One Marvelous Scene - Hulk's Fall From Grace
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Hulk used to be one of my favorite Avengers, now not so much. His transformation back to Bruce Banner in Thor: Ragnarok perfectly encapsulates everything great the Hulk once stood for. Here's why Hulk isn't as good as he used to be.
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Bruce Banner is just your average everyday man.. with 7 PHD's...
That has a giant green creature in him, has made friends with a valkyrie, flown a pleasure vessel used for an alien's birthday orgies through the Devil's Anus, and has successfully flirted with a hot agent while evading complete humiliation. You know, just everyday normal person stuff.
Now antman on the other hand
Which is treated merely as a character fact, rather than a personality feature, aside from maybe two or three scenes, one of which is included in a film that came out after this video.
*Junkzillabox* Just like Hello Nurse.
Marvel Disney hates hulk
Something everyone seems to forget is that time isn't normal on Sakaar. Hulk was there for decades if not centuries. Loki had a ten second head start that translated to two weeks.
Jim F I’ve been saying this as well. He hadn’t been the Hulk for two years . . . it would have been much longer.
Which explains how Hulk would’ve evolved that much intelligently. He goes from saying “Puny God” to having his hair cut, wearing beads, knowing what a towel is, relaxing in a whirl pool, and having an honest sense of his own strength and able to draw comparisons between fire and water. He knows his strength is fighting “Giant Monsters” and is self aware enough to protest when Thor calls him back. That kind of growth and self awareness would have taken DECADES and it all started in the Jet. I wish that was more touched upon in the film, because I missed it the first time.
Loki was there for an additional two weeks because of the difference in the amount of time in the Bifrost.
The Grandmaster says time works weird there. On any other planet he’d be millions of years old, but on Sakar . . . glances back and forth all Goldbloomy
You are mistaken. The reason Loki was on there longer then Thor is because he was kicked out of the Bifrost which is basically bending Space-Time. Hulk got there the normal way therefore it was only 2 years.
Take a shot everytime he plays the Ragnarok detransformation.
Om dunk. Thid ia jyst a fprm od comnunivatipn tgat letd me comnunivate witg you
Only Sovietwomble fans understand
That's dangerous
@@notarobot5815 oh no. Y.. you did it. Oh gosh
You'd be dead within five minutes
D E A T H
I thought that Bruce Banners arc in Infinity war was pretty self explanatory. He needed to stop relying on the hulk to be an avenger, and the hulk was sick of being a tool to get the crap beaten out of.
Yeah, the art spoke for itself. Gubz is pretty far from the mark on that statement. Honestly, I was not a fan of this edition of the One Marvelous Scene series.
I like the idea that Endgame just emphasises Banner's control over hulk and it's scary what might happen if the hulk comes back.
I thought Hulk was scared of Thanos because he got his butt kicked
If I’m being honest I missed it completely and just thought hulk had ptsd
And this is apparent or even "self explanatory" by what cues? Some dialogue that I can't remember?
Gubz: Give us a deeper more complex Hulk
Marvel: Professor Hulk D A B S
Tutto sempai 😂😂😂
He P R O T E C C
He A T T A C C
But most importantly
He gives you a taco B A C C
@Israel out of Palestine that's one way to put it, I guess.
@@hfhxgdytfyguyghfyfhrbt6gxc749 I'm guessing he's crying because they didn't give him the Luke Skywalker he deserved. 😐
@@modemmack probably.
There was a comic arc for hulk called stay angry.
In which banner was depicted as menacing and evil to the hulk. Hulk would do his best to stay angry because he knew banner would do something messed up and dangerous to the hulk. Was one of my favourite arcs. Just wish it lasted longer. Thats what they should do next.
John Toye got a link to that comic
@@lesmay4450 did you read it. More than a year old now but was still a great twist on the story.
@@johntoye6602 he was asking if you had a link
@@Z3R0Steam i dont know where to find them online.
I got only a premise here
marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Incredible_Hulk_Vol_3_8
>MCU Video
>Opens video with Halo Main Theme.
Is a great theme why wouldn't you use it for an opening
There is no Hulk in Endgame, its only Baner with green tan on steroid
that's the hulk's power, not a green tan and steroids
That was the joke
@@fitzhugh7463 r/wooooooooosh
its sad that they killed him off screen
No, only Shrek.
Wish they did hulk a bit more justice in Endgame...
He had a damaged arm in endgame,how do you think he could fight thanos ?
I wouldn't expect him to win a fight against Thanos at that state. Maybe they could've tried to fuel hulks rage with the death of black widow could've helped him fight Thanos.@zetreh
@@Zetreh Hulk is supposed to have a healing factor that puts woverine to shame
@@kiensane2670 Hulk is gone. There's only Banner in endgame, but in Hulk's form. That's one thing I'm sad about the movie, among other things.
@@alamrasyidi4097 Don't be too Sad. Professor Hulk worked that way in the comics, too. People didn't like him very much; he went away. And eventually ended up in not only World Breaker Hulk, but the latest version which is Immortal Hulk - which is an absolutely tremendous comic. For those who are hurting for a badass Hulk again since Disney is trying to bury him in the MCU, read Immortal Hulk. It's like the plot points are DIRECTLY giving the MCU Hulk issues the bird.
Dude you've been playing that transformation in the quinjet scene nearly for 65% of the video lol🤣😂
I agree, not the best video in terms of visual. Not a big fan of the music choice either, besides Halo. But then again I fundamentally disagree with this guy on this subject. I've always found "old Hulk" to be immensely boring. He shows up and punches some things in a big action scene that's all show and no tell.
Thor: Ragnarok is my favourite MCU movie for a lot of reasons but also because Hulk is actually interesting in it. The problem with Hulk in the MCU, like he says, is that they hint at an arc and then never give him one. I like Ragnarok because I don't really care about Hulk but I like Banner, and he had space in Ragnarok because there weren't 5 other main protagonists about that needed attention too.
@@trouts4 I also don't understand why taking the stance that turning Hulk into a "baby" for one film is somehow this massive disservice to the character. The long track of Hulk over the MCU is playing out and his time on Sakaar was one step in that journey. Hulk was becoming selfish, Bruce even says that it felt entirely different from how it did before and I'd imagine before Hulk had to grapple with not having an identity aside from "the monster". It's a core part of his character in Ragnarok, that no one loves him on Earth but here he's a lauded, spoiled child. Maybe they poke more fun at him than they should, but I can't imagine Ruffalo would be THAT interested in playing Hulk the exact same way he has for Avengers 1, 2, and now Ragnarok. I feel like the underlying argument to the entire video is "they changed him" which is fundamentally the opposite of what I want from the MCU films. I want to see the characters in a different light, not just have Ruffalo show up and have a director say, "Okay do what you did in those other movies." That's just boring. Jokes have always been framed around the Hulk in the MCU films, god forbid they make them in a film with a more comedic tone that people generally enjoyed. I've watched all the other Marvelous Scene entries on the playlist and this is the only one I disagree with, not in terms of the scene, but because of his interpretation of the character around the scene.
And yeah Gubz, my dude, you gotta equalize your music a bit more. It's so loud in the beginning and just after the 7 minute mark. It is overpowering.
"One Marvelous scene" is the title of the video....
He was in Love with that scene
@@mischief7781 "replaying the scene the entire video" isn't the title of the video. He could have shown other hulk moments, instead of just this scene that gets annoying
5:06 you called it for EndGame lol
Yay . . .
As depicted in the MCU: he's about the power level of Ben Grimm/the thing. The "world breaker" hulk and next-level rage strength never appeared. I was very disappointed with how de-powered he was.
I thought they were going to at least do the traditional shut Banner off of 10 minutes so I can go wild bit but they didn't even pull that out
base hulk is definitely STRONGER than the thing. the thing is about even (if not weaker) than she-hulk
Daniel Ellis not always. The thing has varied from original 5 ton to over 100 ton class. 75 to 85 ton being common. Hulk has been listed as 60 ton class when not enraged.
@@scottlowell493Actually Hulks base strength at lowest is 90 as Grey Hulk, while he should be 100+ even in a clam state as the savage Hulk and the thing should also be class 100 since his been shown lifting buildings weighing over 30 thousand tons which isn't even the Things best feat, and still Hulk is always been shown to be stronger even when Things strength was doubled Hulk was still stronger
I understand not bring in the world breaker hulk cus that would make him way to op and no bad guy could really ever stop him but I wish they would make him stronger to truly show he is the strongest I personal hope that hulk becomes a Gillian and everybody has to stop him but marvel probably ain’t gonna do that
One of my favorite scenes was from Spider-Man Homecoming when Spider-Man was stuck in the building when the vulture left him...
When the building came down on him...
Great comic scene as well. Caused the same internal conflict.
Yep
My favorite scene is the ending of the movie
yeah that was great
@@Kris-wo4pj if this be my destiny
I personally don’t think you should blame Director’s for talking about a character arc in an interview when they were asked about it.
Bobby Pendragon but that’s the problem. You arnt meant to question what’s happening in the movie when the movie itself should answer it anyways. Keep in mind it okay to question things outside of the movie if you know what I’m trying to say. (I’m not saying you’re not allowed I’m say the audience isn’t meant to)
@@pablowusgood7724 Personally, what they said in that interview clip was nothing new to me, I thought what they were saying was fairly obvious.
@@pablowusgood7724 but the movie itself does answer the question; maybe not every person got it (wich is a risk you take unless you want to go full exposition mode) but personally nothing that Joe said was news for me and I assume for tons of people as well. Interviews do painfully obvious questions like this all the time with sci-fi, fantasy and superhero movies.
Bobby Pendragon Same. I interpreted more or less how they described it. Some people were just interpreting it in very different ways that they didn’t like and forced the directors to explain
I know of another badass green guy who has layers
*his name’s S H R E K*
Touche sir touche
Funny, Shrek was in Endgame ...
If you stayed for the end credits, Shrek actually showed up and is now confirmed to be the newest Avenger.
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@@impostor4894 I thought that was professor hulk but with glasses
u played that scene of Hulk losing his mind a lil too much imo
Tu he really did lool
cedenoa001 exactly, he spent 5 minutes repeating the same thing
Lol yeah
"this scene is really hard to look at"....plays it 10 times without the actual ending of the scene
Overdone and annoying.
*OG Halo Theme Plays*
Narrator: "THE HULK"
"NOOOOOOOOOOO BANNER!!!!!!". love that scene.
One day this legend will come back.
I miss.....
Him.
You got a like for calling the Hulk a jobber.
The opposite here, among other issues I had with the video, Hulk was Worfed ONCE. by THANOS. And Gubz made it sound like the guy has been Worfed as often as...Worf.
@@Nougatbars, What does "worfed" mean, exactly?
@@JKissoon1 when a new character (can be Villain or Hero) is introduced and beats up a character the audience already knows is tough, to show how this new guy is _really_ tough. The established tough guy character who gets beat up has been "worfed".
You can search "The Worth Effect" on TVtropes.org for more detail and examples
@@Nougatbars he gets smashed by the hulk buster then thor then thanos and you are saying he isn't a jobber?
Don't worry guys, Endgame will reveal that Hulk just had the flu.
he prottecc,
he attack,
but most importantly
get badass hulk back
Gauntlet turns his arm blacc
@@Make_A_ChangeKYSelf and doesn't fight in the end
@Israel out of Palestine Or Immortal Hulk.
@@AownAli-xi8jq he's mashed a taxi...
But most importantly, he gave ant man his taco bacc 😂
You were actually right on professor hulk congrats
Everybody knew that
That is the one thing I hated about endgame. Banner literally did nothing in the final battle.
@@detachedmars158 how was he meant 2
@@detachedmars158 his arm was fucked
@@lewisgeach9321 yeah because the movie purposely did that so he couldn't fight it's called plot
Why are 9 of the best creators making a video with the same title
Other 8?
Found them all
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Spider-Cop I was gonna make a joke about the 9 realms/ 9 content creators but that’s actually the creepiest coincidence 👀
Spider-Cop For me it was Gubz and Just Write. Felt like a coincidence until he mentioned it in the end
Spider-Cop BRO WTF
Ngl I loved the Hulk in Ragnorock I like the fact he has much more intelligence and that hes actually hilarious by giving and taking banter
I miss the old hulk, These last phew movies have been doing him dirty.
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As soon as I started it, like within 2 seconds I thought
... Is that Halo?
Me too haha.
Lol, I thought the exact same thing
Don't forget that Castle Crashers music at 7:12
Spidey I find lots of TH-camrs using Halo tracks recently.
Truly a man of culture.
Both gubz and captain midnight uploads hulk video at the same time
What a coincidence
I think not
I thought that before I saw the end of this video
No, a lot of you tubers like Gubz, Nando V movies, Hitop films, Captain Midnight etc have all agreed to do a “favourite marvel scene” video
Greatest TH-cam cross over for greatest movie cross over
@@JackJohnson-dl2mi is that actually what happend? I was wondering who copied who lol
The thing that makes Hulk a compelling character is that it's two people, two people who hate each other more than anything else, and they have to share a body. The Hulk isn't a mask you can put on or take off, he's a whole other being with his own thoughts and feelings. Also he smash the thing and it's cool.
my guy, you haven't even seen him in Endgame, prolly the saddest "fall from grace" in the entire franchise
Spoiler Alert:
Thor and Hulk become a complete joke in endgame. They are suppose to be the big guns of the avengers, but they turn them into clown.
Ezzat Casim yeah they make them about as powerful as a bodybuilder and make captain marvel Superman 🤦♂️
captain marvel: I am the strongest avenger
I loved professor hulk and fat thor
@Ezzat Casim
Wooosh.
Even though Thor is still a power house since him being fat doesn't really affects his strength nor agility. You know... cuz god.
Characters can have comedic and dramatic moments. That's why I love the mcu.
oh my gosh THAT GUY IS *PRETTY STRONG HUH*
- Gubz, 2019
I love the sympathetic take on how Hulk just wants to stay in control and have a purpose and existence and be loved like on Ragnarok. He tries to keep control over their "body", but not malevolently. In fact it's very similar to how Banner wants to stay in control. He sees Banner as the bad guy keeping him locked away, and only calling on him to use him to solve problems. It's amazing. I do hope the arc is completed with them finding peace with one another, but naturally and not artificially.
Just because you showed a clip of the Russos explaining the arc doesn't mean that the arc doesn't speak for itself. There are clips of Russos explaining ALL the arcs.
And if you're expecting something and it doesn't go the way you want, that doesn't mean the arc doesn't have something of its own to offer.
John Startop yeah but Hulk’s motivation wasn’t shown well anyway.
@@yeahkeen2905 I got it crystal clear, so it depends on the person.
John Startop so you got, without any indication, that hulk just didn’t want to help Banner because he just didn’t like him? You didn’t think it had anything to do with Thanos beating his ass?
@@yeahkeen2905 If you think it's that simple, maybe you should stick to simpler films.
John Startop like I said, that arc wasn’t shown to the audience well. Simple.
wow, they literally threw him out the flipping window and they were like "YEET!"
Yeeted like nobody’s business.
*Hulk never once smashed in Endgame, but dabs.*
@@drserr6581 That dab in particular is pain.
In the Infinity War commentary they said that the reason we no longer see Hulk is bc he is tired of being used
"No Banner!" That one line made me a little emotional.
I agree MCU diminished Hulk each movie I was hoping for rematch in endgames but he still in diminished
I'm a simple man, I see Gubz I click.
What if I'm not simple but still see Gubz and click?
@@Crebb2184 then your a bradygamer 160
@@Adam-vc6bp Lol
*_I see you are man of culture as well ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_*
@@Adam-vc6bp :D
Totally agree, and I think the worst thing about Marvel is the way humor is used. They're afraid their audience will get bored or offtrack if there aren't constant jokes.
The scenes that dare to be deep and dark and profound are the best.
Best example would be Doctor Strange, the scene where he's finally a hero, looks up in the mirror and the cape just ruins the tension by twitching. It's like Mads Mikkelsen's evil Guy joking with Strange : sure it's a tad fun but then your antagonist is, himself, a joke. Not someone you fear
Gubz If you are reading this I just wanna say that I love your videos i missed you when you were gone for a while you are the one thing that gives me happiness in this dark world thank you But question HOW THICC IS THICCSILVER
It’s not just his personality changing, its also the fact the Hulk Can Speak All Of A Sudden
I agree that Hulk was used as a litmus test, but there’s no way he doesn’t get a scene where he smashes Thanos. Can’t wait to see that!
Maybe he Even says hulk smash Before.
If he turns into doc green then he definitely won't
Get ready for disappointment
What? Thanos literally destroyed him why would he become 3 million times stronger from just one movie
Spencer Fine Because his powers are limitless in the comics and correlate to his anger
Uhh what do you think director commentary is? They didn't HAVE to explain Banner's arc. It made perfect sense
Your hilarious and i respect your point of view in your videos keep it up bro💪🏾
Is no one going to point out the halo theme in the background? Or do you just do that for every video? (I’m new to the channel btw)
He fell from Grace right after his departure in Age of Ultron.
I like how you were not only praising the MCU, but also critical of it where it was necessary. Great video! ✌️
Hulk WAS my favorite MCU character, but now I don't have one anymore. But he's still my favorite marvel character.
The hulk in avengers: get smashed by Thor
The hulk in avengers age of ultron: get smashed by tony
The hulk in ragnarok: gets smashed by Thor again
The hulk in infinity war: gets smashed by thanos
The hulk in endgame: suddenly smashes everyone
*Hah you fool. This isn't even my final form*
in avengers it looked like thor was the one who getting smashed by hulk
Umm Thor didnt really smash Hulk...
In Avengers.
In AOU he was calmed down by the scared people. He would have gotten up and probably won if he didnt see them. Ragnorok it ain't fair to say anyone was smashed because we never saw Hulk get insanely angry and at full power. He got hit once and was shocked but that was it.
The fact that the halo theme is playing during the beginning makes this ten times better.
11:44 when the castle crashers music started playing that really took me back...
Yo am I the only one that hated Professor Hulk in Endgame
He sucked he was only In the movie because it wouldn’t make sense how they would teach regular hulk to snap his fingers
Professor Hulk is confirmed, haven't you seen the Funko Pop?
Oisín Ó M and the leaked footage
Missing the point
@@sophie-dd9ql No leaks.
The main differance is that his first transgormation music had that threatening cue(?), and the one in Ragnorok had a depressing one.
Dude I laugh so hard everytime you over-prounounciate your K's and C's at the end of words.
Gubz consistently putting out incredible content.
#TheManTheMythTheLegendGubz
Gubz is uploading more yay
I agree. When I first saw this scene, it reminded me that we don't get scenes like this with the Hulk much anymore since the 08 movie. Didn't really get much from the Hulk after that. Until this scene though. One of my favorites.
It does kinda suck that he was mostly just there as a joke after the first 10 minutes of Infinity War.
You should make a video on the effects endgame makes on the hulk
This is really sad and I am sad now
Endgame flops on the Hulk. I'm a big Hulk guy and man did they drop the ball with him.
Disagreed. Vehemently. It's exactly who the Hulk was supposed to end up being.
I guess I wanted to see classic hulk, the "final option" bad ass hulk. The one that sends chills down your spine when he finally comes into play. Black Widow dieing should have been what snapped him into a version of the world breaker hulk. My God would that have been as epic of a moment there had ever been in the MCU. To watch Hulk fully take back control from Banner in such a fit of rage that it literally shakes planet Earth... I'm sorry but that would have been absolutely epic.
I think your missing my point, I am aware of how world breaker hulk comes into existence in the comics. I'm saying Black Widows death in the MCU was a chance to bring a "VERSION" of world breaker hulk into the MCU. It's not supposed to be the same.WBH that comes out of the comics, just an adaption into the cinematic side of things.
They better go World Breaker Hulk or Immortal Hulk.
@shurednichso The Dr.Jekyl/Mr.Hyde duality is great. It shows the downside of having too much power, and shows how dangerous anger can be. Going Professor Hulk is basically Hulk in "recovery". Thankfully this doesn't mean the end, and we get an even better Hulk during the "relapse".
Well, that's your opinion. Personally, I love the direct they're taking the Hulk. Hulk getting beat down didn't downgrade how bad ass he is, it showed how much more bad ass Thanos was.
Professor Hulk is a great evolution of the character. He doesn't have to be the strongest Avenger now. His ability to comprehend that he was the one that could bring back the everyone without dying. It worked.
I don't mind professor hulk, just wished he had a power moment in endgame
kelvin webley He had a brief one during the final battle, but there’s so much happening that you can barely notice it.
The only reason why we know about it now is because the movie has released digitally and people can watch it at their own pace (hence why I’m commenting 3 months later).
So cool to see banner fighting hulk from coming out then to see hulk stopping banner from taking complete control to be normal again super awesome
With Endgame having been out and showing us Professor Hulk, I think people forget why it even happened. In Avengers, Bruce was afraid of showing himself to the world, but came anyways to save it. Bruce was accepted back into society while Hulk was seen as something to pull out when needed to fight. Age of Ultron comes around and Hulk shows us something. He shows remorse for his actions in that one town and he sees the carnage that he made and begins to realize that people won't accept him. He leaves Earth and finds himself on Sakaar, where he is worshipped and loved for two whole years. He then sees the video of Natasha and begins to realize that while everyone on Sakaar loves him, he had genuine friends and loved ones who was willing to stay by his side. That crack allowed Banner to come out. After the events of Ragnarok, Hulk knew he could never go back to what he had. The one thing he did have was that he was the strongest, until Thanos came. Hulk didn't want to come back out only to lose again. He basically lost everything at that point and he didn't know how to deal with it. Even Bruce says that "We are gonna have to figure things out" when Hulk wouldn't come out during the New York fight. Then later on, when Hulk doesn't come out still during the Wakanda fight, Bruce takes over completely to fight their battle. After the snap, he and Hulk had a lot of time to connect with each other. They both know they had to be better because "First Hulk lost, and then Banner lost", as he said to the others when they met up again 5 years later. With the Professor Hulk form, Hulk finally got what he always wanted: to be accepted by others. Sure, he was accepted on Sakaar, but it was true acceptance on Earth where anyone would come to him to meet him. Heck, in a deleted scene, he was shown being a true hero. Instead of cops having their guns pointed at him, they thanked him and were glad he was there to help them. In the end, it was the current Hulk that the world, and the universe, needed to make things right. He's happy now, and while he may be down an arm for now (he did still fight with it, and I would assume that his healing factor may only be going slow due to what caused him the damage. I mean, look at how Thanos and Tony was when they snapped. Thanos probably got lucky to have been alive after doing that second snap), he can still go to the world he now loves and help protect it when needed.
The Hulk is essentially dead. Bruce is all that's left. Since the hulk is a separate personality, we can assume he is gone for good unless the mcu decide to give him control again. Also, hulk fans were disappointed in how they potrayed the Hulk as more weak and childish as you progressed through the movies. Banner was great, but the hulk as a character was not. Characters like Thor, Iron man and Captain America were excellent.
I just hate how the hulk in the mcu doesn’t live up to his title
THE STRONGEST ONE THEIR IS!!!
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ok so you think the thing that made hulk unique was the two personalities? well you did get that in loads of movies. Just because something works doesn't mean we should do it forever. if you want angsty hulk you'll always have him in the old movies. just because ragnarok changed him doesn't mean it's worse like this, trying new things is good
edit: watched the rest of the video. sorry, it's really sort of pissing me off when people say something 'used to be better'. You got what you wanted! You have it and you can rewatch it! Just because you think this isn't the best version of him, that doesn't mean everyone thinks so. I don't have much of an opinion on the actual topic but it's a bit presumptuous to say you're the authority on which hulk was better
soz for the rant
Yes, totally agree! Plus, keeping hulk the same while the other characters were undergoing huge character shifts would have been a huge disappointment
Sorry for the late reply, but YES 100%.
If Hulk never changed, he would never have any character growth.
The problem is that new hulk doesn't have much depth. He's just a joke machine. It's true that they should try new things, but you have to do it right.
That doesn’t justify doing it off screen. They pretty much killed Hulk. We don’t know what happened, but by what it looks like Hulk agreed to being permanently deleted from existence no questions aske d
The fact that the Hulk’s arc has him winding down to a more controlled and less chaotic beast is a good reminder that there are better writers than me... I say that knowing I’m not even a writer at all, but hopefully ya-get-my-point.
Bruh the first few seconds and you're like "and finally we get to see the Hulk in his most definitive *HOWEVER*
I remember in the 90s Dr. Sampson used pyschology to merge hulk, grey hulk and banner. When he got mad he turned into banner with the mind of the hulk.
That version handled it much better...
Hulk is criminally underpowered in the MCU
That last criticism really isn’t fair. That was DVD commentary, they explained literally every character’s arc and purpose in infinity war. It wasn’t necessary to understanding Banner in those movies.
This is my only issue with the endgame movie. Was expecting a good fight with the hulk and thanos. Pay back for the past beating. He is my favorite character, and didn't get the action scene I think he deserved. But my god what a movie. Its awesome!
You right this was the issue with Endgame that's why I see the movie kind of boring but entertaining at least
Being born in 1978 i grew up terrified of the Hulk. Then i Embraced my Fear and Hulk became my favorite Hero and Villain. Where is the Rage? The inner Turmoil? The Jekyl and Hyde tribute?. After watching Endgame...Professor Hulk just does not resonate with me.
I really appreciate the use of Castle Crashers music in this video. It really took me back.
I honestly really like the hulk now. The little emotion and some seemingly throw away lines in ragnorok make hulk feel more real, more of a person.
This video reminded me in the immortal hulk when hulk says the reason he appears when he's angry or hurt is because he loves banner and want to protect him in a way.
They totally screwed up the hulk and I hate professor hulk
That is something I didn't notice when I watched the movie. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
I think that they're setting up for a character arch when Hulk and Bruce Banner both come to terms with themselves, and have a perfect mutual connection.
From someone who’s been complaining about what they’ve done with Hulk in the MCU I thank you for uploading this video .
What I love in the Planet Hulk storyline (which Thor: Ragnarok took more from than actual Thor comics), the Hulk and not Banner is the main character. The Hulk sees Banner as a demon that occupies his body. The Hulk is afraid of turning into Banner just as much as Banner is afraid of turning into Hulk. Banner fears the rage and destruction caused by the Hulk, and the Hulk fears the weakness Banner possesses.
The MCU completely messed up the Hulk
The Castle Crasher tracks in here hit me with nostalgia
I really liked this analysis and this Hulk scene from Ragnarok is one of my favorite scenes in the MCU. Bruce and Hulk are such tragic figures to me. I don't mind either of them being silly or quippy because I do find that entertaining, but ultimately they are both trapped and both victims of horrific circumstances. When Bruce says he's always angry and talks about his failed suicide attempt, it's clear that his entire existence is a state of suffering where he's trying not to go over the edge. Then in Ragnarok we get to see that Hulk feels similarly, he's caged and hated and feared and his entire existence is that of a prisoner inside someone else's body. Neither get to be happy or whole or free, ever.
I have PTSD and find Banner quite sympathetic from that perspective too. Just being trapped with overwhelming consequences of something that happened to you and struggling every single moment just to exist in state of torment, let alone trying to lessen or control it in any way. And that kind of experience is so unrelatable that it alienates you from other people and from the compassion that could ultimately make it easier to be less angry. It's truly so sad.
Professor Hulk as a character is a little goofy, but the idea that Banner and Hulk are able to co-exist is probably the happiest ending that could be hoped for. Again, looking at it from the perspective of a trauma victim, you can't undo the things that have happened to you but it's supposedly possible to have pain but not to have suffering. If Banner can be angry but not enraged, a mutant but not a monster, then that is a best case scenario. Likewise, Hulk is able experience autonomy and people reacting to him with caring. The fact that Banner and Hulk have this found family of the Avengers and have enough internal peace to have silly moments is a really beautiful outcome. I love the taco scene in Endgame because Hulk, this once out-of-control brute, is able to show kindness when other characters without any tremendous baggage were just assholes for no reason-it's really sweet that that's who Banner and Hulk get to be at the end. Everyone who struggles should be so lucky to come out the other side of it one day as a kind person who finds belonging and was not made bitter by their experiences.
In the comics this Doc Green persona is not a long term solution and eventually his lingering past traumas make him Savage again. I think this is just another hold back for Hulk to be able to shine some other time because the other characters needed their story arcs concluded in Endgame.
Hulk in Ragnarok is a great Hulk. I loved his acting. His acting spoke louder than words. You can feel his frustration. No one wants him, no one truly likes him not even Banner.
Ya'll out here dissin' Professor Hulk in Endgame forgetting that he did the Snap that brought everyone back *SMH*
I love that scene in Ragnarok. It's so good when directors really show their understanding of a character. Hulk is underrated.. so much more than 'smash.' And I'm glad that *spoilers* he found some measure of peace in Endgame through being Professor Hulk.
Same.
Who's waiting for that gubz end game review
I think the point of Hulks change is that he's essentially his own person, and from the first Hulk to the Avengers, he's only really been alive when there's danger, or perceives danger, but after age of Ultron, he's given a lot of time to be alive and learn, so he goes from essentially a raging child that needs a lullaby to calm it, to a toddler who can sort of control his temper, play with other people like Valkyrie, and has actual relationships with people, like befriending Thor and caring about him when Thor leaves. I thought it was a pretty cool and interesting change to the Hulk.
The rant parts are greatness lol
bro you literally made this small scene sound so depressing
My first interpretation of Hulk in Ragnarok and Infinity War was about the unhealthy relationship between Hulk and Banner, and how Hulk masked that with jokes and childish behavior, followed by him hiding after failing (losing everything he had on Sakaar). In fact, I really like that the Hulk is like this because it doesnt makes it an unidimensional character, but one that uses a facade to hide what he ultimately feels. I didnt need someone to tell me that, I just felt it right and I know why this happened. See, I know a thing or two about adictive behavior. Not just drug abuse or alcohol, but things in general. Anything can be an escape, and if you dont face your problems, you get involved in bad desicions, and a cycle begins but never ends until you end rock bottom. Thats the transformation scene. Thats what flips the entire Hulk arc on its head. Hulk hiding on Infinity War was just he giving up after he faced his problem and not wanting to solve it, not trying to fix things and work with Bruce. I thing this is an interesting arc, and one that finishes on Endgame. I havent seen the movie but whatever happens there, its the end of the road for Hulk and I would love to see them work together as a team. This Hulk is more than just a child, he feels and understand, he just didnt have an oportunity to be himself and when that happened he didnt know what to do, so became addicted to that.
You also have to remember Professor Hulk (Doc Green is his real name in the comics) isn't Banner in hulk's body. It's Banner's intelligence put in Hulk's personality as well as his body (and I hope that's what they do in Endgame). In the comics it actually worked out terribly for Banner because Hulk is able to keep him locked away for a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time. The raging animosity towards Banner and Hulk was still the same.
For the reason why Hulk punches himself, the only one that makes any sense at all in my mind is reason 3: to keep himself angry and in control. The other two make literally no sense in the context of the situation.
Edit: I also agree with your opinions on Captain America. He was really boring at first and he's really interesting and awesome now.
They're trying to make the hulk irrelevant! Don't you guys see?
That halo theme at the start earned my subscription
From the Hulk, to the Sulk
SMH what thay did in end game to hulk and Hulk fans is a f-ing disgrace they really just castrated the hulk!! That kept telling us that the hulk would have his day the hulk is going to come back and take Thanos down lying S.O.B.
What happend to the hulk we all loved. Now we have a smart hulk that doesn't smash anymore😥
1v4r he still smashed with one arm and snapped everyone back.