OPPENHEIMER Explained: What Happened to Lewis Strauss & Heisenberg?
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- OPPENHEIMER Explained: What Happened to Lewis Strauss & Heisenberg? In this video, we break down two of Oppenheimer's biggest rivals throughout the story of the Atomic Bomb, Werner Heisenberg and Lewis Strauss. We go through all of the real-life events and timelines of what happened to them before and after the events of the movie. Ranging from Heisenberg's history of failed attempts of creating his own bomb to his capture and rise to prominence in the years after. Played by Robert Downey Jr (Strauss) and Matthias Schweighöfer (Heisenberg), we take a deep dive into the history, lots to get through so let's get into it!
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Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show I'm your host Paul and this video we're gonna be breaking down Oppenheimer. In the movie we follow the father of the atomic bomb as he develops his world changing device. Throughout the story he's pitted against two people and this comes in the form of a German scientist and also a US Secretary.
In the movie we learn that both don't get their way and you might have some questions about what happens to them next. Throughout this video we're gonna be going through both Strauss and Heisenbergs legacy and what happened to them after the film.
Heavy Spoilers ahead so if you haven't seen the movie then I highly recommend that you turn off now. I know most of this is involving history but there's people who don't know the ins and outs and I think people should see the film first.
Anyway with that out the way thanks for checking out the video, now let's get into our breakdown of Oppenheimer.
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You really need to quit referring to the US as “america”. It’s insulting to the other countries of the continent and makes you look like a US sympathiser.
71 trillion pounds of Paul's puns
@alberto5147 No other country in the Western Hemisphere, other than Canada, who doesn't refer to itself as the Canada of America, played any significant role in WW2 other than to harbor frigging NAZIS, so until those other countries FESS UP TO THE RAT LINES, sit your pretty little butt back down and wait until later when other Western Hemisphere countries EARNED a distinction other than the Catholic Hypocrite Fascist Traitor PIECES OF DUNG of the Americas.
I loved the movie
Cillian and RDJ were truly phenomenal in the film. The whole cast was steller though. Evertime a new person appeared I was in awe 😂😂
Had exactly the same 😵💫
My fav was Florence. Both of them.
@@matwinner9708 she was incredible!!
It had an all star cast with Oscar winners playing small side roles. There wasn’t a single weak performance. The age makeup was also stellar and elevated the sense of immersion.
Yea same to me, especially when Gary Oldman & Rami Malek appeared
As a german it was shocking to see Matthias Schweighöfer as Heisenberg. He is a german actor mostly appearing in german comedy movies
I was excited to see him, did not know he would be. after all, he’s one of maybe 3 good German actors… While sure, he mostly does comedy, there’s also Der rote Baron
I was so proud and happy for him to be in such a movie but I cannot see him as a serious actor after everything he's done with Joko & Klaas 😂
Not really he played a coach on a drama movie. I took him seriously
Matthias is a good actor tho. I remember him as Dieter in Army of the Dead.
Well, not only in comedies. For instance he had a small role in "Valkyrie" (with Tom Cruise as Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg) as Lieutenant Franz Herber. Looks for international movies he is being cast for more serious roles.
The reason Heisenberg failed at building the bomb was simple - his budget was 8 million RM, equivalent to about 2 million USD. Yes, that's right - million. He had 1/1000th of the budget of the Manhattan project.
It wasn't because the Nazis were out of resources, not really - the development of V2 rockets is estimated to have been MORE expensive than the Manhattan Project. They just did not prioritise it. Honestly given the almost nonexistent funding he had it's actually really impressive how much they achieved.
Well, B29 was more expensive than Manhattan. US could do both, plus build the biggest navy & air force, and prosecute two WWIIs at the same time...
@@coachhannah2403yes...and we still can
Hitler almost always seemed to prioritize the wrong things, but I think this movie covered the reason why in this instance. He considered it Jewish science
The Nazis were absolutely running out of raw resources and the reason the Allies won is because of simple war of attrition. The Nazi government had barely any gasoline, oil, steel and other raw materials by 1943. The allies won because they had excess to way more raw resources. Both USSR and United States had large untapped lands of raw resources and produced way more tanks, trucks, planes, etc... compared to the Germans. Also the USSR and United States had huge populations that outnumbered the axis massively.
But the Germans were running out of resources. The Nazis could only focus on one advanced weapon(V2 rockets) at a time. The US had clearly had more money in research and development. They could invest money in atomic bombs and rocket technology. The Germans were also running out of men by 1943. They had to conscript scientists to fight something the US never had to do.
I love how a movie just gives us history lessons
me too! i didnt know much about this before seeing the movie. I found out there were lots of details left out of the movie like how a lot of families were forced out of their homes to make way for the town and how a lot of children who lived near by died of lukemia (sorry I can't spell haha) anyway so harrowing but good to learn it.
Eh..frankly I don’t recommend you take to much from its sex lessons
Oppie: “Oh, shit-I succeeded 😵💫”
Heisenberg: “Thank God-I failed 😅”
Some other interesting things that happened after the time frame of Oppenheimer:
1) Albert Einstein co-authored a manifesto with leading scientists and intellectuals, including Bertrand Russell, arguing that nuclear weapons posed a grave threat to humanity and pleading with world leaders to seek diplomatic solutions rather than further nuclear development. Oppenheimer did not sign it.
2) Oppenheimer’s daughter was also denied security clearance later in life due to her father’s previous denial, costing her a job as a UN translator. She relocated to the family’s beach house in the US Virgin Islands (where her parents were buried), became a recluse, and died by suicide at 32.
Why didn't Oppenheimer sign it?
@@Jansenbakercuz there is a possibility of another side of Oppenheimer, As he displayed empathy and was sympathetic on the outside. Some evidence points he wanted to be the father of the atomic bomb and he was fully aware of what he was doing and yet he pushed on as hard as he could while he kept reasoning it's to end the great war etc.
Holly f thanks that's terrible but incredibly interesting
When was that manifesto signed? Perhaps Oppenheimer avoided signing it in fear it will make his security clearance even less likely?
@@user-jg4ns7pn6c Oppenheimer's ambition, arrogance, and professional curiosity have been well documented, but in this case, I think there's a much simpler explanation for why he refused to sign Einstein's manifesto: The USSR was not far behind us in nuclear capabilities, and NOBODY under Joe Stalin would even consider signing such a document. It WAS an arm's race LONG before the bombs were dropped on Japan.
you know a movie is good when every other youtuber is making videos on it. Glad I experienced it in theatres.
I just saw it today, it was mind blowing 👏🏽👏🏽❤️
As a German, I'd never have thought that I'd see Matthias Schweighöfer on a thumbnail of yours😂
Army of thieves!
@@heavyspoilersso that’s where I’d seen that actor before 🤔 doesn’t he have a part in that upcoming Gal Gadot Netflix movie?
So Heisenberg was...never mind. You did your breaking bad joke before I could get this typed out.😄
"I have become Heisenberg, the knocker of doors"
Oppenheimer is a master Class on movie making. Nolan really nailed it. Some side notes about how Russia made their own nuclear bomb. Wernher von Braun who invented the v2 rocket was also captured along with Werner Heisenberg at the end of war and were put into service in the US. Wernher von Braun would later be instrumental in putting a man in space for the US, but there were other german scientists who were capture by the Russians and they helped develop Russia's first A Bomb. I loved how Edward Teller was portrayed, looking so greasy. He went on to pushing for the creation of Nuclear power plants and making bigger and bigger nuclear weapons. He went for the money and had no ethics.
Teller was the model for Stanley Kubrick's "Dr Strangelove"
Teller came across as on the spectrum. He seemed to be in hyperfocus. His dislike of the 'unpredictability' of Oppenheimer is also supportive of this theory.
There's nothing unethical about pushing for nuclear power plants though.
Heisenberg also produced the first paper on matrix mechanics in 1925, which was the first major progress past the Bohr electron orbits, which he disregarded completely in that paper.
So glad that there are so many people who are interested to learn about one of the most important moment in human history
I was going to be livid if there wasn’t a breaking bad reference. Good job bruv
I would like to have seen Oppenheimers thoughts during the Cuban Missle Crisis.
Excellent post!
Oppenheimer would probably take a personal visit to Vasili Arkhipov's home to apologise
I had a nice but brief talk with Norman Cousins in NYC back in 1983. I would have asked him this question on Oppenheimer's possible thoughts on the Cuban Missile Crisis myself had I been much more thoughtful! It is a fascinating question you have come up with!
@@thebiscuitguy646 Unfortunately Vasili Arkhipov's story did NOT become known until 2002 after his passing in 1998. Perhaps they are only now conversing in the World beyond with the recent passing of Daniel Ellsberg too? I hope somebody is trying to help us! I lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962 as a teenager. It was absolutely harrowing. The spiritual rebellion of the 1960's started in that vortex!
@@marktwain5232 It must have been horrible for everyone around the world, preparing for the worst.
Honestly, the movie was amazing. It was cool to see the overlapping of many famous scientists and politicians in history. My favorite quote was when Oppenheimer spoke to Heisenberg, and Heisenberg said, “You clearly don’t know who you’re talking to, so let me clue you in. I am not in danger, Robert. I am the danger. A guy opens his door and gets shot, and you think that of me? No! I am the one who knocks!”
Fantastic video! Thank you!
I love when i refresh my subs and you pop up with a fresh boi
Heisenberg remains the 2nd youngest Nobel Laureate in physics and a GOAT of physics. 😅
Yeah and 3rd youngest after Malala and Lawrence Bragg
He pledged loyalty to a nazi commander tho
@@WhizPillcause he had to, he didn’t want to betray his country, however, he didn’t support the doings of the nazis. He was a Jew sympathise which is why he was investigated and distrusted. He didn’t want to develop a bomb against his own country. He had to chose sides, he didn’t choose the nazis, just his people
@@WhizPill Ok and? He destroyed Gus Fring and his meth empire and became one of the most feared kingpins in America.
Hey Paul. Here is some interesting I was wondering that you might cover. The beginning of Oppenheimer explains who the titan Prometheus was. As I sat in the audience, I couldn’t help but think of Mary Shelly’s Frankenstein subtitled The Modern Prometheus. In a lot of ways the story of Oppenheimer could be seen as a real (modern) retelling of Frankenstein. One wonders if this was deliberate by Nolan or just a big coincidence. This is a question that I think could make for an interesting discussion in a future video.
Love that comment, really good pickup with it, might try and work that into something in the future. Thanks so much
Well Frankenstein story also took inspiration from the Prometheus story to that’s where the similarities come from. Man gaining the power of a god and being punished by the consequences of having that power.
The movie was inspired by the book "Oppenheimer: American Prometheus" which was definitely a play on the Frankenstein title.
Well Oppenheimer is Modern meanwhile Frankenstein is like a bajillion years old
Thanks for the info
how did you get all these high quality shots from the movie?
Thank you for the additional information. My husband and I very much enjoyed Oppenheimer. :)
thanks so much for checking out the video and all the support
Oppenheimer is a very interesting movie. The getting started of the Nuke-stuff is very different than today. The old ones thought that this was just a Russian and USA weapon. Oppenheimer and many other scientists realized the atomic bomb building blocks were now set in motion and no turning back. If you cannot make it, then buy it as if it were an expensive lightbulb.
Nice video dude..Climax city ka bhi explanation Acha tha yarr scene to scene smajye h.
Thank you Paul
Heisenberg sounds like a fascinating man. Your video induced me to do research on him, which is why I gave you a thumbs up and subscribed to channel. I subscribe to channels that stimulate my mind and emotions. Good video.
thanks for the explainer
Heisenberg = 90% of the video..
Strauss... died.
The little clip of Mr. Bean walking out of a room, followed by an explosion after you'd mentioned Heisenberg accidentally destroyed his lab made me laugh so hard I almost threw up💀
Great vid! I continue to be astonished every time I see pics of the real Oppenheimer. He…really was that handsome, huh?? Most real ppl played by movie stars get a ridiculous glow-up, but Oppenheimer already had movie star good looks. I wonder how much that played into his famous charisma?
The OSS agent Moe Berg was a very interesting person. In the 1920s & 30s he was a pro baseball player. He played for several teams at various infield positions, but had his best years as a catcher in the American League.
The Catcher was a Spy, 2018 movie is about Mo Berg.
I wish they showed more technical/engineering work that went into the building the bomb.
We had marbles in a bowl then its already a manufactured cartridge being placed in the device.
Like in these 4 hours of investigations they couldn't fit in 5 minutes of the designing the uranium separation and construction of the actual facilities, not just barracks?
Gotta film those barracks glamour shots for the US military complex. Why have science when you can just flash some weird led light graphic on screen.
As a fan of science youtube the first half of this movie was awesome. It was like an avengers movie but instead of heroes it’s a bunch of nerds and instead of unlocking new superpowers it’s making scientific discoveries.
As a fan of history and someone who finds politics fascinating the second half of the movie was also magnificent
@@matityaloran9157 we could start a band
Funny how you liken it to an Avengers (Marvel) movie... For reasons which should begin to be obvious from the movie, Edward Teller's nickname was "Doctor Doom". This continued after the war with his intense push for development of thermonuclear weapons, and through the 1980s, he was a big proponent of the "Strategic Defense Initiative", commonly referred to as "Star Wars" anti-missile defense, pushed by President Reagan. Well, years later, Stan Lee and Jack Kirby created their own "Dr. Doom" for Marvel Comics, and his main opponent was Reed Richards, the leader of the Fantastic Four. And Richards was a lanky scientific genius who constantly smoked a pipe! So yeah, Reed Richards and Victor von Doom were directly based on Oppenheimer and Teller, respectively!
So what ur telling me is the MCU aged backwards in time? Ran out of comics to adapt and ended up pulling from the oldest canon there is?
When Matt damons' character kept saying the government spent $2 billion on this project, like its a big deal was a funny moment. They only spent 71 billion in todays money to create the greatest weapon known to mankind. Meanwhile the military today spent 2.1 TRILLION dollars on a new fighter plane that does not even work.
Nobody spend 2 trillion on fighter planes
As a person who works directly w/ the F35 you’re incredibly wrong lol.
@@DDewberrythat plane knows the enemies internet search history.
Doesn’t work? Tell that to Switzerland, Finland, and Czechia, all of whom purchased them sometime in the last year. I’m sure they’ll listen to some ignorant internet troll 😂
The idea that the F35 doesn't work is a meme that comes from a Russia Today article that read the title of a Financial Times article covering a report from the pentagon that they didn't understand- which was that the Air Force wanted to make a new plane with all the new fancy tech of the F-35 but was smaller and cheaper, as a replacement for the *F-16*, with the point being they could sell this new plane to friendly countries that couldn't afford the F-35.
The FT saw this and thought this request was actually a proposal for a replacement to the F-35, RT took that and claimed it was an admission the F-35 didn't work, and then it became an internet meme amongst the 'America bad' online crowd.
thank u!!!
Kidney cancer isn’t contracted, like a cold. Cancer arises from malignant tumor cells. Brilliant BB pivot!
Contracted means caught or developed. Not exactly wrong, you are nitpicking.
hpv?
Thank you SOOO much for the Breaking Bad reference!!!!💞
Just finished watching the movie 30 mins ago in the theatre....I was wondering that too 😂😂😂 thank you for the explanation
Honestly i wish i knew all this BEFORE i watched the movie
Good job
Do one on teller and his continued work on the h bomb
The clips with Paul Rudd as Moe Berg are from the film The Catcher Was a Spy. Highly recommend seeing it if you want to learn about one of the most interesting people who ever lived.
Great video! At least one prominent German that wasn’t a douche during WW2.
When's the shot by shot breakdown coming?
probably when its released digitally so I can properly rewatch it
Interesting fact Mo Berg was a Baseball player
yes, and he played in the Major Leagues (the highest professional level). Berg has also been the subject of his own book/movie. That 2018 Berg movie starring Paul Rudd did not seem resonate with audiences nor critics.
Awesome
Paul is the mushroom cloud of my Pun dreams!
Whenever you say “your host Paul…” I long for the days of “your host definition!”
"Heavy spoilers ahead, so if you haven't cracked open a history book and educated yourself about something that happened almost 90 years ago... wow what are you doing with your life seriously"
Moe Berg reference! The funny thing is before I watched Oppenheimer for the first time this weekend. I actually watched “the catcher was a spy” not realizing both movies would kinda relate
We need: “Oppenheimer II, the sequel”
Learned more from this than school
@3.16, just over seventy one billion?
@5.17, kudos! I was thinking the same thing LOL
Thank you Paul.
No why did i actually laugh out loud at the breaking bad reference 😂😂😂😂😂
Because you have 0 respect for European victims
This film is my favourite so far of the year, I hope that Nolan goes further down the history route, dare I say a remake of JFK 😮.
I seen it twice. It was that good
MLK
RFK
The title is on Strauss Oppenheimer but the video was almost finished and it’s almost all about Heisenberg. Confusing.
He would have never won an assassination attempt from the non-aging Ant-Man himself.
I hope the next movie is about Richard Feynman.
Movie: heisenberg
My mind:”Jessie! We need to cook”
The movie was very good & I need to watch it again.
Give Cillian & RDJ oscars… what a great assemble of actors
Gary Oldman, and even Rami Malek!
The whole cast was bombastic!
"Focusing on hard water
.."
That will be heavy water (Deuterium) 😆
Yeah, that was a funny 😄
7:30 The security hearing was in 1954, not 1945
Awesome video!
Thank you 🙏
Great explanation about Heisenberg but your video title is totally misleading.
5:13 man I really wish that was true, Walter white the Heisenberg such a great show breaking bad
About Heisenberg, Hitler never really believed in the bomb or thought it would end all life on earth. Secondly Heisenberg knew he was not making any progress on it and went to beg niehls bohr for help who refused
Really loved the movie
The voice underneath the breakdown is an AI copy of your voice right?
That Clip Or Clipper o the steam getting the better of thou two. In the Heisenberg laboratory. That's WUS my days n Me
Quick question. Why did Iron Man character had to make Oppenheimer go throught that trail thingy and what was the ending scene with Einstein mean? Did the gov. just said they were sorry but not sorry in the end and just gave him a medal? English is my second language sorry
So to put it simply.
Strauss (RDJ's character) wanted his prestigious government position, but he was being overshadowed by Oppenheimer, so he conspired to destroy Oppenheimer's reputation and reframe himself as the hero.
And what Einstein said, meant that when they all apologised to Oppenheimer and gave him medals and such, they were only doing it because they felt guilty, and to make themselves feel better, not because they had realised Oppenheimer was actually right.
@@jmaitland5709 so Iron Man didnt do it because of the difference in politics views that Oppenheimer made him look like a fool and that he made Einstein ignored him?
@@Chavanun555 It was both I think. Oppenheimer did make him look like a fool its true. But because of how famous and respected Oppenheimer was, people everywhere valued Oppenheimer's opinions and views, which clashed with Strauss's views.
As an example: if we think about the scene at the dinner table when they found out the Russians had an atomic bomb too, Strauss wanted to build H-Bombs to counter them, Oppenheimer was opposed to that, and because of how much people respected Oppenheimer, people would choose to listen to him instead of Strauss.
@@jmaitland5709 the flower in the middle of the table scene right? Also so this also happens in real life as well or was the story with Iron Man abit different in real life
@@Chavanun555 Yes exactly, the scene where they had to move the flowers yes.
As for how accurate it is to real life, I think it is mostly accurate, but I don't know for certain.
Heisenberg, poor sap. Didn't realise how close he was to being whacked.
Heavy History. I’ll subscribe with alerts.
Heisenberg never figured out that graphite could be a substitute for heavy water to control nuclear flux. That made it impossible for Germany to create a bomb that could be delivered to a target.
I heard he also had a great relationship with the Texas Chicken Chain Los Pollos Hermanos owner Gus Fring
What happened to Heisenberg? I thought he became Walter White!😂😂
Mr. bean and The Muppets 😂😂
Tumor behind Oppi’s right ear can be seen during the film. He died of throat cancer.
Dude, where is alien resurrection?
I love Magnum ice lollies, yum
No doubt
Strauss was only Acting Secretary of Commerce.
I don't mean to ruin the video, but I cant see someone with the name Heisenberg without thinking of Walter White
Damn….
Not interested in seeing this movie but I love your break downs so you know commenting for the algorithm 👍🏾😁
Awesome! Thank you!
Hey bud it’s so random but will you be covering Twisted Metal with Anthony Mackie? I really enjoy it.
Hey man, nah unfortunately it’s difficult to get in the UK so I haven’t had a chance to watch it
@@heavyspoilers That sucks. Hopefully soon though bud, I think you’d enjoy it. Anthony Mackies comedy is gold. Well I’m sure you’ll see it soon. Hope you and the fam are doing great. Cheers! 🫡
So, if you’re intent on untangling the timeline with Strauss, maybe get your years right?
At 7:29, you state that the “closed hearings” occurred in 1945, when I assume they occurred in 1954, five years before the 1959 Strauss appointment hearings.
The thing that bugs me is that Oppenheimer only got his security clearance back last year and not back when they found out Strauss was smearing his name it really took a movie to come out and the world to now what happened back then to clear his name publicly that’s the us for u, I guess
Jesse Pinkman! Did not see that coming!😂😂
Not a lot of seats left in the IMAX theater in town and we ended up with a seat that was too close to the screen for my liking. I hurt my neck having to look so far up to the screen. I did not think the IMAX version added anything. Just my take, but I recommend seeing it in a regular theater if you have the choice.
I love th movie
Its one of the best movies ever
k...
71 trillion? Did I get that right? 😮
Emily Blunt during the communist membership party card discussion blew me away. She was amazing
yuck!!!!! i suppose you like commie sex scenes , to each his own ,i did not like this movie was very tacky in places
3:15 - $71 billion , a lot of money!
When is he gonna do his Barbie video though?
I would like to tell one thing, if people now it can be done it will be done. I have designed 3 products this way
LOL dawg 186k views but 4k likes. ooof.