1973 Pontiac Trans Am SD-455 Muscle Car Of The Week Video Episode

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 เม.ย. 2016
  • We're Hiring! v8speedshop.com/online-job-ap...
    www.v8speedshop.com/contact
    1973 Pontiac Trans Am SD-455 Muscle Car Of The Week Video Episode #148
    1973 was past the prime for most Muscle Cars, but this 1973 Pontiac Trans Am SD-455 begs to differ. The Super Duty 455 engine was a special heart for a rare bird, and this car is a great example of one of the last great first generation Muscle Cars from Pontiac. This Buccaneer Red 73 Trans Am SD455 proves that muscle car performance was still alive from Pontiac in 1973. A great Muscle Car Of The Week from The Brothers Collection.
    • 1973 Pontiac Trans Am ...
    #TransAm #MuscleCar #Musclecaroftheweek
    www.musclecaroftheweek.com -
    Take a tour of the V8 Speed & Resto Shop!
    Muscle Car Restoration Shop Tour at V8 Speed & Resto Shop
    • Muscle Car Restoration...
    V8 shirts, hats, and more:
    v8speedshop.com/shop/
  • ยานยนต์และพาหนะ

ความคิดเห็น • 115

  • @ronaldparker5365
    @ronaldparker5365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My dad had a 71-TA white with the blue stripe 455-SD,4speed.I believe this is the best American muscle car ever built, the 70-73. Hands down.

  • @DiamondCutter423
    @DiamondCutter423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My 1970 350 Firebird never left me stranded. When you accelerated, the car would sink lower to the ground the faster you went. Great car design.

  • @jetenginethrust863
    @jetenginethrust863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    70-73 2nd Gen Firebirds are one of my fav muscle cars of all time. I've been a PONTIAC MANIAC for over 40yrs :-)

    • @erictalkington5674
      @erictalkington5674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love lots of different old cars, and I love th 67 & 68 Firebirds a lot too, but yeah 70-73 are so beautiful. I love the Formulas too with the scoops from then as well. I don't like any Trans Am after 73 until the late 90's WS6. I have seen a lot of Formula 400's and even one that said Formula 455 but I haven't learned if that's factory or not? I like that I've seen some with the chin spoiler from the TA's and some without and both look great. Haven't seen pictures of a Formula yet with the chin spoiler and the rear tire flares from the TA's but they are all gorgeous. I just can't believe that they ruined such a beautiful look with the 74 style. Barf lol. I don't really like the Bandit style front ends but the 80-81 front ends have grown on me a little. Saw a dark blue 80 Trans Am with bird that looks kind of cool. One that is like a brown color that I just call Aztec gold because that's what it makes me think of lol, it's pretty cool lookin too, but naw. Those early 70's are incredible works of are. I love the Camaros from the same time, but they aren't my favorite. 69 Camaro has become my favorite with the 67 next and then 68 and then early 70's. Don't much care for the 69 Firebird or TA. Seen a couple that looked really good, but not many.

  • @AnthonyEvelyn
    @AnthonyEvelyn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the 70-73 body style Gen 2 Firebirds! I remember as a child seeing Formula Firebirds and Trans Ams on the streets in my fathers car and was always amazed with delight, same goes for other muscle cars and European sports GT cars of the era.

  • @chocodiledundee1
    @chocodiledundee1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Pontiac truly one of the pioneers on muscle cars history ❤️🙌🏼👍🏼👏🏼they truly didn’t let I go until the very end of the era ...Pontiac are up there truly beautiful muscle car history and legacy

  • @carsbyjeff
    @carsbyjeff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pontiac gave us the fabulous GTO in 1964 and the amazing SD 455 Firebird til 1974!!

  • @thomasmcnab5068
    @thomasmcnab5068 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great video!.... I had the same 1973 Brewster green Trans Am!...Great memories guys!

  • @cptnsolo77
    @cptnsolo77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There are very few muscle cars I would consider that have absolutely perfect styling. This is one...the other is the 68 Vette. Perfection. Just outstanding looking cars.

  • @PETERLINNAH
    @PETERLINNAH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Beautiful car. Gorgeous. I cry for the loss of style in today's cars.

  • @brendasnider7158
    @brendasnider7158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Even if your a Ford fan or a Mopar man or whatever,you have to admit those T/A 's looked pretty sweet !

  • @yavin99
    @yavin99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Of course it would be Pontiac that went out with a bang, we miss you Pontiac. The engine bay makes me think this car is unrestored.

  • @seangoodman665
    @seangoodman665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pontiac made the coolest cars period !

  • @jonnysl6560
    @jonnysl6560 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Same as my 73/74 sold in 76 Red with White 455 SD
    Missing Him now ,,,,,,,

    • @fogtown3027
      @fogtown3027 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jonny Sl I feel your pain

    • @74SD455TA
      @74SD455TA 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whats a 73/74? Which was it?, a 73 or a 74 or what?

  • @knyffeler
    @knyffeler 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love those early Gen II 'Birds, especially when they are this beautiful and special. Thanks Kevin! Thanks Brothers!

  • @papocam3853
    @papocam3853 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the SUPER DUTYS were the best performers for low compression & low/no lead gas engines of the '70s & 80's. they sold for a very high premium from wrecked cars in the junk yards. awesome engine to modify.

    • @michaeladams9629
      @michaeladams9629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Balanced and blue printed my 1971 455 HO in 1979 for an amazing $1949.58. That included muscling up the turbo 400 trans that came back with a note that said “you can’t break this”. Miss that car a lot. Now have a 2010 Camaro SS 6-speed. Very fun to drive as the 158,789 miles would tell you.

    • @sergiojacquez2277
      @sergiojacquez2277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaeladams9629 Nice but, i'll take the Trans am any day...

  • @KPearce57
    @KPearce57 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Best body style ever.

    • @kevinburk1670
      @kevinburk1670 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea as good as it gets i think this is based on the second gen camaro and chevy nova chasis my fav remember racing a amx jav..... fun times

  • @erictalkington5674
    @erictalkington5674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude, these videos are fuckin awesome! Thank you for teaching me lots of cool info about these old cars. I already learned about old Colt and Smith & Wesson revolvers, now I'm learning about the old cars. Very much appreciated.

  • @DennisOS2
    @DennisOS2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another highly informative video by V8TV. A lot of really good inside facts. And when Kevin opens his mouth, he sounds like a freaking college professor. And Herb Adams?? You’re doing some fine digging guys. Had many of his suspension pieces on my ’70 base ‘Bird way back in the day. The body still remains one of the most beautiful Bill Mitchell ever let out of his studios (GM Styling Staff). That's why I often wonder, if still around today and looking at his 2nd Gen Firebird ‘what would Bill Mitchell do?’

  • @chargermaster586
    @chargermaster586 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Rip muscle car era 1960-1974.

  • @Brian.8272
    @Brian.8272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so excited, I just bought an 81 turbo trans am, the same color. 45k original miles, mint condition

  • @cptdavidwebb
    @cptdavidwebb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brewster green is my favorite.

  • @noecker97
    @noecker97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PONCHO POWER!!! Started With 1962 Super Duty 421 Catalinas and Ended With 1974 Super Duty 455 Formula/Trans Ams!!!

  • @SGTJDerek
    @SGTJDerek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'll take a Formula 400/4spd😁.
    That hood just flat out hits me just right. The Shaker looks better on the '74+.

  • @davecalvo6418
    @davecalvo6418 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It was said this year was the best handling of all the pontiacs ever made to that date. I just looked online and there's an all original 1973 SD-455 Trans Am with manual transmission for sale and they are asking 234K!! for it... If I had money to burn I would prob buy it.

  • @gregorytimmons4777
    @gregorytimmons4777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The guy I know that had one stuffed it away in his barn. A few years later the barn roof caved in on it. Ouch!

  • @tomgeorge9025
    @tomgeorge9025 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My stock 2001 WS6 Trans Am
    325 HP.
    6-spd. With only 200.miles,
    Beat a 1996 LT4 Corvette 330 HP,
    on frwy,. 60-120 ..

  • @ckelley63
    @ckelley63 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I miss my 70 TA !

  • @jeff1385
    @jeff1385 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys that car is an absolute Masterpiece way to go

  • @clarkgriswold5903
    @clarkgriswold5903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a dream car, that's it!

  • @Ontariosound
    @Ontariosound ปีที่แล้ว

    Dream car if it was a 4 Speed.

  • @Lucille69caddy
    @Lucille69caddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BadASS!

  • @realtalk4689
    @realtalk4689 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful car

  • @clevlandblock
    @clevlandblock 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a brand new 73 TA in college. Downside: the front spoiler was too low and scraped on curbs, driveways, etc. Also the suspension was rock hard and my windshield cracked just going over some RR tracks at careful speed one time.

  • @willt9172
    @willt9172 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice! Wonder if the Brothers have a 73 ss 454 laying around they still had some grunt left in them!

  • @Formula400Pontiac
    @Formula400Pontiac 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Last year with that really nice front enduro nose.

  • @BlacKnightRising
    @BlacKnightRising 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    the last time a Pontiac Firebird looked bad-ass...

    • @davidribroma2425
      @davidribroma2425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You didn't like the Bandit?

    • @christopheryasus3666
      @christopheryasus3666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      76 was hot too

    • @BlacKnightRising
      @BlacKnightRising 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidribroma2425 I did like the Bandit, but the front-end just didn't do it for me like these models do is all...

  • @jeremythompson9122
    @jeremythompson9122 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Probably my favorite Pontiac ever made other than MAYBE a 62 Catalina 421 SD or a 69 GTO Ram Air IV(not a Judge). The 455SD is a much better street engine than a 421SD or 400 Ram Air IV...which were both pretty tempremental...particulary the 421SD

    • @carsbyjeff
      @carsbyjeff 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had the 1969 GTO Ram Air IV, non judge in 1970. Great Car but the worst drum brakes ever!

    • @74SD455TA
      @74SD455TA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@carsbyjeff Downshift, you could only heat those brakes up once and then they were too hot..........

  • @stretch54
    @stretch54 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ordered a 1973 Trans Am new. I wanted the Super Duty engine but at 19 years old and my Dad paying for it, he had the last say, which was "no way". It was a nice looking car inside and out but that's about it. It was a poorly made rattle trap with a severely choked down engine. American cars are much better built now.

    • @fogtown3027
      @fogtown3027 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My father ordered the SD option for his ‘74 TA but, it never happened. 🤦‍♂️

  • @geraldjyrkinen7420
    @geraldjyrkinen7420 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want one and to study this video on not what you have to do for epa. Standards. Hmm?i want it!

  • @Ticonderous1
    @Ticonderous1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn them Brother's have all the cars .... And i mean they have literally all the cars......

  • @edcain10
    @edcain10 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kevin,of MUSCLE CAR OF WEEK.,RESPECT UR KNOWLEDGE & EXPERTISE.ALWAYS HEARD THE 71 OR 72 SUPER DUTYS WERE 370 H.P.?

    • @banditrw27
      @banditrw27 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Ed Cain Those were actually 455 H.O. 's , the only engine available in the Trans Am. They were rated at 335 for the '71 and 300 for the '72....still put down high 13's in the 1/4 mile.The 370 HP engine was the '69/'70 Ram Air IV 400...if you broke off the retaining tab on the carburetor which prevented the secondaries from opening fully so as to limit the HP to less than the GTO Ram Air IV

    • @PepeRoldan1961
      @PepeRoldan1961 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct. The LS1 Ram Air Super Duty 400 ci was rated at 370 hp, same as RAIV, but it never made planned production for 1971. Source: The Definitive Firebird & Trans Am Guide 1970 1/2-1981 by Rocky Rotella.

  • @Lucille69caddy
    @Lucille69caddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't know the Golden Bear owned a car dealership, lol.

  • @robertwilhelm6886
    @robertwilhelm6886 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My buddy Jim bachor brought a 74 SD 455 Trans Am red with white interior force-feed home I had a fastest car he ever owned by far I had a 70 and a half Z28 4 speed 327 punched out 30 / Fountain Blue printed solid lifter cam work to the gills some scars for identical eat fast we couldn't beat each other by far the fastest car I ever owned and I owned car lots

  • @jeffbauer3425
    @jeffbauer3425 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a beautiful example of classic 70s American muscle. MAGA.

  • @geraldjyrkinen7420
    @geraldjyrkinen7420 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want one

  • @jonnysl6560
    @jonnysl6560 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Red with Cream 455 SD Auto

  • @jeremythompson9895
    @jeremythompson9895 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    73-74 sd455 t/a was really the ONLY muscle car left after 71. For 72 the Mopar hemi was gone and all American v8 engines turned into low compression boat anchors

    • @fogtown3027
      @fogtown3027 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeremy Thompson- Last of the Mohicans

    • @74SD455TA
      @74SD455TA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fogtown3027 The SD 455 cars would run with the 1970 and earlier hi comp cars with no issue. The SD 455 cars were bad ass.

  • @bigredc222
    @bigredc222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful car,.
    I wonder what you could get out of that motor by putting a bigger cam, higher compression pistons, 3" exhaust, and bigger carb or maybe fuel injection, wake that baby up.

  • @jbhann
    @jbhann 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love all Trans Am cars, but never liked that firebird decal.

  • @Deanyfromtheburgh
    @Deanyfromtheburgh 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ramp up the compression ratio to 10 to 1,and this will be ace.

    • @joequillun7790
      @joequillun7790 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree Al. It was killer even with the lo-comp, and EGR. Make it 11 to 1, an 041 cam, and dump the EGR, and it would've competed with some of Detroits best of any time.

    • @michaeladams9629
      @michaeladams9629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My balanced and blue printed 455 HO HAD 10.75/1 compression. After blowing the original rear end my Dad found a replacement out of an old Buick so went from a .307 to .273. And yes you could bounce the speed-o off the max at 160. So yes the good old days were fun.

  • @be2keen
    @be2keen 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wanna see more of these on the road instead of coddled in some guy's garage.

    • @chargermaster586
      @chargermaster586 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Warner Bauer i mean there enjoying retirement like there owner's and designers in retirement homes.

  • @chargermaster586
    @chargermaster586 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do pre 1972-1974 cars like a cuda dodge charger 442 satellite sebring roadrunner.

  • @workstationmark4103
    @workstationmark4103 ปีที่แล้ว

    1970 Pontiac Catalina 455 HO

  • @carsbyjeff
    @carsbyjeff 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine with slightly shaved heads and the Ram Air IV cam...

    • @74SD455TA
      @74SD455TA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happy to say I don't have to imagine, I have one and have had the heads decked and have a Nunzi Ram Air IV cam in it as well. Plus, rejetted the carburetor, added a 2200 stall speed and shift kit. Compression comes in a 8.75 to 1 and it has 2 shaker's, one open and one closed. Just as Pontiac engineer's envisioned. Good post from you for the recognition of these simple upgrades to add more power.

  • @bill84345
    @bill84345 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you find the production numbers (252 SD in 73). I always wanted to know how my GTOs were equipped with 421s and 428s

    • @grayfox4554
      @grayfox4554 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Go online at a GTO site. There's a couple of them. Also build a library of books. Try to buy old original ones. See what your local library carries and ask if they wanna sell their supply. Like a original edition book about Hurst Olds with the option codes and prices. It had a chapter about Hurst Grand Prix in there too. Priceless. Some new ones are kissing ### and don't want to encourage speed displays. (I'm not kidding here on that) Then you can be a brainiac and when some know nothing pops off with a dumb statement you got the knowledge and proof to back up your reply. Just be fearful of a house fire that destroys your boxes and boxes, volumes after volumes of material that you've collected which I can attest to is heartbreaking. Have fun.

    • @bill84345
      @bill84345 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have a link to a wibsite

    • @markg7030
      @markg7030 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      No 421 or 428 engines were sold but there was a story I read many years ago that car magazines were sent so called "ringers" for road tests.

    • @bill84345
      @bill84345 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know the first GTO for the road test was equipped with a 421, Dick Wagner confessed that several years after the fact. But when people say there were 50 of these and 200 of those they have to be getting that info from somewhere what and where is that info/list

  • @quentinraffensperger1699
    @quentinraffensperger1699 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    so this would have better performance than the 77 from Smokey & The Bandit?

    • @banditrw27
      @banditrw27 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      +Quentin Raffensperger Way faster than the '77.

    • @quentinraffensperger1699
      @quentinraffensperger1699 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      J Watkins thx.. ya that's what I thought. .. mid 70's had more regulations.. would you know if the Chevelle's had better performancethan a Trans Am or Camaro? like 1970 vs. 1970? just wondering cuz I love CChevelle's.

    • @banditrw27
      @banditrw27 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      For 1970, you had the Chevelle SS 454 LS6 rated at 450HP Gross,not net. In the Camaro Z-28 you got the 360HP LT1 350 or the Camaro SS with the 350HP 396 which was actually a 402 C.I. In the Trans Am you got either the 335HP Ram Air III or 345HP Ram Air IV, which could be increased to 370HP by breaking off a retaining Tab on the carb which prevented the secondaries from opening fully. The Ram Air IV's were barely streetable. I had one and it did not like low speed driving it was happy running at 4000RPM or higher and I only got just barely 8 MPG.All these are gross HP ratings meaning no belt driven accessories attached to the engine and measured at the flywheel.The Pontiac GTO came with the Ram Air III or IV 400 or the 455 H.O. which was severely underrated by Pontiac at only 366 HP and 500 ft/lbs torque. On the Buick/Oldsmobile side you got the 455 powered Buick GSX and the Olds 442 and like Pontiac, rated at 366HP but over 500 ft/lbs torque. All the 455 engines(and engines in general) were underrated for insurance purposes by the manufacturers. This was also the year GM lifted the 400 C.I. Limit on full size cars hence the 454/455 engines.For 1970 the LS6 Chevelle SS was king.

    • @quentinraffensperger1699
      @quentinraffensperger1699 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      J Watkins Thank you so much.

    • @quentinraffensperger1699
      @quentinraffensperger1699 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Azazel Acheron Ya for sure...Mustangs were a joke in the 70's.

  • @Deicidal776
    @Deicidal776 ปีที่แล้ว

    With that low compression ratio, did anyone slap a blower on that motor?

  • @geraldjyrkinen7420
    @geraldjyrkinen7420 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 79 with a 6.6.olds. motor. California emissions.. Garbage in comparison to the 455.selah

  • @jamescutler8055
    @jamescutler8055 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pontiac....the only thing GM ever did right. 70-81 Firebirds outstanding. 70-73 sexiest Firebirds. Sad the GM refused to save Pontiac. By the way, born and raised Ford guy here.

    • @joequillun7790
      @joequillun7790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree Jim about the 70-73 being the nicest T/A design, altho there were some other decent FBs over the years. I'm trying to get used to the new WS-6 4th gens, but can't get past the on board 'puter, even tho I'm sure the millennials won't understand, seeing they never experienced the days of these early cars.
      As for the Fords, I have lots of respect for the Clevelands, Boss 429s, Thunderbolts, ect. :)

    • @sergiojacquez2277
      @sergiojacquez2277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joequillun7790 Yes Sir, Nothing beats old school muscle cars....

  • @chutoparadinni5474
    @chutoparadinni5474 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are you SamSamurai??

  • @chrisamazonia3138
    @chrisamazonia3138 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    j'avais la même mais de 74 ... j'avais vendu ma Mustang 351 Cleveland pour l'acheter ..quelle erreur

  • @pelovett
    @pelovett 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The commentator is confusing the SD455 with the Ram Air V when he says the pushrods enter the intake ports and are contained in sleeves. Two different engines. The Ram Air V has "Tunnel Port" heads with the pushrods in the intake port, but the SD455 does not.

    • @pelovett
      @pelovett 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It turns out I am wrong. The SD 455 does have pushrods entering the intake port, contained in sleeves. Sorry Pontiac guys!

  • @chocodiledundee1
    @chocodiledundee1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The steering wheel and car and interior looks like Australian GM-H Monaro GTS/LE

  • @martybowen1
    @martybowen1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Went to school with a kid that worked and saved his money and bought one in 1980. It was a California special SD 455 4 Speed Pearl White with Blue bird and dark blue interior!! It would go from gas station to gas station faster than anything I'd ever seen !!LOL

    • @chutoparadinni5474
      @chutoparadinni5474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      California Special??

    • @whiteoak60
      @whiteoak60 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chutoparadinni5474 pearl white???

    • @thud9797
      @thud9797 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Old memories fade, ask me how I know! 😀

  • @billthompson5644
    @billthompson5644 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didnt they take the 389 ,421 or 326 out of the mothballs ?

    • @gregorytimmons4777
      @gregorytimmons4777 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      bill thompson They would have had to modify those to meet EPA regs too and you just would have had less cubes and at least in the case of the 421 a more expensive engine to produce as the SD 421 had better internal parts.

  • @grayfox4554
    @grayfox4554 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    gtoforum.com and gtoheaven.com should get you started. I did not look at these sites today. I hope they are still operating.
    There will/were be links to other sites. At least there used to be. I see now these are buried under like 6 pages full of people with their hand out looking to be paid for every bit of info. Ruins what the concept of the original internet was about.

  • @mdintesharulhaque6068
    @mdintesharulhaque6068 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    M S Dhoni Mahi ये कार खरीद ली है।

  • @Tigerloco70
    @Tigerloco70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think gm made a mistake , killing pontiac , and living buick , in 2009 crisis

    • @thud9797
      @thud9797 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Buick still selling well, Pontiac was struggling at the time. It was all business. You don't take a bailout and keep the dogs so Pontiac, Saturn and Hummer (civilian) were out.

  • @ckelley63
    @ckelley63 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I miss my 70 TA !