We live in a world of bread and circuses. It's 2017 and still this movie doesn't feel like it changed anything. Could this movie have changed the world for the better if it was a box office hit and received critical acclaim? Because I think we should care about our planet as much as we care about our fellow human beings. I'm glad that social equality is trending all over hollywood and the oscars. But we don't get a lot of movies like this one. Movies that cares about what we're doing to our own planet. "It's not about the money. It's about sending a message." The Joker said that (not joking). And I'd like to believe that even though this movie has its imperfections and it's not for free, the goal is less about the money and profit and more about the planet and our human spirit.
The problem is we DO care about the earth the same as we do fellow human beings. Sure, we may help when it's convenient, or trendy, or inescapably needed, but mostly everyone is just out for whatever they can get and screw everyone else.
Kingdom Hearts no, sadly not. I have a cinema degree and though film can create change both good and bad it often does not spark massive shifts in the public. Walle was not well received because the whole premise is we've destroyed, killed the earth but walle is a brilliant movie. This speech is smart. It pleads for people to work towards better. The tone of the movie isn't preachy. It's softer and says "be dreamers then do-ers."
Grayson Peddie this is perhaps the most detailed reply I've ever received.... But I liked the new tron. It was all about the horrors of warfare and genocide. Also I'm a fan of Olivia Wilde. Haven't seen the old 1.
@@alisonmoons6310 That only applies to capitalists, we’ve just let the capitalist machine gain too much power, strip it, bring in Socialism and Communism and things will get better.
I think the biggest issue with Governor Nix's speech is that he doesn't get what's really holding human kind back; it's not that we want to sink, it's that we think we're DOOMED to. You don't just show a population the problems, you need to present viable solutions as well. You have to give them HOPE. I understand that's the hardest part, but it's not impossible.
You do realize Rapture fell because it had guns and dangerous weapons you can get in every corner and was pretty much Ayn Rand/Atheists/Libertarians wet dream of a city.
He is right, in way. But that doesn't mean there isn't anything we can still do about all the bad things in the world, instead of just keeping on fearing it all embracing em with media that doesn't do any good
that is the whole point of the entire movie. That is what was giving the monitor that result, most of humanity had already given up and is what was giving that result. Everyone just complains and says everyone is doomed, going about it as if they didn't care about the world anymore. That is the whole point of the wolfs dilema and why she is the hero of the movie.
I thought of this speech after the Democratic establishment ambushed Bernie Sanders and pumped up Biden to be the nominee, maintaining business as usual and full-speed ahead towards the iceberg. And the voters could not be more happy about it.
elevate07 He's a bad guy. Complicated yes, redeemable if they didnt killl him off maybe, but still bad and has a lack of common sense . He tried to send Casey and the others to an abandon island to die even though Casey was pure of heart/sheer will and proof that not everyone craves distruction and that humanity was worth saving. Also, she was a prodigy with technology snd that alone makes him an a**hole for trying to send her to her death. She would very least be very valuable to Tomorrowland. You would think a genius who leads a city that was originally based on finding talent would recognize someone like Casey, in which Athena called her even among the chosen recruits, special. Lack of common sense on his part but that could have been his arrogance.
Its not in the LEAST surprising that this movie is dreadfully under rated and that the point of it is completely missed by most people. The movie itself explains why. Its like it EXPECTED to be a failure, but carried the message out nonetheless. One of my favorite movies of all time (if not my all time favorite).
That's because it asks from the people to wake up, and they don't want to. They realize that they are weak and they won't change because living in the illusion is easier. This is 10/10 movie, but again, in a world where people are blinded, selfish and limited - it's underrated.
100% agreed. Probably one of my favorite movies of all time because they went full tilt into arguably one of the most important messages we humans need to hear. So much detail in this movie, and yet for the most part, everyone just criticized it. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!! Oh wait, that's another good movie...
Normal People: "This movie didn't do good because it has no good story..." Me: "This movie didn't do good because people don't like hearing the truth."
How true. Everyone wants everything to be made easy. Not hard or challenging. Just easy enough that no one has to do anything but watch T.V., eat cheeseburgers, get laid and die.
Nix was right, unless its a huge problem now, we wont do anything about it! We have to do what it takes to give ourselves a better future because no angel is gonna come down and give it to us for free!!
It's actually worse than that. We feed Third World children just enough and pump them full of antibiotics to stave off deficiency-related infections. We barely keep them alive only to watch them die in their teens and twenties. Why? Because dead children makes bad PR.
That's because we keep eating foods that have little to no nutritional value and serve no purpose but to fill us up and make us want more. So even though you're making yourself fatter, you're still going hungry because your body's needs are still not being met. You're just filling yourself up.
@Dawson Davis Being Vegan on an individual level makes absolutely no difference or impact whatsoever. Only when enforced on a massive scale does the real difference become apparent.
@Dawson Davis sorry I have to disagree. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water. I find that people who are more than 1 or 2 degrees removed from farmers tend towards veganism. I do not know if that remark applies to you, but I’d encourage you to look at regenerative agriculture. Regenerative agriculture - making use of animals, not over exploiting the land and using soil for better carbon capture - is the sustainable route. Animals have been demonized but humans need them. We need protein and fats to live, not carbs, which is what veganism is based on.
Tomorrowland isn't a perfect movie, but I like the grandiose ideas it strives for. Optimism in the face of a cynical world. And this brilliant speech perfectly deconstructs today's cynical society. Have we resigned ourselves to the worst because we think it's the easy way out? It's something you rarely see in a Disney movie.
We "resigned ourselves to the worst" because the people who can do anything about it - the leaders - see it as profit, not risk. In their arrogance they believe wealth will save them from all of it, and in many cases they're right. But the rest of us will be buried while they huddle in bunkers.
@@imperial_crest6809 I think it means that if we just sit and complain about how bad the world is but don’t take action it’s easy. We don’t actually have to do anything.
Basically that humans are lazy. Why do today what you can put off until tomorrow? Why do tomorrow what you can put off until next week? Eventually you keep putting it off until it's too late. But hey, why worry about that? That's the future, not today.
“In every moment there is the possibility of a better future but you people won’t believe it and because you won’t believe it you won’t do what is necessary to make it a reality”
Its true!! We can change things around if we believe it and do something about it! problem is people want to end, rather then keep going fight for a better brighter tomorrow.
Every time someone brings up the importance of mental health under the current circumstances, I remember reading in a book about film noir that the trope of criminal insanity was actually propaganda to deflect criticism of socioeconomic injustice.
Seriously this speech inspired me better myself but physically mentally i used to be obese ate like shit didn't care and this scene just struck a cord with me that i turned my entire life around i workout everyday and eat healthy im in great shape
2007 - 2015 YT algorithms defaulted to a tsunami of Russian, InfoWars, David Ick, religious right negative sausage factory toxic videos exactly reflecting the Gov Nix speech. 👆inconvenient facts few mention bc Google had the good sense to start deleting much of it in 2015 when upgrading their algorithm.
But he doesn't have a point? 'Dystopian movies and video games are bad because I literally don't understand the philosophy behind them and I'm ignoring how greed is destroying everything' is a really stupid argument.
@@vfxninja5503 Not really stupid if it’s true. Humans have basically been doing to this world what should take millions of years in only a few centuries. The world is literally being set ablaze because of humanity and they don’t take the hint because they just don’t care.
In more ways than we understand, we are witnessing exactly what Nix is saying.We are apathetic. A real shame Disney fumbled the bag. Just like they did John Carter wrong. Show the movie to the youngest ones of your family. You'll see the flaming their eyes. Proper storytelling. A sleeper Cell.
Everyone I have heard walks away from this movie with the wrong idea. It's not supposed to beat you down and drag you through the mud. It doesn't matter how bad things are right now as long as you remember that "...in every moment there's a possibility of a better future."
And that's why I love this phrase from John Lennon : "I know I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. Maybe one day you'll join us, and the world Wille be as one."
I really loved the film, and this important speech given by the main baddie is very well important, for it is telling us to stop thinking about getting ready to give up and embrace the end of everything and do something to keep moving forward and find a way to avoid the apocalypse! So everyone who is watching or reading anything that revolves the end of the world, stop and find a way to prevent it now!! Fight for the Future! Feel Positive no matter what!
Exactly!! Nix was right, We can create a better future for ourselves but people refuse to believe and just sit allowing everything to decay and die when we have he power to change that!! I'll never understand why people want everything they've ever known to be destruction. Instead of becoming entertained by dystopian books and films why not actually start making Utopian stories and films to inspire people to make it a reality!! Miracles and dreams can happen but only if you put the effort and work into it!!
The one thing I found weird was that Governor Nix was kicking Casey out of Tomorrowland, when she had already demonstrated that she was exactly the type of person that he had wanted to reach - someone who wouldn't give up and was willing to do something to stop the apocalypse. He should have wanted to keep her in Tomorrowland, to save people like her.
its because it was only a glimpse, a glitch... it was not enough, for him. Maybe he, himself, had already given up and was kind of hoping for the world to end sooner rather than later. She gave him hope and hope was toxic to him at this point... It is not like he was "too far gone", but to him it definitely felt that way, so he chose not to believe and that was what sent the monitor back to the apocalyptic future after she showed him the light. It is possible that they didn't even need to destroy the monitor, but just stop sending its signal to everybody's head.
I like to think he probably gave up as well whether he knows it himself or not. He lost hope. Honestly can't blame him. As he said, they gave so many warnings, and we just keep ignoring it and instead embraced and glorified the doomsday instead of doing something to prevent it
This hits harder in the wake of the Covid pandemic: we went through a silent apocalypse where a faction of people did everything possible to sabotage all mitigation attempts, and any attempt to make things better on all fronts is met with culture warriors upset about the politics of it.
Id say this movie is slightly above average, might be "good," but this monologue is one of the best ever. It's so concise and poignant. It's not over done, and it speaks to easily observable facts of the world (politicians and industry never going to do whats best for humanity, people perpetually procrastinating (myself included), obesity and starvation). And Im one who generally hates the ramblings of Hollywood movies and actors, but this was spot on.
Well at least someone admit how stupid, offensively dark and edgy that show has gotten, zombies are a BIOLOGICAL IMPOSSIBILITY yet it takes itself WAY TOO RIDICULOUSLY SERIOUSLY! Seriously I wish that dumb nonsense would just die already and those “Talking Dead” shills would just forget it.
Why should you feel bad that some crappy author's mouthpiece is crying at you that you choose to enjoy media that they don't create? Seriously, how can anybody interpret this scene as anything other than the writers bawling their eyes out about THESE KIDS TODAY
I'm sure the fact that this movie wasn't as popular as it was supposed to be tells us all. A society that thrived because it avoided those pointless wars. Is that in any way pointing at something... maybe? And the saddest thing: After that magnificent speech all people will think is 'wow, that's really deep.' and then they'll just skip to the next movie or TV-show. I just don't want to say what think of humanity right now.
The movie is a depressed pile of miserable garbage. "People should be optimistic and make more happy movies because dystopian movies are bad! Now lets have a big stupid fight scene because this movie has no tone, and also is way more dystopian in vibe than optimistic, no matter what the labels we use in the script say."
The problem is that warfare has also advanced technology a lot. World War Two gave us computers, jet aircraft and spaceflight. The Korean War gave us modern emergency medicine. The Cold War gave us the Internet. Even in Star Trek it took a nuclear war that killed 600 million people to get people to wake up.
@OriginalTharios Icarus couldn't have put it better. "Inefficient"? It survived 4 billion years of radiation, meteoric bombardment and catastrophes of every imaginable nature to make us. We're a part of nature. Our error is in forgetting this fact. If there's anything that's wrong with us it's in the "civilization" we created. The rest of nature has got it just fine. We're the ones who need to clean up our act.
OriginalTharios I’m guessing you thought you were witty and clever with this but you proved the simplicity of nature and its effectiveness Our throats are evolved in such a way that we avoid choking on liquids But if we want to be witty then let’s reverse the role Engineering is better. Let’s use your “clever” formula Go build a skyscraper from bronze. Go ahead. See how it works out The point is that your analogy is that if you purposefully bypass nature’s safety check (epiglottis) then it somehow proves that nature is bogus in the design department?
@@ACoKyo I didn't even bother continuing the conversation after his first reply. I know a scientism fundamentalist when I see one. But I'll respond now. Look at this completely wtf jug of water hypothetical to me. Yeah, cause you see that happen in nature all the time. "Nature is random"? What a totally myopic statement. Nature has patterns all over it. That's why we have entire fields of study based around examining it. "Engineering is superior. Period." LOL. What, cause you say so, and so that's the end of the discussion? Will you report me for hate speech next or something? Here's a challenge for your superior engineering: show me one new thing humanity had created that is as novel, complex, and capable of adjusting to its environment as the human body itself. One thing. And then as a second challenge, if our engineering is so obviously superior, explain why nature existed in harmony for billions of years until the Industrial Revolution turned it into a plastic-choked toxic waste ball in just a few centuries. Sorry, OriginalThanos, as a former atheist who used to think like you but, unlike how you appear, actually has an open mind, your engineering sucks ("Period.". Isn't that such a great comeback?) and if I had one wish it would be to get off this planet and live someplace it hasn't corrupted. I hate this modern world, and the only reason I haven't checked out is that someone needs to stand up to people like you and fix it.
The funny thing is that you don't see that no one is saying we shouldn't use our brains to improve things. Of course we should. That's exactly why we're here, to solve problems on a higher order that the rest of nature is ill-equipped to. But where did these brains come from? That's right, that inefficient, random nature that you look down on. Nothing we've created comes close to the human mind that you now think has all the answers. You're like a new employee who thinks he knows everything wrong with his company 20 minutes into his first day of orientation. Nature has worked on the problems of our existence far longer than we have. We've been tasked with finding new solutions, but not taking the complexity of the problem seriously is the best recipe for failure. We are not superior to nature. We are co-creators with it. The people screwing up this world are the people who have forgotten this fact.
@OriginalTharios Well, I know that mine doesn't need to insult and call names to make a point. Maybe it's because you don't have one that can be defended.
At least the Mad Max movies don’t take themselves too seriously and are just pure entertainment, unlike OTHER types of that genre that I refuse to name.
tbh this is one of my favorite monologues in cinematic history. Not just for its message, but coming from *Disney*, the most capitalist-appeasing, status-quo exploiting corporation on the planet. Only Brad Bird could get away with this.
Strive to make the world a better place. Make as many good ripples as you can. Produce happiness. That little positivity today just might matter in 200 years. And try to get others to help each other. It might not be worth YOUR time, but you don't matter. How you affect others does. Your actions all have effects and create unwritten history. Non-human beings and even objects count, too. Do what's best for the future. And if something annoys YOU, remember that if it won't matter in 2 years, it doesn't matter now. Do what's best for the future world. If it will matter in a few years, do what you want.
OriginalTharios ...Except a majority of the gods that billions of people actually worship, usually specifically because they're benevolent? Seriously, what gods have you heard of?
OriginalTharios That sounds a lot like the Norse, Roman and Greek gods, which have always felt more like a family TV soap rather than an actual mythology to me. Anyway, you should check out the God of Judaism, Islam and Christianity sometime. It doesn't sound like you're all that aware or at least understanding of them.
Xackadee I believe his argument is similar to Lex Luthor's from BvS:DoJ. "If God is all good, he cannot be all powerful. If he is all powerful, he cannot be all good." Whatever you think of the film (BvS) or the character and his portrayal, the line raises an interesting theological discussion. If God is responsible for all things in his infinite power, he is thereby responsible for all bad things as well as good, and thus is not purely benevolent and kind. If the bad things in the world are caused by the power of choice and free will, which he has no control over(as is the argument for most who believe in the Abrahamic faiths), then from a purely logical standpoint, he is not all powerful. I am not saying either side is correct. I believe that if there is a God, their ways truly must be unknowable to us. Whether that's because ghd truly operates on a higher plane of understanding than we do, or if they are simply like the rest of us and are thus as enigmic as the average human mind, I cannot say. The simple fact is, many who see deities differently than those who worship them are one who lack faith in them. That doesn't make them wrong. Faith is not an argument, and one person's faith might be stronger than another's, but that doesn't mean their faith is right. Faith means accepting that you don't know the whole picture, but trusting that you don't need to know. Other people have faith in science, and that faith is just as correct as those who put their faith in a god, or the God. Even scientists understand they can never know everything, but they trust in what they do know to get them through whatever life throws at them.
OriginalTharios If you believe God to be "a cruel, murdering, lying, ignorant hypocrite" then you do not have a valid understanding of the God that people of religion worship. It sounds a lot to me like you've dabbled in theological study without pushing to actually understand the theology - or the morality, for that matter - behind these religions. You know some things but have not seen the entire picture yet choose to believe you can fill in the blanks, like you know the end result of a 1000 piece jigsaw because you've filled in 400 of the pieces. Call that speculation if you would like, but regardless of how much you know or don't know, you have a clear lack of understanding and that is a simple observation of how I would place it.
OriginalTharios To use a variation of your own words against you, if you cannot understand the basics, then there is no way that you can understand the things greater than those concepts. You grossly overestimate your knowledge and make claims you cannot live up to, because you have the arrogance to believe you know enough about religion to claim that God in any form is "a cruel, murdering, lying, ignorant hypocrite" which is fundamentally incorrect. It's not an excuse based on the concept of liking or disliking, it's a basic lack of understanding of God's character that a child would be able to correct you on. You have made an error so grevious that it invalidates any further comment you can make on the subject because you have demonstrated a failure of both knowledge and understanding. Heck, even my puzzle analogy - which I only made to make a simple point - you somehow simultaneously took too far and entirely missed the point. Again, you fail to grasp the basics and in doing so discredit any further argument you may make.
this is a perfect metaphor for the current state of human civilization. my dad used to say people had so much hope for the future the apollo program,concord, light rail, skylab they all gave people a glimpse of a better tomorrow people today have lost hope for the future.
Your dad lived in the age of World War II, the Space Race, the Cold War, and Mutually Assured Destruction. I wouldn't say "a better tomorrow" was in the minds of many at the time.
EmptyMan000 yes they had a lot of things like that to worry about but people had so more hope that there could be a better tomorrow but today people just sit on their fat behinds resign themselves to mediocrity and wait for death
Oh no worries, people do that anyway. That's pretty much what folks mostly did besides building and being ordered around by other folks in the past. Compare how many folks actually try to improve things vs. those who don't in every age and you will see that much.
i dont think movie makers do this just for entertainment, its directed, they cant have this knowledge being only material focused. They wouldn´t use this symbolism, because this symbolism is only understood by spiritual , occult people or when u got dmt access. But either people think its satanic or its random mumbo jumbo, or coincidence. People happily accept a cyber age, with the claim, it will make them more advanced to merge with A.I, because they have no idea about the possibilities that spirituality offers, because they dont want to beleive or accept it likewise they refuse their own potential. The comment section is for a part really sad, some people advice others to wear masks because of a corona pandemic they dont even know if it really exists or if they are lied to, others say not all movies show somehting its just entertainment. No ITS NOT, how clear does it have to be for your people your media is stuffed with symbolism, stuffed with information, stuffed with the all seeing eye, u have a all seeying eye in the prequel before every nickelodeon series, spoongebob has a episode about where he makes a trip wiht plankton, you have midnight gospel, adenture time shows u macro micro cosmos and symbolism throughout, u have the legend of zelda, with spiritual symbolism, u have in every single movie cover spiritual symbolism, eye, split face, mirroring, kaleidoscope, pyramide, apples, ouroboros etc., even the movie speeches tell you on the front cover, 2 ways in no way out on tunnel, mankind has met its match on override, get outa hell on saints row the game full with a fleur delis, u have in league of legends a blood moon event, and a dark star cosmic event where the chracters speak from a spiritually illuminated perception about chaos and order, you have a coven event with a black magic witch witch circle, you have netflix serieses about secret societies like The Order , The Blacklist tells you about the Cabal, u have in pokemon alchemy and secret socieites, harry potter has now a deadly hallow symbol which is a circle in a triangle split into two halfs, u have cyberpunk2077 which tells you how the world will look like if all becomes more technical, deus ex machina where humans merge with a i , wall e which shows the consequnces of gluttony, secret of mana, i Robot, company logos like starbucks, movie studio logos, like PERFECT WORLD and ILLUMINATION FILMS, Pixar Animation makes a movie called SOUL, which is about after life, a alcohol trademark called black magic, your celebrities telling you on twitter whats going on while half of their fans leave them because they claim they became "conspiracy theorists" or satanists or think they are joking, music artists talk about mind and love and how life is a dream, u watch inception reflecting how the world is created by you, SIlent hill tells you u live in your own hell, rick & morty creators advice on interviews to get a knowledge about psychadelics and your own mind. Animes have characters named to the representives of the qlipoth and tree of life, u play your way up to purify seraphs in date a live game, in black clover they tell you about the qlipoth and how your acts lead to its manifestations how it represnets your dark side. mob psycho tell you you have spiritual abilities, naruto is about the consequences of hatred and fueling it, berserk is highly symbolic and spiritual, akira is highly symbolic dystopic and spiritual, death note shows how power can lead to insanity and self initiated doom unbalnced crown chakra, neon genesis evangelion highly symbolic and spiritual, hidden messages, rahxephon highly smybolic and spiritual , vision of escaflown tells about a existence of mankind as atlantean souls., hollow knight highly symbolic and spiritual, the whole marrvel series and comics, hidden knowledge, spirituality, advanced technology, multidimensional understanding, especially the avengers and dr. strange, full metal alchemsit has a ouroboros in his main logo with a merkhaba double tetrahedron inside, in World of warcraft you have a diagram of the structure of this dimension void lightt death life, symbolism, spiritual knowledge in a conflict with eachother exactly like you are a split being, your soul is split and seperated in a conflict of polarities making you percieve the world dual , unbalanced. star wars is about how the world is imprisoned by a force in a reaccuring cycle consisting of light and darkness in conflict and creating a perpetual replay of events, spirituality, psychic abilities, Persona is about secret societies , spirituality nyx shows you tarot cards to make up the fate of mankind, u fight against a endboss caleld Yaldaboath, plenty of symbolism in it also, Disneys movie company name is DREAMworks, daft punk sits in a pyramid on their concert with a howering top and flexes triangles talking about how you accept the robotic age, one punch man has symbolism and spiritual knowledge in it, ice cube tells you about to inform yourself about the black cube of saturn and gets laughed down by his fanbase, chingy tells you about kundalini in a interview, eminems venom tells you about your darker side, nicki minaj has a song called starships, disturbed new album is called immortalized, Do u actual listen to metal lyrics or do u just bang your head because it sounds cool, do u even undertsand the symbolism on their covers, oh iron amiden has a album brave new world, hey the last song on iron maidens new album senjutsu is called hell on earth and their main logo is encircled by a snake, metallicas greatest hits album has a multifold face, hm msut be the dweller of the abyss, hm all people are covering one eye on magazines, even the rolling stones or michael jackson, donald duck has a episode dedicated to sacred geometry and the golden ratio, alice in wonderland is a allegory for the creative potential and the hidden world within of man, hm there is a game called beyond good and evil, one man sky tells you the universe is a simulation created by a oversoul called atlas, ready player one, congrtaz u jsut game the chracter in your own game called life, avatar about how humans do not understand spiritual principles and are greedy, avatar the last air bender tell you how to open your chakras and how to connect to your higher self , life is strange is about that you create your own world and embrace the consequences of your doing feeling the emotions of others soemthing like a travel into your soul, because all IS, nice smybolism in there, all seeying eye in the toilet , also compass square in supernatural series on the wall, the man of letters main symbol is the thelema, in Men in Black they reference to the real MIB covering up supernatural phenomenas and other beings. nice new steam games btw such as NEW WORLD, oh they use symbolism in call of duty and battlefield, they tell you to elevate your mind in gta v on self-actualization fm, whats is the matrix movie actually about, oh to open your mind to unfold your potential, oh bill cipher in gravity falls actually represents the dream becoming a prison and he plays chess with stanford in the universe, wow there is a series called lucifer who started to become a different being maybe because lucifer represents the fallen consciouseness of man, the fallen man 666, descended to earth, oh there is a cartoon called helluva boss educating you about the dark aspects of your soul with a grimoire demon called stolas, lets watch Bladerunner 2049 together or Remniscence so we can know that we can always have the technology to live in a virtual world of our memories where the world was yet not completely technolyzed, when our own world became already a cyber world
This movie had its "really????" moments but this part right here is a true treasure! It's happening right now and instead of people doing anything about it they just want to deny climate change all together.....i'm scared for the future; if we even get one!
What I really like about Tomorrowland is their comedy and the presentation of a perfect villain and their motivation, very similar to Thanos' point of view: "As long as there are those who remember what was, there will always be those who are unable to accept what it can be". There is every natural possibility about the happenings of disorder and crime, however no natural possibility for those who commit genocide, mass corruption and devastating loss. The powerful and the rich oppresses the defenseless, the beauty of mother nature diminishes into becoming endangered before permanent extinction, our personal trust and dreams destroyed after realizing such an amazing lie by some popular person who purposely using our love that benefits their egotism stronger and unchallengeable. To my perspective to Governor Nix; it is unwise to let the world destroy itself, yet some have valid points which are precisely related to Harvey Dent's advice: "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself as a villain". We must choose to act and choose surely, or else it is finite. Thank you for this video, fully appreciate it. 😉
The more I watch the scene, the more I think and I realize Governor Nix makes a good point. Imagining the world's downfall does seem to be an idea for all of man kind.
You're seriously giving into that idea are you? WE'RE NOT DEAD YET! We still have a chance to change things! To delay our world's end long enough for our descendants to see Earth's true end. The boiling, giant and red sun.
The one character in this film I actually relate to. This guy is spitting FACTS and they're all just like 'oh but hope'. Hope isn't enough when the majority of people are too lazy to make compromises.
1:35 it's because much of the time it's just as much what you eat as much as it is how much. Many people live in food deserts where fattening foods are far easier and cheaper to consume. As for starvation, blame centuries of colonialism, capitalism, and modern philanthropy more focused on PR and tax cuts than actually helping in a meaningful and lasting manner. Well you asked me to explain.
Kyle Campbell Disney is geared for family. Their demographic was never only kids. It's why the humor is sly sometimes and the vocabulary is sophisticated for children. This movie is very much Disney. It's for dreamers and has a message. Disney has many constant themes and this movie shows many-1 being to care and be kind/help others.
Honestly I did't understand what this whole movie wanted to say(and still now), but I was really impressed by this speech. It's one of the greatest lines of the movies I've ever watched.
@@infinitegod461 No, the failure is that we have leaders who will not do what is necessary for the future. And they brush the rest of us aside the moment we talk of real change. The line of leadership has failed, passed on to lesser men who are only as clever as clowns.
That is what we should be. But the people refuse to see it. Instead they dwell on their personal identities and national interests. As if that will matter in the end.
As bad as he is, we need people like David Nix in real life because there are so many problems and not enough people who care. Just like with the COVID-19 pandemic, no one seems to care about exercising caution as cases decline because they prefer the here and now. Everyone who sees the devastating consequences of non social distancing and not wearing a mask refuse to take the hint. Why? I’m glad you asked. Because people are addicted to their life styles and they think without those lifestyles, they’re dead. But I believe that adaptation is the key to seeing the greater good surviving. Accept that you’re not in control. And cherish the time you are given rather than asking for more
Hey the movie and books examples you gave aren’t meant to be taken so seriously just pure entertainment, they are pretty over the top gleeful and self-aware about it, not sure about Fallout 4, but the TV example is on the nose, screw that series.
@@Zelink108 u are fkng blind, playing breath of the wild with a blood moon, trinity/triforce, emotion willpower strength gods of hyrule, link zelda ganondorf, having to face yourself which is shadow link, do u want more ? omg all u watch , play, read warns you, all has the eye , all has symbolism all tells you about the mind, new series midnight gospel about how u create your worlds with your mind, how what u experience is a reflection of your soul, form the make of adventure time which is highly symbolism filled. U think tis only abou the apocalypse no dude, u are made enlightened, u are told whats goin on, you are told where it possibly heads, you are told how to open your mind, why its important, told about meditation, eye is third eye, its about learning spiritual stuff, its about learning your thoughts create reality, its about to bcome illuminated to leave this prison. all shows you this, open your eyes.
I think you are overplaying COVID-19 just a little bit. I’m not saying it isn’t a big dead, just that you are exaggerating and just spreading more panic.
Now he’s going to tell them his whole plan, and then he’s going to come up with some complicated way to kill them and they’ll find an equally complicated way to escape.
@@Neojhun It doesn't seem like he wanted to accept it. A 99.994% chance of world destruction, down from 100%, really shouldn't raise eyebrows. Nix understands logic and numbers and he tried to make everyone else wake up. Having heard his speech and explanation for everything, what else could he have done?
There is a difference between a "Villain" and an "Antagonist". He is more towards the latter than the first. He forsake any hope for the future, even when he sees what seems to be a glitch in the prediction of the future which begs the possibility that there is still hope. His robots are the villains which are trying to kill the MC and the robot girl. He just wants to rest and is extremely angry, with reasons, against human race in general. But his efforts to stop the main characters of the possibility of hope is what makes him the antagonist, as that turns him into one of the variables pushing humanity towards doom.
I don’t care what you think of the movie as a whole, this villain monologue is one of the best in any movie. Truly fantastic.
Actually, I do like the movie pretty much!! It’s even in my favorites list.
The world is catching up with the reality of it.
The movie was fantastic!
Best part of the movie, completely unexpected and honest observation on "modern" society.
He's not wrong lol
he's talking about the "lol" part
Indeed, what makes the collapse of human civilization and the death of its better potential so amusing?
We live in a world of bread and circuses. It's 2017 and still this movie doesn't feel like it changed anything. Could this movie have changed the world for the better if it was a box office hit and received critical acclaim? Because I think we should care about our planet as much as we care about our fellow human beings. I'm glad that social equality is trending all over hollywood and the oscars. But we don't get a lot of movies like this one. Movies that cares about what we're doing to our own planet. "It's not about the money. It's about sending a message." The Joker said that (not joking). And I'd like to believe that even though this movie has its imperfections and it's not for free, the goal is less about the money and profit and more about the planet and our human spirit.
The problem is we DO care about the earth the same as we do fellow human beings. Sure, we may help when it's convenient, or trendy, or inescapably needed, but mostly everyone is just out for whatever they can get and screw everyone else.
Kingdom Hearts no, sadly not. I have a cinema degree and though film can create change both good and bad it often does not spark massive shifts in the public. Walle was not well received because the whole premise is we've destroyed, killed the earth but walle is a brilliant movie. This speech is smart. It pleads for people to work towards better. The tone of the movie isn't preachy. It's softer and says "be dreamers then do-ers."
Grayson Peddie this is perhaps the most detailed reply I've ever received....
But I liked the new tron. It was all about the horrors of warfare and genocide. Also I'm a fan of Olivia Wilde. Haven't seen the old 1.
@@alisonmoons6310 That only applies to capitalists, we’ve just let the capitalist machine gain too much power, strip it, bring in Socialism and Communism and things will get better.
the antichrist will bring the ultimate communistic state,
You will own nothing and be happy. the great reset.@@Zelink108
In every moment, there is a possibility of better future. 🥺✊🏼
I think the biggest issue with Governor Nix's speech is that he doesn't get what's really holding human kind back; it's not that we want to sink, it's that we think we're DOOMED to. You don't just show a population the problems, you need to present viable solutions as well. You have to give them HOPE. I understand that's the hardest part, but it's not impossible.
sometimes we have to make our own hope, that's asking someone to clean up our own mess
Well that’s pretty much spelled out when he’s told to shut off the tower and try a different approach and he refuses.
In summary:
We warned you, but this was your fault, so live with it.
...so live with it; because we warned you enough for you to learn to fix it.
Then Governor Nix teamed up with Andrew Ryan and Father Comstock to build Rapture and Columbia.
Would you kindly fix the world for me, please?
You do realize Rapture fell because it had guns and dangerous weapons you can get in every corner and was pretty much Ayn Rand/Atheists/Libertarians wet dream of a city.
Well his intention of Tomorrow Land is pretty “Atlas Shrugged”.
He is right, in way. But that doesn't mean there isn't anything we can still do about all the bad things in the world, instead of just keeping on fearing it all embracing em with media that doesn't do any good
OriginalTharios I appreciate you taking the time to write all this out, but I still stand by what I said
Screw the American media.
@@joewhitehead3 and people like you is who he’s talking about
@@WZ4RD3 People like me?
@@joewhitehead3 yes people like you
id like to argue with this but he does have alot of points
what is there to argue against, though? he's completely right
+turtleGenocide Nix is mostly right. But he made one mistake. He gave up on humanity.
that is the whole point of the entire movie. That is what was giving the monitor that result, most of humanity had already given up and is what was giving that result.
Everyone just complains and says everyone is doomed, going about it as if they didn't care about the world anymore.
That is the whole point of the wolfs dilema and why she is the hero of the movie.
Why would you like to argue with him if he has convinced you not too?
Campbell Lowrey The only irony is that he chastised humanity for giving up on Earth yet he'd given up on humanity long ago
Looks like Greta Thunberg was really motivated by this speech and she skipped the middleman... And were laughed at. Ridiculed.
I thought of this speech after the Democratic establishment ambushed Bernie Sanders and pumped up Biden to be the nominee, maintaining business as usual and full-speed ahead towards the iceberg. And the voters could not be more happy about it.
He says eclair in a strange way
Dramatic Hugh Laurie is the best
No denying that. Is this just a political speech, or does it have value?
Dr House
That is rich given the man spent his whole life as a doctor crushing the idealism out of others
@@MrAsaqe I think that just makes the irony of this scene bigger.
How was him the bad guy, again ?
Eduard GV Technically speaking he gave up on humanity when the warnings didn't work where Casey did not
elevate07 He's a bad guy. Complicated yes, redeemable if they didnt killl him off maybe, but still bad and has a lack of common sense . He tried to send Casey and the others to an abandon island to die even though Casey was pure of heart/sheer will and proof that not everyone craves distruction and that humanity was worth saving.
Also, she was a prodigy with technology snd that alone makes him an a**hole for trying to send her to her death. She would very least be very valuable to Tomorrowland. You would think a genius who leads a city that was originally based on finding talent would recognize someone like Casey, in which Athena called her even among the chosen recruits, special. Lack of common sense on his part but that could have been his arrogance.
Becouse he is give up
He was beaming a message into people’s head from a transmission tower that just made things worse instead of trying a different approach.
@@Midearth87 That’s a bit of a cartoonish simplification.
Its not in the LEAST surprising that this movie is dreadfully under rated and that the point of it is completely missed by most people. The movie itself explains why. Its like it EXPECTED to be a failure, but carried the message out nonetheless. One of my favorite movies of all time (if not my all time favorite).
Agreed, one of my favorite films ever it’s a shame that it didn’t get the success it deserves
Same.
That's because it asks from the people to wake up, and they don't want to. They realize that they are weak and they won't change because living in the illusion is easier. This is 10/10 movie, but again, in a world where people are blinded, selfish and limited - it's underrated.
100% agreed. Probably one of my favorite movies of all time because they went full tilt into arguably one of the most important messages we humans need to hear. So much detail in this movie, and yet for the most part, everyone just criticized it. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!! Oh wait, that's another good movie...
You get it.
Normal People: "This movie didn't do good because it has no good story..."
Me: "This movie didn't do good because people don't like hearing the truth."
"That future doesn't ask anything of you, today."
How true. Everyone wants everything to be made easy. Not hard or challenging. Just easy enough that no one has to do anything but watch T.V., eat cheeseburgers, get laid and die.
Nix was right, unless its a huge problem now, we wont do anything about it! We have to do what it takes to give ourselves a better future because no angel is gonna come down and give it to us for free!!
@@jediknight38 Great now your comment has made me hungry for cheeseburgers and sex
Dang the obesity and starvation epidemic part got me
It's so true humans are like contradiction incarnate
It's actually worse than that. We feed Third World children just enough and pump them full of antibiotics to stave off deficiency-related infections. We barely keep them alive only to watch them die in their teens and twenties. Why? Because dead children makes bad PR.
That's because we keep eating foods that have little to no nutritional value and serve no purpose but to fill us up and make us want more. So even though you're making yourself fatter, you're still going hungry because your body's needs are still not being met. You're just filling yourself up.
@Dawson Davis Being Vegan on an individual level makes absolutely no difference or impact whatsoever. Only when enforced on a massive scale does the real difference become apparent.
@Dawson Davis sorry I have to disagree. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water. I find that people who are more than 1 or 2 degrees removed from farmers tend towards veganism. I do not know if that remark applies to you, but I’d encourage you to look at regenerative agriculture. Regenerative agriculture - making use of animals, not over exploiting the land and using soil for better carbon capture - is the sustainable route. Animals have been demonized but humans need them. We need protein and fats to live, not carbs, which is what veganism is based on.
This movie was so underrated.
This speech is beyond powerful.
Tomorrowland isn't a perfect movie, but I like the grandiose ideas it strives for. Optimism in the face of a cynical world. And this brilliant speech perfectly deconstructs today's cynical society. Have we resigned ourselves to the worst because we think it's the easy way out? It's something you rarely see in a Disney movie.
We "resigned ourselves to the worst" because the people who can do anything about it - the leaders - see it as profit, not risk. In their arrogance they believe wealth will save them from all of it, and in many cases they're right. But the rest of us will be buried while they huddle in bunkers.
@@korsekil You missed the point. The "people who can do anything about it" is all of us.
“Because that future doesn’t ask anything of you today.” That line has stuck with me from the first day I saw this movie.
I agree with you.
God this movie is so good and so relateable
Do you mind elaborating what that line means? Thanks, I get the whole context of Nix’s point but that line sort don’t get.
@@imperial_crest6809 I think it means that if we just sit and complain about how bad the world is but don’t take action it’s easy. We don’t actually have to do anything.
Basically that humans are lazy. Why do today what you can put off until tomorrow? Why do tomorrow what you can put off until next week? Eventually you keep putting it off until it's too late. But hey, why worry about that? That's the future, not today.
“In every moment there is the possibility of a better future but you people won’t believe it and because you won’t believe it you won’t do what is necessary to make it a reality”
Its true!! We can change things around if we believe it and do something about it! problem is people want to end, rather then keep going fight for a better brighter tomorrow.
Every time someone brings up the importance of mental health under the current circumstances, I remember reading in a book about film noir that the trope of criminal insanity was actually propaganda to deflect criticism of socioeconomic injustice.
Even i dont believe on that in this moment,but its true.
Seriously this speech inspired me better myself but physically mentally i used to be obese ate like shit didn't care and this scene just struck a cord with me that i turned my entire life around i workout everyday and eat healthy im in great shape
"...tv shows, video games, books, MOVIES."
I think he was trying to tell us something.
There's a reason why post-apocalyptic genres have become so popular. Also nihilistic shows like Rick and Morty.
EmptyMan000 Both this, Mother 3, and Final Fantasy 7 are some of the biggest examples of the Post- Apocalyptic genre
2007 - 2015 YT algorithms defaulted to a tsunami of Russian, InfoWars, David Ick, religious right negative sausage factory toxic videos exactly reflecting the Gov Nix speech. 👆inconvenient facts few mention bc Google had the good sense to start deleting much of it in 2015 when upgrading their algorithm.
@@gamertoon8230 Uh, Final Fantasy VII isn’t post-apocalyptic, if anything it is very environmental and anti-capitalist.
Great satire of media and it’s edgelord bs.
Some of the best antagonists are always those who have a point. Those who in a way fight for what’s right but fought for it the wrong way.
The best villains are those who tell the truth
But he doesn't have a point? 'Dystopian movies and video games are bad because I literally don't understand the philosophy behind them and I'm ignoring how greed is destroying everything' is a really stupid argument.
@@vfxninja5503 Not really stupid if it’s true. Humans have basically been doing to this world what should take millions of years in only a few centuries. The world is literally being set ablaze because of humanity and they don’t take the hint because they just don’t care.
@@xxcrowfeatherxx2540 the 0,01% of villains
Templars from Assassin's Creed
In more ways than we understand, we are witnessing exactly what Nix is saying.We are apathetic.
A real shame Disney fumbled the bag. Just like they did John Carter wrong. Show the movie to the youngest ones of your family. You'll see the flaming their eyes. Proper storytelling. A sleeper Cell.
Everyone I have heard walks away from this movie with the wrong idea. It's not supposed to beat you down and drag you through the mud. It doesn't matter how bad things are right now as long as you remember that "...in every moment there's a possibility of a better future."
It really boggles my mind. There are so many parts where it goes: "This is the point of the movie" and yet people completely miss it.
I adore this scene.
But I still believe in a better day tomorrow.
We need more people like you! 😁
@@infinitegod461 thank you 😊
And that's why I love this phrase from John Lennon : "I know I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. Maybe one day you'll join us, and the world Wille be as one."
I just give up... I doesn't belive in humanity anymore
I really loved the film, and this important speech given by the main baddie is very well important, for it is telling us to stop thinking about getting ready to give up and embrace the end of everything and do something to keep moving forward and find a way to avoid the apocalypse! So everyone who is watching or reading anything that revolves the end of the world, stop and find a way to prevent it now!! Fight for the Future! Feel Positive no matter what!
Exactly!! Nix was right, We can create a better future for ourselves but people refuse to believe and just sit allowing everything to decay and die when we have he power to change that!! I'll never understand why people want everything they've ever known to be destruction. Instead of becoming entertained by dystopian books and films why not actually start making Utopian stories and films to inspire people to make it a reality!! Miracles and dreams can happen but only if you put the effort and work into it!!
The one thing I found weird was that Governor Nix was kicking Casey out of Tomorrowland, when she had already demonstrated that she was exactly the type of person that he had wanted to reach - someone who wouldn't give up and was willing to do something to stop the apocalypse. He should have wanted to keep her in Tomorrowland, to save people like her.
its because it was only a glimpse, a glitch... it was not enough, for him. Maybe he, himself, had already given up and was kind of hoping for the world to end sooner rather than later.
She gave him hope and hope was toxic to him at this point... It is not like he was "too far gone", but to him it definitely felt that way, so he chose not to believe and that was what sent the monitor back to the apocalyptic future after she showed him the light.
It is possible that they didn't even need to destroy the monitor, but just stop sending its signal to everybody's head.
I think it's because he knew she would want to tell others and bring more outsiders in.
I like to think he probably gave up as well whether he knows it himself or not. He lost hope. Honestly can't blame him. As he said, they gave so many warnings, and we just keep ignoring it and instead embraced and glorified the doomsday instead of doing something to prevent it
This hits harder in the wake of the Covid pandemic: we went through a silent apocalypse where a faction of people did everything possible to sabotage all mitigation attempts, and any attempt to make things better on all fronts is met with culture warriors upset about the politics of it.
Id say this movie is slightly above average, might be "good," but this monologue is one of the best ever. It's so concise and poignant. It's not over done, and it speaks to easily observable facts of the world (politicians and industry never going to do whats best for humanity, people perpetually procrastinating (myself included), obesity and starvation). And Im one who generally hates the ramblings of Hollywood movies and actors, but this was spot on.
Kind of ironic that Disney made this movie...
As a Walking Dead fan I feel a bit guilty right now
Well at least someone admit how stupid, offensively dark and edgy that show has gotten, zombies are a BIOLOGICAL IMPOSSIBILITY yet it takes itself WAY TOO RIDICULOUSLY SERIOUSLY! Seriously I wish that dumb nonsense would just die already and those “Talking Dead” shills would just forget it.
Why should you feel bad that some crappy author's mouthpiece is crying at you that you choose to enjoy media that they don't create?
Seriously, how can anybody interpret this scene as anything other than the writers bawling their eyes out about THESE KIDS TODAY
I'm sure the fact that this movie wasn't as popular as it was supposed to be tells us all.
A society that thrived because it avoided those pointless wars. Is that in any way pointing at something... maybe?
And the saddest thing: After that magnificent speech all people will think is 'wow, that's really deep.' and then they'll just skip to the next movie or TV-show.
I just don't want to say what think of humanity right now.
The movie is a depressed pile of miserable garbage.
"People should be optimistic and make more happy movies because dystopian movies are bad! Now lets have a big stupid fight scene because this movie has no tone, and also is way more dystopian in vibe than optimistic, no matter what the labels we use in the script say."
The problem is that warfare has also advanced technology a lot. World War Two gave us computers, jet aircraft and spaceflight. The Korean War gave us modern emergency medicine. The Cold War gave us the Internet. Even in Star Trek it took a nuclear war that killed 600 million people to get people to wake up.
Besides a litteral desription of how humanity treats the earth, the speech is also a pretty good metaphor for how many people treat their bodies! :(
@OriginalTharios Icarus couldn't have put it better. "Inefficient"? It survived 4 billion years of radiation, meteoric bombardment and catastrophes of every imaginable nature to make us.
We're a part of nature. Our error is in forgetting this fact. If there's anything that's wrong with us it's in the "civilization" we created. The rest of nature has got it just fine. We're the ones who need to clean up our act.
OriginalTharios I’m guessing you thought you were witty and clever with this but you proved the simplicity of nature and its effectiveness
Our throats are evolved in such a way that we avoid choking on liquids
But if we want to be witty then let’s reverse the role
Engineering is better. Let’s use your “clever” formula
Go build a skyscraper from bronze. Go ahead. See how it works out
The point is that your analogy is that if you purposefully bypass nature’s safety check (epiglottis) then it somehow proves that nature is bogus in the design department?
@@ACoKyo I didn't even bother continuing the conversation after his first reply. I know a scientism fundamentalist when I see one. But I'll respond now. Look at this completely wtf jug of water hypothetical to me. Yeah, cause you see that happen in nature all the time.
"Nature is random"? What a totally myopic statement. Nature has patterns all over it. That's why we have entire fields of study based around examining it.
"Engineering is superior. Period." LOL. What, cause you say so, and so that's the end of the discussion? Will you report me for hate speech next or something?
Here's a challenge for your superior engineering: show me one new thing humanity had created that is as novel, complex, and capable of adjusting to its environment as the human body itself. One thing.
And then as a second challenge, if our engineering is so obviously superior, explain why nature existed in harmony for billions of years until the Industrial Revolution turned it into a plastic-choked toxic waste ball in just a few centuries.
Sorry, OriginalThanos, as a former atheist who used to think like you but, unlike how you appear, actually has an open mind, your engineering sucks ("Period.". Isn't that such a great comeback?) and if I had one wish it would be to get off this planet and live someplace it hasn't corrupted. I hate this modern world, and the only reason I haven't checked out is that someone needs to stand up to people like you and fix it.
The funny thing is that you don't see that no one is saying we shouldn't use our brains to improve things. Of course we should. That's exactly why we're here, to solve problems on a higher order that the rest of nature is ill-equipped to.
But where did these brains come from? That's right, that inefficient, random nature that you look down on. Nothing we've created comes close to the human mind that you now think has all the answers. You're like a new employee who thinks he knows everything wrong with his company 20 minutes into his first day of orientation. Nature has worked on the problems of our existence far longer than we have. We've been tasked with finding new solutions, but not taking the complexity of the problem seriously is the best recipe for failure.
We are not superior to nature. We are co-creators with it. The people screwing up this world are the people who have forgotten this fact.
@OriginalTharios Well, I know that mine doesn't need to insult and call names to make a point. Maybe it's because you don't have one that can be defended.
Fury Road was playing in the theater next to me when I saw this haha
At least the Mad Max movies don’t take themselves too seriously and are just pure entertainment, unlike OTHER types of that genre that I refuse to name.
This is hitting differently today
tbh this is one of my favorite monologues in cinematic history. Not just for its message, but coming from *Disney*, the most capitalist-appeasing, status-quo exploiting corporation on the planet. Only Brad Bird could get away with this.
Strive to make the world a better place. Make as many good ripples as you can. Produce happiness. That little positivity today just might matter in 200 years. And try to get others to help each other. It might not be worth YOUR time, but you don't matter. How you affect others does. Your actions all have effects and create unwritten history. Non-human beings and even objects count, too. Do what's best for the future.
And if something annoys YOU, remember that if it won't matter in 2 years, it doesn't matter now. Do what's best for the future world. If it will matter in a few years, do what you want.
so umm, WHY was he the bad guy again? lol
He give up...I think...after try everything, he just lost hope in humanity wen he see their stupidity...
@@sorban5352 He wouldn’t shut off the tower and try a different approach.
If God was real -he may be, not trying to spark a debate-, I whole heartedly believe that he would say this speech to the people of Earth. 100%.
OriginalTharios ...Except a majority of the gods that billions of people actually worship, usually specifically because they're benevolent? Seriously, what gods have you heard of?
OriginalTharios
That sounds a lot like the Norse, Roman and Greek gods, which have always felt more like a family TV soap rather than an actual mythology to me.
Anyway, you should check out the God of Judaism, Islam and Christianity sometime. It doesn't sound like you're all that aware or at least understanding of them.
Xackadee I believe his argument is similar to Lex Luthor's from BvS:DoJ. "If God is all good, he cannot be all powerful. If he is all powerful, he cannot be all good." Whatever you think of the film (BvS) or the character and his portrayal, the line raises an interesting theological discussion. If God is responsible for all things in his infinite power, he is thereby responsible for all bad things as well as good, and thus is not purely benevolent and kind. If the bad things in the world are caused by the power of choice and free will, which he has no control over(as is the argument for most who believe in the Abrahamic faiths), then from a purely logical standpoint, he is not all powerful. I am not saying either side is correct. I believe that if there is a God, their ways truly must be unknowable to us. Whether that's because ghd truly operates on a higher plane of understanding than we do, or if they are simply like the rest of us and are thus as enigmic as the average human mind, I cannot say. The simple fact is, many who see deities differently than those who worship them are one who lack faith in them. That doesn't make them wrong. Faith is not an argument, and one person's faith might be stronger than another's, but that doesn't mean their faith is right. Faith means accepting that you don't know the whole picture, but trusting that you don't need to know. Other people have faith in science, and that faith is just as correct as those who put their faith in a god, or the God. Even scientists understand they can never know everything, but they trust in what they do know to get them through whatever life throws at them.
OriginalTharios
If you believe God to be "a cruel, murdering, lying, ignorant hypocrite" then you do not have a valid understanding of the God that people of religion worship. It sounds a lot to me like you've dabbled in theological study without pushing to actually understand the theology - or the morality, for that matter - behind these religions. You know some things but have not seen the entire picture yet choose to believe you can fill in the blanks, like you know the end result of a 1000 piece jigsaw because you've filled in 400 of the pieces. Call that speculation if you would like, but regardless of how much you know or don't know, you have a clear lack of understanding and that is a simple observation of how I would place it.
OriginalTharios
To use a variation of your own words against you, if you cannot understand the basics, then there is no way that you can understand the things greater than those concepts. You grossly overestimate your knowledge and make claims you cannot live up to, because you have the arrogance to believe you know enough about religion to claim that God in any form is "a cruel, murdering, lying, ignorant hypocrite" which is fundamentally incorrect. It's not an excuse based on the concept of liking or disliking, it's a basic lack of understanding of God's character that a child would be able to correct you on. You have made an error so grevious that it invalidates any further comment you can make on the subject because you have demonstrated a failure of both knowledge and understanding.
Heck, even my puzzle analogy - which I only made to make a simple point - you somehow simultaneously took too far and entirely missed the point. Again, you fail to grasp the basics and in doing so discredit any further argument you may make.
Way smarter than Interstellar but way less successful... taste is a bitch :|
greg house
You mean Prince George
Big staircase I love House, but there are times when my brain remembers Prince (or Lieutenant) George.
He's 100% right... well, 99.9998% to be precise.
this is a perfect metaphor for the current state of human civilization. my dad used to say people had so much hope for the future the apollo program,concord, light rail, skylab they all gave people a glimpse of a better tomorrow people today have lost hope for the future.
Your dad lived in the age of World War II, the Space Race, the Cold War, and Mutually Assured Destruction. I wouldn't say "a better tomorrow" was in the minds of many at the time.
EmptyMan000 yes they had a lot of things like that to worry about but people had so more hope that there could be a better tomorrow but today people just sit on their fat behinds resign themselves to mediocrity and wait for death
Oh no worries, people do that anyway. That's pretty much what folks mostly did besides building and being ordered around by other folks in the past. Compare how many folks actually try to improve things vs. those who don't in every age and you will see that much.
No...not yet as long as the people like elon musk still exist,we as humanity still has hope
Wow one of the most painful truths in a movie I've ever seen
i dont think movie makers do this just for entertainment, its directed, they cant have this knowledge being only material focused. They wouldn´t use this symbolism, because this symbolism is only understood by spiritual , occult people or when u got dmt access.
But either people think its satanic or its random mumbo jumbo, or coincidence. People happily accept a cyber age, with the claim, it will make them more advanced to merge with A.I, because they have no idea about the possibilities that spirituality offers, because they dont want to beleive or accept it likewise they refuse their own potential. The comment section is for a part really sad, some people advice others to wear masks because of a corona pandemic they dont even know if it really exists or if they are lied to, others say not all movies show somehting its just entertainment. No ITS NOT, how clear does it have to be for your people your media is stuffed with symbolism, stuffed with information, stuffed with the all seeing eye, u have a all seeying eye in the prequel before every nickelodeon series, spoongebob has a episode about where he makes a trip wiht plankton, you have midnight gospel, adenture time shows u macro micro cosmos and symbolism throughout, u have the legend of zelda, with spiritual symbolism, u have in every single movie cover spiritual symbolism, eye, split face, mirroring, kaleidoscope, pyramide, apples, ouroboros etc., even the movie speeches tell you on the front cover, 2 ways in no way out on tunnel, mankind has met its match on override, get outa hell on saints row the game full with a fleur delis, u have in league of legends a blood moon event, and a dark star cosmic event where the chracters speak from a spiritually illuminated perception about chaos and order, you have a coven event with a black magic witch witch circle, you have netflix serieses about secret societies like The Order , The Blacklist tells you about the Cabal, u have in pokemon alchemy and secret socieites, harry potter has now a deadly hallow symbol which is a circle in a triangle split into two halfs, u have cyberpunk2077 which tells you how the world will look like if all becomes more technical, deus ex machina where humans merge with a i , wall e which shows the consequnces of gluttony, secret of mana, i Robot, company logos like starbucks, movie studio logos, like PERFECT WORLD and ILLUMINATION FILMS, Pixar Animation makes a movie called SOUL, which is about after life, a alcohol trademark called black magic, your celebrities telling you on twitter whats going on while half of their fans leave them because they claim they became "conspiracy theorists" or satanists or think they are joking, music artists talk about mind and love and how life is a dream, u watch inception reflecting how the world is created by you, SIlent hill tells you u live in your own hell, rick & morty creators advice on interviews to get a knowledge about psychadelics and your own mind. Animes have characters named to the representives of the qlipoth and tree of life, u play your way up to purify seraphs in date a live game, in black clover they tell you about the qlipoth and how your acts lead to its manifestations how it represnets your dark side. mob psycho tell you you have spiritual abilities, naruto is about the consequences of hatred and fueling it, berserk is highly symbolic and spiritual, akira is highly symbolic dystopic and spiritual, death note shows how power can lead to insanity and self initiated doom unbalnced crown chakra, neon genesis evangelion highly symbolic and spiritual, hidden messages, rahxephon highly smybolic and spiritual , vision of escaflown tells about a existence of mankind as atlantean souls., hollow knight highly symbolic and spiritual, the whole marrvel series and comics, hidden knowledge, spirituality, advanced technology, multidimensional understanding, especially the avengers and dr. strange, full metal alchemsit has a ouroboros in his main logo with a merkhaba double tetrahedron inside, in World of warcraft you have a diagram of the structure of this dimension void lightt death life, symbolism, spiritual knowledge in a conflict with eachother exactly like you are a split being, your soul is split and seperated in a conflict of polarities making you percieve the world dual , unbalanced. star wars is about how the world is imprisoned by a force in a reaccuring cycle consisting of light and darkness in conflict and creating a perpetual replay of events, spirituality, psychic abilities, Persona is about secret societies , spirituality nyx shows you tarot cards to make up the fate of mankind, u fight against a endboss caleld Yaldaboath, plenty of symbolism in it also, Disneys movie company name is DREAMworks, daft punk sits in a pyramid on their concert with a howering top and flexes triangles talking about how you accept the robotic age, one punch man has symbolism and spiritual knowledge in it, ice cube tells you about to inform yourself about the black cube of saturn and gets laughed down by his fanbase, chingy tells you about kundalini in a interview, eminems venom tells you about your darker side, nicki minaj has a song called starships, disturbed new album is called immortalized, Do u actual listen to metal lyrics or do u just bang your head because it sounds cool, do u even undertsand the symbolism on their covers, oh iron amiden has a album brave new world, hey the last song on iron maidens new album senjutsu is called hell on earth and their main logo is encircled by a snake, metallicas greatest hits album has a multifold face, hm msut be the dweller of the abyss, hm all people are covering one eye on magazines, even the rolling stones or michael jackson, donald duck has a episode dedicated to sacred geometry and the golden ratio, alice in wonderland is a allegory for the creative potential and the hidden world within of man, hm there is a game called beyond good and evil, one man sky tells you the universe is a simulation created by a oversoul called atlas, ready player one, congrtaz u jsut game the chracter in your own game called life, avatar about how humans do not understand spiritual principles and are greedy, avatar the last air bender tell you how to open your chakras and how to connect to your higher self , life is strange is about that you create your own world and embrace the consequences of your doing feeling the emotions of others soemthing like a travel into your soul, because all IS, nice smybolism in there, all seeying eye in the toilet , also compass square in supernatural series on the wall, the man of letters main symbol is the thelema, in Men in Black they reference to the real MIB covering up supernatural phenomenas and other beings. nice new steam games btw such as NEW WORLD, oh they use symbolism in call of duty and battlefield, they tell you to elevate your mind in gta v on self-actualization fm, whats is the matrix movie actually about, oh to open your mind to unfold your potential, oh bill cipher in gravity falls actually represents the dream becoming a prison and he plays chess with stanford in the universe, wow there is a series called lucifer who started to become a different being maybe because lucifer represents the fallen consciouseness of man, the fallen man 666, descended to earth, oh there is a cartoon called helluva boss educating you about the dark aspects of your soul with a grimoire demon called stolas, lets watch Bladerunner 2049 together or Remniscence so we can know that we can always have the technology to live in a virtual world of our memories where the world was yet not completely technolyzed, when our own world became already a cyber world
Was watching the movie and thinking:"He spittin some straight facts."
A perfect explanation of why Post-Apocalypse changed from a fair warning and source of reflexion to a successfull genre for mass entertainment.
This movie had its "really????" moments but this part right here is a true treasure! It's happening right now and instead of people doing anything about it they just want to deny climate change all together.....i'm scared for the future; if we even get one!
Yup. We are all suffering for it now, and it's not like we weren't warned
He spoke the truth tho.
Dude Gregory house after Wilson's death is wack
I never thought any movie villain monologue would top all the things Heath Ledger's Joker said but.....it happened.
I think Phoenix’s Joker speech was better than Heath Ledger’s.
@@Zelink108 I think you're both wrong
Hate this movie all you want but there's no denying how true Nix's speech reigns
That's the pitch of "Don't look Up".
...an that's not the monitors fault.
0:03 The lecture that you get from your philosophical history teacher on your first day of high school
He's like pain (nagato) from naruto this should've had that song that was also playing while pain was doing his speech
He's not wrong.
If you think like that
What I really like about Tomorrowland is their comedy and the presentation of a perfect villain and their motivation, very similar to Thanos' point of view: "As long as there are those who remember what was, there will always be those who are unable to accept what it can be". There is every natural possibility about the happenings of disorder and crime, however no natural possibility for those who commit genocide, mass corruption and devastating loss. The powerful and the rich oppresses the defenseless, the beauty of mother nature diminishes into becoming endangered before permanent extinction, our personal trust and dreams destroyed after realizing such an amazing lie by some popular person who purposely using our love that benefits their egotism stronger and unchallengeable. To my perspective to Governor Nix; it is unwise to let the world destroy itself, yet some have valid points which are precisely related to Harvey Dent's advice: "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself as a villain". We must choose to act and choose surely, or else it is finite. Thank you for this video, fully appreciate it. 😉
Anyone else watching this when people are traveling by the masses despite a pandemic going on?
The more I watch the scene, the more I think and I realize Governor Nix makes a good point. Imagining the world's downfall does seem to be an idea for all of man kind.
You're seriously giving into that idea are you? WE'RE NOT DEAD YET! We still have a chance to change things! To delay our world's end long enough for our descendants to see Earth's true end. The boiling, giant and red sun.
In corona times this hits extra hard.
... 4 weeks later...
4 Years later…
The one character in this film I actually relate to. This guy is spitting FACTS and they're all just like 'oh but hope'.
Hope isn't enough when the majority of people are too lazy to make compromises.
I wonder if Hugh Laurie will give this same speech at the cop26 conference this week
1:35 it's because much of the time it's just as much what you eat as much as it is how much. Many people live in food deserts where fattening foods are far easier and cheaper to consume. As for starvation, blame centuries of colonialism, capitalism, and modern philanthropy more focused on PR and tax cuts than actually helping in a meaningful and lasting manner. Well you asked me to explain.
This movie needs a remake aimed for adults, not children
Children can't understand this
I think that the Disney logo turned off the "common sense core" in the adults' brain
Kyle Campbell Disney is geared for family. Their demographic was never only kids. It's why the humor is sly sometimes and the vocabulary is sophisticated for children. This movie is very much Disney. It's for dreamers and has a message. Disney has many constant themes and this movie shows many-1 being to care and be kind/help others.
I showed this to my 10-year-olds and they got it just fine.
Very.....TRUE. People have blinders on. Don't want to know the truth.
Honestly I did't understand what this whole movie wanted to say(and still now), but I was really impressed by this speech. It's one of the greatest lines of the movies I've ever watched.
Why because you give up on the world? You try you fail, you try you fail, but the only true failure when you stop trying.
@@infinitegod461 No, the failure is that we have leaders who will not do what is necessary for the future. And they brush the rest of us aside the moment we talk of real change. The line of leadership has failed, passed on to lesser men who are only as clever as clowns.
@@CactusCowboyDan True, but there are things people can do, like voting for politicians who favor science and the things you and I can do.
@@infinitegod461 The bourgeois control things.
I really enjoyed this movie and often replay it. I think this movie has a wonderful storyline 🖖🏼
This man be thinking contemporary humans are united and act as a monolithic whole lol
That is what we should be. But the people refuse to see it. Instead they dwell on their personal identities and national interests. As if that will matter in the end.
As bad as he is, we need people like David Nix in real life because there are so many problems and not enough people who care. Just like with the COVID-19 pandemic, no one seems to care about exercising caution as cases decline because they prefer the here and now. Everyone who sees the devastating consequences of non social distancing and not wearing a mask refuse to take the hint. Why? I’m glad you asked. Because people are addicted to their life styles and they think without those lifestyles, they’re dead. But I believe that adaptation is the key to seeing the greater good surviving. Accept that you’re not in control. And cherish the time you are given rather than asking for more
which covid u sheeple?
9/10 that's my rating for this movie that isn't on Disney+ for some reason!
2020... well time is running out
Only if you think like that
Video games = Fallout 4
T.V. shows = The Walking Dead
Books = Ready Player One
Movies = Mad Max, RoboCop
Hey the movie and books examples you gave aren’t meant to be taken so seriously just pure entertainment, they are pretty over the top gleeful and self-aware about it, not sure about Fallout 4, but the TV example is on the nose, screw that series.
Ready Player One and Robocop aren’t post-apocalyptic though.
@@Zelink108 But they do both take place in a dark and nearly hopeless future, though.
@@Zelink108 u are fkng blind, playing breath of the wild with a blood moon, trinity/triforce, emotion willpower strength gods of hyrule, link zelda ganondorf, having to face yourself which is shadow link, do u want more ? omg all u watch , play, read warns you, all has the eye , all has symbolism all tells you about the mind, new series midnight gospel about how u create your worlds with your mind, how what u experience is a reflection of your soul, form the make of adventure time which is highly symbolism filled. U think tis only abou the apocalypse no dude, u are made enlightened, u are told whats goin on, you are told where it possibly heads, you are told how to open your mind, why its important, told about meditation, eye is third eye, its about learning spiritual stuff, its about learning your thoughts create reality, its about to bcome illuminated to leave this prison. all shows you this, open your eyes.
he makes a good point
He tried to control people through fear instead of inspiring them through hope.
Now i understand why the critics didn't like this movie, too much truth in it
He's not wrong. In all reality we are in the middle of an extintion level event.
I think you are overplaying COVID-19 just a little bit.
I’m not saying it isn’t a big dead, just that you are exaggerating and just spreading more panic.
WW3 is looking pretty bad huh?
Before COVID 19
He can’t be right Walt Disney Villain Governor Nix?
This is just Creepy.
Now he’s going to tell them his whole plan, and then he’s going to come up with some complicated way to kill them and they’ll find an equally complicated way to escape.
Why is this guy the villain again?
Yeah, seriously, why is he? He's absolutely making some fantastic points.
He is though, he's the one who just accepted doom.
@@Neojhun It doesn't seem like he wanted to accept it. A 99.994% chance of world destruction, down from 100%, really shouldn't raise eyebrows. Nix understands logic and numbers and he tried to make everyone else wake up. Having heard his speech and explanation for everything, what else could he have done?
There is a difference between a "Villain" and an "Antagonist".
He is more towards the latter than the first.
He forsake any hope for the future, even when he sees what seems to be a glitch in the prediction of the future which begs the possibility that there is still hope.
His robots are the villains which are trying to kill the MC and the robot girl.
He just wants to rest and is extremely angry, with reasons, against human race in general.
But his efforts to stop the main characters of the possibility of hope is what makes him the antagonist, as that turns him into one of the variables pushing humanity towards doom.
Accepting the doom means you're giving up, Do you want to be known as a giver upper?
thank you for this
And he’s supposed to be the bad guy? He was the most down to earth one
He's using the Monitor to put hopelessness to humanity that there's nothing they can do to prevent the destruction of nature.
His vision of Tomorrow Land is basically “Atlas Shrugged”, he is a Randroid.
Came here again after the UN report this week.
Damn dr house going to the future
Hey is Richard Roper (The Night manger reference!!)!!!
Isn't it interesting, how Sometimes the villains make more sense then the hero's?
He’s not wrong. Can’t deny that.
What does dr house doing here?
Why didn't this movie do well at the box office ? Easy. The truth hurts.
The future is now
Amazing movie