Due to a recent business conflict we can no longer supply a discount code for HHV products as promised. I sincerely apologize for this change; however, we have reached an irreconcilable point and must cut ties with HHV. That said, the VSO affiliates page has many others for VSO viewers to take advantage of. Thank you.
Helpful hint: generally all helmet designs are universal...so you can buy replacement pads/retention kits and upgrade your existing helmet. The comfort factor is well worth the cost and effort.
Agreed, you don't need a brand new shell you can just pick up a Team Wendy (or similar) liner and chin strap and instantly improve just about any helmet out there.
@@davidb9323 mlok is superior from a technical standpoint. It's a more durable connector system and at this point has as many if not more accessories available for it. The only reasons I would use ARC rails would be if I already had a helmet outfitted with them and therefore had accessories for them or if I had an opscore Amp headset because I don't believe those are compatible with Mlok but I could be completely wrong on the second point
Counterarguments: 1. just install some aftermarket pads and straps 2. just put some more velcro on the outside 3. just swap out the rail system 4. the advantage of arc rails is that its easier and faster to swap out attachments without having to unscrew anything
this. i bought a hudis tactical helmet for like $230 because its a 3a ballistic helmet but the strap style pushes the helmet against my forehead too much. i could shave down the front pad a little or just buy another strap system. currently in limbo on what to do about that.
@@alphawolfgang173 Just get the 50 dollar skydex pads and straps or make your own pads using pool noodle foam and those velcrow wall strips. I did it with my helmet and it works great
@@deltashot5608 i dont need to be that cheap, lol, but i get your point, its very doable. im just curious what budget suspension system would be best for a fast helmet. i already bought some pads so its comfy on the head, i just dont like that the suspension i have pushes my head forward so hard, and the dial on the back caught on my vests handle so i either get a new suspension system without a dial or restrain my handle.
@@alphawolfgang173 i personally dont use suspension because i use a small helmet and the pads alone create a tight fit. The only thing i dont like is that the top pad gets painful after a while because it's constantly being pressed onto my head. Its better to use the smallest helmet that can fit you so you have the least weight on your head and the most stationary fit
I bought the Long Fri helmet, and yes it was uncomfortable. But all I did was change the suspension and padding, and it was still a helluva lot less than HHV.
Bought the Longfri for $200 and added the HHV deluxe pads. Feels really nice and fits snug now. Great comfort and level 3A for $250 I'll tell you how HHV gets away with selling there's for $400. Their helmets are also made in China. They then add nice suspension and other extras, which are also made in China and you can add yourself.
@Archie I’m very aware of the retail merchandise “over here” that’s made in cHyNa, and make every attempt to avoid it. Sometimes I can, sometimes I can’t, but I try. You?
I agree, have ran vortex along with Nightforce on my long range rigs the glass is not as nice on vortex but it is totally repeatable and does an awesome job.
But he's right. They're Chinese believe it or not. Not saying it can't be good but you're supporting them and waaaay over paying for what they actually made it for on top of it cough cough apple
Cause….. it is. His video 6 months ago on that green one was “oh man this helmet is good for low budget” As soon as he gets gifted the HHV and gets a cut of sales. “Man that green helmet is dog shit. Buy this one instead!” At least your smart enough to catch that type of shit. Unlike the other 90% of his following that doesn’t realize this kid talks out of his ass 90% of the time. I figured that out 6 years ago when him and his friends were 3 years behind the curve. But his little fan boy base protect them at all costs cause theyre good at playing army 🤣
I run a team Wendy bump and it is the most comfortable helmet I’ve ever worn. Played with all those ballistic USGI helmets in the OIF era l. Now that I am more after defending things like my home and family, I choose the bump. So much more comfortable than a ballistic helmet. Especially if you just want to scope out around your property with your NOGs and dogs. Figure your practical application and make choices from there. Just my opinion and remember ounces equal pounds in pounds equal pain.
The moment you said their harness system is better than that ratcheting system... you lost me. This is not a real review, this is a review that is built to make sales of HHV helmets because it benefits you.
I have a surplus MICH and a Long Fri. MICH is a bit heavier with less attachment options. I upgraded the suspension and pads in the Long Fri for about $25. I enjoy wearing it now with or without hearing protection and nods
I recently got my PVS-14 and financially I gotta buy my kit in pieces. Ultimately I have aspirations to have both a helmet, which will likely be this helmet, and I also wanted to have the Crye Nightcap as a special purpose option for on the go when bringing a whole helmet is just too much bulk. So anyway I got the crye nightcap first because it’s much cheaper and it does absolutely does the job. It is limited in what it is capable of, but I wore it around hiking through the desert for 3 hours and it absolutely is functional and reasonably comfortable for what it is.
So I would disagree that it’s not an option at all, it will for the time being be my go to war option, and once I can spend money on a ballistic helmet, that will be my go to war option and the nightcap will fall into a low profile/edc/hiking role that I intended for it.
The reason the unity tactical ear pieces have that constant tension is because actual operators and law enforcement were having the click system you mentioned blown into the loose position effectively removing the seal on their ear pro from concussive blasts like door charges or something like that. The constant pressure was how Unity Tactical decided to deal with that in their particular design. Pretty sure it was Garand Thumb I heard this from. Also +1 for the HHV helmet. I know it isn't made in the USA but given how much stuff purchased that was made in the USA which now sits on top of this I couldn't pass up a well priced 3A rated helmet. Got mine LNIB for like $400 off ar15 equipment exchange. I'm sure if I got a $1200 helmet I would like it better but I'm pretty happy with the HHV. I could probably upgrade the pad system and such as well but it fits pretty snugly and doesn't feel uncomfortable. Overall it's a pretty good helm especially for $400.
@@outlawkaz6715 upgrading team wendy prolly won't happen due to their politics; pretty sure it's them that support leftist causes but I could be wrong. Anyways do you have a recommendation recommendation on a pad system?
@@nalinification Bro, everything is made in China now. We can't compete at the moment. Unfortunately, our "leadership" on both sides of the aisle sold the American people out long ago.
Was interested in your video, until 30 seconds in you mentioned HHV is being a “nice” helmet. Chinesium helmets aren’t nice. For just a bit more you can get a team Wendy, or for less you can get a older model Ops-Core that’s been tried and tested in combat. Also, swivel your ear pro to the rear, it’ll be more comfortable
@@VSO_Gun_Channel what do you mean traitor brand? I want to get a helmut and want to know the best bang for the buck. I do not want to go cheap but do not want to break the bank either.
Had to stop and comment about the unity hearing protection adapters. The ARC rail adapters would not maintain a seal on the ears during certain types of operations such a parachute operations, or during explosive entries to name a few. That is why the unity types do not lock away from your dome. You have the ability to rotate them up on the helmet if you do not need the hearing protection.
@@VSO_Gun_Channel holy sh!t I just looked it up, I had no idea they were backing the hildabeast and all the anti gun dems! I thought I was up on this crap, I’m still pissed at Ruger because that POS Bill Ruger supported the Clinton AWB in 92, and Bills been dead for like 25 years. Screw Wendy. Maybe that’s why that ratchet was in the bargain bin lol.
So question for the people that's prior military or currently serving. Are there any ballistic helmets I can purchase that's under army regulation? I don't want to purchase one if I'm not aloud to use it in the field.
Honestly, I bought a surplus PASGT helmet, refurbished it with a new suspension and strap system, and got a nice ballistic helmet for $150 total investment. It does not support muffs (I have Surefire plugs anyway), but clamping nightvision mounts are readily available. I can and have worn it for hours, with no discomfort, and there's zero movement when I move my head around. If you want something affordable that will save your life, and can be turned into something quite nice, a surplus helmet may be your best bet. In my opinion, a MICH is probably the best helmet to get from a value and capability standpoint (plus they're still made new), but virtually any helmet can be made much more capable with affordable aftermarket kits. Here's my issue with commercial-spec helmets: what you buy is what you get. They're proprietary, so there's no aftermarket support. With a military-pattern helmet, there's all sorts of accessories both military and commercial vendors have released over the years. If you want better padding, it's available. If you want better straps, you can get it. Your helmet didn't come with side rails? Someone makes them (there's often no-drill solutions as well). Want a ballistic shield? You can get it.
Best thing about the PASGT helmet compared to all the variety of FAST helmets is it actually covers your head, the side exposure of the FAST helmets is out of the question for me, if I could afford it I would just get a devtac ronin
@@c03_psychie20 From my understanding, the SF guys prefer the high cut because having good hearing and awareness is going to prevent you from getting shot a far greater % of the time than the amount of times the extra inch and a half of side protection is going to save you. There's also the consideration that neither the high cut, nor the low cut helmets are rated for rifle rounds, which is the majority of the weapons encountered. So why reduce your awareness when odds are the weapon hitting your helmet is likely to punch anyway?
@@oddeyeus2365 I own a PASGT helmet and it does not hinder my awareness. My point is that they use the FAST to attach things to it, but it offers less protection and has much less of a chance of a bullet ricochet, you could always get a headstrap to attach things to it rendering the FAST useless and only dead weight. In terms of rifle rated helmets, they do exist, but then the SF guys come up with brand new excuses even when the better(yes, yet heavier) gear can increase their chances of survival
@@c03_psychie20 That level of arrogance is pretty hilarious and impressive. 1st, how would you know if your awareness is hindered by wearing the PASGT or not? Have you gone out and actually tested it? Have you run through combat scenarios against real humans wearing the helmet vs not to see how much it affects your performance? How much it affects your ability to hear what others are saying to you? What ear pro do you wear under the PASGT? Normal plugs that reduce your hearing and make communication with teammates more difficult? Or do you slap a modern electronic ear pro on under it? How long did you trek through rough terrain in that setup to see just how bad and uncomfortable wedging ear pro under a PASGT is? Just because your own brain tells you that you aren't affected, doesn't mean it's true. Everyone likes to think that they are at peak performance. You're the hero of your own story. 2nd, I am going to trust the judgement of the thousands of SF troops that have spent millions of man hours down range with their lives on the line over your opinion. What reason would they have to "come up with excuses?" Yeah I don't think so. You know we have extremely extensive body armor setups, with plates for the torso, kevlar all around, shoulders, crotch, etc. Notice how you don't see that much in the field anymore? Because it sucks to wear it and move around in it that long and begins to degrade combat performance. Just because something is more protective doesn't mean it increases your overall chance of survival. Combat is dynamic and there are many factors at play. More armor is not always better. 3rd, Missions and mission necessities change. PASGT may work great for the situations that you are in or think you are going to find yourself in. It's a fine helmet. I own one, as well as an ECH, and a high cut. If I'm going to be vehicle borne and have no intentions of disembarking besides getting from A to B, I grab the ECH because the odds of getting hit from the sides and having glass flying are much higher in a vehicle situation and the weight and communication becomes much less relevant. Every helmet has its advantages and disadvantages, you can like your helmet and be confident in it, but don't trick yourself into believing it doesn't have its own drawbacks and doesn't hamper your awareness/hearing.
@@oddeyeus2365 what I said is just the protection ALONE and based off just wearing it, all those other factors will obviously have a much more complex affect based on the situation like you mentioned, so long story short take my opinion into account when staying in one fixed location for a long time wearing that form of protection, when moving and having to do many things over long hours...that's a different story. Also a perfect example where all that lightweight gear, awareness and communication goes out the window is the Niger ambush, that is is the standard equipment the soldiers prefer and was also the cause of their death. When I said the thing about excuses is when there is a possibility of creating better stronger armor but also lightweight to match the needs and still perform the same can be made but they'll create a new excuse not to wear it which actually means they're happy with the gear they already have regardless of the situation and what it requires
The hhv bump helmet has terrible retention compared with a team wendy boa or worm dial, hell even the occ dialis better so people need to understand that
Padding kits are cheap would fix your problems with both, there are 3 id recommend, two off amazon the pac foam and lux liner pad knockoff 4d by tnvc. My boatch helmet works just fine after the pad replaced
I solid ballistic Level IIIA helmet with pads and retention straps does not cost more than $450 (2022). If you want the rest such as ballistic face shields, rhino mounts, battery packs, ear orotection, commo, and NVG14s, up the ante.
Protection Group Denmark makes great ballistic helmets for great prices. I picked one up for 275 bones. It is one of the most comfortable helmets and it comes with everything you need to customize it for your noggin. The suspension system is one of the best that I have dealt with.
The helmets are the same here. Just add the upgrades later. This is a pointless video. You might as well point out the tan looks a lot more cool than the green....
Yeah, the retention system and everything can be solved aftermarket... I'd feel like what's more of a concern is actual ballistic shielding and maybe weight?
i got a cheap bump helmet and once i got all the mods to make it comfy I could’ve just bought a 400$ bump helmet and upgraded pads for same price. But also i’ve been upgrading it over years as i did get it when i was a 13 year old. So the stock pads worked for my head size at 13 were super uncomfortable at 17.
Just so everyone that watches this in the future knows... because I kind of had to dig for it... the HHV helmets are made in China. I do feel like they want you to believe that these are US made by veterans... kind of slimy IMO.
Both of them are made in china. HHV has been around awhile the where known by a different name when they first came out ( Balistic helmet company) was the name in the beginning I bought one for 400.00 so not much has changed.
So you basicly payed 400 bucks for the liner and the rails? I bought a helmet from aliexpress for 120 bucks and it has a similar liner. It also has arc rails, but I don't see that as a disadvantage.
I know hard head veterans goal is to help give mostly veterans a helmet that they can guarantee it can help them in a deployment without having the basic MICH helmet they get issued plus the new helmet pads HHV made gives people the extra comfort they may need, tho I think a good comparison would be the HHV helmet versus a Guard dog body armor helmet which is priced $350 but with code 704Tactical goes down to 315. (Not a sponsor just a way to save $35)
I'm not one to judge. Hell, first helmet rig was a skateboard helmet I got at a yard sale for $5, added a one-hole shroud my buddy hooked me up with, and a Rhino mount that I found at the Army surplus store for under $50. Uglier than sin, but it was all I could afford at the time.
never seen you do a vortex review. ill look thru your archive. i have had great luck with many vortex products. hmmmm. my eotechs are the best i have...for battery sales anyway.
I swear... People like this guy need to stop saying the HHv makes "quality helmets". HHV is Chinese crap. This guy has no authority on what he's saying.
I'm going to be converting a CVC DH-132b soon. Hopefully putting a quality suspension system will feel just as good as a high end ballistic helmet without the price tag of a Ops Core or a Team Wendy.
I converted my CVC shell and it’s fucking dope, now I have a fairly large head and wish I could’ve snagged a medium cause the large shell is huge but I just used some 4d pads and fits snug
Bro I still have my ACH from oif 07-08 and those velcro hook pads haven't failed me not even once,. matter of fact I just did an upgrade on the pads since the msa ones were jacked up after soo many years and I was ready to replace those velcro round pads were so hard to remove and the velcro itself was great that I decided to leave them alone, if it is not broke don't fix it. I replaced my pads with a brand new set of skydex (dunno if the company stil around but those were given to me as a gift so why not...) they feel great even tho my ach is heavy, it sits confortable in my head and haven't had an issue yet...
Not everyone has deep pockets like vso and not everyone tryn mount $10k nods on helmets. The el cheapo is good enuff if it holds its 3a ratings. Just tweak paddings for personal fitments
Well to be honest they're really isn't any rifle rated ballistic helmets..... Sure you might get lucky and get hit by a rifle round at far enough range that it either ricochets off or gets embedded into the material and moves around the back side of your helmet. Other than that even the military issue helmets are not rifle rated Sure they might protect against small arms but mostly what they're for is shrapnel and of course head protection.
ive never cared much for a helmet. truth be told, my time in the military soured me with them. but ive recently been wanting NODs and i may as well go with a mich helm to mount them on. now, question for you. ive found 100 dollar options for level 3A mich cut helms. and im wondering whats wrong with those? assuming the rating is correct and the spot for the rhino mount holds up of course. now, i have a bump helm. its just for things i may need a helmet for like riding a bicycle. and i can theoretically add a rhino mount to that. but why not get some head protection right? anyway. hope to hear from you, weird guy.
I bought a MICH helmet ($75)..Cut the "ears" out...added ARC rail ($60)...NVG Shroud ($60)...and Team Wendy CAM FIT™ Retention System ($114.00)...so I'm in a little over $300.00!
I just watched GARANDTHUMB and he was saying something about why it's not good to have that click out feature. I forget why. But I get why it's good to just move them instead of clicking
The ARC rail system is designed to NOT be solid, in the event of snag/impact the attached accessory is meant to breakaway at 8 ft lbs (11 nm) so it doesnt snap your neck... The ear protection mounts are constant pressure because breach and airborne dudes were having their eardrums blown out when the hold-off style mounts were spontaneously holding off at the wrong time from pressure; also some that held a high cheekweld with their rifle would have it pushed open by the buttstock.
I'm about to buy a HHV helmet. Dose anyone know if those "memory foam" pads are like the old Mitch helmet gel pads? Those things sucked so bad in my old helmet. On a cold day it was like they were concrete until they warmed up.
Their brightness on there red dots are horrible low powered, I have to crank the brightness to 9 or 10 just to see the dot I prefer holosun optics, and eotechs those are my go.toos, I went with a level III rated ops core fast helmet and a Russian ops core helmet cover. I just need to get nvg j arm and rhino Mount and ear pro mounts though to attach my pvs 14 nvg and ear pro
Lol. I’m just into this video and you’ve already got me trusting your judgement. Lol. Vortex. Is it Night Force? No. But as an avid archer I’ve ran Vortex Razor optics for years, as have my friends. Not to mention the many rifle scopes and other products of theirs I run like monoculars, binos and I’ve never had issues with them. Not saying some of my peers haven’t had to utilize the warranty, but every single person I know that’s had to use it was well taken care of.
Did you get your cast off already or is this an old vid. T.Y. BIG GUY. I don't do helmets, at least not yet, coin will not allow it. I still watched the vid. though, THANKS AGAIN.
Hey Brother can you do a video of the SHELLBACK TACTICAL LEVEL IIIA BALLISTIC HIGH CUT SF ACH HELMET there is no video anywhere and want to know your thoughts and if it can pass the stress and battle test thanks bro will be looking forward for that....
@SickCall Ranger th-cam.com/video/LH9ddMb83-U/w-d-xo.html It's a current issued helmet, but mainly to active units. The official rating is 7.62x51ball at 7.62x39 velocity It does leave a huge deformation. But there have been reports of people surviving 7.62x54r from a PKM to the back of a head at close range becauseof this. Also, it wouldn't be steel core rated as UHMWPE can't stop those.
Can u afford a gentex? If so u should try one out. They got like 3 diff models and would enjoy your take on thw higher end ones. U can prob get a used TW helmet so ur not giving them ur money
yeah, the minute you said HHV i just.stopped the Video. too many vids on YT with HHV helmets suffering back face deformation against different rounds in all tests. HHV made in China also. Save your money, buy a HHV or Save your Life, buy an Ops Core. easy choise for me.
Just wanted to say thank you for this video and have resubscribed. The "poor" comment I took...poorly... in your last helmet video, and lambasted you for in my last comment, was misinterpreted and I should have given you more of a chance. I blame Brandon Herrera and his fascination with talking down about the "poors", and my own misplaced aggravation at that unnecessary negativity. Trust me, anyone who falls in that category really doesnt want to be there. Why would anyone not want them to feel not just like they belong but that their lives matter too? Any 2A supporter, regardless of income bracket, should be welcomed with open arms and any information or assistance we can all share amongst us will only make us stronger as a community and as a country. Again, sorry for snapping when it wasn't warranted and thank you for the great follow up video.
Your original option was right. These kids have been faking the funk for the last 10 years. If you watch his last video and watch this one it’s obvious he’s only happy to sell this one cause they gave it to him and he gets a cut of the sales using his coupon code. They’ve always favored the companies that send them product or a check. And like his last one they talk out of their ass. He buys his first brain bucket and acts like he’s been using them for years. Then not even 6 months later makes this video trashing that helmet he said was a good option not more than 6 months ago.
@@mrmidnight32 I was out of line in what I had originally said so my apology for that was sincere and necessary. But, not being a rich man or one who gets products sent to him for free I have to be reasonable. I appreciate his sales pitch. But I'm just here to get ideas and see testing. Just like my vehicle situation. Would I prefer a Raptor 6x6 to my beat to hell 92 Dakota? Well, yeah. Who wouldn't. But I'm a single dad busting my ass to get by one day at a time, slowly building up and upgrading my kit as I can. After much research and pricing my options I bought myself and daughter each an ACH for under $200 combined. 2 helmets for less than half the price of one of his. It stops the same calibers and covers a lot more area then the tiny, high speed one's everyone seems to fancy these days. If things really do go south one day I think I'll be glad I have my ears and nape protected and my poor mans steel 11x14s for my chest. I'd rather look uncool and live to fight another day than to leave behind an overpriced corpse when the SHTF.
@@KyleKalevra I won't argue the ACH, I used one for years until switching to an Avon. But steel is just not good, it can be defeated by m193, you can get good deals on ceramics these days.
Due to a recent business conflict we can no longer supply a discount code for HHV products as promised. I sincerely apologize for this change; however, we have reached an irreconcilable point and must cut ties with HHV. That said, the VSO affiliates page has many others for VSO viewers to take advantage of. Thank you.
Now that's funny, maybe you should stop shilling shitty products. Just food for thought
I am too curious. Any additional details you're allowed to disclose would be appreciated.
@@krumpsak let me guess, you use traitor brand?
Hahahaha I remember watching this video originally and being shocked you would recommend such a dog water company
You should stitch Velcro in and on the pad so they aren't permanently stitched in but can be replaced to 8)
Yea. I did my homework. Then realized the setup I want was $20k
Playing soldier is expensive.
Hey guess what ? You can join the US ARMY as a Infantrymen and get issued nice gear for free! Omg I know mind blown! MIND BLOWN!
@@TheInfantry98 that gear belongs to the tax payer not you
@@TheInfantry98 I prefer to larp
TheInfantry98 actually grunts get pretty crappy gear compared to socom units
Helpful hint: generally all helmet designs are universal...so you can buy replacement pads/retention kits and upgrade your existing helmet. The comfort factor is well worth the cost and effort.
Agreed, you don't need a brand new shell you can just pick up a Team Wendy (or similar) liner and chin strap and instantly improve just about any helmet out there.
Need a survey of m-loc or ARC Rail
@@davidb9323 mlok is superior from a technical standpoint. It's a more durable connector system and at this point has as many if not more accessories available for it. The only reasons I would use ARC rails would be if I already had a helmet outfitted with them and therefore had accessories for them or if I had an opscore Amp headset because I don't believe those are compatible with Mlok but I could be completely wrong on the second point
@@death31313 Unity Tactical makes the Platform Adapter for M-LOK for Opscore Amp compatibility.
@@GB-01 I stand corrected, gotta love unity tactical, they make some really cool stuff. Thanks for the info.
Counterarguments:
1. just install some aftermarket pads and straps
2. just put some more velcro on the outside
3. just swap out the rail system
4. the advantage of arc rails is that its easier and faster to swap out attachments without having to unscrew anything
this. i bought a hudis tactical helmet for like $230 because its a 3a ballistic helmet but the strap style pushes the helmet against my forehead too much. i could shave down the front pad a little or just buy another strap system. currently in limbo on what to do about that.
@@alphawolfgang173
Just get the 50 dollar skydex pads and straps or make your own pads using pool noodle foam and those velcrow wall strips. I did it with my helmet and it works great
@@deltashot5608 i dont need to be that cheap, lol, but i get your point, its very doable. im just curious what budget suspension system would be best for a fast helmet. i already bought some pads so its comfy on the head, i just dont like that the suspension i have pushes my head forward so hard, and the dial on the back caught on my vests handle so i either get a new suspension system without a dial or restrain my handle.
@@alphawolfgang173 i personally dont use suspension because i use a small helmet and the pads alone create a tight fit. The only thing i dont like is that the top pad gets painful after a while because it's constantly being pressed onto my head. Its better to use the smallest helmet that can fit you so you have the least weight on your head and the most stationary fit
5. the cheap helmet is probably a knockoff chinese helmet
I bought the Long Fri helmet, and yes it was uncomfortable. But all I did was change the suspension and padding, and it was still a helluva lot less than HHV.
What suspension system did you swap it out with? im thinking about upgrading the padding, since the dial tension isnt great.
@@poortac5568 I recommend the Team Wendy or Ops Core systems.
That’s cause you have common sense and didn’t get paid to make this video like he did lol
Hardware aside, it's likely the same helmet produced in the same factory in China anyway as the HHV.
@@xXjOmAmMaXx really? Mmmmm
Bought the Longfri for $200 and added the HHV deluxe pads. Feels really nice and fits snug now. Great comfort and level 3A for $250
I'll tell you how HHV gets away with selling there's for $400. Their helmets are also made in China. They then add nice suspension and other extras, which are also made in China and you can add yourself.
They will be American Made in the New year I believe
Made in chyna?? Ok, nvm.
@Archie I’m very aware of the retail merchandise “over here” that’s made in cHyNa, and make every attempt to avoid it. Sometimes I can, sometimes I can’t, but I try.
You?
@@r.u.sirius7423 till u try brainin an invading chinese and his helmet works😂😂
I'd be surprised if it was really level 3A though
That vortex comment really stung tbh 😢
I agree, have ran vortex along with Nightforce on my long range rigs the glass is not as nice on vortex but it is totally repeatable and does an awesome job.
But he's right. They're Chinese believe it or not. Not saying it can't be good but you're supporting them and waaaay over paying for what they actually made it for on top of it cough cough apple
@@unleasheth just like him supporting hard head veterans that make their helmets in China lol.
5 mins into the vid and it sound like a sale pitch for HHV helmet.
....and there is coincidentally a coupon code.
Cause….. it is.
His video 6 months ago on that green one was “oh man this helmet is good for low budget”
As soon as he gets gifted the HHV and gets a cut of sales. “Man that green helmet is dog shit. Buy this one instead!”
At least your smart enough to catch that type of shit. Unlike the other 90% of his following that doesn’t realize this kid talks out of his ass 90% of the time.
I figured that out 6 years ago when him and his friends were 3 years behind the curve. But his little fan boy base protect them at all costs cause theyre good at playing army 🤣
"High quality" and "Hard Headed Veterans" do not belong in the same sentence as eachother
HHV is chinesium. US made will eventually be out at 850ish.
I run a team Wendy bump and it is the most comfortable helmet I’ve ever worn. Played with all those ballistic USGI helmets in the OIF era l. Now that I am more after defending things like my home and family, I choose the bump. So much more comfortable than a ballistic helmet. Especially if you just want to scope out around your property with your NOGs and dogs. Figure your practical application and make choices from there. Just my opinion and remember ounces equal pounds in pounds equal pain.
The moment you said their harness system is better than that ratcheting system... you lost me. This is not a real review, this is a review that is built to make sales of HHV helmets because it benefits you.
I have a surplus MICH and a Long Fri. MICH is a bit heavier with less attachment options. I upgraded the suspension and pads in the Long Fri for about $25. I enjoy wearing it now with or without hearing protection and nods
In theory, you could by the cheap one, add Velcro and padding and still be good!
As a HHV owner, I though the bad helmet was going to be a HHV...
I recently got my PVS-14 and financially I gotta buy my kit in pieces. Ultimately I have aspirations to have both a helmet, which will likely be this helmet, and I also wanted to have the Crye Nightcap as a special purpose option for on the go when bringing a whole helmet is just too much bulk. So anyway I got the crye nightcap first because it’s much cheaper and it does absolutely does the job. It is limited in what it is capable of, but I wore it around hiking through the desert for 3 hours and it absolutely is functional and reasonably comfortable for what it is.
So I would disagree that it’s not an option at all, it will for the time being be my go to war option, and once I can spend money on a ballistic helmet, that will be my go to war option and the nightcap will fall into a low profile/edc/hiking role that I intended for it.
The reason the unity tactical ear pieces have that constant tension is because actual operators and law enforcement were having the click system you mentioned blown into the loose position effectively removing the seal on their ear pro from concussive blasts like door charges or something like that. The constant pressure was how Unity Tactical decided to deal with that in their particular design. Pretty sure it was Garand Thumb I heard this from. Also +1 for the HHV helmet. I know it isn't made in the USA but given how much stuff purchased that was made in the USA which now sits on top of this I couldn't pass up a well priced 3A rated helmet. Got mine LNIB for like $400 off ar15 equipment exchange.
I'm sure if I got a $1200 helmet I would like it better but I'm pretty happy with the HHV. I could probably upgrade the pad system and such as well but it fits pretty snugly and doesn't feel uncomfortable. Overall it's a pretty good helm especially for $400.
Had an hhv balistic then upgraded to a team wendy and id never go back. At least change out the pads and put the cam system in your hhv
@@outlawkaz6715 upgrading team wendy prolly won't happen due to their politics; pretty sure it's them that support leftist causes but I could be wrong. Anyways do you have a recommendation recommendation on a pad system?
@@DeplorableKitty So supporting Chinese communists is ok, but supporting US leftists is not? Gotcha!
@@nalinification Bro, everything is made in China now. We can't compete at the moment. Unfortunately, our "leadership" on both sides of the aisle sold the American people out long ago.
@@nalinification they're the same thing, so support neither.
Was interested in your video, until 30 seconds in you mentioned HHV is being a “nice” helmet. Chinesium helmets aren’t nice. For just a bit more you can get a team Wendy, or for less you can get a older model Ops-Core that’s been tried and tested in combat.
Also, swivel your ear pro to the rear, it’ll be more comfortable
I don’t care where it’s assembled. Team Wendy is traitor brand
Team Wendy is at the low end $1k.
Chinesium is at the low end sub $200.
@@VSO_Gun_Channel what do you mean traitor brand? I want to get a helmut and want to know the best bang for the buck. I do not want to go cheap but do not want to break the bank either.
Had to stop and comment about the unity hearing protection adapters. The ARC rail adapters would not maintain a seal on the ears during certain types of operations such a parachute operations, or during explosive entries to name a few. That is why the unity types do not lock away from your dome. You have the ability to rotate them up on the helmet if you do not need the hearing protection.
I found a team Wendy ratcheting helmet liner at a surplus store bargain bin and put it in a lower budget bump helmet, works great.
No traitor products
@@VSO_Gun_Channel what did they do? I just seen it as a good ratchet system, thanks.
@@VSO_Gun_Channel holy sh!t I just looked it up, I had no idea they were backing the hildabeast and all the anti gun dems! I thought I was up on this crap, I’m still pissed at Ruger because that POS Bill Ruger supported the Clinton AWB in 92, and Bills been dead for like 25 years. Screw Wendy. Maybe that’s why that ratchet was in the bargain bin lol.
So question for the people that's prior military or currently serving. Are there any ballistic helmets I can purchase that's under army regulation? I don't want to purchase one if I'm not aloud to use it in the field.
I would ask your command. Does no one in your unit wear a commercial helmet? My battalion does and we're just Reservists.
@@WilldaBear we just use the ach that's issued. I was just wondering.
@@luigi7781 Same here. I see a handful with the Ops Core helmets during my range days.
@@WilldaBear I see. Well thanks anyways.
Honestly, I bought a surplus PASGT helmet, refurbished it with a new suspension and strap system, and got a nice ballistic helmet for $150 total investment. It does not support muffs (I have Surefire plugs anyway), but clamping nightvision mounts are readily available. I can and have worn it for hours, with no discomfort, and there's zero movement when I move my head around. If you want something affordable that will save your life, and can be turned into something quite nice, a surplus helmet may be your best bet. In my opinion, a MICH is probably the best helmet to get from a value and capability standpoint (plus they're still made new), but virtually any helmet can be made much more capable with affordable aftermarket kits.
Here's my issue with commercial-spec helmets: what you buy is what you get. They're proprietary, so there's no aftermarket support. With a military-pattern helmet, there's all sorts of accessories both military and commercial vendors have released over the years. If you want better padding, it's available. If you want better straps, you can get it. Your helmet didn't come with side rails? Someone makes them (there's often no-drill solutions as well). Want a ballistic shield? You can get it.
Best thing about the PASGT helmet compared to all the variety of FAST helmets is it actually covers your head, the side exposure of the FAST helmets is out of the question for me, if I could afford it I would just get a devtac ronin
@@c03_psychie20 From my understanding, the SF guys prefer the high cut because having good hearing and awareness is going to prevent you from getting shot a far greater % of the time than the amount of times the extra inch and a half of side protection is going to save you. There's also the consideration that neither the high cut, nor the low cut helmets are rated for rifle rounds, which is the majority of the weapons encountered. So why reduce your awareness when odds are the weapon hitting your helmet is likely to punch anyway?
@@oddeyeus2365 I own a PASGT helmet and it does not hinder my awareness. My point is that they use the FAST to attach things to it, but it offers less protection and has much less of a chance of a bullet ricochet, you could always get a headstrap to attach things to it rendering the FAST useless and only dead weight. In terms of rifle rated helmets, they do exist, but then the SF guys come up with brand new excuses even when the better(yes, yet heavier) gear can increase their chances of survival
@@c03_psychie20 That level of arrogance is pretty hilarious and impressive. 1st, how would you know if your awareness is hindered by wearing the PASGT or not? Have you gone out and actually tested it? Have you run through combat scenarios against real humans wearing the helmet vs not to see how much it affects your performance? How much it affects your ability to hear what others are saying to you? What ear pro do you wear under the PASGT? Normal plugs that reduce your hearing and make communication with teammates more difficult? Or do you slap a modern electronic ear pro on under it? How long did you trek through rough terrain in that setup to see just how bad and uncomfortable wedging ear pro under a PASGT is? Just because your own brain tells you that you aren't affected, doesn't mean it's true. Everyone likes to think that they are at peak performance. You're the hero of your own story.
2nd, I am going to trust the judgement of the thousands of SF troops that have spent millions of man hours down range with their lives on the line over your opinion. What reason would they have to "come up with excuses?" Yeah I don't think so. You know we have extremely extensive body armor setups, with plates for the torso, kevlar all around, shoulders, crotch, etc. Notice how you don't see that much in the field anymore? Because it sucks to wear it and move around in it that long and begins to degrade combat performance. Just because something is more protective doesn't mean it increases your overall chance of survival. Combat is dynamic and there are many factors at play. More armor is not always better.
3rd, Missions and mission necessities change. PASGT may work great for the situations that you are in or think you are going to find yourself in. It's a fine helmet. I own one, as well as an ECH, and a high cut. If I'm going to be vehicle borne and have no intentions of disembarking besides getting from A to B, I grab the ECH because the odds of getting hit from the sides and having glass flying are much higher in a vehicle situation and the weight and communication becomes much less relevant. Every helmet has its advantages and disadvantages, you can like your helmet and be confident in it, but don't trick yourself into believing it doesn't have its own drawbacks and doesn't hamper your awareness/hearing.
@@oddeyeus2365 what I said is just the protection ALONE and based off just wearing it, all those other factors will obviously have a much more complex affect based on the situation like you mentioned, so long story short take my opinion into account when staying in one fixed location for a long time wearing that form of protection, when moving and having to do many things over long hours...that's a different story. Also a perfect example where all that lightweight gear, awareness and communication goes out the window is the Niger ambush, that is is the standard equipment the soldiers prefer and was also the cause of their death. When I said the thing about excuses is when there is a possibility of creating better stronger armor but also lightweight to match the needs and still perform the same can be made but they'll create a new excuse not to wear it which actually means they're happy with the gear they already have regardless of the situation and what it requires
The hhv bump helmet has terrible retention compared with a team wendy boa or worm dial, hell even the occ dialis better so people need to understand that
No traitor brands here
Padding kits are cheap would fix your problems with both, there are 3 id recommend, two off amazon the pac foam and lux liner pad knockoff 4d by tnvc. My boatch helmet works just fine after the pad replaced
I solid ballistic Level IIIA helmet with pads and retention straps does not cost more than $450 (2022). If you want the rest such as ballistic face shields, rhino mounts, battery packs, ear orotection, commo, and NVG14s, up the ante.
Protection Group Denmark makes great ballistic helmets for great prices. I picked one up for 275 bones. It is one of the most comfortable helmets and it comes with everything you need to customize it for your noggin. The suspension system is one of the best that I have dealt with.
Weren't they found out to be Chinese made ?
I remember reading something about it
@@goose33 yea I heard that too. heard the same about hhv
The helmets are the same here. Just add the upgrades later. This is a pointless video. You might as well point out the tan looks a lot more cool than the green....
This is fact, they are all supposed to be made similar or the same.
Yeah, the retention system and everything can be solved aftermarket... I'd feel like what's more of a concern is actual ballistic shielding and maybe weight?
i got a cheap bump helmet and once i got all the mods to make it comfy I could’ve just bought a 400$ bump helmet and upgraded pads for same price. But also i’ve been upgrading it over years as i did get it when i was a 13 year old. So the stock pads worked for my head size at 13 were super uncomfortable at 17.
The cheap IIIA helmets are $160 on ebay. PS: All helmets are uncomfortable. If you're holding out for a comfortable helmet, you'll never buy one.
Just so everyone that watches this in the future knows... because I kind of had to dig for it... the HHV helmets are made in China. I do feel like they want you to believe that these are US made by veterans... kind of slimy IMO.
They got blasted for that a long time ago and recently moved production to Texas.
@@josiahkepley oh thanks for educating me on that.
Why hating on Vortex?
Well if CorporateTube does delete your channel I just wanted to say thank you for all you have done!
What about older Helmetss m80 Kevlars from 90s - early 2000s but updated.
Both of them are made in china. HHV has been around awhile the where known by a different name when they first came out ( Balistic helmet company) was the name in the beginning I bought one for 400.00 so not much has changed.
You don't know how they are making money while selling a helmet for $485? You must not be aware their helmets are made in Chy-Nuh.
So you basicly payed 400 bucks for the liner and the rails?
I bought a helmet from aliexpress for 120 bucks and it has a similar liner.
It also has arc rails, but I don't see that as a disadvantage.
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Lol I stop watching when he said his high price helmet was HHV. Lol get that Chinese paper mache helmet out of here
...How about an update for the new latticework suspension.
I know hard head veterans goal is to help give mostly veterans a helmet that they can guarantee it can help them in a deployment without having the basic MICH helmet they get issued plus the new helmet pads HHV made gives people the extra comfort they may need, tho I think a good comparison would be the HHV helmet versus a Guard dog body armor helmet which is priced $350 but with code 704Tactical goes down to 315. (Not a sponsor just a way to save $35)
Brain Buckets by Billy has decent prices for 3a helmets. Grabbed one recently and he did a good job putting it together.
I'm not one to judge. Hell, first helmet rig was a skateboard helmet I got at a yard sale for $5, added a one-hole shroud my buddy hooked me up with, and a Rhino mount that I found at the Army surplus store for under $50.
Uglier than sin, but it was all I could afford at the time.
never seen you do a vortex review. ill look thru your archive. i have had great luck with many vortex products. hmmmm. my eotechs are the best i have...for battery sales anyway.
So how do the HHV helmets work with a gas mask? I’ve considered getting the HHV for awhile seeing the adds of FB.
Works just fine with my MSA gas mask!
Jw, why do you hang all your firearms upside down on the wall behind you?
I swear... People like this guy need to stop saying the HHv makes "quality helmets". HHV is Chinese crap. This guy has no authority on what he's saying.
I wonder how much HHv paid him.
I ordered a fairly expensive Ops-Core helmet a few months ago. Still waiting for it, and hoping it turns out to be what I had in mind.
The stock pads suck. Switch to 4D Zero G pads.
@@jhalscott Thanks.
I'm going to be converting a CVC DH-132b soon. Hopefully putting a quality suspension system will feel just as good as a high end ballistic helmet without the price tag of a Ops Core or a Team Wendy.
I converted my CVC shell and it’s fucking dope, now I have a fairly large head and wish I could’ve snagged a medium cause the large shell is huge but I just used some 4d pads and fits snug
@@braxtontompkins7737 I got the large as well for the same reason. Adding padding is easier than making your head smaller.
Bro I still have my ACH from oif 07-08 and those velcro hook pads haven't failed me not even once,. matter of fact I just did an upgrade on the pads since the msa ones were jacked up after soo many years and I was ready to replace those velcro round pads were so hard to remove and the velcro itself was great that I decided to leave them alone, if it is not broke don't fix it. I replaced my pads with a brand new set of skydex (dunno if the company stil around but those were given to me as a gift so why not...) they feel great even tho my ach is heavy, it sits confortable in my head and haven't had an issue yet...
Are helmets from tachelmet legit? They have level 4 helmets for mid 200s that are supposedly nij certified
I'm still waiting for someone to make functioning Mandalorian armor and helmet before I start spending my hard earn money
Too heavy and bulky unless you want to waddle around in 100 lbs ceramic or 200 lbs steel
There is already the helmet
Look into galac tech armor
Now you can make a video of you shooting that unwanted helmet with the highest caliber it's rated for.
What is your thoughts on the Redemption tactical helmet
Never looked at a helmet in my life so appreciate the info
Not everyone has deep pockets like vso and not everyone tryn mount $10k nods on helmets. The el cheapo is good enuff if it holds its 3a ratings. Just tweak paddings for personal fitments
it does hold its rating, we shot one 🇺🇸
The way they’re making money is the armor level. It’s only IIIA without the upgrade frontal plate. If you tack that on, it gets pretty pricey.
Well to be honest they're really isn't any rifle rated ballistic helmets..... Sure you might get lucky and get hit by a rifle round at far enough range that it either ricochets off or gets embedded into the material and moves around the back side of your helmet.
Other than that even the military issue helmets are not rifle rated Sure they might protect against small arms but mostly what they're for is shrapnel and of course head protection.
ive never cared much for a helmet.
truth be told, my time in the military soured me with them.
but ive recently been wanting NODs and i may as well go with a mich helm to mount them on.
now, question for you.
ive found 100 dollar options for level 3A mich cut helms. and im wondering whats wrong with those? assuming the rating is correct and the spot for the rhino mount holds up of course.
now, i have a bump helm. its just for things i may need a helmet for like riding a bicycle. and i can theoretically add a rhino mount to that.
but why not get some head protection right?
anyway. hope to hear from you, weird guy.
Your "nice" helmet is a HHV? Bruh.
Can u switch out the rails on the HHV?
You said nice helmet not HHV
You have any recommendations for a helmet light? Flood light is preferable for my current needs.
I bought a MICH helmet ($75)..Cut the "ears" out...added ARC rail ($60)...NVG Shroud ($60)...and Team Wendy CAM FIT™ Retention System ($114.00)...so I'm in a little over $300.00!
I just watched GARANDTHUMB and he was saying something about why it's not good to have that click out feature. I forget why. But I get why it's good to just move them instead of clicking
Oh ya because it didnt click down all the way and it was at a moment where it wasn't good for sound vs hearing.
Does the hhv have a helmet cover you can buy off of hhv, that fits the ate hhv version
The ARC rail system is designed to NOT be solid, in the event of snag/impact the attached accessory is meant to breakaway at 8 ft lbs (11 nm) so it doesnt snap your neck... The ear protection mounts are constant pressure because breach and airborne dudes were having their eardrums blown out when the hold-off style mounts were spontaneously holding off at the wrong time from pressure; also some that held a high cheekweld with their rifle would have it pushed open by the buttstock.
I had an hhv bump, it was cheap garbage. Now I run a $100 mich instead.
Glad to see jake from two and a half men grew up.
I'm about to buy a HHV helmet. Dose anyone know if those "memory foam" pads are like the old Mitch helmet gel pads? Those things sucked so bad in my old helmet. On a cold day it was like they were concrete until they warmed up.
I have the HHV helmet, would recommend.
Me too, they are legit.
that back face deformation will get you killed.
@@SkintSNIPER262 what are you talking about bro, back face deformation?
@@anonymouscitizen2732 you're spending money on armour and haven't done a single ounce of research?
Great video! Thanks from the uk.
Solid commercial. I have an HHV bump and it’s decent.
Chinese helmet vs Chinese helmet... lots of guys selling done up ACH US made helmets for sub-400.
HHV had an Instagram add running with those for well under $400.
You got the link?
But shipping and processing is over a month..
I like your non price talk, first time watching you and its 2 years later. keep it up 👍
Their brightness on there red dots are horrible low powered, I have to crank the brightness to 9 or 10 just to see the dot I prefer holosun optics, and eotechs those are my go.toos, I went with a level III rated ops core fast helmet and a Russian ops core helmet cover. I just need to get nvg j arm and rhino Mount and ear pro mounts though to attach my pvs 14 nvg and ear pro
Lol. I’m just into this video and you’ve already got me trusting your judgement. Lol. Vortex. Is it Night Force? No. But as an avid archer I’ve ran Vortex Razor optics for years, as have my friends. Not to mention the many rifle scopes and other products of theirs I run like monoculars, binos and I’ve never had issues with them. Not saying some of my peers haven’t had to utilize the warranty, but every single person I know that’s had to use it was well taken care of.
But consider, it’s cheaper to retrofit the cheaper helmet to work and be comfortable vs the HHV helmet.
Thank you for video. Will get Opscore or Team Wendy
Did you get your cast off already or is this an old vid. T.Y. BIG GUY. I don't do helmets, at least not yet, coin will not allow it. I still watched the vid. though, THANKS AGAIN.
My strikefire 2 is solid, not sure why you are busting on vortex.
I was looking at at tactical helmet on Amazon and I was thinking $60 was kind of pricey, boy was I wrong
Hey Brother can you do a video of the SHELLBACK TACTICAL LEVEL IIIA BALLISTIC HIGH CUT SF ACH HELMET there is no video anywhere and want to know your thoughts and if it can pass the stress and battle test thanks bro will be looking forward for that....
You can get a tw helmet with sezzle and hcc tactical has the opscore ones and u can do laybuy
Tw is traitor brand. No go
I didn’t see sezzle listed as a payment option on their site. Where can you buy their stuff with sezzle?
@@VSO_Gun_Channel And you are not a traitor when you support a communist country that makes these?
How do they make money!? Manufacture in China and mark it up 2000%.
HHV helmets are cheap because they’re made in China, they will stop what they say they do but back face deformation is pretty extreme
Good to know im not the only one who looks like dark helmet when i dawn one ...lol
Looks like he has shitty helmet pads. He prob wouldnt buy the good ones since theyre made by team wendy. Which is his perogative
Man HHV is like the cheep vortex of head protection. Or PSA if you will.
Why are your guns upside down?
Rifle rated ECH helmet for $450 with NVG bracket on eBay?
@SickCall Ranger th-cam.com/video/LH9ddMb83-U/w-d-xo.html
It's a current issued helmet, but mainly to active units.
The official rating is 7.62x51ball at 7.62x39 velocity
It does leave a huge deformation. But there have been reports of people surviving 7.62x54r from a PKM to the back of a head at close range becauseof this. Also, it wouldn't be steel core rated as UHMWPE can't stop those.
Was just looking at them today and was on the fence but your video are very informative about relevant topics so I got one
Can u afford a gentex? If so u should try one out. They got like 3 diff models and would enjoy your take on thw higher end ones. U can prob get a used TW helmet so ur not giving them ur money
No, TW does not exist. It’s no longer about the money.
yeah, the minute you said HHV i just.stopped the Video. too many vids on YT with HHV helmets suffering back face deformation against different rounds in all tests. HHV made in China also. Save your money, buy a HHV or Save your Life, buy an Ops Core. easy choise for me.
You look like the Langley outdoors academy dude
They are making because Hard Head Veteran helmets are made overseas.
Talks smack about Vortex but then starts talking about HHV helmets...yeah nah.
Just wanted to say thank you for this video and have resubscribed. The "poor" comment I took...poorly... in your last helmet video, and lambasted you for in my last comment, was misinterpreted and I should have given you more of a chance. I blame Brandon Herrera and his fascination with talking down about the "poors", and my own misplaced aggravation at that unnecessary negativity. Trust me, anyone who falls in that category really doesnt want to be there. Why would anyone not want them to feel not just like they belong but that their lives matter too? Any 2A supporter, regardless of income bracket, should be welcomed with open arms and any information or assistance we can all share amongst us will only make us stronger as a community and as a country. Again, sorry for snapping when it wasn't warranted and thank you for the great follow up video.
Your original option was right. These kids have been faking the funk for the last 10 years. If you watch his last video and watch this one it’s obvious he’s only happy to sell this one cause they gave it to him and he gets a cut of the sales using his coupon code.
They’ve always favored the companies that send them product or a check. And like his last one they talk out of their ass. He buys his first brain bucket and acts like he’s been using them for years. Then not even 6 months later makes this video trashing that helmet he said was a good option not more than 6 months ago.
@@mrmidnight32 I was out of line in what I had originally said so my apology for that was sincere and necessary. But, not being a rich man or one who gets products sent to him for free I have to be reasonable. I appreciate his sales pitch. But I'm just here to get ideas and see testing.
Just like my vehicle situation. Would I prefer a Raptor 6x6 to my beat to hell 92 Dakota? Well, yeah. Who wouldn't. But I'm a single dad busting my ass to get by one day at a time, slowly building up and upgrading my kit as I can. After much research and pricing my options I bought myself and daughter each an ACH for under $200 combined. 2 helmets for less than half the price of one of his. It stops the same calibers and covers a lot more area then the tiny, high speed one's everyone seems to fancy these days. If things really do go south one day I think I'll be glad I have my ears and nape protected and my poor mans steel 11x14s for my chest. I'd rather look uncool and live to fight another day than to leave behind an overpriced corpse when the SHTF.
@@KyleKalevra I won't argue the ACH, I used one for years until switching to an Avon. But steel is just not good, it can be defeated by m193, you can get good deals on ceramics these days.
Definitely putting one of their bump helmets on my list
The one i bought was a Dupont level 3A. Cost $600.
For my off-road bicycle, I bought a Team Wendy Carbon Bump helmet and off-road mandible. It already saved my head/face in a lay down.