Because she didn't pay what she said she was which is why she wasn't worried about a receipt . They had a shiesty business deal going on. Why you think he's only suing her for an attorney's fee and not back rent?
Even if he had the key piece of evidence from the lawyer it would have still made no difference. The case was already settled. These folks should have just stayed home.
They inspected a six bedroom house, and allowed her to rent it on a four bedroom voucher. What he said made no sense. They wouldn't have allowed her to rent it, if she couldn't rent it. That wasn't fraud.
completely agree, I don't think he would have collected since his attorney had negotiated if she moved out they would drop the case. LIke the judge said, he can't revive the case since an agreement was met in the other case. So unprepared and uninformed.
rent is so expensive in Jersey that the portion they pay is equal to average full rent in other states. what I can get in Pennsylvania for $1100 can be rented in some areas of NJ for over $3500/mo or higher
I agree. I worked for a Property management company and I saw a lot of able bodied people on section 8, Food Stamps and Medicare. And all those people always seemed to have money for things like Beer, Cigarettes, Weed and/or other Drugs. I also see people all the time at the store using food stamps for food but then buy lotto.
And he was talking so slow trying to be careful he says what he “thinks” the right words would be. They both annoyed me and I’m glad they both got 0. I’m also glad the judge was just as annoyed and spoke on my behalf 😂
Judge Mathis loves jumping on the litigants when either of them uses that phrase, and he usually throws in the 'had'-- "Well what had happened was." 😄...and then he nails 'em with "Yeah, right. I know you lying now" as he looks over at Doyle and they both start laughing. 🤣
What did she do to abuse the system?because it sounds like the plantiff was frauding the system . It’s like you people share a brain cell no one can think logically
I love Judge Milians quote "grab the nearest toilet paper and crayon" that's great in theory but I wonder if she ever tried to actually write something on toilet paper with a crayon because I can't see that going well 😅
But then I've seen people give her something for evidence just written on a scrap of paper and she says "what's this it's just some writing on a scrap of paper" she has different opinions all the time.
There was a case where someone did come with crayon written on a piece of toilet paper as a receipt. She was so happy yelling "finally someone who listened!"
@@Jsmall910 It depends on the circumstances. I guarantee you whenever she said that, that piece of paper was not being presented as proof that money exchanged hands. Like that one time this woman said she bought something and her "receipt" was a statement from her boyfriend saying she paid for it.
I’m on the Section 8 waitlist- I have a JD, teacher certification , expired real estate license and construction property management certificate…. maybe a PhD in the future.
THE JUDGE GOT IT RIGHT....IF you disagree then you're an idiot. I was so confused....bro you come to court but don't have a receipt cause YOUR lawyer said the retainer is sufficient????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I busted out laughing literally. He wasted more money going to court.
JM: if they don’t give you a receipt, don’t hand over the rent money. Me: follows advice^ Landlord: refuses to give me a receipt; I refuse to hand over cash; landlord filed eviction notice based on failure to pay rent.
Always surprised when someone can't prove attorney's fees. Every attorney I've ever dealt with as an accountant loves sending out invoices with all their billable hours and descriptions to justify their high costs.
His lawyer must've been a friend of his, told him the value of what they were doing in lawyer's service, but were smart enough not to put it to paper in written form. That might've gotten the bar to revoke their license.
Imagine renting a big house from section 8. Here I am working my a-- off to rent a tiny little apartment. Others getting special section 8 treatment for big houses.
Two of her three kids (that we know about) living in this government subsidized, six bedroom house are adults. How about those two get jobs to help pay rent instead of being a drain on society? I’m sure there are several others living in that home, all rent free or paying the defendant very little each month. I’ve seen it happen in section 8 homes in a neighborhood where I used to visit. It’s always the same: ghetto people pack in as many kids, cousins and boyfriends as they can tolerate; party all night - sleep all day; tear the house apart; barely pay rent; and then move on at the point they are evicted. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
I believe the plaintiff about the verbal agreement, that's why she went through a private landlord. Its much easier to work out deals. Why else would she not pay her rent every month but pay for oil every month. Doesn't make logical sense. She was unaware of the how much she would be dishing out every month for the oil which is why she started giving him a hard time and he wanted her out.
You've never had a bad landlord who refuses to pay necessary utilities for your house, have you? What would you do if your landlord stops, and refuses to pay, the gas, electricity, or water bill? Are you just going to go without running water? Without being able to cook? Sit in an apartment in the dark? Or are you going to pay those utilities, switch them to your name, etc?
She wasn’t required to pay for heating oil, typically the landlords pays for it and the plaintiff confirmed he was supposed to pay for it per the lease.
Why would she let a man inject her vagina at least 3 times to give her kids they both can't afford and who will most likely grow up to be thieves and murderers?
They both can't tell the truth. He says he paid the oil than he said will she agreed to pay the oil. She says she paid the rent than she had no proof. When it comes back to bite her too. I hope she remembers what she'd said to millions of JM viewers.
Harvey I know you'll never read this but I will answer that question once and for all. If there were a tremendous amount of people that rented that either destroyed the places or it didn't pay rent all you capitalists would never rent another apartment you have some here that have problems but overall the system is good profits of being made by landlords and big capitalists that have enormous Apartments including slumlord Apartments. If no money was being made landlords would never go into this business
I'm curious if the guy talking in the beginning, as they walk to the stand, pre-records the intro and they play it back, or is it live and he has to get it perfect every time.
The planttiff is lying. I have worked with Section 8 tenants in my rentals. They are given a set dollar amount based on the number of bedrooms they are required to have per the housing authority rules. If she had 3 children the number of bedrooms would be either 2 or 3 depending on the age and sex of the children. There can be no more than 2 children in a room and boys and girls cannot share a room after the age of 7. She probably only needed a 3 bedroom house but she is correct, if the voucher she is given is for a $1,200.00 a month rental and she finds a place that has 10 bedrooms in it, she can rent it. The housing authority doesn't care if there are to many rooms, they only care if there are enough rooms. However, I would not rent a 10 or 6 bedroom house to someone who doesn't need that many bedrooms simply because they want them. The higher the original rent is, the more the tenant has to pay and if you are on Section 8, it's for a reason. In her case she obviously couldn't pay the higher rent or any rent at all. Also, homes with more than 2-3 bedrooms are hard to find. If landlords are renting their homes that have 4 or more bedrooms to people who don't really need them, they are leaving larger families without a place to live. If they have a family that requires a 4-6 bedroom home, their voucher is going to be for a lot more than someone with a 2-3 room voucher. They are able to charge more for the home because there are more people living in it. Any landlord who would rent to someone with a voucher and not know all the rules shouldn't be renting to Section 8 tenants. The planttiff is one of them landlords. If he made a verbal agreement with her outside of the agreement with the housing authority, he could be charged with fraud and removed from the eligible landlords to rent from list that the housing authority keeps. The tenant would also loose her voucher permanently. I'm surprised she didn't for not paying the rent. The housing authorities I have worked with are very strict about this. The tenant pays a very small portion of the rent. It equates to no more than 30 percent of their income plus they receive a certain set amount for utilities that they are responsible for paying. If they are responsible for all utilities they will receive a credit for an amount set by the city or county housing authority depending on which one is subsidizing their rent. It's usually around $200.00 a month. That amount is subtracted from the already reduced rent so it actually could be said that they don't pay for the utilities either. If their income is $900.00 a month, 30 percent would be $330.00, minus the deduction for utilities and they are paying $130.00 a month for what could be a $1,000.00 or more per month, home. Not a bad deal, yet some still don't pay their share. They are also restricted to a deposit no higher than the 30 percent income and if they do damage to the property or don't pay the rent that totals more than the deposit, the landlord can file a claim with the housing authority and they have a contract with the the landlord to pay for all amounts over the deposit. The tenant is supposed to loose their voucher if a claim is made but they rarely do. Nice program right? Our tax dollars hard at work. I'm not saying it isn't a good or needed program. But there are to many people who abuse it and never suffer the consequences for their actions. I like knowing that my rent for the most part is always going to be paid on time. However I don't charge more for my apartments that are rented to Section 8 tenants than I do any other tenants. I also make sure they pay their portion and also have 12 hour notice inspections on all of my apartments 2-3 times a year and pay attention to the exterior of the home. Inspections are the easiest way to protect your property and help keep it maintained. Tenants don't always call for minor problems until they become bigger problems. Inspections are legal and they are a part of my lease, they work. Unannounced interior inspections are not legal unless the tenant agrees to let you in. It may be your property, but it's their home... RESPECT GOES BOTH WAYS.
It makes me sick to know how little these people pay on rent while the middle class works their ass off to survive but still struggle with no help. While these people are being handed the easy way out. I said what I said.
It is nauseating. The one time I needed help for just food for my 4 kids, the govt said I made $65 too much. I'm pretty bitter about it. All these years I paid into a system only to get rejected in my time of desperate need.
Exactly .. just makes no sense, section 8, food stamps, full health insurance. And other countless go benefits but why bother getting a job just keep reproducing and showing up the class on how to get a job. But dont actually get tho. Or bye bye benefits
I pay $500 for my apartment. I don't get assistance. It's the going rate where I live.....but it's like the other commenter said - Cheap rent will cost you. Section 8 controls you and takes away some freedom of privacy. And renting a cheap apartment has the problems that cheap apartments have, like the neighborhood, etc. Here's what you are doing wrong - Not living life on your own terms and being jealous of someone who is worse off than you. (Maybe not? Because having a mindset that you want to pay $400 for rent, like it's something to be jealous of?)
The way y’all hate the poor is very telling. I’ve assisted Section 8 recipients while volunteering and the way ppl also take advantage of them because they’re poor is disgusting. And btw non section 8 tenants won’t even think about renting many of these properties.
hes sweating 'should i tell the judge about my shonky deals' half way through a story you can see his brain catching up to his big mouth 'oh shit, reverse reverse'
He’s a liar. The lawyer’s retainer was probably $700 and the plaintiff only paid $160. That’s why he couldn’t produce a receipt showing a $700 payment. The lawyer might have told him to bring the retainer agreement (not the receipt for the partial payment) as evidence of the outstanding debt he has to pay.
He's lying and section 8 will not agree to pay for a unit without inspecting it first. I lived in a 3 bedroom 2 bath for 16 and a half years because my landlord agreed to accept my two bedroom voucher. And section 8 agreed to my lease for the amount they agreed to pay for after they inspected my unit first. Let's be clear it's a contract between the landlord, tenant and section 8. They don't just pay out funds without seeing what they're paying for.
I am team plaintiff. She had a 4 bedroom house deal and he turned it into a 6 bedroom house deal if she paid the oil. Then she probably realised how much the oil cost and stopped paying rent. He wasn't even asking for the missed rent, only the lawyers fees. She was the scammer. He was OK.
You can tell Judge Millian owns a lot of property and is a landlord herself. Not only has she said it multiple times, but you can just see how angry she gets over bad tenants.
I work in housing and this happens all the time. I absolutely believe the LL made this deal with her. It’s helps the tenants out the LL always end up losing out because it’s a word of mouth agreement.
No you wouldnt. Not a section 8 home. Section 8 standards have fallen way down. The houses now barely pass inspection. But i get what you're trying to say.
The judge obviously has a discriminatory attitude for section 8 tenants. How disgusting for the Judge to talk to the defendant in such a nasty tone. She didn't speak to the plaintiff in that tone, despitehim not havingany proof for the case he brought. Shame
Right I totally agree with you 💯👏🏾she definitely does have a bad attitude towards section 8 low income cases just like judge Judy always talks down on stay at home mom's gladly they aren't real judges they are just TV judges
J. Millian, really? "You don't like to pay rent?.... the little bit of rent that you have to pay?" The statements and tone are so unnecessary. It's times like these that her bias really shows
Kurt looked like he was gonna bust up laughing in the hallway at the very end...and he Never breaks character. He can be quite the sass-box asking the plaintiffs & defendants their opinions on their wins or losses, but omg do I just love him. And his descriptions of the cases at the beginning always crack me up. I read someplace that he covers or announces baseball games or some kind of sport in NY. I wonder if he still does that? 🤔...if so, it would be cool as hell to listen to his color commentary. He strikes me as a very intelligent man. And I'll bet he's funny af 🤣 as well as being bright. Kurt's badass. 😂
I've been a tenant for 12 years.😂my landlord has scribbled my receipt on a note pad a many of times. And if he don't write one I go get a money order and slice it in half and keep my portion
Being a landlord anywhere is hell, but that's part of the job. Unfortunately, nowadays, too many landlords act like it shouldn't be. The biggest problem between landlords and tenants is the way they communicate. Too many landlords treat tenants as if they are bad ppl from the moment they move in. It kinda creates a self fulfilling prophecy with tenanties ending badly.
Sadly some are like this. I am a sec 8 tenant with two babies. We treat out home with respect. I’m grateful to have a roof over out heads. U are not wrong on ur observation.
In my personal experience, yes absolutely a common theme. Growing up I lived across the street from a section 8 household (only one in the neighborhood) and it stuck out like a sore thumb. The yard was overgrown and unkept with trash, toys, and random junk littered across the property. The inside reeked and walls stained with cigarette smoke among many other mystery stains on walls, floors, and appliances. Also holes in several walls, cigarette burns in caprets, broken trash bag taped window. They somehow couldn't come up with rent on their own so they rented out the unfinished basement by sectioning off "rooms" by hanging up sheets. Oh and some of their kids had those "sheet rooms" next to adult males addicts. 3 men died there from an overdose. But the absolute worst part was when the mothers children were coming up to adult age and she was going to lose her section 8 or at least the amount of section 8 see was receiving (not sure which one)... she started having her teenage daughters get pregnant with the adult male roommates to keep the section 8 going. I was friends with one of the kids growing up and it was a literal hell on earth. My mom used to send food home with the little girl because she was always hungry and never had enough and the older guys would steal it from her and eat it all. My mom gave her our old TV for Christmas to put in her to have an escape and have something nice for once from Santa and the mother took it and put it in her own room. This is only ONE example of what I've seen, I've seen plenty more. Obviously that was more of the extreme side but the rest were not much better.
@@sashabenoit1518 It just goes to show what they say, The Government by paying these people to be worthless keeps them worthless. Welfare has destroyed the black family
@@markbrandon7359 I agree government support has A LOT of issues and helps the wrong people a lot of the time but the people I'm talking about are white. Every section 8 family I've seen are white, not that it matters
Of course there are really bad tenants out there, both in general and Section 8. Those are the situations (sometimes Court cases) that attract the most attention, for obvious reasons (just read some of the examples given here in the comments section of this video). BUT I believe that the majority of tenants , including Section 8 tenants, do NOT mess up the place they live in. And definitely NOT to the extreme that are visible in for example these Court cases. These are just normal people, doing their normal thing, living their normal lives. And that is exactly why this group is NOT seen; they don’t end up in Court or in the exiting stories that neighbors or family members share with each other. That’s why it may SEEM that they ‘all make a mess’: the other ones are simply too boring to be telling anyone about….
The plaintiff had a settlement prior to bringing this to court to not seek owed rent if the defendant moved. The defendant moved, thus fulfilling the agreement and so the plaintiff can't resurrect a lawsuit after concluding the settlement.
I'm pretty sure both litigants were scamming the Section 8 program, but the Plaintiff looked the bigger fool, in my opinion, due to his lack of evidence that... wouldn't have helped his case anyway.
I lived in section 8 housing growing up in California, they do an inspection before you move in and then one every year. You are allowed an amount of bedrooms based on the family size. However the landlord can say “den” or “office” so that then it’s a 4 bedroom house with a den and office.
You are right the inspection by the housing authority is completed prior to moving in. However, the number of bedrooms allowed is dependent upon the respective housing authority's occupancy guidelines.
@@aliyabloodworth5923but a den or office is still a den or office. Even if they saying could be used as a bedroom, it still counts as a den rather than a bedroom.
someone should bring in toilet paper and a crayon and see how well the judge can write on it , I can’t think of anything harder, what a ridiculous analogy.
I am so sick of these people coming to court without evidence for the exact case they’re trying to prove. Where do they think they’re going? 🤦🏽♀️
The beach!
@@drejones1823 Yes lol! In the words of judge judy
All they care about is their 15 minutes of fame
@@drejones1823 Beat me to it! 😀
To the beach in my judge judy voice🤣
Do people understand that they can buy their own receipt book and let the landlord write and sign it when they come to collect the rent?
That part
Yes they do if they want a receipt. Most dont for reasons I'm sure you know, they are called litigants.
Because she didn't pay what she said she was which is why she wasn't worried about a receipt . They had a shiesty business deal going on. Why you think he's only suing her for an attorney's fee and not back rent?
Where do landlords still come to collect the rent? Sherwood forest? The 1940's?
@@christimanley13 actually there are still landlords who personally collect rent.
He annoys me for some reason. He can’t put a sentence together without thinking about the next lie.
He’s like a low tier demon
Yes, that is why in the hallway he was speaking just fine. Those sentences were flowing. Yeah he was lying for sure in the court room.
I think he was just nervous stuttering
I got that impression, too
It’s called learning dosabled
Even if he had the key piece of evidence from the lawyer it would have still made no difference. The case was already settled. These folks should have just stayed home.
They inspected a six bedroom house, and allowed her to rent it on a four bedroom voucher. What he said made no sense. They wouldn't have allowed her to rent it, if she couldn't rent it. That wasn't fraud.
Even if the plaintiff had a receipt for $700, he would have lost since payment of his attorney's fees wasn't included in the settlement
Agree. Not sure he got that based on his exit interview
completely agree, I don't think he would have collected since his attorney had negotiated if she moved out they would drop the case. LIke the judge said, he can't revive the case since an agreement was met in the other case. So unprepared and uninformed.
Wow. I could not imagine only having to pay a portion of my rent and NOT even paying that!
Awe fuck man I put the emphasis on the wrong word 😢
@@jennylynx1869 lol it’s okay! Boy not and that emphasized works I think lol!
@@jennylynx1869 so edit it. No biggie
The struggle is real!!
rent is so expensive in Jersey that the portion they pay is equal to average full rent in other states. what I can get in Pennsylvania for $1100 can be rented in some areas of NJ for over $3500/mo or higher
The plaintiff doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed
I'm downright shocked and surprised this guy made this far in life. 😂
Sec 8 should be temporary help and only made permanent for seniors or handicap people who can't physically work.
No
In some cases it's generational.
I agree. I worked for a Property management company and I saw a lot of able bodied people on section 8, Food Stamps and Medicare. And all those people always seemed to have money for things like Beer, Cigarettes, Weed and/or other Drugs. I also see people all the time at the store using food stamps for food but then buy lotto.
I'm mentally disabled
Sounds like you wanna be on section 8
Plaintiff came to court on the short bus. Defendant came to court in the section 8 Limo.
Perfection in comment form right there! Nailed that.
😆😆😆 I had to laugh 😆😆😆
😂😂😂
Hilarious! 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 OMG section 8 limo
Also when the sentence starts like “Well what happened was” you know it’s a lie.
And he was talking so slow trying to be careful he says what he “thinks” the right words would be. They both annoyed me and I’m glad they both got 0. I’m also glad the judge was just as annoyed and spoke on my behalf 😂
well what HAD happened was"
Judge Mathis loves jumping on the litigants when either of them uses that phrase, and he usually throws in the 'had'-- "Well what had happened was." 😄...and then he nails 'em with "Yeah, right. I know you lying now" as he looks over at Doyle and they both start laughing. 🤣
Yes, in articulation is the new STUCK ON STUPID!
You forgot "What HAD happened was." 😂😂😂😂
People like her who abuse the system make me sick, it takes away from those who are truly in need
Don’t let it make u sick
If I was on section 8, I'd love it.
What did she do to abuse the system?because it sounds like the plantiff was frauding the system . It’s like you people share a brain cell no one can think logically
The plaintiff is just as worse
@@akairiyahiko2602 you’re so right I wrote this wrong. I meant the plaintiff and the judge tried to side with him
Wow! The last few cases posted have been great!
Milian looked really frustrated here.
I wouldn't be surprised if she became somewhat like Judge Judy. A lot of plaintiffs are just mudheads
I love Judge Milians quote "grab the nearest toilet paper and crayon" that's great in theory but I wonder if she ever tried to actually write something on toilet paper with a crayon because I can't see that going well 😅
But then I've seen people give her something for evidence just written on a scrap of paper and she says "what's this it's just some writing on a scrap of paper" she has different opinions all the time.
@@Jsmall910 yea, exactly
There was a case where someone did come with crayon written on a piece of toilet paper as a receipt. She was so happy yelling "finally someone who listened!"
many have with success.....
@@Jsmall910 It depends on the circumstances. I guarantee you whenever she said that, that piece of paper was not being presented as proof that money exchanged hands. Like that one time this woman said she bought something and her "receipt" was a statement from her boyfriend saying she paid for it.
Plaintiff is way too slow to be renting to Section 8 tenants who based on this show all have PHDs in Scamology.
Lmfao well said
😂😂 spot on 💯👍🏿
I’m on the Section 8 waitlist- I have a JD, teacher certification , expired real estate license and construction property management certificate…. maybe a PhD in the future.
Sounds as if you don’t need it !
Her: Section 8 told me I had 30 days or they were gonna take my kid
JM: Housing authority told you they'd take your kid?
Her: That's not what I said.
I want a 6 bedroom house too!
Go to Mexico and cross into Texas claiming Asylum
Have a bunch of babies by different men
Lol I don't, I got a 4 bedroom house and I spend everyday cleaning that before they come home and wreck it😂😂
@@wileecoyote5749shame on people trying to get a better and safer life! Stop being a political douche and look at it in a humane way
@@moniquehamilton5195spoken like a true bigot
THE JUDGE GOT IT RIGHT....IF you disagree then you're an idiot.
I was so confused....bro you come to court but don't have a receipt cause YOUR lawyer said the retainer is sufficient????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I busted out laughing literally. He wasted more money going to court.
Maybe his laywer is another tenant who has a deal with him
@@yourdreamghoul YOUR
@@yourdreamghoul🤔😒
I dont think Judge Milian has ever tried to write on toilet paper, especially with a crayon! Maybe a marker would work
Lol agreed on her ever trying to write on tp with a crayon but I think it would depend on how many ply the tp was for even a marker 😂
Why does the plantiff remind me of Stewie Griffin?😂😂😂😂
@sobrietywig2970 -
You're right! 😅😂😅😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂ABSOLUTELY...except STEWIE is smarter.
JM: if they don’t give you a receipt, don’t hand over the rent money.
Me: follows advice^
Landlord: refuses to give me a receipt; I refuse to hand over cash; landlord filed eviction notice based on failure to pay rent.
THEN WHAT?
@evildrporkchop26 then you suddenly become the bad tenant who never pays rent simply for protecting your rights.
whats the point of Douglas saying "all parties raise your hand" under oath when all these heathens do is lie?
Thanks for all the uploads!!!
I'm still stuck on how everyone was paying for gas but there was no heat 🤣🧐🤔
It was a bad winter 😂😂😂
People be so cruel about section 8 people, let’s those people be great. I pay my whole rent and I’m not mad at all. It’s hard to get assistance ‼️💯
Judge Millian is brilliant!
I just Love watching her and Judge Judy!!
Always surprised when someone can't prove attorney's fees. Every attorney I've ever dealt with as an accountant loves sending out invoices with all their billable hours and descriptions to justify their high costs.
How u on section 8 n still can't or won't pay ur rent
cause you’re broke. that’s how you get on section 8 in the first place 🤷🏽♀️
I knew people like that, the entitlement is crazy in the world 🤦♀️
His lawyer must've been a friend of his, told him the value of what they were doing in lawyer's service, but were smart enough not to put it to paper in written form. That might've gotten the bar to revoke their license.
The lady knows exactly how to play the system.
why when you're forced into any system, after awhile you'll find ways to try to out smart it
Canceled check is the receipt. NEVER pay rent in cash! Get a money order and have the landlord sign the tab.
hi. you dont even need to do money order.. pay your rent through your bank's online bill-pay service... this is what my tenants do... be blessed
Imagine renting a big house from section 8. Here I am working my a-- off to rent a tiny little apartment. Others getting special section 8 treatment for big houses.
People know what section 8 is. Cut it out
😂😂😂😂
Whom are you addressing?
@@cypherknot Judge Marilyn Milan
The tenant and landlord scamming the system. Once again, Section 8 providing assistance to someone who shouldn't have it. SMH
Two of her three kids (that we know about) living in this government subsidized, six bedroom house are adults. How about those two get jobs to help pay rent instead of being a drain on society?
I’m sure there are several others living in that home, all rent free or paying the defendant very little each month. I’ve seen it happen in section 8 homes in a neighborhood where I used to visit. It’s always the same: ghetto people pack in as many kids, cousins and boyfriends as they can tolerate; party all night - sleep all day; tear the house apart; barely pay rent; and then move on at the point they are evicted. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
I believe the plaintiff about the verbal agreement, that's why she went through a private landlord. Its much easier to work out deals. Why else would she not pay her rent every month but pay for oil every month. Doesn't make logical sense. She was unaware of the how much she would be dishing out every month for the oil which is why she started giving him a hard time and he wanted her out.
You've never had a bad landlord who refuses to pay necessary utilities for your house, have you? What would you do if your landlord stops, and refuses to pay, the gas, electricity, or water bill? Are you just going to go without running water? Without being able to cook? Sit in an apartment in the dark? Or are you going to pay those utilities, switch them to your name, etc?
Dang 10:30 pm posts! Okay PC I see you!
It’s 5.15AM overhere :)))
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
@@The_Real_Mier Ohhh early! Where are you?
@@thatsassyrepublican The Netherlands.
Unable to sleep… 🤬
@@The_Real_Mier Aw I’m sorry! Hope you got your rest!!!
SECTION 8...sigh....NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!!!
Blows my mind how section 8 tenants are demeaned but home owners who have federal Home loans aren’t, it’s still government money!
Funk it! I hate where I'm living! I would love a 4 bedroom house! Sign me up! 🤬🤣🤣
Makes sense
You pay back borrowed money with interest. Rent doesn’t get paid back.
Yes because section 8 recipients need to repair furnaces? Roofs? Enjoy your slanted viewpoint
How much do section 8 recipients pay in school and city property taxes per year?
so she is angry because she was expected to pay for heat?
She wasn’t required to pay for heating oil, typically the landlords pays for it and the plaintiff confirmed he was supposed to pay for it per the lease.
It was part of rent, so yea. Anyone would be angry about that.
So sick of people abusing the system. I need a shower after this case. 😆
Never gonna do anything about it so why let it bother you. Clearly it ticks off a lot of hardworking people but again nothing us people can do.
Actually the rich get over more on us than the poor ever do.
@@yung1717 Agreed!!!
@@yung1717 BUT at some point the rich got off their a-- and accomplished SOMETHING.
Why would she let a man inject her vagina at least 3 times to give her kids they both can't afford and who will most likely grow up to be thieves and murderers?
They both can't tell the truth. He says he paid the oil than he said will she agreed to pay the oil. She says she paid the rent than she had no proof. When it comes back to bite her too. I hope she remembers what she'd said to millions of JM viewers.
He either had no attorney or a very crap one.
Harvey I know you'll never read this but I will answer that question once and for all. If there were a tremendous amount of people that rented that either destroyed the places or it didn't pay rent all you capitalists would never rent another apartment you have some here that have problems but overall the system is good profits of being made by landlords and big capitalists that have enormous Apartments including slumlord Apartments. If no money was being made landlords would never go into this business
Capitalists pay their bills.
Harvey interviewing the purple haired Karen out front, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😆🤣🤣🤣😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The system all messed up
Shady deal all the way around. But I like what Milian did here by giving them both nothing.
Spoiler alert
I can’t stand these section 8 cases.
You and J Miriam are the same. You dislike the White House public housing??
It’s suppose to be a lifeline not a lifetime.
Too many think it’s a entitlement .
She is a smart scammer, knows all the in and outs of the S8 rules, then have the balls to call him a liar. Lol 😁
When they start an answer with… ‘what happens was that…’, my side eye comes giving…🤭🤣😅
I'm curious if the guy talking in the beginning, as they walk to the stand, pre-records the intro and they play it back, or is it live and he has to get it perfect every time.
That’s Kurt, the same guy in the hallway after. It’s probably pre recorded.
The planttiff is lying. I have worked with Section 8 tenants in my rentals. They are given a set dollar amount based on the number of bedrooms they are required to have per the housing authority rules. If she had 3 children the number of bedrooms would be either 2 or 3 depending on the age and sex of the children. There can be no more than 2 children in a room and boys and girls cannot share a room after the age of 7. She probably only needed a 3 bedroom house but she is correct, if the voucher she is given is for a $1,200.00 a month rental and she finds a place that has 10 bedrooms in it, she can rent it. The housing authority doesn't care if there are to many rooms, they only care if there are enough rooms. However, I would not rent a 10 or 6 bedroom house to someone who doesn't need that many bedrooms simply because they want them. The higher the original rent is, the more the tenant has to pay and if you are on Section 8, it's for a reason. In her case she obviously couldn't pay the higher rent or any rent at all. Also, homes with more than 2-3 bedrooms are hard to find. If landlords are renting their homes that have 4 or more bedrooms to people who don't really need them, they are leaving larger families without a place to live. If they have a family that requires a 4-6 bedroom home, their voucher is going to be for a lot more than someone with a 2-3 room voucher. They are able to charge more for the home because there are more people living in it. Any landlord who would rent to someone with a voucher and not know all the rules shouldn't be renting to Section 8 tenants. The planttiff is one of them landlords. If he made a verbal agreement with her outside of the agreement with the housing authority, he could be charged with fraud and removed from the eligible landlords to rent from list that the housing authority keeps. The tenant would also loose her voucher permanently. I'm surprised she didn't for not paying the rent. The housing authorities I have worked with are very strict about this. The tenant pays a very small portion of the rent. It equates to no more than 30 percent of their income plus they receive a certain set amount for utilities that they are responsible for paying. If they are responsible for all utilities they will receive a credit for an amount set by the city or county housing authority depending on which one is subsidizing their rent. It's usually around $200.00 a month. That amount is subtracted from the already reduced rent so it actually could be said that they don't pay for the utilities either. If their income is $900.00 a month, 30 percent would be $330.00, minus the deduction for utilities and they are paying $130.00 a month for what could be a $1,000.00 or more per month, home. Not a bad deal, yet some still don't pay their share. They are also restricted to a deposit no higher than the 30 percent income and if they do damage to the property or don't pay the rent that totals more than the deposit, the landlord can file a claim with the housing authority and they have a contract with the the landlord to pay for all amounts over the deposit. The tenant is supposed to loose their voucher if a claim is made but they rarely do. Nice program right? Our tax dollars hard at work. I'm not saying it isn't a good or needed program. But there are to many people who abuse it and never suffer the consequences for their actions. I like knowing that my rent for the most part is always going to be paid on time. However I don't charge more for my apartments that are rented to Section 8 tenants than I do any other tenants. I also make sure they pay their portion and also have 12 hour notice inspections on all of my apartments 2-3 times a year and pay attention to the exterior of the home. Inspections are the easiest way to protect your property and help keep it maintained. Tenants don't always call for minor problems until they become bigger problems. Inspections are legal and they are a part of my lease, they work. Unannounced interior inspections are not legal unless the tenant agrees to let you in. It may be your property, but it's their home...
RESPECT GOES BOTH WAYS.
I didn't agree with everything you said, but your last statement was on point. It's something most landlords and tenants forget nowadays.
If something doesn’t make sense it isn’t true….
It is scary to rent to people you never know if they will pay or not. And if they will destroy your property.
That's the risk of being a landlord. And to think otherwise is delusional.
What part of "Give me all the paperwork related to [fill in the blank]" is hard to understand?
It makes me sick to know how little these people pay on rent while the middle class works their ass off to survive but still struggle with no help. While these people are being handed the easy way out. I said what I said.
I agree 1000%.I can't imagine paying $400 for a 4 bed when I pay $1,085 for a STUDIO on a fixed income & have never been late paying in 7 years!!
I totally agree! Work for these idiots!
It is nauseating. The one time I needed help for just food for my 4 kids, the govt said I made $65 too much. I'm pretty bitter about it. All these years I paid into a system only to get rejected in my time of desperate need.
Exactly .. just makes no sense, section 8, food stamps, full health insurance. And other countless go benefits but why bother getting a job just keep reproducing and showing up the class on how to get a job. But dont actually get tho. Or bye bye benefits
Oh brother. Rather than kick the poorer guy you should be focusing on the rich
Lord what am i doing wrong? I would love to pay $400 a month for rent. Someone please show me the way LOL
I pay $500 for my apartment. I don't get assistance. It's the going rate where I live.....but it's like the other commenter said - Cheap rent will cost you. Section 8 controls you and takes away some freedom of privacy. And renting a cheap apartment has the problems that cheap apartments have, like the neighborhood, etc. Here's what you are doing wrong - Not living life on your own terms and being jealous of someone who is worse off than you. (Maybe not? Because having a mindset that you want to pay $400 for rent, like it's something to be jealous of?)
His tie is spot on. The knot is perfect! 🥰
Wow she doesn't pay rent and stands there so arrogant and above the law.
The way y’all hate the poor is very telling. I’ve assisted Section 8 recipients while volunteering and the way ppl also take advantage of them because they’re poor is disgusting. And btw non section 8 tenants won’t even think about renting many of these properties.
You did just say housing authority said they'll take your children. Seconds later, you changed what you just said saying you didn't say that. 🙄
Douglas is my favorite character
his 'lawyer' never told him a retainer receipt would work in court
he has no case
hes sweating 'should i tell the judge about my shonky deals'
half way through a story you can see his brain catching up to his big mouth
'oh shit, reverse reverse'
He’s a liar. The lawyer’s retainer was probably $700 and the plaintiff only paid $160. That’s why he couldn’t produce a receipt showing a $700 payment. The lawyer might have told him to bring the retainer agreement (not the receipt for the partial payment) as evidence of the outstanding debt he has to pay.
He's lying and section 8 will not agree to pay for a unit without inspecting it first. I lived in a 3 bedroom 2 bath for 16 and a half years because my landlord agreed to accept my two bedroom voucher. And section 8 agreed to my lease for the amount they agreed to pay for after they inspected my unit first. Let's be clear it's a contract between the landlord, tenant and section 8. They don't just pay out funds without seeing what they're paying for.
I am team plaintiff. She had a 4 bedroom house deal and he turned it into a 6 bedroom house deal if she paid the oil. Then she probably realised how much the oil cost and stopped paying rent. He wasn't even asking for the missed rent, only the lawyers fees. She was the scammer. He was OK.
You can tell Judge Millian owns a lot of property and is a landlord herself. Not only has she said it multiple times, but you can just see how angry she gets over bad tenants.
Or she could just now the tenant/landlord laws🤷🏼♂️
Her or her family are contractors
Can you imagine what a fair landlord JM would be, you would never have to worry about getting screwed on the security deposit being returned to you.
Happy Saturday! Hope you all have a great weekend. Love you sis. 😍
I work in housing and this happens all the time. I absolutely believe the LL made this deal with her. It’s helps the tenants out the LL always end up losing out because it’s a word of mouth agreement.
Watch his face when she asks if he has proof of payment to his lawyer 3:55 😫😆such a liar
If a defendant files a countersuit, do they incur court fees?
Can someone explain the "oil" to me?! And this whole case, I'm beyond confused....
I would love to pay $400 for a 6 bedroom home 😮
I would be happy paying $400 for a two bedroom!
No you wouldnt. Not a section 8 home. Section 8 standards have fallen way down. The houses now barely pass inspection. But i get what you're trying to say.
I just want him to fix his dang tie....
😂
The judge obviously has a discriminatory attitude for section 8 tenants. How disgusting for the Judge to talk to the defendant in such a nasty tone. She didn't speak to the plaintiff in that tone, despitehim not havingany proof for the case he brought. Shame
Amen
Right I totally agree with you 💯👏🏾she definitely does have a bad attitude towards section 8 low income cases just like judge Judy always talks down on stay at home mom's gladly they aren't real judges they are just TV judges
@@clarissalowery9629 she was an actual judge tho. Just retired and did this
@@DarcyMiyamoto but she's not now
Why wouldn't she? This skeezoid is a shuck and jive artist, she doesn't deserve any respect, she deserves an empty box behind a Dollartree.
Come to court with no evidence. What is wrong with these people
J. Millian, really? "You don't like to pay rent?.... the little bit of rent that you have to pay?" The statements and tone are so unnecessary. It's times like these that her bias really shows
The judge was telling the truth. She only pays $400.00 a month for a 6 bedroom house. I wish I knew what makes these people so entitled.
Some shady stuff going on here.
So basically there was a side deal between landlord and tenant and thats why the landlord is hesitant to answer questions.
Kurt looked like he was gonna bust up laughing in the hallway at the very end...and he Never breaks character. He can be quite the sass-box asking the plaintiffs & defendants their opinions on their wins or losses, but omg do I just love him. And his descriptions of the cases at the beginning always crack me up. I read someplace that he covers or announces baseball games or some kind of sport in NY. I wonder if he still does that? 🤔...if so, it would be cool as hell to listen to his color commentary. He strikes me as a very intelligent man. And I'll bet he's funny af 🤣 as well as being bright. Kurt's badass. 😂
I've been a tenant for 12 years.😂my landlord has scribbled my receipt on a note pad a many of times. And if he don't write one I go get a money order and slice it in half and keep my portion
Dayum, he got a dome 🧠. Too bad it seems empty
😂💀
Lestere Holt...Next Generation 😂
I bet he smarter than you tho
being a landlord in NY, NJ and CA, is hell. and section 8 tenants are hell.
Being a landlord anywhere is hell, but that's part of the job. Unfortunately, nowadays, too many landlords act like it shouldn't be. The biggest problem between landlords and tenants is the way they communicate. Too many landlords treat tenants as if they are bad ppl from the moment they move in. It kinda creates a self fulfilling prophecy with tenanties ending badly.
The plaintiff looks confused and unsure of himself when speaking
Is it a common theme that Section 8 tenants tear up the houses and/or apartments that they live in and don't pay the part of the rent NOT subsidized?
Sadly some are like this. I am a sec 8 tenant with two babies. We treat out home with respect. I’m grateful to have a roof over out heads. U are not wrong on ur observation.
In my personal experience, yes absolutely a common theme. Growing up I lived across the street from a section 8 household (only one in the neighborhood) and it stuck out like a sore thumb. The yard was overgrown and unkept with trash, toys, and random junk littered across the property. The inside reeked and walls stained with cigarette smoke among many other mystery stains on walls, floors, and appliances. Also holes in several walls, cigarette burns in caprets, broken trash bag taped window. They somehow couldn't come up with rent on their own so they rented out the unfinished basement by sectioning off "rooms" by hanging up sheets. Oh and some of their kids had those "sheet rooms" next to adult males addicts. 3 men died there from an overdose. But the absolute worst part was when the mothers children were coming up to adult age and she was going to lose her section 8 or at least the amount of section 8 see was receiving (not sure which one)... she started having her teenage daughters get pregnant with the adult male roommates to keep the section 8 going. I was friends with one of the kids growing up and it was a literal hell on earth. My mom used to send food home with the little girl because she was always hungry and never had enough and the older guys would steal it from her and eat it all. My mom gave her our old TV for Christmas to put in her to have an escape and have something nice for once from Santa and the mother took it and put it in her own room.
This is only ONE example of what I've seen, I've seen plenty more. Obviously that was more of the extreme side but the rest were not much better.
@@sashabenoit1518 It just goes to show what they say, The Government by paying these people to be worthless keeps them worthless. Welfare has destroyed the black family
@@markbrandon7359 I agree government support has A LOT of issues and helps the wrong people a lot of the time but the people I'm talking about are white. Every section 8 family I've seen are white, not that it matters
Of course there are really bad tenants out there, both in general and Section 8.
Those are the situations (sometimes Court cases) that attract the most attention, for obvious reasons (just read some of the examples given here in the comments section of this video).
BUT I believe that the majority of tenants , including Section 8 tenants, do NOT mess up the place they live in.
And definitely NOT to the extreme that are visible in for example these Court cases.
These are just normal people, doing their normal thing, living their normal lives.
And that is exactly why this group is NOT seen; they don’t end up in Court or in the exiting stories that neighbors or family members share with each other.
That’s why it may SEEM that they ‘all make a mess’: the other ones are simply too boring to be telling anyone about….
Didn't she still owe rent? Over $900?
No, you don't owe anything that is not in the settlement.
The plaintiff had a settlement prior to bringing this to court to not seek owed rent if the defendant moved. The defendant moved, thus fulfilling the agreement and so the plaintiff can't resurrect a lawsuit after concluding the settlement.
The plantiff seems slow as hell
Judge Judy wouldn't have allowed ALL that hearsay! She should also not have allowed it!!!!
The peoples court I love that intro I’m going to make me a rap song right now. 😂😂😂
I'm pretty sure both litigants were scamming the Section 8 program, but the Plaintiff looked the bigger fool, in my opinion, due to his lack of evidence that... wouldn't have helped his case anyway.
I wish when there’s suspicion of illegal activity they didn’t get anything from the show
I agree.
I’m betting she heard this case at the end of a very long day. She was (justifiably) annoyed with both of them.
$160 sounds about right for legal fees on a simple eviction case.
I wonder if the judge called section 8 about the fraud
300 dollars a month?!? How embarrassing.
I love Douglas! He so cool! :)
I lived in section 8 housing growing up in California, they do an inspection before you move in and then one every year. You are allowed an amount of bedrooms based on the family size. However the landlord can say “den” or “office” so that then it’s a 4 bedroom house with a den and office.
You are right the inspection by the housing authority is completed prior to moving in. However, the number of bedrooms allowed is dependent upon the respective housing authority's occupancy guidelines.
@@aliyabloodworth5923but a den or office is still a den or office. Even if they saying could be used as a bedroom, it still counts as a den rather than a bedroom.
someone should bring in toilet paper and a crayon and see how well the judge can write on it , I can’t think of anything harder, what a ridiculous analogy.
And if you do she probably won't accept it
Correct, because only the simple minded take it literally.
Someone actually did and she was surprised
His attorney sounds like ineffective counsel.
If the lease says landlord pays for oil, they can't jsut make an oral agreement, it has to be modified in the lease.
This lady is a little off
A HOT MESS. THEY ARE SUCH SCAMMERS AND MY TAXES ARE PAYING FOR THESE ANIMALS TO LIVE