You completely missed the point of drawabox. He said multiple times drawabox is not going to teach your perspective. He's teaching pre-persective skills. It's not to learn perspective it's about developing the hand eye coordination to be able to construct 3d shapes in 2d. If I can't physically draw a box that looks right-ish them learning perspective isn't going to do me any good. That's what the 250 box challenge is about. Developing the motor skills needed to be able to effectively start studying perspective.
I've never had a problem understanding and visualising 3d space. In my pre teens I loved drawing cylinders and boxes. I have hundreds of drawings of mugs and soup cans. Because of this, I originally thought that draw a box would be a waste of time for me to do, but I tried it anyway and I must say, even if you removed perspective from the course, the first lesson, upto the 250 box challenge, is something everyone getting into art should do as it teaches line confidence which is equally important.
This was probably one of the best and simplest ways of explaining perspective, thank you for this!! not only did u present problems and the solution you also made a dope illustration for it which is quite nice. This is video is too underrated, I recommend this to every artist out there struggling with perspective.
Thank you for the kind words! I agree, a lot of perspective explanations a re a little too complex. Good to know! But sometimes you just need the most useful stuff :)
This is exactly what i was looking for. Draw a box is great, but it was never really explained how a cube should look rotated. The shorthand planes are great. Thanks!
I've been watching perspective rotation videos. And when you showed your cool art I was like "cool but whats the relevence?" I love how you tied it in and showcased a good use case for the lesson that inspires us to think of our own use cases, with your example as something possible by learning from the lesson. It really adds to the lesson's impact. Subbed.
The only other person I saw describe perspective rotation so clearly, is Lorenzo Etherington. You’ve really demystified a process that some other instructors (who seem to have a mastery of perspective…) struggle to convey
Where is the vanishing point supposed to be for the first diagram? How am I supposed to mirror a projection? Like, I know how to draw a cube in 1, 2, and3 point perspective, yet it feels like I'm missing 19 other pieces of the puzzle going in to this video
First time I'm watching a tutorial video of Alex and I'm sure he knows what his talking about but this is the first time I'm struggling to understand what someone is trying to explain. Unfortunately I didn't get it. Only understood the first part of the video.
THE best video Ive watched on the topic. I think I watched this before when I was a complete beginner and did not understand anything, but after grasping some other stuff about perspective this finally makes sense. Trying to develop an intuitive way of rotating boxes and I think im on the right track! Ellipses and its degrees are the key to everything I feel
Great work dude, watched both videos and I liked how you demonstrated the concepts with multiple examples to show how to actually use them. I feel like most tutorials on youtube lack that. so I hope you keep doing it in the future, maybe doing demos with narration at the end of the video would even take it to the next level. anyways, good luck.
@AlexHuneycutt does the ellipse have to be a circle aka an ellipse with eccentricity zero in the box or can be a non circular ellipse..just wondering why??
AAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLEEEEXXXX you freekin awesome person I have been searching high and low for a video that explained this for me as am trying to teach myself to draw and you explained this perfectly for me, thank you, thank you, thank you !!!!
Thanks for this video; I really enjoyed it! Keeping your vanishing points consistent and at the same distance apart is key to maintaining a coherent perspective throughout one's drawing. While you demonstrate this, I think it’s important to emphasize: just drag the same spacing of your vanishing points along the horizon line. The vanishing points help create the effect of a specific camera lens, and consistent spacing ensures depth remains uniform in your work. Using a physical cube as a reference can help you accurately gauge the back corner of your cubes. While there are technical methods to get the back right (the two eclipse technique for example), a good reference is often sufficient for most artists. It's crucial to maintain a consistent sense of volume in a rotating form. Even a small misalignment in the back of a cube can lead to significant imprecision in deep perspective. You don’t have to be overly meticulous, but having a solid reference, like the cube I mentioned, can really make a difference!
A good tip from Mark Vandruff. When you draw a cylinder. The minor axis of that cylinder, is major axis of the elipse (side plane/end). Take the centre point of the cylinder end (put a cross on the box to find the centre), extend that to the vanishing point (same direction as the cylinder). This gives you the major axis of a cylinder. Then you just make sure that the other axis is 90' perpendicular to that. This gives you the minor. Then ensure the circle hits each side of the square bounding box and the peaks of that circle are falling onto the major/minor axis, and it will look like a correctly distorted circle in space.
how do you make a 3d object (box) on a 2d area but showing it in a 4d aspect??? Ive done that already, but now im working on making it in 3d message me for photos
in fact, you made a mistake just placing the vanishing points to the right to the same distance for each one. It doesn't work like that. But this thing is clear only for those who like to draw.
Great video, man! Question, what about 'tilting' a box - as in: Imagine you'd a big box in a 2point perspective, and then had a smaller rectangular box, 'leaning' against the bigger box, at an angle, but still maintaining the correct perspective and the original horizon line. Like when a delivery guy tosses a package up against your door and it lands at a janky angle, ha, or if you took a lid partially off a box [not a hinged flap, as I understand that's where your axis rotation trick comes in] and it kind of falls halfway off but still hasn't come off completely). Get me? I've been struggling to find an answer to this kind of thing, even after buying multiple books on perspective. You can ignore the rest of this comment if I've already been unclear, ha, but ... A killer problem I came across, that takes the above to another level, is a milk churn in perspective... Imagine that tesseract cube from marvel, with a pole piercing from one corner, diagonally through the opposite corner of the cube, and then 'placing' either end of the pole onto two uprights that are supported by a wooden square frame. All so that the cube, 'full of milk' can be churned by rotating it like a pig on a spit, except, instead of a pig, it's a cube, in correct perspective and still maintaining the perspective of the wooden frame supporting the uprights of the stand.
i wonder if there is a specific equation that reflects the rate that the vanishing points move across the horizon as you rotate a box.. i fee like it'd like an exponential graph or something
Yesterday in the Drawabox discord there was someone who asked how he could improve faster, even though he knew it was a question that has already an automatic answer; practice. I was already thinking about how can I improve faster too, without taking years, so I answered him saying we as beginners don't question much because we don't know anything so therefore we just accept those overused advices. You mentioned in your video how to rotate a box, using the method modernjames used in his video. When you said "no one does that", it's like you verbalized my long forgotten thought and INSTINCT. Since I've started learning from Drawabox I tried to draw rotating boxes too but couldn't or didn't want follow through because we're highly recommended to stick to the lessons. Before watching this video I was looking for ways to improve faster but couldn't find a resource that was solid, but I remembered of FengZhu and was about to watch him on YT then I came across this video. So today I've learned something, it's far better to follow your instincts than overused advice, if you're wrong you will learn anyway. Great video BTW!
Glad you found this helpful! Means a lot that this is useful for people. Yes, I think Drawabox can be problematic at times with how dogmatic its rules are. There are many ways to solve the same problem. So seek them out, and learn in as many ways as possible!
Yea everyone learns differently, experiment with lessons. I started adding my own method to the drawabox lessons and my improvement increased dramatically.
I'm having a hard time projecting the cube into the planes like in the first example. The vanishing points technique makes a lot more sense to me! Definitely going to try it! :D
DAB is an amazing resource. No one resource will have everything. You have to fill the blanks with other sources and this vid adds the "next level". Good stuff!
@@leif1075 they provide exercises and guidelines that are far too harsh and pass them off as a rite of passage. Like using only a pen and having to live with the first line you draw, to be "like a samurai drawing their katana". Any atelier will teach you to start drawing softly and progressively press harder on your pencil (not pen). If a DAB enthusiast reads this comment, they're likely to tell me that I've been filtered out, don't have what it takes for their methodology, and their system is working.
h3y man thank you so much. hope you are doing all right. I am currently following your curriculum. thank you so much for that ... i cannot thank you enough. Hope to see you doing great in the future
Starting at 1:29 he completely lost me. I understand how to draw cubes in 1 2 and 3 point perspective yet the second he says "here" he just unloads a ton of info without even saying what I should focus on. Can you try and paraphrase that first bit? I'm literally desperate at this point
Doesn't matter, everyone has their own way of explaining things and the things they choose to emphasize will click differently in peoples heads. That's one advantage to studying online these days.
I don't know man, you lost me immediately. I learned how to draw boxes in 1 2 and 3 point perspective, I play around drawing boxes a lot, I get the basics, yet the moment after you said you assume I know how to draw a basic box in perspective (I do), it's like you started speaking a foreign language. "Here, is a box" yet I see 4 squares, and then there are over twelve shapes on screen in an instance, and I don't know where the "here" I'm supposed to focusing on is even supposed to be
i was wondering what the rotating 50 box was in your old cirriculum, so i used blender to rotate the boxes and memorized the shape of the box every 15 degrees angle.. which i wish i saw this video before i did that lol great explanation, watched it many times! thanks alot alex hope your channel flourishes with self teaching students
That's some serious dedication, though! I bet after you did that you had learned a good deal. Commitment like that really causes you to take your education into your own hands and "make it work", for lack of a better thought. Keep it up!
you didn't mention how to draw every box same volume. Distortion is pretty bad.
You completely missed the point of drawabox. He said multiple times drawabox is not going to teach your perspective. He's teaching pre-persective skills. It's not to learn perspective it's about developing the hand eye coordination to be able to construct 3d shapes in 2d.
If I can't physically draw a box that looks right-ish them learning perspective isn't going to do me any good. That's what the 250 box challenge is about. Developing the motor skills needed to be able to effectively start studying perspective.
I've never had a problem understanding and visualising 3d space. In my pre teens I loved drawing cylinders and boxes. I have hundreds of drawings of mugs and soup cans. Because of this, I originally thought that draw a box would be a waste of time for me to do, but I tried it anyway and I must say, even if you removed perspective from the course, the first lesson, upto the 250 box challenge, is something everyone getting into art should do as it teaches line confidence which is equally important.
At 5:08, HOW much more narrow, exactly? For those like me, who really needs precise calculations? That's the part I struggle with
This was probably one of the best and simplest ways of explaining perspective, thank you for this!! not only did u present problems and the solution you also made a dope illustration for it which is quite nice. This is video is too underrated, I recommend this to every artist out there struggling with perspective.
Thank you for the kind words! I agree, a lot of perspective explanations a re a little too complex. Good to know! But sometimes you just need the most useful stuff :)
@AlexHuneycutt Isn't the box at 3:34 in three point perspective since you cam see two sides and the top so each of those is a perspective?
@@leif1075 you can draw that type of box in 2-point perspective as well, it will just be a bit more distorted than if you use 3-point.
This just makes things more complicated than they need to be, in my opinion.
This is exactly what i was looking for. Draw a box is great, but it was never really explained how a cube should look rotated. The shorthand planes are great. Thanks!
Inscructions too clear I have now made a new polygon, one with consciousness
I've been watching perspective rotation videos. And when you showed your cool art I was like "cool but whats the relevence?" I love how you tied it in and showcased a good use case for the lesson that inspires us to think of our own use cases, with your example as something possible by learning from the lesson. It really adds to the lesson's impact. Subbed.
The only other person I saw describe perspective rotation so clearly, is Lorenzo Etherington. You’ve really demystified a process that some other instructors (who seem to have a mastery of perspective…) struggle to convey
Where is the vanishing point supposed to be for the first diagram? How am I supposed to mirror a projection? Like, I know how to draw a cube in 1, 2, and3 point perspective, yet it feels like I'm missing 19 other pieces of the puzzle going in to this video
First time I'm watching a tutorial video of Alex and I'm sure he knows what his talking about but this is the first time I'm struggling to understand what someone is trying to explain. Unfortunately I didn't get it. Only understood the first part of the video.
My mentor said that the elipce get more cricularthe future it gets from the viewer. Is he wrong?
This is so confusing.
THE best video Ive watched on the topic. I think I watched this before when I was a complete beginner and did not understand anything, but after grasping some other stuff about perspective this finally makes sense. Trying to develop an intuitive way of rotating boxes and I think im on the right track! Ellipses and its degrees are the key to everything I feel
Badass content. Your progress is amazing. Thank you for the cool lesson.
I appreciate that, and glad it was useful : )
I dont get this at all lmao
Great video man I feel like they don't talk about this too much in the youtube art scene but it really is essential.
You kind of remind me of Jay Baruchel
Great work dude, watched both videos and I liked how you demonstrated the concepts with multiple examples to show how to actually use them. I feel like most tutorials on youtube lack that. so I hope you keep doing it in the future, maybe doing demos with narration at the end of the video would even take it to the next level. anyways, good luck.
Thank you for the feedback! I'll keep that in mind going forward - to show new use cases for a lot of the old fundamentals that get talked about.
@AlexHuneycutt does the ellipse have to be a circle aka an ellipse with eccentricity zero in the box or can be a non circular ellipse..just wondering why??
I have a hard time drawing anything
AAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLEEEEXXXX you freekin awesome person I have been searching high and low for a video that explained this for me as am trying to teach myself to draw and you explained this perfectly for me, thank you, thank you, thank you !!!!
Thanks for this video; I really enjoyed it!
Keeping your vanishing points consistent and at the same distance apart is key to maintaining a coherent perspective throughout one's drawing. While you demonstrate this, I think it’s important to emphasize: just drag the same spacing of your vanishing points along the horizon line. The vanishing points help create the effect of a specific camera lens, and consistent spacing ensures depth remains uniform in your work.
Using a physical cube as a reference can help you accurately gauge the back corner of your cubes. While there are technical methods to get the back right (the two eclipse technique for example), a good reference is often sufficient for most artists.
It's crucial to maintain a consistent sense of volume in a rotating form. Even a small misalignment in the back of a cube can lead to significant imprecision in deep perspective. You don’t have to be overly meticulous, but having a solid reference, like the cube I mentioned, can really make a difference!
Great video, thank you so much. Unfortunately, the links don't work.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you so much. ♡ Hope you never stop creating.
A good tip from Mark Vandruff.
When you draw a cylinder. The minor axis of that cylinder, is major axis of the elipse (side plane/end).
Take the centre point of the cylinder end (put a cross on the box to find the centre), extend that to the vanishing point (same direction as the cylinder). This gives you the major axis of a cylinder.
Then you just make sure that the other axis is 90' perpendicular to that. This gives you the minor.
Then ensure the circle hits each side of the square bounding box and the peaks of that circle are falling onto the major/minor axis, and it will look like a correctly distorted circle in space.
how do you make a 3d object (box) on a 2d area but showing it in a 4d aspect??? Ive done that already, but now im working on making it in 3d
message me for photos
❤🔥
this just overcomplicates things and mostly makes sense for those that already know how this stuff works.
in fact, you made a mistake just placing the vanishing points to the right to the same distance for each one. It doesn't work like that. But this thing is clear only for those who like to draw.
Great video, man! Question, what about 'tilting' a box - as in: Imagine you'd a big box in a 2point perspective, and then had a smaller rectangular box, 'leaning' against the bigger box, at an angle, but still maintaining the correct perspective and the original horizon line. Like when a delivery guy tosses a package up against your door and it lands at a janky angle, ha, or if you took a lid partially off a box [not a hinged flap, as I understand that's where your axis rotation trick comes in] and it kind of falls halfway off but still hasn't come off completely). Get me? I've been struggling to find an answer to this kind of thing, even after buying multiple books on perspective.
You can ignore the rest of this comment if I've already been unclear, ha, but ...
A killer problem I came across, that takes the above to another level, is a milk churn in perspective... Imagine that tesseract cube from marvel, with a pole piercing from one corner, diagonally through the opposite corner of the cube, and then 'placing' either end of the pole onto two uprights that are supported by a wooden square frame. All so that the cube, 'full of milk' can be churned by rotating it like a pig on a spit, except, instead of a pig, it's a cube, in correct perspective and still maintaining the perspective of the wooden frame supporting the uprights of the stand.
i wonder if there is a specific equation that reflects the rate that the vanishing points move across the horizon as you rotate a box.. i fee like it'd like an exponential graph or something
HELP!
In just 3 mins i understand something holy shiii youre right you can open a new worl for us thanks bro
"you can get to this point in like a year, year and a half" me: sweating profusely
Should you learn 1,2,3 before doing this?
Cool video bro
Ppl who learnt reflections and refractions geometrical positions: oh i know these
Yesterday in the Drawabox discord there was someone who asked how he could improve faster, even though he knew it was a question that has already an automatic answer; practice.
I was already thinking about how can I improve faster too, without taking years, so I answered him saying we as beginners don't question much because we don't know anything so therefore we just accept those overused advices.
You mentioned in your video how to rotate a box, using the method modernjames used in his video.
When you said "no one does that", it's like you verbalized my long forgotten thought and INSTINCT.
Since I've started learning from Drawabox I tried to draw rotating boxes too but couldn't or didn't want follow through because we're highly recommended to stick to the lessons.
Before watching this video I was looking for ways to improve faster but couldn't find a resource that was solid, but I remembered of FengZhu and was about to watch him on YT then I came across this video.
So today I've learned something, it's far better to follow your instincts than overused advice, if you're wrong you will learn anyway.
Great video BTW!
Glad you found this helpful! Means a lot that this is useful for people. Yes, I think Drawabox can be problematic at times with how dogmatic its rules are. There are many ways to solve the same problem. So seek them out, and learn in as many ways as possible!
Yea everyone learns differently, experiment with lessons. I started adding my own method to the drawabox lessons and my improvement increased dramatically.
I'm having a hard time projecting the cube into the planes like in the first example. The vanishing points technique makes a lot more sense to me! Definitely going to try it! :D
Feeling lucky to subscribe this channel😇🤗thnku for ur efforts
This video is much more helpful to me than draw a box. I find it draconian to be honest. Keep these coming!
Draw a box is quite lacking tbh. For the sake of simplification it leaves out important knowledge and leaves people with a lot of confusion
DAB is an amazing resource. No one resource will have everything. You have to fill the blanks with other sources and this vid adds the "next level". Good stuff!
Why did you find it Draconian??
@@leif1075 they provide exercises and guidelines that are far too harsh and pass them off as a rite of passage. Like using only a pen and having to live with the first line you draw, to be "like a samurai drawing their katana". Any atelier will teach you to start drawing softly and progressively press harder on your pencil (not pen).
If a DAB enthusiast reads this comment, they're likely to tell me that I've been filtered out, don't have what it takes for their methodology, and their system is working.
h3y man thank you so much. hope you are doing all right. I am currently following your curriculum. thank you so much for that ... i cannot thank you enough. Hope to see you doing great in the future
godsent!!! thank you very much brother. thank you so much.
Excellent perspective lesson ❤️
Glad you liked it!
please sort your lettering out. It's semi-illegible! .
which software you used in this video for drawing 🤔
two point perpective into one point? and what about eye level?
I've been feeling incredibly stupid trying to learn this, being very down on myself. Watching this made something click. Thank you so much!
Starting at 1:29 he completely lost me. I understand how to draw cubes in 1 2 and 3 point perspective yet the second he says "here" he just unloads a ton of info without even saying what I should focus on. Can you try and paraphrase that first bit? I'm literally desperate at this point
this guy is wearing my same exact Cardigan
holyyshit, the quality of your video is just 👌, idk why you haven't gain a lot of subscribers ywt
Maybe one day 😅
For now, I'm pretty pleased with how helpful the videos have been able to be for those who find them already!
I like the shoutout to kim hes pretty talented.
Thanks bro the stuff you are teaching is great 🤟
bruuuh, u put it so simple, now i understand this, thanks a lot, sub
Seems like the links in the description for Gumroad and discord are broken?
That’s strange - they were for me when I click on them. But you’re the second person to tell me so. Here’s the discord invite: discord.gg/hggrsAjFQe
I really like your content.
Thank you, I appreciate that!
This is really lovely, your explanation is top notch
ur content in every videos are so wonderfull
Didn't draw a box cover all this though?
Doesn't matter, everyone has their own way of explaining things and the things they choose to emphasize will click differently in peoples heads. That's one advantage to studying online these days.
very nice video
amazing video indeed
Some gesture works senpai.....Fast please....
I'll add it to the list!
thankss
great video i tried a lot of ways to do the boxes but this is the most easy and fast
What's that music? I dig it!
Wow this video was so worth watching ❤️
Thank you! I appreciate you stopping by
@@AlexHuneycutt your welcome 😄
Cool video
You're pretty good!
That was so helpful for my current artwork, I loved the trick with the perspective lines! Great video!
Great to hear! Keep it up :)
I don't know man, you lost me immediately. I learned how to draw boxes in 1 2 and 3 point perspective, I play around drawing boxes a lot, I get the basics, yet the moment after you said you assume I know how to draw a basic box in perspective (I do), it's like you started speaking a foreign language. "Here, is a box" yet I see 4 squares, and then there are over twelve shapes on screen in an instance, and I don't know where the "here" I'm supposed to focusing on is even supposed to be
Great lesson
voice is leading and video is laging
Thank you for the heads-up. Things will be under control going forward, I've bought a camera and have it synced up with my mic now!
très dynamique et intéressant
Rotating box nicely explained.nice
Thanks a lot 😊
Hey, Amazing content!
Thank you, very much! Appreciate you taking the time to give it a chance
i was wondering what the rotating 50 box was in your old cirriculum, so i used blender to rotate the boxes and memorized the shape of the box every 15 degrees angle.. which i wish i saw this video before i did that lol
great explanation, watched it many times! thanks alot alex hope your channel flourishes with self teaching students
That's some serious dedication, though! I bet after you did that you had learned a good deal. Commitment like that really causes you to take your education into your own hands and "make it work", for lack of a better thought.
Keep it up!
thank you
You're welcome!
Awesome!
Thank you! Cheers!