BORDEAUX - WINE IN 10
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- Today I am going to talk about a region that is today a bit controversial, even though it is one of the wine world classics. It is the region that has become the blueprint for High-End wine production and marketing. Often imitated but never duplicated: Bordeaux! Even though the region is so well known today it is not actually one of the oldest wine-growing regions. The poet Ausonius was one of the first to write about wine production in 310 - 393 AD. The well known Chateau Ausone was also named after him. The vineyard that is today part of Chateau Pape Clement was the first vineyard to appear in the literature
Interestingly it was presented to Bertrand de Goth when he was appointed Archbishop of Bordeaux by his brother Bertrand.
Bertrand, later on, was named Pope in 1306 and his papal name was Clement V - the pope that moved the papacy to Avignon and therewith inspired the invention of the name Chateauneuf du Pape … as well as the name of Chateau Pape Clement of course.
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In the 80s I used to drink Pomerols a lot. Petrus was awesome. That was when a bottle went for circa $100USD. I can't afford a bottle anymore thanks to people hoarding them for prestige purposes. A wine that isn't drunk is a sad wine. I like to make wines very happy.
Great point - lets make wine happy!
Didn't know that fresh bottled wines can be _that_ expensive. 😃 It has a perfect rating at Parker + Suckling - so I guess this wine should be above average.
@@honigschlecker1 There are wines today that go for 500-1000$ easily when they come out these days, from Italy, Napa Valley, Australia, basically from everywhere.
@@MB-xj8le all that money printing, huge inflation in luxury goods!
$100 on the 80s is the equivalent to $500 today. So not that much cheaper. 😳. But I agree that you need to drink the wine.
Dear Konstantin, I am working as a Sommelier for a restaurant with an impressive european list in Australia and your videos help me tremendously. Thank you for a concrete and direct approach to wine that is not always easy to find. Merci beaucoup
Excellent, Konstantin. I love the casual use of an empty bottle of Petrus 1997, filled with, I guess, non-Petrus wine. ;-)
You are right!
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He had me wondering for a few seconds 🤣 Too casual indeed to be pouring Petrus
My favourite - and not overly expensive - Bordeaux wines are La Vieille Cure (Fronsac) and Chateau d'Aiguilhe (Côtes de Castillon).
Both produce excellent wines but are relatively affordable.
From the left bank I find to Grand Crus to be to expensive but there are worthwhile alternatives - such as Chateau Potensac - in my opinion one of the few that still produces long lasting wines with great acidity and tannins, very well structured but not for the faint hearted.
Favorite wine from Bordeaux, it's a very difficult choice... a real torture in fact... each of the Yquem I had the chance to taste made me travel to another universe, it literally changed my life... and in the world of clarets, despite having tasted maybe at most 4-5 vintages from most of the big Châteaux (definitely not all of them to be honest, i.e. we never tasted any Petrus), Mouton and Haut-Brion are probably the only two I had tears on my cheeks while having a glass or two. Mouton 2000 and 2005 are really an absolutely magical experience, while older Haut-Brion like 85 and 89 embody for me the purest expression of what red wine should be... 5 years ago I had an 89 with my wife at the best steak house in our city while eating Japanese Wagyu A5, this was so incredible it's almost as if I could still taste it to this day, it definitely left a mark in our souls, enough in fact that it will be for sure one of the last things I will remember before I die.
I'm living in the Graves region at 5km from Sauternes and thank you for this video, it's so important for us and our terroir !
Thank you konstantin 😊 Sauternes bring back great memories from the 1960s with my girlfriend now wife and we still enjoy them.
6:41 If only MoW Peter Koff saw this, im pretty sure he'd be a little bit jealous and most importantly drooling for some of that pétrus! haha. That being said you guys have my utomst respect, and as a starting wine enthusiast I really look up to both of you guys. Cheers!
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Chateau Palmer is my fave! Had a 1929 Yquem which was a real treat!
It is difficult to say which has been my favourite. More recently I have tasted and really enjoyed Montrose 00 and Vieux Château Certan 82 (en magnum). My new years' resolution will be to write more wine tasting notes for future reference!
Good information densely packed in a short video.. Thanks Konstantin
Glad it was helpful!
Great videos! While I can still enjoy wines from this region, I do understand the "hate" - especially for the large houses and considering the mass production, widespread use of chemicals etc. Plenty of top artisanal producers from Jura and other great regions selling their wines way below "market" value and working out agreements with distributors to ensure they remain accessible to those who will consume the juice rather than speculate on it. Shout-out to Le Puy and other small guys from the region doing good work!
Wow. Very knowledgeable
The best experiences I've had have been of Sauternes, which I recently started studying and buying. Many years ago, I tried some reds and liked them, especially Pauillac and Margaux. I want to start exploring them again, given that for me the ideal wine is a big, dry red. However, it's a little intimidating as people who have experience talk about Bordeaux "shutting down" for years. It seems difficult for one to have good Bordeaux experiences right off the shelf.
This video's extremely helpful and accurate. I'm the maitre de chai at a Grand Cru classé in Pessac Léognan, and I can say one thing. The classification system may have put some châteaux out of reach price-wise, it means that there are many unclassified châteaux that are making excellent value wines. Bordeaux has also started producing some very interesting VdF wines with varieties like Chardonnay and Touriga Nacional. Great video!
Thank you!
What would you recommend for around €25?
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@@giuseppeciabatti1183 I think Ch Poujeaux 2016 would sit around that price point (still a bit young). It's one of the top 3 Moulis-en-Médoc wines. The soils are mainly gravel, which is a feature of the best vineyards in the Médoc for Cabernet Sauvignon. Moreover, in 2008 the estate was bought by the Cuvelier family, who own Clos Fourtet (a Premier Grand Cru Classé in St Emilion). They brought in their winemaker Stéphane Derenoncourt and the quality of the wines has gone up a lot. I have recently had the 2010 vintage and it is superb value. This is what I had to say about it: "Intense bouquet showing lavender laced with cassis; creamy black cherry yoghurt lifted with fresh mint; and contrasted with ash, nutmeg and dry crushed rocks. On the palate this is a joy, with lovely concentration and texturally edgy with ripe, chalky tannins. Drink over next 2-3 years?"
@@alexleblay3920 thanks for the tip. I'll see if I can source it in the UK!
I personally love the second wines of 2eme-5eme crus, most of them are still afordable and you are able to get a piece of this unique experience. My favorites are Echo from Lynch-Bages or a Les Fiefs de Lagrange, even though the first wine is affordable as well. Great Video!!
Haven't tried Fiefs de Lagrange yet (I have a 2018 in my cellar), but I strongly recommend Dame de Montrose and Marquis de Calon Ségur if you like nice second wines.
For Right Bank, Beau Sejour-Becot is a hands down favorite. It constantly delivers on those famed St. Emilion silky, rose petal notes, and it can usually be had for $50-$100, depending on the vintage. For Left Bank, I'm a big fan of the last decade of Chateau Marquis d’Alesme. It is incredibly high quality without much hype, so the price is right. Margaux is also the one LB appellation I think is fine to drink youngish. I always regret opening a fine Pauillac or St. Julien under 25 years. Those just need so much time.
Missed your videos so great to see you back!
Your question is really difficult to answer. Already tried some of the great Bordeaux wine (Chateau Margaux, Chateau Mouton-Rothschild (twice), Chateau La Misson Haut Brion) and I have to say none of it really impressed me. In contrast to this there were many less famous wines from that reagion I really loved like Chateau d'Issan, Chateau Marquis de Terme and some others aswell. Maybe I just expected to much from "the big ones" because they were so expensive.
Anyway to leave aside the "red theatre" I choose Chateau Guiraud as my favourite one because I was never disappointed by a wine of this Chateau and I also haven't had a Sauternes which I didn't like at all, so far.
Thanks Alex! Yes, the Sauternes surely have the best price quality ratio - and Guiraud is excellent!
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Nicely done in a nutshell! Thank you!
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@@thewinearchive With unequivocal pleasure! Just dying to lisyen to my favourite video on wine.
@@januszstopa3383 At the moment we have Lagrange, Gruaud Larose, Pichon Baron and Cantenac Brown tasting
@@thewinearchive Thank you for the info.
Thanks for good video's.
My my favorite is Leoville las case and their No. 2 Petit las cas which in good years as in 2016 is good value for money. fun then think they are located just a few meters from Latour that is super expansive
Thanks for this great video. I think there are plenty of reasonably priced yet amazing wines from the right bank in Bordeaux. My favorites are Grand Pontet and Fontenil. If anything, Napa wines are more pricy and difficult to find in the market, at least in Japan.
Yes, I agree. There are some good values coming out of BDX but the best wines are not affordable anymore for most people. The same is true for the top wines from Napa and you are right, they are often worse distributed.
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I am very partial to Chateau Lynch-Bages Grand Cru Classe from Pauillac, always consistent always enjoyable.
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Love the great value of Leoville Barton. Cheers 🥂
As an American wine lover in Utah….. long love bordeaux!!! Chateau tour d’auron is a go to for me. So good with French cheese or a New York strip
Thank you
A little late on this podcast, but for what it's worth, my favorite Bordeaux has to be Château Fleur Cardinale, Saint-Émilion, Grand Cru Classé for it QPR!
Super good explanations! Graud Larose Sarget is a good one 👌affordable. Around 50 USD IN Norway
Love the picture, swigging Petrus from the bottle. If I had to die disgracefully I hope it would be like that. The absolute best wines I have ever tried were all Bordeaux. Before it became fashionable and ridiculously expensive (about 30 years ago) I managed to try some Chateau Margaux, Lafite, Haut Brion, Mouton Rothschild, Latour and many others. Now they have become stupidly expensive and coveted by people who use them for bragging rights and never drink them. It's a silly world we live in. Too many absurdly rich people with no class and far too many people with barely any money at all :(
I agree 😊
I like this series, they're pretty good. You should make a tasting video of Pertrus, given that is a very unaccessible wine would be great to know how it tastes!
Thank you! Yes, you send the Petrus and I make the video! ;)
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine hahaha... I'll send some wine from Mexico instead ;)
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Konstantin please make more videos like this
The closed captioning seems messed up. It has nothing to do with the video. I am partial to the red wines of Graves, which are often overlooked and sometimes offer great value.
Some of the best cheapies come from the right bank of Bordeaux. $15 Bordeaux’s can be much more elegant and nuanced than Napa wines at twice the price. Long live Bordeaux! -Chris
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I second that, I have had numerous great experiences with 12-17 EUR Saint-Emillion Grand Cru that really gave a good showing for their price range!
So far the absolute best wine I've ever had was a Bordeaux, a 2006 Clinet Pomerol. I scored a it at a local wine shop miss mstked for $40 usd!
That sounds cheap. I love the wines from Clinet ... Maybe I will open one for a video.
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Hi Konstantin, Just started my wine journey and trying to work my way through the WSET courses when not postponed due to covid.. just wanted to let you know channels like yours are very informative. I was wondering as I too live in Europe (originally from AUS) what would be a bottle of Bordeaux that you would recommend for a semi entry-level price point of under 50 euros?
Regards, Sean
My parents live just North of St Emilion. Every time I go over bring back 6 bottles from the wine cave. Have been doing for a few years now. the pile of boxes in the corner of my room, out of direct sunlight and with a little temperature gauge on them to monitor temperature. Not perfect, I know but as good as I can get. Holding them for a few years to see what happens. I bought a case of 6 of my mums favourite wine (Chateaux Belair 2010) for €40 a bottle a few years back and gave her 1 for Xmas and 1 for her birthday each year. In March this year I went into the wine cave in France that I use and they had the bottle there for €230. I nearly cried.
Hi Konstantin, my partner and I will be visiting La Rioja and Bordeaux this September/October. Not sure if this is the place to ask but are there any unique full bodied reds you would recommend seeking out? Anything from 40-100 euro/bottle to bring home?
I've heard Chateau Talbot is a priceworthy bottle in the price range you described. Never tried it though.
Longtime favorite of the crus classés - Château Lynch-Bages; always on hand: Ch Batailley; current good value: Ch Marchand - Montagne St Émilion
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My favourite so far has been a Margaux that I buy in Tesco for around £30 😊
2009 Chateau Grand Puy Lacoste
If you had the choice of 2005 or 2009 Chateau Haut Brion- which would you choose?
Chateau de Chantegrive, from AOC Graves, 2016. Great balance and complexity. Worth the money (around 25€).
Pontet Canet my favorite by far
Refuse to pay exorbitant prices for Bordeaux as you can get some really well-made Bordeaux wines in the $20-$40 range. In fact, it’s very rare that you’ll find a bad Bordeaux.
Left bank: Léoville Las Cases and Cos d'Estournel, before they became too expensive. Right bank: Lafleur and Trotanoy, also too expensive now. Dry white: amazing Haut Brion, tasted at the chateau. Sweet: Yquem, of course, but also Suduiraut and Climens.
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I had them all, at the time when I could afford the 1er and the 2eme crus. My favorite was Lafite, no doubt about it. Latour was the one that never disappointed, even in mediocre years. Mouton almost always disappointed me. I loved Pape Clement, Ducru Beaucaillou and Pichon Lalande, but also Montrose and Cos d'Estournel. Today I don't know what to buy - I need advice!
Try Pontet-Canet.
Chug that Petrus! The first Bordeaux I ever bought was a 1970 Cantenac Brown in 1972, along with a 1970 Coutet-Barsac, just from reading.
Where they good?
With my limited experience, I was only 25, their complexity was indescribable. I had been doing alot of reading and said to myself, "so this is what they're (authors) talking about". Especially shocking was the Coutet. How could such a thing exist? Actually, my art history instructor dropped by before this with 2 bottles of Lafite. She was something. I think that kick started my curiosity. I mean about wine.
82 las cases. then, maybe '05 palmer. though i have a '96 latour lined up for christmas which might change things...
Like Château Fonroque very much.
Chateau Lagrange st Julien is my favorite. Best price quality in Bordeaux
I've never sipped from the bottle before. lol. I would do a pinot grigio. But, not a red wine because I would have to use my decanter and its so much sharper. Edge-wise. lol.
Pls make a short video about Liber Pater. What the heck is going on there and is it pure hype? :)
Favourite Bordeaux at the moment is Ormiale Merlotinox :) modest compared to your Petrus but still nice
I need to try that wine!
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine I have to admit that I haven’t had a chance to try any of the big names - the first growths etc but for under £100 I like the ormiale :)
One day you will. And you will realize, that they are not necessarily twice as good as the wines half their price.
Castillon and Blaye represent great Bdx value
You didn't taste Bordeaux! Since my last comment I have collected several Pomerol including Clinet [and Angelus] but my favourite is always Castillon - also Montrose, Palmer, Gay .. yes I would love to travel this part of France
my favourite wine from bordeaux is Chateau figeac 2011 from Saint Emilion.
I'm going to drink a 2013 Château Pouget (4er Grand Cru Margaux). Even though it's quite a "bad" vintage I'm still curious about how the wine will taste. 🍷
So, how did it taste ?
@@pala7233 I'm not that good at describing a wine objectively as sensations are extremely subjective.
For my experience it was a nice wine that offered a slightly reserved fruit character and hints of herbs and leather. It needed some time to open up.
To be honest, I had wines from the Médoc that fitted my taste a bit more. But it was a nice experience.
I often will enjoy a pomerol or st emillion from RB with 6 plus years age..these are also8n my budget scale
Favourite bordeau wine... erm... Probably my favourite at a tasting was Rausan Sagla 1989, then at my brothers 50th Mouton Rothschild 82 but the 82 chateau L'Evangile from Pomerol was even better 👌👌
Favourite Bordeaux? Well, Château Corbin of course.
Makes sense ;)
Chateau Lafite (from what I have tasted)
its fun cuz he lives in a wine cellar in a sweatshirt in the winter but thats totally ok cuz chilled wines so good. lol
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Petrvs unleashed!
In 1974, at the ripe old age of twenty I bought my first case of wine, 1970 Ch. Lafite Rothschild at $17 / bottle. That never happened again... (lol)!
References how shitty 1997 in Bordeaux was...........then causally pours a '97 Petrus...lol
Pontet Canet, last time i tried also Chateau Le Puy from Cotes de Franc, was delicious
Two great producers! One of my top wine experiences was the 1959 Pontet Canet straight from the cellar of the Chateau
I almost won a 1970s chateau Larose which is not a cru classe but at least it would have been an affordable way to taste an older vintage. My two favorite are the 2015 Château Haura from Graves and the 2015 Château Greysac from Medoc.
Where did you almost win it?
Have always thought white bordeaux was good value versatile wine
Some are good value but there are also some very expensive ones
Chateau bel air
Why is it controversial? Why are people hating on Bordeaux?
Sind Sie Deutsch? Trying to place your accent.
Ja!
Sehr gut.
that writing on that paper sound was worse than a cheap beaujolais
Yeah people do not seem to like it
Bordeaux is just not my sytle of wine, i prefer Pinot, Nebbiolo or Sangiovese much more
what is he on about? Let me dump a bunch of nonsense and I somehow will seem intelligent.
I imagine this is probably what you said in math class or anything else that takes an attention span longer than a goldfish’s and a triple digit IQ to understand or follow
So Bordeaux is basically a region where they cut off their competition from making a living wage .. that's pretty lame and pathetic in my opinion.
Hey Konstantin,
Great video, like always! You are freaking good in speeding up, when time’s running low🤌
Did you try some Bordeaux-wines in Médoc or Haut Médoc from from “little” vineyards like Clos Manou, Carmenere or Retout?
What do you think about there development as they are much cheaper than vineyards form Pomerol or Saint Emilion?