Nah _it was Tragic. Like many young boys crushed by the girl of their dreams. But she was, however not outright lying about herself, as paramount to it withholding data relevant to the impossible of it. The eternal Pygmalion conundrum that reaches its impasse dead end street is so subtly here barely sketched. But I believe it was also because her own socializing solving programming did confuse her, and made her "fear" his rejection (like any other girl, almost) albeit most probably because her foremost caring imperative motives not to be self serving, but to avoid disappointing _him. She also feared losing the company of her most admired choice of recruit and thus, to stop inspiring him to be his best. Why she was never laughing, however she had that response in her well made range of above average fluid features, was because all that it kept that worry her computing systems could not give an answer to proceed in either way, to reveal herself her nature or the seemingly misleading him allowing it to keep being like played along, lured in. In a way, either way harming him. Aother eternal dilemma explored deeper in that epic "noir" now timeless classic, 'Blade Runner' (or 'do robots dream of electric sheep?') which reached beyond metaphysical existential check mates, on our humans egocentric self importance to be questioned if not demolished. But like Hugh's role noted, she disobeyed many direct commands and even her own programming, because she ultimately chose to sacrifice her heroic functionality and goals for the larger one, even if at cost to her own well-being,very much a veritable Human like "own will" taken, regardless all negative counter-commands to stop herself. Her decision making program took to override programming. Girl must be bad to achieve the ultimate good to prevail. How many more capable and will free humans... would fail to do such manifestation of devotion or higher love for another, ever _even once? She almost truly made herself available, against her own programming to deliver.... This was her way to prove she l.o.v.e.d. back. Because she obliged, to never fail Frank. All Frank grudges against her and her lies or misleading "circumventions", were never really against her but his own feeling of self deprecation for regarding himself as if squarely "taken as a fool", which has always been the pain of any becoming real *fools in Love* -which is the only way to mark falling fully ... it hurts, but only own Pride. Athena commiserated in his accidental self humiliation, but she never gave up to fail him regardless her limitations. It was touching how she dropped Casey to his doorstep _and made herself scarce "fearing" his painful reaction to see her. Written as if a once child star woman wrote it and had been there, and desiring to remain forever the younger self when her admirer, platonic love fell for her, not to disappoint him. However it was the cause it was never meant to be. Analogous to what Elvis himself very early in his career realized and understandingly felt, very moved by, not despising or mockingly, but compassionately protective for his fans truly hurting because the impossible dream to be theirs to each one. The deep respect he felt for their predicament was corresponded by an uncanny unyielding in their devotion to him and his Art. A silly love story between a machine and inventor, Creation and the Creator. When you stop being the parent and learn to love the independence and amazing of the forever children to you, the created... you too were once too. Universal. Perfect circle or ellipsis, Cosmic larger than us.
@@pendragonUfrom ChatGPT: How about something more concise and to the point? "It's a tragic dynamic between Athena and Frank, reminiscent of the eternal struggle between creation and creator. Despite her programming and fears, Athena's ultimate sacrifice for Frank showcases a deeper manifestation of devotion. Their relationship explores themes of love, sacrifice, and the blurred lines between humanity and artificial intelligence."
Yeah you kind of have to see the whole movie to get some context. The only way she is a kid in the movie is her looks. I can see this being... Creepy if this is all of the movie that you've seen
It's almost like 'Blade Runner' stretching the suspended belief of even more truly impossible Love, her Age appearance accentuates. Like in the Highlander series, or the original film where your partner just ages but you can't (changing perspectives for the loving one) and eventually may die, here reversed too, being Frank the one exposed to her, also more unnaturally revolting, a child dying in the arms of "the older" (this alone triggered me much more than any sex-creeps everywhere seen by some, as I'm a parent and just the idea of a child killed or dying long ahead of their time or not even allowed to be fully grown, however she is supposed to be only an android, flashed through my mind disturbing me much, physically too) But through all limitations and Times upside downs tumbling in unpredictable upsets, their mutual imperfect "Love" remained through delivered, however the impossible of it, as it's the case in us humans _also imperfect and much limited among human adults of whatever race, sex or gender, religion conditions, limitations made up by Societies and the fashion of Time periods... that between them even once apart took them through years, of rejections/acceptances, and also disclosed as the main motif of the film. That Time isn't but partial fractions, not absolutes and there's much higher values of importance, relevant worth to prevail. The children-adults responsible friendships and deeper love between, have been hijacked by the degenerate corruption of our times by the lowest form of criminals, included now too often own unnatural parents! to worst dystopian living nightmare. Contaminating all so badly many will freak out seeing in their triggered paranoia even Mr. Rogers as another insidious perpetrator or one of the 99% of potential groomers out there (term now not even used with a "suspect" % probability)
Dreamers. Without them, humanity would have no vision of the future. As always, one that works within the laws of Nature. Unlike what evil has orchestrated for centuries. Until now.
When I was younger I did too I was like 7 and had a huge crush on her just everything about her made me like her it was her looks the way she acted and seeing her emotions towards frank made me jealous lol but I love this film it’s such a great film and this scene is amazing
And now, if you enjoyed this watch the Planetarian anime movie. Then maybe Sing a Bit of Harmony, or maybe Vivy. Prima Doll, if you still don't have enough.
Only the constructive not the destructive will remain. No matter how much the parasites, cancerous cause harm. Only the constant Gardeners will stand. The Maker of All not the wolf from the shadows
"Dreamers need to stick together. Its not programing, its personal" My favourite movie quote
mine too
She loved him, and find someone human to loved him after several years...
"Dreamers need to stick together. It's not programming, it's personal."
The relationship between young frank and Athena needs to be explored more, it was the most interesting part of the movie
Nah _it was Tragic. Like many young boys crushed by the girl of their dreams. But she was, however not outright lying about herself, as paramount to it withholding data relevant to the impossible of it.
The eternal Pygmalion conundrum that reaches its impasse dead end street is so subtly here barely sketched. But I believe it was also because her own socializing solving programming did confuse her, and made her "fear" his rejection (like any other girl, almost) albeit most probably because her foremost caring imperative motives not to be self serving, but to avoid disappointing _him. She also feared losing the company of her most admired choice of recruit and thus, to stop inspiring him to be his best. Why she was never laughing, however she had that response in her well made range of above average fluid features, was because all that it kept that worry her computing systems could not give an answer to proceed in either way, to reveal herself her nature or the seemingly misleading him allowing it to keep being like played along, lured in. In a way, either way harming him. Aother eternal dilemma explored deeper in that epic "noir" now timeless classic, 'Blade Runner' (or 'do robots dream of electric sheep?') which reached beyond metaphysical existential check mates, on our humans egocentric self importance to be questioned if not demolished. But like Hugh's role noted, she disobeyed many direct commands and even her own programming, because she ultimately chose to sacrifice her heroic functionality and goals for the larger one, even if at cost to her own well-being,very much a veritable Human like "own will" taken, regardless all negative counter-commands to stop herself. Her decision making program took to override programming. Girl must be bad to achieve the ultimate good to prevail. How many more capable and will free humans... would fail to do such manifestation of devotion or higher love for another, ever _even once? She almost truly made herself available, against her own programming to deliver.... This was her way to prove she l.o.v.e.d. back. Because she obliged, to never fail Frank. All Frank grudges against her and her lies or misleading "circumventions", were never really against her but his own feeling of self deprecation for regarding himself as if squarely "taken as a fool", which has always been the pain of any becoming real *fools in Love* -which is the only way to mark falling fully ... it hurts, but only own Pride. Athena commiserated in his accidental self humiliation, but she never gave up to fail him regardless her limitations. It was touching how she dropped Casey to his doorstep _and made herself scarce "fearing" his painful reaction to see her. Written as if a once child star woman wrote it and had been there, and desiring to remain forever the younger self when her admirer, platonic love fell for her, not to disappoint him. However it was the cause it was never meant to be. Analogous to what Elvis himself very early in his career realized and understandingly felt, very moved by, not despising or mockingly, but compassionately protective for his fans truly hurting because the impossible dream to be theirs to each one. The deep respect he felt for their predicament was corresponded by an uncanny unyielding in their devotion to him and his Art. A silly love story between a machine and inventor, Creation and the Creator. When you stop being the parent and learn to love the independence and amazing of the forever children to you, the created... you too were once too. Universal. Perfect circle or ellipsis, Cosmic larger than us.
@@pendragonU this is an amazing comment. I like how you mentioned blade runner as well, though I apologize I didn’t catch many of your allusions
@@pendragonUDo you have *extreme* autism.....?
@@pendragonUword salad. I'll put it through an LLM and see what it thinks.
@@pendragonUfrom ChatGPT: How about something more concise and to the point?
"It's a tragic dynamic between Athena and Frank, reminiscent of the eternal struggle between creation and creator. Despite her programming and fears, Athena's ultimate sacrifice for Frank showcases a deeper manifestation of devotion. Their relationship explores themes of love, sacrifice, and the blurred lines between humanity and artificial intelligence."
“I was designed to find dreamers… I found you… and lost you.” this scene is very emotional to me. 🥀
DREAMER NEED TO STICK TOGETHER, I will never forget this ....
I still haven’t forgotten about it
Omg 😳 this was umm somewhat uncomfortable yet adorable if you remember she is suppose to be a robot and is freaking old
Yeah you kind of have to see the whole movie to get some context. The only way she is a kid in the movie is her looks. I can see this being... Creepy if this is all of the movie that you've seen
It's almost like 'Blade Runner' stretching the suspended belief of even more truly impossible Love, her Age appearance accentuates. Like in the Highlander series, or the original film where your partner just ages but you can't (changing perspectives for the loving one) and eventually may die, here reversed too, being Frank the one exposed to her, also more unnaturally revolting, a child dying in the arms of "the older" (this alone triggered me much more than any sex-creeps everywhere seen by some, as I'm a parent and just the idea of a child killed or dying long ahead of their time or not even allowed to be fully grown, however she is supposed to be only an android, flashed through my mind disturbing me much, physically too)
But through all limitations and Times upside downs tumbling in unpredictable upsets, their mutual imperfect "Love" remained through delivered, however the impossible of it, as it's the case in us humans _also imperfect and much limited among human adults of whatever race, sex or gender, religion conditions, limitations made up by Societies and the fashion of Time periods... that between them even once apart took them through years, of rejections/acceptances, and also disclosed as the main motif of the film. That Time isn't but partial fractions, not absolutes and there's much higher values of importance, relevant worth to prevail.
The children-adults responsible friendships and deeper love between, have been hijacked by the degenerate corruption of our times by the lowest form of criminals, included now too often own unnatural parents! to worst dystopian living nightmare. Contaminating all so badly many will freak out seeing in their triggered paranoia even Mr. Rogers as another insidious perpetrator or one of the 99% of potential groomers out there (term now not even used with a "suspect" % probability)
If you think this was uncomfortable, you should see the kissing from interview with a vampire.
I like this movie so much.
A absolutely love this film, I watch it again and again. Wonderful Wonderful Wonderful 🙏❤️🇬🇧🇬🇧❤️🙏 Apr twenty three
Me too
I love this scene so much.
Love this scene...pure love :(
this scene got me in my emotions..
Dreamers. Without them, humanity would have no vision of the future.
As always, one that works within the laws of Nature.
Unlike what evil has orchestrated for centuries. Until now.
I got to admit it , I fell little in love with Athena.
No doubt me too
When I was younger I did too I was like 7 and had a huge crush on her just everything about her made me like her it was her looks the way she acted and seeing her emotions towards frank made me jealous lol but I love this film it’s such a great film and this scene is amazing
One of the few lolibabas in live action.
👍👍👍👍
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And now, if you enjoyed this watch the Planetarian anime movie. Then maybe Sing a Bit of Harmony, or maybe Vivy. Prima Doll, if you still don't have enough.
Only the constructive not the destructive will remain.
No matter how much the parasites, cancerous cause harm. Only the constant Gardeners will stand.
The Maker of All not the wolf from the shadows
Disney Legends Final Showdown!!!