Wet Dreams ain’t corny. It’s just an awkward subject and Cole does a great job telling a story about it. He shows his vulnerability through this track. No other rappers would have the balls to talk about this topic and deliver it so well.
Yea it’s literally cole writing from the perspective of a teenager, of course he’s not going to be mature, he wasn’t mature at that age and he’s depicting that in the song, of course it sounds corny if you are taking it as a mature adult rapper talking about his meat but that’s not what the song is
FHD is one of my all time favorite. You did it justice in your argument. The impact of this album is endless. Might’ve not influenced many albums after it came out but the way it touched people and gave them motivation is something that will be more important always and forever. Let’s get that Rodeo vs DS2 going lol
I hope you guys blow up someday . You guys have such high caliber content on TH-cam and have more than enough knowledge on hiphop to make videos worthy of watching . Great video
2014 FHD is culturally a classic , and it is a coming to age album that makes you think that no matter how far you came you can’t give up on what you truly want and love how you grinding right now because it is the pure form of you. If 2014 Fhd is Cole album talking about coming of age then 4YEO is Cole on his grown man ish and understanding responsibility of his actions .. 2014 FHD hits different till this day, even tho the off season is not Cole best work and I kinda lost faith in his work he still made a album better than 2014 FHD and that was 4YEO and I think the fall off will be more better than that.
@@Hakeemthabeen888 you Tripping concept wise and musically it is better! If you know music you know it is. I know music FRFR musically is better and he worked twice as hard on 4YEO…. Rightfully so 2014 had the surprise hype and it was great album cultural classic but 4YEO only is a dope deep concept and musically better album. But this like apples and oranges, I like both album but as I age and super close to 30 4YEO is like fine wine it gets better FRFR , and 2014 Fhd came out when I was in my college years so two different areas in my life that why I say but everything is base of my experience I could care less what the general public thinks this is me! 4YEO > 2014 FHD for me as I got older and really experienced life as a carbon melanin being! 💯🔥✨👑⚡️💫salute this is my take!
I’m not a big Drake fan but NWTS is a classic and even though I love FHD and it’s a classic too, Drake takes this for me pretty easily. Every song on NWTS going toe to toe is better IMO besides a couple like No Role Modelz
Ppl don’t talk about how great from time and connect are . Song like tht makes drake hard to compete with . The atmosphere, song writing and vocal performance, delivery. Like on connect is he rapping or singing ? Idk because he blends it so well
@@Hakeemthabeen888 Okay? Lol what is your point? I was recommending mans a channel that does something similar since they said they liked this type of video
Before I was watching u guys I was trying to find a quality hip hop channel. Now that I look back at what I was watching as far as music goes those people had no idea what they’re talking about now that u watch u guys. U guys know every fact about every project. It’s crazy. Sometimes I guys even make me go back to a track list because I didn’t even realize something in it. Love these free smoke videos. Probably my favorite series along with the tier lists. Hope u guys blow one day because ur content is honestly way better than some of these popular people that review music
FHD, over NWTS. I love both albums, both were beautifully produced, written well, and sequenced accordingly…but nothing and I mean nothing can come close to how relatable and soulful Cole comes off in that album. I love Cole, but even some of his new stuff can’t even top how soulful that album is.
@@A.N.T916 What?? Man I'm talking about the music. I was in high school when NWTS came out. Old music is linked to memories you had around time the music came out, it was a different time in my life than now
Kinda crazy how my favorite Drizzy, Cole, & K.Dot projects happen to be their 3rd projects. NWTS & 2014 FHD are two of my favorite albums from this generation easily, and honestly I can't be mad at whoever say's they prefer one over the other. Great debate/video can't wait for more!
J.cole can never do wrong in my eyes. I will 9/10 pick j.cole work. FHD is a classic solid album 10/10 he is genuinely happy when he aing and raps when telling his story I agree with the no features! Every message has meaning and brings light
Honestly atrocious, 2014 is definitely music for the soul, whereas NWTS is music for the radio honestly. Drake can not hold a candle to KDot and Cole other than sales
Long Comment: Not starting an argument. Just wondering, what do you think is superior about MBDTF compared to TPAB? I personally lean on the side of TPAB but I really want to hear your perspective. I do enjoy the production of MBDTF more than TPAB but I think they’re closer and more comparable than people make out. In fact, it’s hard to compare the grandiose and booming production of Fantasy to the Jazz-Rap production of TPAB. I don’t personally think that TPAB has a miss and while I can’t say MBDTF misses, it does have a few weaker spots when you look into relativity. Of course, when you have tracks like Runaway which are widely considered some of the best of all time, tracks that are slightly weaker like Blame Game are going to seem worse than they really are. That being said, even with songs like The Blacker The Berry, u, and How Much A Dollar Cost?, there are still no tracks that really stand out as weaker than the rest. I believe these are the two best albums of that decade and I’d just like to know why you put Fantasy above it?
@@landonbehrendt2553 I’d love to give you my perspective! To me production comes pretty much above all, unless the lyrics are complete crap. Lyrics matter a lot to me too, but production matters slightly more to me. MBDTF, while not having the narrative complexity of TPAB, still does a fantastic job speaking on the issues it does speak on and has some very introspective tracks as well as some big bangers and amazing verses. And I mean when it comes to production MBDTF beats all for me. TPAB is amazing too don’t get me wrong. That album is also super well produced and is lyrically stronger than MBDTF, but I just enjoy MBDTF more. No song on TPAB can compete with the top 5 on MBDTF for me (LITW, DIAND, Runaway, Gorgeous, and Hell Of A Life). I will say TPAB is more consistent quality wise, but You Ain’t Gotta Lie is worse than any song on MBDTF for me personally (and I don’t love So Appalled). Just it’s a matter of a harder hitting subject matter (I can’t directly relate to a lot of the things on racial injustice on TPAB and MBDTF touches on a bit more that I can at least relate too), much better production (although TPAB is immaculately produced), and just the fact that TPAB is so much harder to listen to. Both are incredible, but MBDTF lines up with what I like in music the most. That’s why it’s my all time favorite album!
@@NFRPodcast of course, y’all have the best news updates, album reviews, rankings, and now free smoke! Great high quality TH-cam channel, y’all deserve all the recent success and way more
I got 2014 FHD as well yall both did great at yall arguments I can say “Love Yourz” help me get out of some depression and I see a lot of people online with the same sentiment Cole for the win!
I think this competition reveals a lot about what a listener values. NWTS is masterfully produce hip/rnb hybrid with melodic anthems and lots of replay-ability. 2014FHD is a masterful example of storytelling and conveying a message. I personally prefer 2014FHD.
When you talk about things you are passionate about it especially in a debate then things get heated. Lu only gets slightly louder after Ant calmly says something that he knows is going to get a reaction out of Lu in my opinion.I love how they both have different deliveries. Good job guys. Very entertaining!
This has got to be the best videos you guys have ever made. So entertaining you guys definitely need to make a sequel to this episode arguing for another set of albums!
Both of these albums are my favorite from each artists discography but I'm taken NWTS. It's so nostalgic for me being a kid listening to nwts was a moment I will never forget💯
Double platinum no features, #1 on the charts with no singles prior to release. Cole laid the groundwork for a viable yet completely different album rollout with this one that he had always said could work but nobody ever believed. I don't think people would rollout as out of the blue and nonchalant if it weren't for this album.
I like Cole a lot more than Drake but NWTS sweeps Cole’s entire discography. I usually only like Drake’s single but NWTS and Take Care are both amazing albums and amongst the best of the 2010s
@@caseykash9867 lmaooooo man this is cringe . Born sinner isn’t better than even so far gone . Kod isn’t even better than thank me later . You just prefer them I’m someone who grew up being huge fans of both but lol a lot of ppl after fhd (newer fans )started becoming very self righteous and annoying .
@@Hakeemthabeen888 for the record cole doesn’t even crack my t5 drake does so that should give you some context and I could say the same about new drake fans
@@caseykash9867 no u can’t lol drakes fans have been the same way since the start lol I’m some one tht was a Cole fan since 2010 (who dat who dat days) u can argue Friday nights lights is Cole at his peak especially when it comes to rapping . Born sinner and truly yours 2 dropped 2013 , a lot of ppl liked and respected wale more than Cole … then fhd comes up ppl started treating Cole like a god . Great album but the fans post tht time period says the corniest things . Kod bro ? Better than take care and nwts 🤣😂. It might not be better than more life . Born sinner was really good but it’s not beating out anything drake put out from 09 to 2016
@@NFRPodcast every song is sentimental meaning for me rapping singing on the same tier everything he said on that album was real not one skip me you can play front to back this was WOKE drake .
Dope content once again!! Suggestion for next one, albums that i’ve never heard discussed in comparison: 2Pac (All Eyez On me) - Biggie Smalls (Ready to die).
@@caseykash9867 lol Cole is overrated as hell lyrically(still really good)but because he only raps and his subject matter is considered conscious and drakes isn’t so Cole Is deem better lyrically lmaoo Tuscan leather and POUNDCAKE /Paris Morton 2 kills anything on fhd. Now … connect is a better song in terms of lyrics and production than any track on fhd even doe it’s not really a rap song .
@@Hakeemthabeen888 completely disagree nothing was the same had like 3 solid tracks worthy of rotation forest hill drive had like 5-6.. and the whole concept of of 2014 FHD. is a lot more consistent than NWTS
@@itsfcbrandon 3 solid tracks ? Okay lmaaaoo weirdo 🤣🤦🏾♂️ both albums have more than 3 solid tracks . Anyone saying otherwise is a moron. Nwts concept is also better lol it actually has a consistent concept and story
I think 2014 Forest Hills Drive blows Nothing Was The Same out of the water. 2014 Forest Hills Drive has a way better concept and lyrical content as well as explaining that concept as if it’s a movie. I feel when I listen to 2014 Forest Hills Drive it’s like a soundtrack to his life. I have to disagree with Luca on a few things 1 being J Coles melodic performances on the album, I absolutely love his singing on apparently and I actually prefer that song over almost all songs on Nothing Was The Same. Also have to disagree with the Wet Dreamz take, that song is incredible and definitely fits the tracklist. Also I actually really enjoy Note To Self. I feel production is a huge thing for 2014 FHD I totally agree with everything with Anthony said with how it fits the vibe and the tracklist and all that. I definitely feel the production is a massive add for this album! Also Tale Of 2 Cityz i do think is the best produced song out of both records, or GOMD. I also think in this case the production being by J Cole does add to the tracklist. And im sorry Luca but 2014 FHD is absolutely 100% not boring production wise. Honestly it’s some of my favourite production ever. When it comes to impact yes Nothing Was The Same was huge for that kinda R&B/ Rap but FHD is what artists still to this day look at when wanting to make a strictly Rap album. Also if you look at sales J Cole still sold 361k first week and he did no promotion what’s so ever he announced it 2 weeks before and that was it. The only “promotion” he did was not even him doing it his song Fire Squad was leaked. If you wanna talk impact song wise I can name so many songs on FHD that have had an impact not just on me but on thousands very well millions of people. Songs like Love Yourz for example. Literally every song on 2014 FHD is better conceptually. 2014 I think blows NWTS out of the water when it comes to touching people. Luca talked about Not liking Note To Self. The message in this song is very impactful and all he did was sang for a bit. Overall I think 2014 is a better project and I think it sweeps NWTS. NWTS is a great project but I don’t think it touches 2014 FHD. The only way it beats it is numbers. I think Anthony win this one sorry Luca, man I love this series. Also my opinion might be slightly bias because 2014 FHD is in my top 2 favourite albums of all time interchangeable with FYEO. Overall I just think NWTS can’t touch 2014 FHD. Sorry I wrote like a whole essay 😂😂😂. Great Video Guys!!!
@@connordavis3018 tbh i don’t feel like reading all that but I’m just gonna say i LOVE love LOVE both of these albums. I’ll say on a personal level forest hills drive resonates with me a little more but both of these albums are classics and it definitely doesn’t blow nothing was the same out of the water.
I love both álbums nothing was the same is my favorite drake album but I’m going with 2014 hills drive because to me it’s relatable in the sense that a lot that j cole is talking about I went through and it really hits home to me
I remember when I went to Miami for spring break in 2014 they were selling „I’m on my worst behavior“ T-Shirts in the tourist shops. So much for the impact of nothing was the same.
These albums were pretty much even for me for the longest time but NWTS takes it for me. I think Drake really made more timeless songs on there. 2014 FHD is dope but it feels more like it's from the time it came out in. I think NWTS aged much better. It really showed Drake's versatility and even maturity from his previous work as well his most concise work to date.
I thought Lu won this one for sure. However Anthony makes talks up these albums so well I have to go back and listen to them again because I feel like I missed something. Great job guys.
One of the best albums of all time? You're really gonna put it in the same leagues as illmatic, the chronic, ATLiens, Led Zeppelin IV, sgt peppers, Dark side of the moon?
@@Jon155mt Ok to be fair I was 15 when I commented this and I thought Cole was the greatest rapper ever 😭 but it’s still a classic and top 10 hip hop album of the 2010s
Love the show Liquid swordz vs OB4CL Midnight Marauders vs Enter the 36 chambers But anyway, since the first two ep are recent projects i would like to see two from the 90s
Gotta go with nwts. Every song just puts me in a certain place in my young 20 year life. That time period for me was memorable and this was the album that really got me into music. Needless to say personally I don’t think I even find out about J Cole or rap music outside radio hits if it wasn’t for nwts. However both albums are always on constant play for me throughout the year and are great bodies of work all around.
NWTS aged well with time & thats the definition of a classic how drake manifested hw he was gonna be at the top & it happened drake album flew over peoples’ heads Forest hills drive was a gd one 1st listen but we all know what pound cake means to the hiphop community ☝️
No role modelz, wet dreamz, love yourz, 03 adolescence, and take of two citiez ALONE as 5 tracks are better than 80% of drakes catalog and that’s not biased at all. I prefer to listen to drake more OFTEN but 2014FHD adds something to coles discography that drake doesn’t have and is still chasing to this day: a CLASSIC album.
Damn this is my favorite albums from Drake n J cole but gotta give it to NWTS overall but I think Forest Hill drive has more impact , especially with a track like Love Yourz always gets me out of a bad place
Tuscan leather alone is legendary, the transitions in nwts is crazy as hell and flows. The samples were legendary. You have iconic songs like pound cake, from time, hold on we're going home, worst behaviour and not to mention started from the bottom which boomed everywhere! NWTS is a whole playlist on its own; something FHD isn't. As much I love Cole as well, none of his albums are better than NWTS and Take Care. The fact that Drake is able to blend his rnb and rap in such a top notch way is so underrated.
@@bakhtiyarguseinov9402 nwts is easily a top 100 album of all time and it’s drakes best …. Damn near a perfect album . Drake at his apex of youth but maturing an a man. Tuscan leather is a 10/10 intro… further thing is a 10/10 follow up track . Atleast 10 of out of the 13 songs are flawless . So much range and emotional depth in this album , beautiful song writing and structure.. sequencing . You got anthem drake , you got braggadocio drake ,victory lap drake, bedroom drake , and introspective ballad drake … there’s not too many albums especially hip hop albums with this range . Answer this question wat song on fhd is better than connect ? Or from time ? And those aren’t even considered the two best songs on nwts shit wu tang forever is better than every song on fhd
For Me Personally "Nothing Was the Same" singles just Smashes Through All Forest Hill Driving songs Except for "Wet Dremz, No Role Modules, A Tale Of two Citiez.
Yeah I know I am late to the convo.. but…. As amazing as an album NWTS is, 2014 takes the cake on Impact and Artistry for sure. Tie on Production if you ask me.
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Cole, not even close. One of the best albums ever made imo.....
2014 FHD is purely a classic album from the production Impact and masterpiece artistry in general.
Wet Dreams ain’t corny. It’s just an awkward subject and Cole does a great job telling a story about it. He shows his vulnerability through this track. No other rappers would have the balls to talk about this topic and deliver it so well.
Yea it’s literally cole writing from the perspective of a teenager, of course he’s not going to be mature, he wasn’t mature at that age and he’s depicting that in the song, of course it sounds corny if you are taking it as a mature adult rapper talking about his meat but that’s not what the song is
exactly and it’s so catchy with an amazing sample
@@col7004 not to mention Cole literally made the entire track by himself, something that drake could never do in his whole life
Definitely a cringe track
It’s definitely corny. And every rapper has rapped about this subject at some point. It’s not anything mind blowing
Love Yourz is one of the realest songs ever.
FHD is one of my all time favorite. You did it justice in your argument. The impact of this album is endless. Might’ve not influenced many albums after it came out but the way it touched people and gave them motivation is something that will be more important always and forever. Let’s get that Rodeo vs DS2 going lol
Rodeo and DS2 is always a classic debate cuz they're both classic.
I love how passionate y’all are about your respective albums, and how educated you are on each other’s. This is a great series
2024 FHD is a more cohesive body of work and Anthony you did use Cole fans justice 💐
The god from the future has ANNOUNCED 2024 FHD 🙇🏾
it is not but its just opinions
@@leorodrigues9596 it is
@@bucio2real present me your argument cz i think it isnt
No way, NWS is way more cohesive
Drake's NWTS and Cole's FTD are the reasons why I'm so invested in their music and this whole genres history.
Love both albums, they cut from a similar style but 2014 FHD just takes the cake. 13 great tracks through and through on that record.
12. Note to self always gets skipped even though it’s hilarious
@@producedbykhireyakeem4340 nah note to self is cool, not playing it in the car tho
Not to self has absolutely ZERO replay value. Which is a shame because I like the piano production.
I hope you guys blow up someday . You guys have such high caliber content on TH-cam and have more than enough knowledge on hiphop to make videos worthy of watching . Great video
We’re on our way🙏 thanks for the kind words Lays, we appreciate it!
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Perfect match up I think 2014 FHDS wins in a close battle
That’s fair
Lou “ I will play that at my wedding” ant” I’ll play no role modelz at my wedding” 😂😂
I'll play wet dreamz at my wedding (met my bride in math class)
@@original_shmirko_account Dude, the stars lined up for you perfectly.
@@original_shmirko_account 🎶Wasn’t nothing like that…
@@philiplewandowski2469 first time she was in my math class
I like NWTS more than Forest Hills but I think that Ant brought better arguments to the table, especially about the impact of the album
🙏 hope you enjoyed
Ye lu's argument were kinda weak
Yeah when Ant asked him about how does NWTS delivers a concise concept Lu didn’t know what to respond 😂
I don’t understand how one can like a Drake album more than a Cole album 🤷🏽♂️. FHD, KOD and 4YEO beats any drake album besides maybe Take Care
@@A.N.T916 because they enjoy listening to it more.
2014 FHD is culturally a classic , and it is a coming to age album that makes you think that no matter how far you came you can’t give up on what you truly want and love how you grinding right now because it is the pure form of you. If 2014 Fhd is Cole album talking about coming of age then 4YEO is Cole on his grown man ish and understanding responsibility of his actions .. 2014 FHD hits different till this day, even tho the off season is not Cole best work and I kinda lost faith in his work he still made a album better than 2014 FHD and that was 4YEO and I think the fall off will be more better than that.
4yeo wasn’t half as good as fhd lol stop it be objective . Say u like it better not tht it’s better Thts just not true
@@Hakeemthabeen888 you Tripping concept wise and musically it is better! If you know music you know it is. I know music FRFR musically is better and he worked twice as hard on 4YEO…. Rightfully so 2014 had the surprise hype and it was great album cultural classic but 4YEO only is a dope deep concept and musically better album. But this like apples and oranges, I like both album but as I age and super close to 30 4YEO is like fine wine it gets better FRFR , and 2014 Fhd came out when I was in my college years so two different areas in my life that why I say but everything is base of my experience I could care less what the general public thinks this is me! 4YEO > 2014 FHD for me as I got older and really experienced life as a carbon melanin being! 💯🔥✨👑⚡️💫salute this is my take!
Amazing album, whats the best song on there?
@@theuniqueoneable why didn’t you like the off season?
@@MadLadMax I just felt like he was appealing to the young crowd too much !!! In my opinion
I’m not a big Drake fan but NWTS is a classic and even though I love FHD and it’s a classic too, Drake takes this for me pretty easily. Every song on NWTS going toe to toe is better IMO besides a couple like No Role Modelz
Ppl don’t talk about how great from time and connect are . Song like tht makes drake hard to compete with . The atmosphere, song writing and vocal performance, delivery. Like on connect is he rapping or singing ? Idk because he blends it so well
@@Hakeemthabeen888 💯💯
What’s the best song from both albums?
@@NFRPodcast All Me, Fire Squad
@Alex Chingmay Tuscan leather is slightly better
You know this new series is the best thing created a Certified NFR classic video
You should check out the Mallory Bros. channel too, they’ve been doing this type of series for a while now
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@@spiderjeff5845 they don’t really debate they just play the songs this is a different approach
@@Hakeemthabeen888 Okay? Lol what is your point? I was recommending mans a channel that does something similar since they said they liked this type of video
@@spiderjeff5845 “ they’re been doing this type of series “ no they haven’t totally different format . Don’t cry
2014FHD one of the best albums of all time in my opinion
Before I was watching u guys I was trying to find a quality hip hop channel. Now that I look back at what I was watching as far as music goes those people had no idea what they’re talking about now that u watch u guys. U guys know every fact about every project. It’s crazy. Sometimes I guys even make me go back to a track list because I didn’t even realize something in it. Love these free smoke videos. Probably my favorite series along with the tier lists. Hope u guys blow one day because ur content is honestly way better than some of these popular people that review music
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The lost boy by Cordae definitely got influenced by 2014 Forest Hills Drive
100%
cordae needa drop his new album “from A bird’s eye view”
How did u like it?
Plus Logics under pressure, and anything released under the dreamville label.
@@user-tq2vy2qs2jdidn’t under pressure drop before 2014 fhd
FHD, over NWTS. I love both albums, both were beautifully produced, written well, and sequenced accordingly…but nothing and I mean nothing can come close to how relatable and soulful Cole comes off in that album. I love Cole, but even some of his new stuff can’t even top how soulful that album is.
these are 2 of my favorite albums ever. i got 2014 fhd, but only by a little bit.
Who won the argument for you?
I got FHD winning too but not by much
Gotta go with Nothing Was The Same strictly for the nostalgia but 2014 FHD is still one of the best Hip Hop albums that the 2010s had to offer.
that makes no sense
@@A.N.T916 What makes no sense??
the nostalgia part, there is no way drake gives you nostalgia; he’s always in the media!
@@A.N.T916 What?? Man I'm talking about the music. I was in high school when NWTS came out. Old music is linked to memories you had around time the music came out, it was a different time in my life than now
@@thedon0516 2014 is easily more nostalgic if we talking about it like that
Kinda crazy how my favorite Drizzy, Cole, & K.Dot projects happen to be their 3rd projects. NWTS & 2014 FHD are two of my favorite albums from this generation easily, and honestly I can't be mad at whoever say's they prefer one over the other. Great debate/video can't wait for more!
I just have to go with 'Nothing was thesame', the memories it gives me from that time is unmatched by any Album till this day
Artistry - 2014 FHD
Production - NWTS
Impact - 2014 FHD
J.cole can never do wrong in my eyes. I will 9/10 pick j.cole work. FHD is a classic solid album 10/10 he is genuinely happy when he aing and raps when telling his story I agree with the no features! Every message has meaning and brings light
2 of my favorite albums ever but NWTS cohesiveness, slickness, and quality is amazing man. im going w NWTS
Big W Ja
Honestly atrocious, 2014 is definitely music for the soul, whereas NWTS is music for the radio honestly. Drake can not hold a candle to KDot and Cole other than sales
The fact that's arguably not drakes best project says something about the fact if he has a classic or not
@@wagoomagoo7 “drake doesnt have a classic” lol
@@A.N.T916 NWTS is his least radio friendly 😭 it's not even his fault.
Seems like I just have pretty similar tastes to Luca, I also take the side of NWTS as well as MBDTF in the last one. This series is pure gold
Long Comment: Not starting an argument. Just wondering, what do you think is superior about MBDTF compared to TPAB? I personally lean on the side of TPAB but I really want to hear your perspective. I do enjoy the production of MBDTF more than TPAB but I think they’re closer and more comparable than people make out. In fact, it’s hard to compare the grandiose and booming production of Fantasy to the Jazz-Rap production of TPAB. I don’t personally think that TPAB has a miss and while I can’t say MBDTF misses, it does have a few weaker spots when you look into relativity. Of course, when you have tracks like Runaway which are widely considered some of the best of all time, tracks that are slightly weaker like Blame Game are going to seem worse than they really are. That being said, even with songs like The Blacker The Berry, u, and How Much A Dollar Cost?, there are still no tracks that really stand out as weaker than the rest. I believe these are the two best albums of that decade and I’d just like to know why you put Fantasy above it?
@@landonbehrendt2553 I’d love to give you my perspective! To me production comes pretty much above all, unless the lyrics are complete crap. Lyrics matter a lot to me too, but production matters slightly more to me. MBDTF, while not having the narrative complexity of TPAB, still does a fantastic job speaking on the issues it does speak on and has some very introspective tracks as well as some big bangers and amazing verses. And I mean when it comes to production MBDTF beats all for me. TPAB is amazing too don’t get me wrong. That album is also super well produced and is lyrically stronger than MBDTF, but I just enjoy MBDTF more. No song on TPAB can compete with the top 5 on MBDTF for me (LITW, DIAND, Runaway, Gorgeous, and Hell Of A Life). I will say TPAB is more consistent quality wise, but You Ain’t Gotta Lie is worse than any song on MBDTF for me personally (and I don’t love So Appalled). Just it’s a matter of a harder hitting subject matter (I can’t directly relate to a lot of the things on racial injustice on TPAB and MBDTF touches on a bit more that I can at least relate too), much better production (although TPAB is immaculately produced), and just the fact that TPAB is so much harder to listen to. Both are incredible, but MBDTF lines up with what I like in music the most. That’s why it’s my all time favorite album!
Much love🙏
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Both great albums, but I'ma go with NWTS easily
I got 2014 FHD as well yall both did great at yall arguments I can say “Love Yourz” help me get out of some depression and I see a lot of people online with the same sentiment Cole for the win!
I got so excited when I saw yall were doing this! These albums are classics so don't hurt each other too bad lol
Who won👀
@@NFRPodcast I think Ant took that one! He was makin very strong points in the Artistry & Impact segment.
I think this competition reveals a lot about what a listener values. NWTS is masterfully produce hip/rnb hybrid with melodic anthems and lots of replay-ability. 2014FHD is a masterful example of storytelling and conveying a message. I personally prefer 2014FHD.
When you talk about things you are passionate about it especially in a debate then things get heated. Lu only gets slightly louder after Ant calmly says something that he knows is going to get a reaction out of Lu in my opinion.I love how they both have different deliveries. Good job guys. Very entertaining!
This has got to be the best videos you guys have ever made. So entertaining you guys definitely need to make a sequel to this episode arguing for another set of albums!
Both of these albums are my favorite from each artists discography but I'm taken NWTS. It's so nostalgic for me being a kid listening to nwts was a moment I will never forget💯
Fax
Double platinum no features, #1 on the charts with no singles prior to release. Cole laid the groundwork for a viable yet completely different album rollout with this one that he had always said could work but nobody ever believed. I don't think people would rollout as out of the blue and nonchalant if it weren't for this album.
Triple platinum*
If you’re going to judge purely by numbers, then you have to also say drake is the best rapper ever lmao
Drake literally embarrasses Cole numbers wise lmao. Find a better argument please
I like Cole a lot more than Drake but NWTS sweeps Cole’s entire discography. I usually only like Drake’s single but NWTS and Take Care are both amazing albums and amongst the best of the 2010s
I would heavily, born sinner - kod are easily better than any drake project it terms of production and concept and artistry
@@caseykash9867 lmaooooo man this is cringe . Born sinner isn’t better than even so far gone . Kod isn’t even better than thank me later . You just prefer them I’m someone who grew up being huge fans of both but lol a lot of ppl after fhd (newer fans )started becoming very self righteous and annoying .
@@Hakeemthabeen888 for the record cole doesn’t even crack my t5 drake does so that should give you some context and I could say the same about new drake fans
@@caseykash9867 no u can’t lol drakes fans have been the same way since the start lol I’m some one tht was a Cole fan since 2010 (who dat who dat days) u can argue Friday nights lights is Cole at his peak especially when it comes to rapping . Born sinner and truly yours 2 dropped 2013 , a lot of ppl liked and respected wale more than Cole … then fhd comes up ppl started treating Cole like a god . Great album but the fans post tht time period says the corniest things . Kod bro ? Better than take care and nwts 🤣😂. It might not be better than more life . Born sinner was really good but it’s not beating out anything drake put out from 09 to 2016
@@Hakeemthabeen888 it is
Almost 42 thousand followers..you’re almost halfway to 100k..so proud of you guys
“I’ll play no role models at my wedding fuck it.”
😂😂😂🙏🏻👌🏼
I go back to NWTS more than 2014 FHD. NWTS wins in my opinion.
because it has catchier tracks. the actual art is not comparable. fhd is like benihanas and nwts is like panda express lol.
@@mikem4481 drake has 5 projects with more critical acclaim than j cole's best project lol cole is the panda express
@@aka_15critical acclaim dont mean shit… drake is ass bro overrated af
I will go with FHD in this one, 03 Adolescence just hits me different
These episodes are so good bro, more of these please.
Nwts is one of the greatest albums I've ever heard in my life.
You have listened to a few albums
@@muleyamwiinga3988 however u feel bout Drake take care nd nwts r some of the greatest albums ever made.
@@medhii5873 Facts
What makes it amazing for you?
@@NFRPodcast every song is sentimental meaning for me rapping singing on the same tier everything he said on that album was real not one skip me you can play front to back this was WOKE drake .
2014 FHD is a true CLASSIC. It's like a movie of Cole reminiscing about growing up in his childhood home that his sitting on in the cover.
Agreed
nothing was the same is so much better
Dope content once again!!
Suggestion for next one, albums that i’ve never heard discussed in comparison:
2Pac (All Eyez On me) - Biggie Smalls (Ready to die).
Damn y’all putting 2 of my fav albums against each other I can’t even choose 😩🔥🐐🐐
Yall really gotta keep doing more of these! They’re great!
2014 FHD got slightly the better concept but NWTS sweeps for everything else
Nah I would say production and lyricism goes to fhd
@@caseykash9867 lol Cole is overrated as hell lyrically(still really good)but because he only raps and his subject matter is considered conscious and drakes isn’t so Cole Is deem better lyrically lmaoo Tuscan leather and POUNDCAKE /Paris Morton 2 kills anything on fhd. Now … connect is a better song in terms of lyrics and production than any track on fhd even doe it’s not really a rap song .
@@Hakeemthabeen888 thats wrong
@@Hakeemthabeen888 completely disagree nothing was the same had like 3 solid tracks worthy of rotation forest hill drive had like 5-6.. and the whole concept of of 2014 FHD. is a lot more consistent than NWTS
@@itsfcbrandon 3 solid tracks ? Okay lmaaaoo weirdo 🤣🤦🏾♂️ both albums have more than 3 solid tracks . Anyone saying otherwise is a moron. Nwts concept is also better lol it actually has a consistent concept and story
2014 FHD is CLEAR
I think 2014 Forest Hills Drive blows Nothing Was The Same out of the water. 2014 Forest Hills Drive has a way better concept and lyrical content as well as explaining that concept as if it’s a movie. I feel when I listen to 2014 Forest Hills Drive it’s like a soundtrack to his life. I have to disagree with Luca on a few things 1 being J Coles melodic performances on the album, I absolutely love his singing on apparently and I actually prefer that song over almost all songs on Nothing Was The Same. Also have to disagree with the Wet Dreamz take, that song is incredible and definitely fits the tracklist. Also I actually really enjoy Note To Self. I feel production is a huge thing for 2014 FHD I totally agree with everything with Anthony said with how it fits the vibe and the tracklist and all that. I definitely feel the production is a massive add for this album! Also Tale Of 2 Cityz i do think is the best produced song out of both records, or GOMD. I also think in this case the production being by J Cole does add to the tracklist. And im sorry Luca but 2014 FHD is absolutely 100% not boring production wise. Honestly it’s some of my favourite production ever. When it comes to impact yes Nothing Was The Same was huge for that kinda R&B/ Rap but FHD is what artists still to this day look at when wanting to make a strictly Rap album. Also if you look at sales J Cole still sold 361k first week and he did no promotion what’s so ever he announced it 2 weeks before and that was it. The only “promotion” he did was not even him doing it his song Fire Squad was leaked. If you wanna talk impact song wise I can name so many songs on FHD that have had an impact not just on me but on thousands very well millions of people. Songs like Love Yourz for example. Literally every song on 2014 FHD is better conceptually. 2014 I think blows NWTS out of the water when it comes to touching people. Luca talked about Not liking Note To Self. The message in this song is very impactful and all he did was sang for a bit. Overall I think 2014 is a better project and I think it sweeps NWTS. NWTS is a great project but I don’t think it touches 2014 FHD. The only way it beats it is numbers. I think Anthony win this one sorry Luca, man I love this series. Also my opinion might be slightly bias because 2014 FHD is in my top 2 favourite albums of all time interchangeable with FYEO. Overall I just think NWTS can’t touch 2014 FHD. Sorry I wrote like a whole essay 😂😂😂. Great Video Guys!!!
NWTS still better but like your opinion
@@RoomToEdify respect ✊
I agree with you but good grief that was long lol
@@ghostlyripper4403 lol very passionate when it comes to music especially my favourite artist of all time and my top 1/2 album of all time!
@@connordavis3018 tbh i don’t feel like reading all that but I’m just gonna say i LOVE love LOVE both of these albums. I’ll say on a personal level forest hills drive resonates with me a little more but both of these albums are classics and it definitely doesn’t blow nothing was the same out of the water.
I love both álbums nothing was the same is my favorite drake album but I’m going with 2014 hills drive because to me it’s relatable in the sense that a lot that j cole is talking about I went through and it really hits home to me
Writing-2014 forest Hills, production- nothing was the same
period
I remember when I went to Miami for spring break in 2014 they were selling „I’m on my worst behavior“ T-Shirts in the tourist shops. So much for the impact of nothing was the same.
This was fire!!! I for sure think 2014 is the better album!
This is my favorite segment on this channel
These albums were pretty much even for me for the longest time but NWTS takes it for me. I think Drake really made more timeless songs on there. 2014 FHD is dope but it feels more like it's from the time it came out in. I think NWTS aged much better. It really showed Drake's versatility and even maturity from his previous work as well his most concise work to date.
I thought Lu won this one for sure. However Anthony makes talks up these albums so well I have to go back and listen to them again because I feel like I missed something. Great job guys.
OMFG this is gonna be insane
Hope you enjoyed🙏
@@NFRPodcast always enjoy the new NFR vids keep up the good shit y’all are killin it
First time seeing these two get heated like that. Fire content, love the passion
I love how heated these boys get making points
I love this channel. Two GOATS on the come up
I anticipate blood here 😂😂😂.
Two of my favourites project but NWTS it's just different man...one of the best albums of all time
That’s definitely a stretch. It doesn’t come near tpab or dark fantasy, wouldn’t even take it over something like the Eminem show.
One of the best albums of all time? You're really gonna put it in the same leagues as illmatic, the chronic, ATLiens, Led Zeppelin IV, sgt peppers, Dark side of the moon?
There'll be blood fr. They took it personally last time.🤣
@@josephc5116 nwts > tpab and Eminem show
@@gavatundejr4986 yeah why not?
2014 FHD is a masterpiece
Lmao
@@Jon155mt Ok to be fair I was 15 when I commented this and I thought Cole was the greatest rapper ever 😭 but it’s still a classic and top 10 hip hop album of the 2010s
Anthony literally doing this with an OVO hoodie on 🦉
Love the show
Liquid swordz vs OB4CL
Midnight Marauders vs Enter the 36 chambers
But anyway, since the first two ep are recent projects i would like to see two from the 90s
these are always so fucking hilarious their reactions to each others opinions got me dying😂
That's a great matchup
Hope you enjoyed!
NWTS Takes The Crown For me
2014 FOREST HILL DRIVES is a classic 👑
It’s mind of a tie for me. NWTS has the higher highs (Pound Cake, Tuscan Leather, From Time), but also the lower lows
Kind*
“And you might feel like nothing was the same”
I still been drinking on the low
Gotta go with nwts. Every song just puts me in a certain place in my young 20 year life. That time period for me was memorable and this was the album that really got me into music. Needless to say personally I don’t think I even find out about J Cole or rap music outside radio hits if it wasn’t for nwts. However both albums are always on constant play for me throughout the year and are great bodies of work all around.
NWTS aged well with time & thats the definition of a classic how drake manifested hw he was gonna be at the top & it happened drake album flew over peoples’ heads Forest hills drive was a gd one 1st listen but we all know what pound cake means to the hiphop community ☝️
No role modelz, wet dreamz, love yourz, 03 adolescence, and take of two citiez ALONE as 5 tracks are better than 80% of drakes catalog and that’s not biased at all. I prefer to listen to drake more OFTEN but 2014FHD adds something to coles discography that drake doesn’t have and is still chasing to this day: a CLASSIC album.
@@angelusgnz5784 STOPPPPPPP LMAOOOOOOO no just no Drakes best 2 album destroy anything jay Cole .
2014 Forest Hills drive has also aged like fine wine. No song sounds outdated. Both are amazing, timeless pieces of work.
Forest Hills Drive..... Is so dope its in top 10 hip hop album's of all time no cap
Luka has good points but IMO he gets too heated at Anthony’s opinions and interrupts to much while Anthony stays calm and just delivers good points
Happens when u get too passionate lol
I disagree
We definitely get fired up in the heat of the moment, all love and respect though!
@@NFRPodcast respect to you guys for responding, love the show
Tuscan Leather is one of the most well produced instrumentals of all time. That song alone takes it.
Nothing Was The Same.
2014 way better
In my Opinion
Artisty-FHD
Production-NWTS
Impact-FHD
Gotta go with 2014 fhd
Was waiting for this and it was 1000% worth the wait🔥🔥🔥
Ayee🔥 much love Ultron
Damn this is my favorite albums from Drake n J cole but gotta give it to NWTS overall but I think Forest Hill drive has more impact , especially with a track like Love Yourz always gets me out of a bad place
It’s funny how ant is wearing an OVO sweater while representing j. Cole
2014 fhd>>> not even close
Not even close?
@@NFRPodcast idk man, drake just isn’t that good. he been overrated
@@NFRPodcast to be fair, 2014 fhd is my favorite hip hop album lmaoo
@@KillzSniper Drake at his best is just as good of a rapper as Cole and arguably a better all around artist. How do you not understand his appeal
best series on this channel
Glad you're enjoying it Greg🙏
2014 fhd for the winnnnnnnnn
22:23 Talk to em Lu 🗣️
These are the two closest albums to compare to be honest, it’s really close but FHD got it for me
Wet Dreamz is one of best songs on album!!!! It connects with guys man, it belongs 100%!!!!!!!!!!
Tuscan leather alone is legendary, the transitions in nwts is crazy as hell and flows. The samples were legendary. You have iconic songs like pound cake, from time, hold on we're going home, worst behaviour and not to mention started from the bottom which boomed everywhere! NWTS is a whole playlist on its own; something FHD isn't. As much I love Cole as well, none of his albums are better than NWTS and Take Care. The fact that Drake is able to blend his rnb and rap in such a top notch way is so underrated.
Great content fellas keep that shit up
Can we get Astroworld vs Scorpion
NWTS is one of the best albums ever… FHD gonna get sweeped
no
Fact. But both albums are absolutely amazing
NWTS is no where near one of the best albums ever, not even drakes best….FHD isn’t either
But I prefer FHD
@@bakhtiyarguseinov9402 yes they are
@@bakhtiyarguseinov9402 nwts is easily a top 100 album of all time and it’s drakes best …. Damn near a perfect album . Drake at his apex of youth but maturing an a man. Tuscan leather is a 10/10 intro… further thing is a 10/10 follow up track . Atleast 10 of out of the 13 songs are flawless .
So much range and emotional depth in this album , beautiful song writing and structure.. sequencing . You got anthem drake , you got braggadocio drake ,victory lap drake, bedroom drake , and introspective ballad drake … there’s not too many albums especially hip hop albums with this range
. Answer this question wat song on fhd is better than connect ? Or from time ? And those aren’t even considered the two best songs on nwts shit wu tang forever is better than every song on fhd
For Me Personally "Nothing Was the Same" singles just Smashes Through All Forest Hill Driving songs Except for "Wet Dremz, No Role Modules, A Tale Of two Citiez.
have big love for both albums but NWTS easily takes this for me
EASILY
Y’all are great, keep ur up!
Anyone else felt the tension while watching this ? Lmao
Imo you can’t go wrong. 2 of my fav albums of all time and also both of these artists’ top albums for me. I’d probably take NWTS tho
My favourite J Cole album is The Off Season
16:19 he was gonna slap ant so hard fr 😭
Yeah I know I am late to the convo.. but…. As amazing as an album NWTS is, 2014 takes the cake on Impact and Artistry for sure. Tie on Production if you ask me.
Regardless how anyone feels about the album Lu won this debate 😂