speed square and feeling discouraged--the video just saved me a whole lot of headache.
Even though his bird mouth came out alright this is not the way to cut a birds mouth. A birds mouth cut, is 2 cuts, each cut being perpendicular to one another, just like a T. Which we can call the 2 cuts as PLUMB cut, straight up and down, which is cut from a plumb line, and a LEVEL cut, straight left and right. -The amount of LEVEL cut should equal the thickness of the wall, in most cases 3.5 inches, for 2x4 walls, since 2x4’s are actually 1.5x3.5 inches thick. -When it comes to how much material you can remove from the plumb line, the line you mark using you speed square for say a 5-12 pitch. you can only remove up to 1/3 of the material of the plumb line, as the 1/3 cut out of that would be the plumb cut. -The reason you need a certain amount cut out of the LEVEL cut is for nailing purposes. You should be able to get at least 2 nails, toenailed, if you can’t then your level cut is too short. Now you can tie your rafters into the ceiling joists, but this is not how you should do it.
This is seriously the easiest and most common sense method I've ever seen to cutting rafters - and I love the timberlock screws... I'll absolutely be using those as well when I make my chicken coop nex month. Thank you!
Mucho thanks for the video. I tried your method and it works like a charm. My chickens thank you as well.... I can now finish their coop before the rain starts!
Ty very much building a leak to shelter. That is going to have a couple different birds mouth due to two seperate beams and this made my. Confidence of the job go up so much ty again
Oh my God, what a easy job. Thank you master. You made my day and save my time searching for a way to cut birds mouth for roof extention over my porch which will seat on the top of existing roof . Now what I need to do is to cut rafter to sit on playwood and make birds mout cut on the back of the rafter that will sit on the plate wall which is 6x6. . I have a construction master calculator which I dont need after watching this video.
Great video. I was hooked watching it. You used an 8 inch timber lock. Would I need to install hurricane ties after that? Or can I skip the hurricane ties. Thanks.
Thanks for the response. I don’t think the ties are required. I followed a set of plans that called for the timber locks, but it wouldn’t hurt if you’ve got the energy. Good luck!
Thank you for the vid. Just curious is 12” of rise over a span of 8 feet enough? Not sure that’s going to give you the minimum pitch required for shingles.
That’s a good point. I live in San Diego and it’s relatively dry and warm. So no ice or snow. I used a roofing called ondura that is like corrugated steel but made of asphalt. So it drains good enough. I deviated from the plans because I wanted more head room in my loft. I believe the plan called for 15 or 16 inches of rise.
hi found the vid useful. my question is my shed is 12ft by 8ft and imputting raftes on with of 8ft any i have only a 4" drop and i falling to get my head around the bird mouth i need to make it look respectable, due to the angle the bird mouth is going to be like a splinter of of the wood, due to the drop is it easier to notch the wood in like a U shape / Dado to sit on the wood ?
Vey informative, thanks, I found it hard to know what you where saying so had to use screen text, I will have to do one in English for us English speaking people..
Hi Scott! Did you know youre a life saver? Im a wood worker and ive been trying to find simple methods for scribing birdsmouths all over the internet, and finally came across you. This is perfect. My question is, once I get my birdsmouth done, before installing, Id like to have both my gable ends cut so that they are parralel to my wall. I think you mentioned in the video that you would do with them afterwards. Is there a reason why?, and also do you have any tricks for cutting them before install? Thanks!
Hi Johnny - so glad this helped. I had the same struggle. I couldn’t figure it out so I had a couple of beers and a cigar and sat and stared at the framing and this popped into my head! As far as the tails go I didn’t trust myself to cut them before installing. I was afraid they would not come out even. Once installed I snapped a chalk line on all of them and used a level to scribe a parallel line on them and cut them with a skill saw. Good luck!
Well, I don't smoke cigars, but I was turning this over in my head and realized the triangle empty space below the rafter is the same if flipped up and reversed to the left. I just didn't know how to make the horizontal line other than measuring the height the rafter was from the plate on the right hand side, which might vary due to unevenness in the timber. So thank you! This is for an 8 x 12 block out building that will have a roof a hair over flat - 2 2 x 6 plates on one end and 1 2 x 6 on the other. It may turn out I'm cutting a whisker out!
Great video, but you honestly did not even need to make a birdsmouth cut with such a small decline, tbh. You can just secure it as is. Still one of the best on how to make the cut, thanks.
Nathan Collins yes I think you are right. The plan I used called for it but the original pitch of the roof was much steeper. I’m in San Diego (no snow barely any rain🤷🏻♂️)so I reduced the pitch so I’d have more head room in my loft. Cheers!
You are both wrong, the mouth is for load tension. A three part class at your local community college would have taught you this. Stop building dangerous structures before someone gets hurt.
Or you can take your speed square and at each end of the rafter you can draw a straight line amd then measure the gap from the top plate to the bottom of the rafter amd go from what you measured to a zero point and then you have your birdsmouth.
Scott, If I understand correctly are you drilling 5" into the roof rafter? Looks like if using an 8" timber lock and drilling underneath two 2x4's (1.5" each) that's 5" into the rafter. Trying to figure out what size timber lock I would need if drilling underneath through 5.5" timber for my scenario. Thanks.
Chris ThemBones yes they went almost all the way through - there was a bit of an angle in the rafter that took up a small amount of space too. I stacked them up to see how much length I needed. More seems better in this instance...
Chris ThemBones do not use anything except hurricane ties and three 16d nails...you actually weaken the lumber by over wedging it with hardware. This guy is a hack. I build homes for a living and these asshats that slap some Home Depot hardware on it and call it good are teaching dangerous building practices.
I think it’s best if it comes from the bottom through the top plates on the wall. I also think it would be hard to screw through a 2x6 from the top. But it could work if you drill a deep pilot hole to guide the screw. Those big screws are Ledgerlok brand and they come in different lengths. Check Home Depot or Lowe’s. Best of luck on your project👍🏻
Yes it has to be the same difference as what your dealing with! So if you have a 4:12 pitch you'll need to have one end 1' high and the other 5' high on a 12' rafter!
Katie Howe yes. It determines the depth and width of the notch. I wanted the notch to be as wide as the top plate (top of the wall). On my wall since it was a 2x4 top plate the angle needs to cover the 4 inches. Kind of hard to explain - email me and I’ll send you a sketch. Scottybullock@gmail.com
Peter Gosinya I wanted mine to hang over 6 inches so I used longer 2x6’s and cut them back after I was done installing all of them. As far as the pitch goes it’s up to your judgement. I live in San Diego so there’s never snow so I only needed it to shed the rain. I think I have 12 inches of fall across 8 feet. 👍🏻
I think it’s ok as long as you double the top plate to place the rafters in between studs. I needed to get the rafter centers on 24” The walls layout kind of random with 16” centers with the window and door studs laying out wherever. But I think rafters over the studs is super sturdy if you can get the layout of the walls match the roof.
Robert Contrada hey Robert - hip roofs have lots of unique rafter lengths as they come down the hip ridge. My simple life hack demonstrated in the video is for rafters of all the same length that are placed on the top of walls in a shed style roof. A gable or hip requires more sophisticated methods. Good luck and let me know if you find a solution. Cheers!
michael mccabebigjock - I definitely wouldn’t consider my self a handyman. My wife asked me to build her a tiny house so I just tried to figure it out. I’ve never done any framing before this project or since and that was 3 years ago.
As a journeyman carpenter with about 20 yrs in the business I can tell one thing absolutley true about this demonstration. If you showed up on a construction site and attempted to use this method to cut rafters you would not be on site for very long. This is NOT how you measure and cut rafters. It might would do the trick on a barn or shed with a straight gable.....maybe.....but it leaves room for too many mistakes. I would not recommend using it.
@@Pastorscottbullock I do it for a living everyday, I dont pander for clicks trying to make money on YT, dont even have a channel, I have better things to do with my time..like earn a living. People like you take money out of the pocket of people like me with this BS that just proves that you do not have any idea how to measure and cut a rafter. Someone wants to learn, either get with a PROFESSIONAL or get a job as a PROFESSIONAL and learn like I did. Someone wants me to teach them how I will be glad to for $25/hr not a click on social media.
Mafongo Jr I’m not sure. I made mine so that the rafter made full contact across the top plate. You can make them as deep as you want just use a thicker piece of block when scribing the rafter.
Sorry pal you cant teach . All we wanna be shown is a clear close up of the bird mouth and what the function does exactly and you left the reason out. You never told us or showed us if these bird mouth angles vary with the different thickness of rafters and the various angles of pitch or slants. I'm sure you could have talked that thru for us and demonstrated how to cut these birdmouth shapes out correctly without the speed square
He couldn’t answer you if he wanted to, he’s a hack not a builder. His practices are dangerous and the furthest thing from industry standard. I’ve seen amigos that can’t speak English do better work.
I agree....Using joist lags on a dry 2x6 rafter....what a hack... This dipshit is an accident waiting to happen. Notice he didn’t have a crew, that’s because he’s handyman not a builder. Leave the structures to the pros.
Let me preface this comment by saying I am NOT trying to put you down. Im just going give you my honest opinion. ...... • You said you have a 12" rise... which equates to a 12 / 12 roof pitch. There is NO way thats a 12 pitch on that roof. A 12 pitch equates to a 45 degree slope.. The pitch on that shed roof is somewhere inbetween 5 / 6 pitch. • The depth of your birdsmouth is minimal. If you had set ur speed square on ur mock up with pivot side of speed square on high end of rafter & pivoted speed square until level ( 16 " level, any level ) then looked on common rafter table on speed square would have given exact roof pitch. Knowing that you then could hav easily cut ur birdsmouth deeper than 3/8". • You always want you soffit to be 90 degrees from ur outside wall, then ur fascia 90 degrees from ur soffit... Yea that will work on a shed style roof assuming on the low end you dont plan on having gutters, if u wanted to install gutters on low end ur gutters would follow the roof pitch, would not be 90 degrees from outside wall. • Your method to fasten the rafter may work, may be legal wherever u live but no way most States Codes would allow that fastening system Again Im not trying put you down. I see lots unwitting people here complement you on how easy it is cut a birds mouth... This is the problem with youtube there is a lot of disinformation on here which subsequently gets homeowners into trouble....... best luck
Awesome! Best and easiest birds mouth instruction on TH-cam!!
A note of thanks. Watched several videos for this. Rather involved process. Then I watched yours. Couldn’t be more simple and effective. Thank you.
Happy that it helped you!
Wow, the best video how to cut birds mouth using actual dimension but without using any calculation.
What a dead simple and efficient way to make this cut. Thank you.
Arthur Boni my pleasure👍🏻
Thank you ! A simple approach, which is what I need. I Appreciate you taking the time to post and share your experience !
You’re welcome I’m happy it helped!
A carpenter on a TH-cam video once said that anytime you can just scribe something, just do it. Don't worry about measuring, or finding the angle, scribe it. This is another example and it works perfectly. Scott just used a piece of stock that was the same thickness as the gap.
Yeah, but he didn't scribe the actual house, so it's possible it could be off a fair bit.
Thank you!!!! One of the best demonstration I have seen on YT. Very clear and to-the-point instructions.
10 million videos on youtube about how to cut birdsmouth
99.999% are pure bullshit, making it harder to DIY'ers to do a simple job.
This is by far THE BEST Video on youtube on this subject - Absolutely No BS
Scott, you're fantastic
Awesome Sid so happy it helped. Let me know how your project turns out.
@@Pastorscottbullock I'll be roofing my garden room on sunday, will let you know how it turns out :)
Much appreciated for this awesome video.
I watch a lot of vids on how to do this type of cut, and yours is the best and the one we used to do our shed. Man everyone of them are bang on. Thanks for keeping simple for people like me who do not do this things every day.
Robert Boisvert thanks you!
Dose it mater how tall u make the jig?
This was perfect explanation, thank you. After going through so many videos finally found one that made sense lol.
Good grief--thank you!! I've been racking my brain on tutorials on using a speed square and feeling discouraged--the video just saved me a whole lot of headache.
same here!
lol this guy is a like saver
same here too!
Even though his bird mouth came out alright this is not the way to cut a birds mouth. A birds mouth cut, is 2 cuts, each cut being perpendicular to one another, just like a T. Which we can call the 2 cuts as PLUMB cut, straight up and down, which is cut from a plumb line, and a LEVEL cut, straight left and right.
-The amount of LEVEL cut should equal the thickness of the wall, in most cases 3.5 inches, for 2x4 walls, since 2x4’s are actually 1.5x3.5 inches thick.
-When it comes to how much material you can remove from the plumb line, the line you mark using you speed square for say a 5-12 pitch. you can only remove up to 1/3 of the material of the plumb line, as the 1/3 cut out of that would be the plumb cut.
-The reason you need a certain amount cut out of the LEVEL cut is for nailing purposes. You should be able to get at least 2 nails, toenailed, if you can’t then your level cut is too short. Now you can tie your rafters into the ceiling joists, but this is not how you should do it.
I thought of this in my own today and came on TH-cam to see if there was a better way. Cool to see someone else doing it
Great minds!
Thank you for braking it down so simple every one else made it so hard to do 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
*I've got my 'Stonehenge' and just cut my 1st bird. Much appreciated instructions, many thanks Scott!*
Boots Boots I’m happy this helped!
BRILLIANT. The easy way to cut a Birds Mouth
I cannot thank you enough Sir, been looking for this easy explanation without all the measuring. Thank you Sir.
I am happy it helped out!
Thank you for simplifying the complicated method of figuring out the bird mouth cut...
This is seriously the easiest and most common sense method I've ever seen to cutting rafters - and I love the timberlock screws... I'll absolutely be using those as well when I make my chicken coop nex month. Thank you!
headmeister your welcome!
Sounds like a big chicken coop.
Please tag me with the link
Great! straight to te point.This is how tutorials shoud be.
Finally a tutorial without the BS
Thanks for making it simple. You are amazing!
Mucho thanks for the video. I tried your method and it works like a charm. My chickens thank you as well.... I can now finish their coop before the rain starts!
PugetSoundFlyer PSF great to hear! Happy chickens happy life!
Same!
Brilliant! Love your experience, thank you for sharing
I was trying to think of a way to do this after watching some really complicated TH-cam videos genius
That was clear and practical. Nice! Thank you.
Ty very much building a leak to shelter. That is going to have a couple different birds mouth due to two seperate beams and this made my. Confidence of the job go up so much ty again
Daniel Harrell - great. Let me kow how it goes.
Does it leak to?
Oh my God, what a easy job. Thank you master. You made my day and save my time searching for a way to cut birds mouth for roof extention over my porch which will seat on the top of existing roof . Now what I need to do is to cut rafter to sit on playwood and make birds mout cut on the back of the rafter that will sit on the plate wall which is 6x6. . I have a construction master calculator which I dont need after watching this video.
Finally easy to follow. Thank you!
If that were me I would of had the walls sheated and measure the overhang for the band board , makes it alot easier to set walls by yourself
I watched other videos abt birdsmouth & this is the easiest to understand.
Nice video,breaks it down to be so easy,thank you
Thanks. Simple for a simple job. So many vids over complicate things
best video to learn how to cut bird mouth rafters
thanks for posting! you saved my ass re: 2"x12" (12 foot) pressure treated boards! They're all I have and this roof is gonna be insanely strong.
Thank you for making it super easy.
I am making a firewood shed and wanted to know how to cut the bird's mouth. Great video!
Best way I’ve seen yet 👍🏻
All the other dam videos used math they'll be like 3 ft subtract than divide than the square root, this one kills all the other thanx
I had to figure out a way without math. Lol. Glad it helped.
U the man thanks a lot for making this simple n easy
Thanks for sharing. Greetings from Chile.
Francisco Javier Gonzalez Miranda you are welcome! Greetings from California!
Thank you Brother,
completely understandable
Great video. I was hooked watching it. You used an 8 inch timber lock. Would I need to install hurricane ties after that? Or can I skip the hurricane ties. Thanks.
Thanks for the response. I don’t think the ties are required. I followed a set of plans that called for the timber locks, but it wouldn’t hurt if you’ve got the energy. Good luck!
Thank you for the video. Everything looks good, except the long screws.
Thank you wish I would have found this video a few hours earlier. it would have stopped an argument between my dad and me.
SuperMetallized oh man. My wife almost wrung my neck during this project. It can be hard working with family. 🙏🏻
Just saved me a load of time!
Thank you for the vid. Just curious is 12” of rise over a span of 8 feet enough? Not sure that’s going to give you the minimum pitch required for shingles.
That’s a good point. I live in San Diego and it’s relatively dry and warm. So no ice or snow. I used a roofing called ondura that is like corrugated steel but made of asphalt. So it drains good enough.
I deviated from the plans because I wanted more head room in my loft. I believe the plan called for 15 or 16 inches of rise.
This is what i was looking for thank u soooo much
Awesome very helpful thank you
hi found the vid useful.
my question is my shed is 12ft by 8ft and imputting raftes on with of 8ft any i have only a 4" drop and i falling to get my head around the bird mouth i need to make it look respectable, due to the angle the bird mouth is going to be like a splinter of of the wood, due to the drop is it easier to notch the wood in like a U shape / Dado to sit on the wood ?
Craig Bell check video at 2:30. If you use a thicker piece of wood the cut will be deeper and may get you a better look.
thanks so much!
My pleasure. 👍🏻
Vey informative, thanks, I found it hard to know what you where saying so had to use screen text, I will have to do one in English for us English speaking people..
Wait. I was speaking English. Southern California English lol!
Scott just save me couple dollars because i messed up a few rafters already thumbs up thank you alot
Hi Scott! Did you know youre a life saver? Im a wood worker and ive been trying to find simple methods for scribing birdsmouths all over the internet, and finally came across you. This is perfect.
My question is, once I get my birdsmouth done, before installing, Id like to have both my gable ends cut so that they are parralel to my wall. I think you mentioned in the video that you would do with them afterwards. Is there a reason why?, and also do you have any tricks for cutting them before install? Thanks!
Hi Johnny - so glad this helped. I had the same struggle. I couldn’t figure it out so I had a couple of beers and a cigar and sat and stared at the framing and this popped into my head!
As far as the tails go I didn’t trust myself to cut them before installing. I was afraid they would not come out even. Once installed I snapped a chalk line on all of them and used a level to scribe a parallel line on them and cut them with a skill saw.
Good luck!
Definitely thumbs up from me!
Well, I don't smoke cigars, but I was turning this over in my head and realized the triangle empty space below the rafter is the same if flipped up and reversed to the left. I just didn't know how to make the horizontal line other than measuring the height the rafter was from the plate on the right hand side, which might vary due to unevenness in the timber. So thank you! This is for an 8 x 12 block out building that will have a roof a hair over flat - 2 2 x 6 plates on one end and 1 2 x 6 on the other. It may turn out I'm cutting a whisker out!
that's very slick
Well done sir, you are a national treasure! Like Jim Cramer
you are a hero
Great video, but you honestly did not even need to make a birdsmouth cut with such a small decline, tbh. You can just secure it as is. Still one of the best on how to make the cut, thanks.
Nathan Collins yes I think you are right. The plan I used called for it but the original pitch of the roof was much steeper. I’m in San Diego (no snow barely any rain🤷🏻♂️)so I reduced the pitch so I’d have more head room in my loft. Cheers!
You are both wrong, the mouth is for load tension. A three part class at your local community college would have taught you this. Stop building dangerous structures before someone gets hurt.
IrishSavage87 lol. Whatever. This was an engineered design from an architect. I’m simply showing how I achieved the technique that was called for.
@@Pastorscottbullock you are the best
Thank you, know I know what I have been doing wrong.
Or you can take your speed square and at each end of the rafter you can draw a straight line amd then measure the gap from the top plate to the bottom of the rafter amd go from what you measured to a zero point and then you have your birdsmouth.
Scott, If I understand correctly are you drilling 5" into the roof rafter? Looks like if using an 8" timber lock and drilling underneath two 2x4's (1.5" each) that's 5" into the rafter. Trying to figure out what size timber lock I would need if drilling underneath through 5.5" timber for my scenario. Thanks.
Chris ThemBones yes they went almost all the way through - there was a bit of an angle in the rafter that took up a small amount of space too. I stacked them up to see how much length I needed. More seems better in this instance...
Chris ThemBones do not use anything except hurricane ties and three 16d nails...you actually weaken the lumber by over wedging it with hardware. This guy is a hack. I build homes for a living and these asshats that slap some Home Depot hardware on it and call it good are teaching dangerous building practices.
Did you check for any 'camber' (bow) along the top length of your rafter....?
Arcturusgold I did not.
That very long screw, does it matter if you screw it from the top instead of from the bottom like the video?
I think it’s best if it comes from the bottom through the top plates on the wall. I also think it would be hard to screw through a 2x6 from the top. But it could work if you drill a deep pilot hole to guide the screw.
Those big screws are Ledgerlok brand and they come in different lengths. Check Home Depot or Lowe’s. Best of luck on your project👍🏻
How far apart did you go on raftors
24”. Good luck on your project!
the jig you made does it have to be a certain height?
Paul Landin the height of the two jigs is just the difference between the two walls. In this case it was about 12 inches.
Of course it does or the angles would be wrong. Incidentally, this in not the correct way to do this. No carpenter would use this method.
Yes it has to be the same difference as what your dealing with!
So if you have a 4:12 pitch you'll need to have one end 1' high and the other 5' high on a 12' rafter!
I realize this is a older video but as I was watching I saw what looks like a Mew in the background.
I had to google that 🤣 but yes. Gidget the Mew.
does it matter about the thickness of the scrap bit?
Katie Howe yes. It determines the depth and width of the notch. I wanted the notch to be as wide as the top plate (top of the wall). On my wall since it was a 2x4 top plate the angle needs to cover the 4 inches.
Kind of hard to explain - email me and I’ll send you a sketch. Scottybullock@gmail.com
How do you know how much to hang off and what about the roof pitch?
Peter Gosinya I wanted mine to hang over 6 inches so I used longer 2x6’s and cut them back after I was done installing all of them.
As far as the pitch goes it’s up to your judgement. I live in San Diego so there’s never snow so I only needed it to shed the rain. I think I have 12 inches of fall across 8 feet. 👍🏻
Nice
I try to set the rafters directly over the studs
Nice job
I think it’s ok as long as you double the top plate to place the rafters in between studs.
I needed to get the rafter centers on 24” The walls layout kind of random with 16” centers with the window and door studs laying out wherever.
But I think rafters over the studs is super sturdy if you can get the layout of the walls match the roof.
Would this method work for a hip roof with a 7/12 pitch?
Robert Contrada hey Robert - hip roofs have lots of unique rafter lengths as they come down the hip ridge.
My simple life hack demonstrated in the video is for rafters of all the same length that are placed on the top of walls in a shed style roof. A gable or hip requires more sophisticated methods. Good luck and let me know if you find a solution.
Cheers!
finally someone on TH-cam with common sense
Put some silicone sealer or soap on that screw before you drive it in and you decrease the amount of torque you will need to drive it in.
Oh man! I wish I would have known that! Great tip. Thanks.
Are u cutting birds
Mouths on both ends then?
Jason Nester yes. They are opposite
Never seen a double birds mouth rafter but alright
wow so cool thank you
Only a tad over 7 degrees, no good for felt shingles here in the uk,
That makes sense. I needed more head room in the loft so I compromised the pitch since we have predominantly dry weather and never any snow. Cheers!
Hey Scott are those 2 x 6 joists your using?
Eric Melo yes 2x6
Eric Melo he is a HOME OWNER. HE IS NOT A REAL CARPENTER. NOT BAD FOR A BEGINNER I GUESS...
@@aurelianovmaldonado1148 and whitch one of you know without a code book how far a 2x6 joist can span?
Just a handyman
michael mccabebigjock - I definitely wouldn’t consider my self a handyman. My wife asked me to build her a tiny house so I just tried to figure it out. I’ve never done any framing before this project or since and that was 3 years ago.
As a journeyman carpenter with about 20 yrs in the business I can tell one thing absolutley true about this demonstration. If you showed up on a construction site and attempted to use this method to cut rafters you would not be on site for very long. This is NOT how you measure and cut rafters. It might would do the trick on a barn or shed with a straight gable.....maybe.....but it leaves room for too many mistakes. I would not recommend using it.
Thanks for the feedback Rachet 070. You should upload a video and show us your recommend way.
@@Pastorscottbullock I do it for a living everyday, I dont pander for clicks trying to make money on YT, dont even have a channel, I have better things to do with my time..like earn a living. People like you take money out of the pocket of people like me with this BS that just proves that you do not have any idea how to measure and cut a rafter. Someone wants to learn, either get with a PROFESSIONAL or get a job as a PROFESSIONAL and learn like I did. Someone wants me to teach them how I will be glad to for $25/hr not a click on social media.
Shouldn't a birds mouth be at least 1 1/2 deep?
Mafongo Jr I’m not sure. I made mine so that the rafter made full contact across the top plate. You can make them as deep as you want just use a thicker piece of block when scribing the rafter.
Thank you !!!!
Are you in vista California ?
zbro007 Crest/Alpine. You in San Diego CA.
Awesome!
Sorry pal you cant teach . All we wanna be shown is a clear close up of the bird mouth and what the function does exactly and you left the reason out. You never told us or showed us if these bird mouth angles vary with the different thickness of rafters and the various angles of pitch or slants. I'm sure you could have talked that thru for us and demonstrated how to cut these birdmouth shapes out correctly without the speed square
Thanks for the comment. I definitely have room for improvement. It’s been so long ago I don’t think I’d remember how to do it now.
Thanks!
Looks fecking hot
In complicated or advance framing this is not work
That handsaw is blunt as fuck
maybe a 3 /12 pitch ?!!!
He couldn’t answer you if he wanted to, he’s a hack not a builder. His practices are dangerous and the furthest thing from industry standard. I’ve seen amigos that can’t speak English do better work.
@@irishsavage8715 I enjoyed this video. Why is he a hack? What practise was dangerous? Thanks.
lost me at width of trailer?
8’
@@Pastorscottbullock thanks
If this method of calculation was used Primarily on my jobs .. Your'e Fired .. This is numbnuts frames a roof
IVORY123100 it’s not a calculation. It’s a short cut for laymen. No need for insults. Show us a better way in your own video.
He don't work for you so stfu.
I agree....Using joist lags on a dry 2x6 rafter....what a hack... This dipshit is an accident waiting to happen. Notice he didn’t have a crew, that’s because he’s handyman not a builder. Leave the structures to the pros.
The seat cut isn’t deep enough.
The notch only needs to span the top plate. Anything deeper adds no increased structural support.
WTH is a "trailer"?
Khamomil this is a tiny house on wheels. So the framing is built on a steel trailer bed. 🤷🏻♂️
@@Pastorscottbullock thanks.Your system is very smart.
I thought we had to do a real bird 😂
Ship Queen 🤷🏻♂️🤣
Let me preface this comment by saying I am NOT trying to put you down. Im just going give you my honest opinion. ......
• You said you have a 12" rise... which equates to a 12 / 12 roof pitch. There is NO way thats a 12 pitch on that roof. A 12 pitch equates to a 45 degree slope.. The pitch on that shed roof is somewhere inbetween 5 / 6 pitch.
• The depth of your birdsmouth is minimal. If you had set ur speed square on ur mock up with pivot side of speed square on high end of rafter & pivoted speed square until level
( 16 " level, any level ) then looked on common rafter table on speed square would have given exact roof pitch. Knowing that you then could hav easily cut ur birdsmouth deeper than 3/8".
• You always want you soffit to be 90 degrees from ur outside wall, then ur fascia 90 degrees from ur soffit... Yea that will work on a shed style roof assuming on the low end you dont plan on having gutters, if u wanted to install gutters on low end ur gutters would follow the roof pitch, would not be 90 degrees from outside wall.
• Your method to fasten the rafter may work, may be legal wherever u live but no way most States Codes would allow that fastening system
Again Im not trying put you down. I see lots unwitting people here complement you on how easy it is cut a birds mouth... This is the problem with youtube there is a lot of disinformation on here which subsequently gets homeowners into trouble.......
best luck
12 inch height difference between the walls is what I was trying to communicate. Thanks for the feedback👍🏻
I have done very similar with Woodglut designs.
Ur jig seems backwards
Jason Nester What do you mean by backwards?
Scott Bullock ur jig you showed the birds mouth cut on the higher end
Just a very unclear explanation imo
Ahh I see what you mean. There is actually a cut on both ends. The jig sets it up to mark both cuts.
It is a bit confusing. Thanks for the comments!
My adventure with woodworking started with Woodprix.
Cheater method but not the mathematical method.